Post by: Mad Max on September 29, 2020, 06:23:03 PM
I may or may not have it ready May 2021 for the classic.
68" or 70" NTN
about 73" long
(https://i.imgur.com/i8kRscx.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/9uJORrl.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/yWotBlA.jpg?1)
I got the width down to size
(https://i.imgur.com/XouSJga.jpg)
I have some propeller to take out on the limb close to the camara
(https://i.imgur.com/S4SlBZY.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on September 29, 2020, 06:34:38 PM
I'd leave the twist alone until first brace. You may not need to do anything. Snaky staves are iffy enough. No need to add another chance of unnecessary strain unless it is needed.
Post by: Mad Max on September 29, 2020, 06:55:55 PM
I was thinking the same, but it's about 6" off the fade and a straight area, so maybe.
My luck has not been very good on snakey staves so some of those dog legs will get backed with linen and wrapped with serving.
Post by: Pat B on September 29, 2020, 07:48:00 PM
Post by: bjansen on September 29, 2020, 10:07:31 PM
Post by: Flem on September 29, 2020, 10:46:56 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 30, 2020, 05:16:51 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 30, 2020, 08:56:59 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 30, 2020, 09:02:02 AM
Post by: Pat B on September 30, 2020, 09:58:34 AM
Just because a bow is snaky doesn't mean it won't shoot well and smoothly. Here is an example of one that Clint collaborated with someone else at the Classic a few years ago that shot quite well and smoothly.
(https://i.imgur.com/T2RsUG4.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on September 30, 2020, 10:08:30 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/83gd20B.jpg)
...and this is a stave that was given to me at the Classic a few years ago that I contemplated for a few years before giving it to Will Harris to build a bow because I chickened out. Will made at least one of those 3 bows above. This snakey stave below that I gave to Will was a corner fence post for over 60 years before it was given to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/X7xUSH4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dcVtWs0.jpg)
Post by: Mad Max on September 30, 2020, 10:32:39 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/9uJORrl.jpg?1)
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 30, 2020, 11:32:20 AM
Post by: Buemaker on October 02, 2020, 08:55:11 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 02, 2020, 08:59:31 AM
Fingers crossed :tongue:
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 03, 2020, 09:39:34 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 15, 2020, 05:08:31 PM
I been doing some floor tillering and have both limbs bending some.
(https://i.imgur.com/566fSlz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xhFcU3f.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on October 15, 2020, 05:26:04 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 15, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 15, 2020, 08:44:21 PM
Looking good. That's a good idea with the string wrap in those critical places. I never thought of doing that. :thumbsup:
At some point I have to take the wrap off and bend it :scared:
Post by: Pat B on October 15, 2020, 10:40:45 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 07:33:58 AM
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on October 16, 2020, 09:31:48 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 09:58:34 AM
Post by: Pat B on October 16, 2020, 10:18:32 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 16, 2020, 10:41:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 11:48:52 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 16, 2020, 12:04:59 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 12:37:16 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 12:39:08 PM
Post by: Black Mockingbird on October 16, 2020, 02:04:54 PM
You would think someone with the last name of painter could draw better than that...
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2020, 02:32:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 16, 2020, 02:49:19 PM
Post by: John Scifres on October 26, 2020, 03:54:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
I heat corrected some propeller out of one limb last week.
The dog leg area (the hump on the right) has been wanting to bend from the start, so I clamped a 3/16"x 4" long scrap piece to the belly while doing the floor tiller, and it still is wanting to bend, so I glued 3 veneers .020 each (.060) and now it's NOT bending.
I braced it to 3" the other day while scraping and now to 5"
And the serving wrap is off
I'm getting somewhere now :bigsmyl:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGZXoc2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EElc36p.jpg)
Post by: wood carver 2 on October 26, 2020, 04:13:57 PM
Dave.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 04:19:04 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2020, 04:44:32 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2020, 06:34:43 PM
This is where the serving wraps were.
With the linen on the back and the veneers on the belly it should be good.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZAOMzaE.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 26, 2020, 06:46:27 PM
I guess it's ok.
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2020, 06:48:59 PM
Post by: Pat B on October 26, 2020, 07:13:02 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2020, 04:56:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGZXoc2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DqRmFkW.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 27, 2020, 05:08:29 PM
Those two humps outside of the fades gotta be giving you fits.
Not a lot you can do with them though.
