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Title: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on September 28, 2020, 12:09:22 PM
I have a black locust stave with several inches of natural reflex approximately 3.5 inches.  My question is should I go with that or after working the stave down to the rough shape try to take it out?
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Mad Max on September 28, 2020, 01:23:39 PM
Go with it
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 28, 2020, 04:07:20 PM
Bill that's all messed up, just send it to me:)
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Mad Max on September 28, 2020, 05:49:55 PM
Roy don't need it , he has a Osage one he needs to work on don't you roy boy?

you will lose some during the tiller, go with it :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Pat B on September 28, 2020, 07:31:52 PM
Work with it as it is. By the time it's tillered and shot in the bow will probably flat or 1" of reflex.
What ya gonna make?
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 29, 2020, 09:26:18 AM
Be forewarned, the natural reflex will fool you on poundage at first and tempt you to take off too much wood. I would shoot it in before you make the final poundage adjustment because a bunch of that reflex will pull out.
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Pat B on September 29, 2020, 09:32:52 AM
I agree with Eric.
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on September 29, 2020, 07:15:41 PM
Thanks to all who responded.  Very good advice and I will certainly be mindful as I continue to work with this stave.  I'll keep you guys updated as I go along.  Again, thanks.
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on November 05, 2020, 06:38:31 AM
I just want to give an update on this post I started some time ago.  I have nearly completed the bow from this black locust stave and it has turned out well, at least for now.  I've only put about 50 arrows through it so time will tell if turns out to be a keeper or not.  Like someone said, all the natural reflex was lost in the tillering process.  It ended up 62" NTN and weighs in at 45# at 28".  I'll try to get a picture or two up in the coming days.

Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Mad Max on November 05, 2020, 08:07:30 AM
 :thumbsup: :archer2:
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 05, 2020, 08:42:28 AM
Great. 45# is a good weight for a young man of 70:)
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on November 05, 2020, 06:28:22 PM
Certainly is Roy.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on November 07, 2020, 03:24:02 PM
Here’s a few photos of that black locust stave that had lots of natural reflex.  The top limb has two knots at about mid limb which keeps it from bending somewhat.  Shoots real good.  Don’t think I’ll tinker anymore with the tiller.
Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 08, 2020, 09:08:08 AM
The tiller of your bow........ not good, hinged with straight limbs from the hinges out.

Do you have a tillering gizmo? This neat little tool will show you the error in your ways and prevent hinges in the future.

Go to the Primitive Archer site and look in the how to section, I have a complete how to make and use one tutorial posted there.

I did have the same tutorial here but got banned for telling the truth, (quickly reinstated when the facts came out). Who ever banned me (thanks Rob) deleted a