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Post by: ztontonz on October 27, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2020, 05:36:06 PM
mid limb out to the tips needs to bend more.
It's try to bend at the fades a little at 19"
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2020, 08:01:07 PM
Love the bow string too. Smart trick
I wanted to brace it very slowly hoping nothing bad happened :pray:
Post by: Stagmitis on October 29, 2020, 10:19:15 AM
Post by: Mad Max on October 29, 2020, 04:08:30 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 29, 2020, 07:05:56 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 29, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
How long this gonna take?
This winter :laughing: :tongue:
This is number 4, all the others broke before I had a chance to get them tillered, So 7 years, almost there :thumbsup:
I'm taking my time, I still have to order Western Diamond backs to glue on. “Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.” :jumper:
Post by: Mad Max on October 29, 2020, 07:36:12 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 30, 2020, 07:09:39 AM
Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2020, 10:02:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 30, 2020, 02:43:28 PM
:wavey: :laughing:
Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2020, 03:22:00 PM
Post by: Mad Max on October 30, 2020, 04:44:50 PM
Post by: Flem on October 30, 2020, 05:10:06 PM
I did get it bending much better today ;)
That is a problem when your an old fart :biglaugh:
Pretty sure I qualify for that label now :o
Post by: Pat B on October 30, 2020, 06:25:40 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 31, 2020, 05:11:57 AM
Ya all notice how crooked Maxi boys stave is and he needs a turnbuckle to get it strung up?
Post by: Pat B on October 31, 2020, 08:36:01 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 31, 2020, 08:42:57 AM
:laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on October 31, 2020, 08:52:20 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 31, 2020, 08:53:35 AM
Post by: Buemaker on October 31, 2020, 09:47:35 AM
Post by: flyonline on November 01, 2020, 02:55:54 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 05:11:14 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 09:31:10 AM
At least it doesn't have any string follow YET :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 12:56:26 PM
Been a month and ya hain't flinging arrows?
WTH....
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 01:01:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YEbtZeg.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 02:53:57 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 01, 2020, 03:34:43 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 03:51:40 PM
Can you get a little bend above and below the handle, just off the fades. It looks quite stiff there.
It’s bending all the way to the fades
Need to work on the left side
Bigger ellipse roy
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 04:49:43 PM
Looks high on the right side.
Your picture is small vertical wise.
Attach it with the option at the bottom instead of how you are doing it.
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 06:42:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZGZXoc2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sunwmbt.jpg)
Is this enough to down here?
Pain in the butt to tiller, It's been looking good up to now.
The middle of the bow does not matter, The tip timing is what we are doing
Thanks Roy
Post by: Pat B on November 01, 2020, 06:59:13 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 07:17:53 PM
I'm sliding the handle left or right while I pull the rope.
So not yet.
I got a new picture roy :banghead:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 07:47:04 PM
The tips/limbs are going to change while tillering.
I tiller for equal limb timing by keeping my tree pull rope tracking the vertical line on the wall which is aligned to where my middle finger will be on the bow string.
I could care less where the tips are or if the tiller is positive or negative.
My bows shoot great and are whisper quiet.
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 08:01:59 PM
I went threw this at the Tennessee classic with the guy's there.
this bow has no level, the first thing I did when I laid it on the tree was shim the riser to get the tips level and glued on a shim, I'm not tillering the riser I'm getting the limbs some what bending the same and watching the tips.
Remember, this is a stick :tongue:
Trust me, It's the only way.
The ellipse is helping me alot.
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 01, 2020, 08:36:22 PM
Do it your way.
I'll do the pictures for ya.
Post by: Mad Max on November 01, 2020, 08:58:49 PM
Post by: Bvas on November 01, 2020, 09:45:11 PM
Level the handle
Level the end of fades
Level the tips
Personally I level the tips, but at brace height. I figure with hand on string ready to draw, the bowstring is going to naturally be held perpendicular to the target no matter what the handle configuration is.
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 02, 2020, 07:09:53 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on November 02, 2020, 08:09:03 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/29h2Oze.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 02, 2020, 08:38:20 AM
:laughing: :wavey: :thumbsup:
Post by: Pat B on November 02, 2020, 09:43:57 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 02, 2020, 11:31:25 AM
I think he's skeered to fix it:)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 08:55:31 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 09:22:05 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vJlw5OD.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on November 03, 2020, 09:34:19 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 10:31:27 AM
Post by: Pat B on November 03, 2020, 11:18:21 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 11:39:19 AM
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2020, 01:06:12 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 05:28:10 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XUDc0fo.jpg)
I'm going to replicate Rattlers
(https://i.imgur.com/gF3UGDn.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 05:29:56 PM
Where did ya get the sheep horn?
I got some moose and caribou horn from a guy in Alaska.
Post by: Mad Max on November 03, 2020, 06:47:27 PM
Nice Mark..
Where did ya get the sheep horn?
I got some moose and caribou horn from a guy in Alaska.
ebay
I was wanting it for thick (1/4" +) tip overlays but it was to thin.
I found a use for it
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 03, 2020, 07:55:34 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 05, 2020, 01:38:14 PM
I've had these files for 20 years, so I picked out the one's I needed.
It took about 6 hours to shape them.
Turned out nice :bigsmyl:
(https://i.imgur.com/nGnFlw3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jkEXHPh.jpg)
Can't wait to get the skins on :jumper:
Ha Ha here is a kids bow for you Kenny
(https://i.imgur.com/05mZXMf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bsQjdEF.jpg)
Post by: ztontonz on November 05, 2020, 02:14:59 PM
Hoping you can finish tillering soon to get the skins on :bigsmyl:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 05, 2020, 03:09:43 PM
Bow looks different though:)
Post by: kennym on November 05, 2020, 03:37:32 PM
Next time you need to pick out a file, call me. I won't take six hours to pick one for ya... :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on November 05, 2020, 03:41:21 PM
Post by: kennym on November 05, 2020, 06:43:26 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 06, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
Looks awesome!
Hoping you can finish tillering soon to get the skins on :bigsmyl:
Yeah I finished up the tiller the other day and the skins are on the way. :thumbsup:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 06, 2020, 09:33:44 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 06, 2020, 04:53:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/mr9kzIK.jpg)
4" fades on each side.
I've been seeing some fades done this way so I thought I would give it a try, not so easy the first time but came out nice.
(https://i.imgur.com/egxIXBz.jpg)
Arrow rest is on the right and will be a ambidextrous rest
(https://i.imgur.com/GgFUkLz.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 06, 2020, 05:02:17 PM
Mark that is really sweet.
Post by: Mad Max on November 06, 2020, 09:38:53 PM
Post by: Pat B on November 06, 2020, 11:04:30 PM
Post by: ztontonz on November 07, 2020, 12:56:50 AM
Nicely shaped !
Post by: Stagmitis on November 07, 2020, 12:18:03 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 07, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
I have some coarse grind Turquoise, but it needs to be fine powder for a Arrow indicator.
So I used Grandpaws Hammer Dad gave me years ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/OBNtNbS.jpg)
I spot drilled with a 5/16" forstner bit on both sides
Filled the hole with it and super glue, filed and sanded smooth.
I think I'm going to leave the grip Naked, no leather or twine.
(https://i.imgur.com/qQ2tnVv.jpg)
Post by: Pat B on November 07, 2020, 10:06:59 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 07, 2020, 11:37:00 PM
I normally don't care for turquoise powder inlays but here I think it fits. I like your idea of a naked handle here. How will you address the handle with the skins, joined at the center or end at the top and bottom of the handle?
I was sanding a little wedge today and trying to fit it on the side and I decided it was taking away from the look of the handle, so I decided to not use the arrow rest or a leather grip.
So I don't know yet how to end the skins?
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 08, 2020, 05:50:43 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 11, 2020, 08:27:28 PM
It DID happen wif out pictures Roy :tongue:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 11, 2020, 08:30:56 PM
:wavey:
Post by: Flem on November 11, 2020, 11:49:11 PM
Are snake skins, even with finish on them, something you want to handle repeatedly?
I think the Turquoise looks sharp :thumbsup: Turquoise tip overlays would hide the other skin ends :goldtooth:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 12, 2020, 06:12:39 AM
He can end the skins a tad above the grip, they can be feathered out on the ends easily.
Post by: Mad Max on November 12, 2020, 08:24:21 AM
Yeah, how are you going to deal with the skin ends with no handle wrap?
Are snake skins, even with finish on them, something you want to handle repeatedly?
I think the Turquoise looks sharp :thumbsup: Turquoise tip overlays would hide the other skin ends :goldtooth:
I'm doing what roy said, cutting it to a point above and below the grip.
And on the tip I'm dead ending it to the Rattles just like a real snake. ;)
NO PINK ROY :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on November 12, 2020, 06:31:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7Sm2fyw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BKYBGPM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6C08qhj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FHJlp0r.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AqEz0TJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fwizsx8.jpg)
I still need to file the extra off the edges.
(https://i.imgur.com/8OwGRtj.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 12, 2020, 06:45:07 PM
Post by: Bvas on November 12, 2020, 09:35:23 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 12, 2020, 09:43:35 PM
All my other snakey bows broke before I got this far. :tongue:
Post by: Pat B on November 12, 2020, 10:29:49 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 12, 2020, 10:44:43 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 13, 2020, 04:01:44 AM
:pray:
Post by: kennym on November 13, 2020, 08:03:21 AM
Send it to Roy, he only draw bout 14" so should work well! :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 13, 2020, 08:13:42 AM
Post by: Black Mockingbird on November 13, 2020, 08:54:19 AM
Post by: Mad Max on November 13, 2020, 09:02:21 AM
It should be OK
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 13, 2020, 10:08:13 AM
With the looks of the grain on that bow I'll bet she will be fine.
Post by: Flem on November 13, 2020, 10:38:15 AM
Very elegant how you finished off the ends.
Post by: Mad Max on November 13, 2020, 11:00:20 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 13, 2020, 11:41:04 AM
I guess it's ok:)
Post by: Flem on November 13, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
Post by: Mad Max on November 13, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
Osage is a awesome bow wood for selfbows and if you are lucky enough that Mother Nature give us something like this, it should be shown to others. I like skins on a snakey stave and I will take it to the Tennessee Classic and MoJam for those who want to see.
I'm not showing off, there are many Bowyers alot better than me. I want it to be a work of Mother natures Art as best I can do with it.
I'm really enjoying working on it and letting you guy's see it happen.
Without Forums like this, very few would see.
I got the edges cleaned up and sand the bow all over Today.
Thanks for watching Guy's :jumper:
And for all the help ;)
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 13, 2020, 05:26:02 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 01, 2020, 10:51:02 AM
Ya still skeered?
Post by: Shredd on December 01, 2020, 04:09:56 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 01, 2020, 04:20:28 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 01, 2020, 05:21:47 PM
Wooden bows are more finicky than glass bows.
Post by: Mad Max on December 17, 2020, 01:24:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PHvB6B0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c4FSbrQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TWhPTjC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Sr6pVHn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mGha2W5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IjrHu8m.jpg)
71" NTN 35#@28"
(https://i.imgur.com/o35Q8we.jpg)
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 17, 2020, 03:25:22 PM
Mark you did one hell of an awesome job on that...
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Buemaker on December 17, 2020, 04:48:17 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 17, 2020, 05:06:18 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 17, 2020, 07:08:23 PM
I GUESS IT'S OK:)
LOL
Post by: KellyG on December 17, 2020, 09:51:39 PM
Post by: Flem on December 17, 2020, 11:06:54 PM
Post by: kennym on December 18, 2020, 07:25:43 AM
Post by: Mad Max on December 18, 2020, 08:10:04 AM
Post by: Longcruise on December 18, 2020, 10:35:06 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 18, 2020, 11:09:47 AM
You did outstanding....
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Post by: TIM B on December 18, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
Tim B
Post by: Mad Max on December 18, 2020, 05:17:26 PM
Thanks Roy :jumper:
Thanks guy's
Post by: Mad Max on December 18, 2020, 05:18:29 PM
Wow that’s impressive....I have a stave I’m saving for retirement....it will be my first.....that’s great and inspiring
Tim B
There fun and a pain at the same time :tongue:
Post by: Bvas on December 18, 2020, 07:38:21 PM
Very nice Mark :thumbsup:
Sooooo, I know you’ve had it to full draw, but have ya flung an arrows with it?
Is it functional art?
Post by: Mad Max on December 18, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
I thought it would have been more than 35#'s, It seems to be thick enough.
Post by: Roughcountry on December 18, 2020, 10:16:44 PM
Post by: Mad Max on December 19, 2020, 07:57:47 AM
Very Cool. I think the art word fits just fine. Thanks for takin us along.
:thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on December 23, 2020, 11:42:44 PM
You can see the fades bending when braced :tongue:
(https://i.imgur.com/zvThUpK.mp4)
https://i.imgur.com/zvThUpK.mp4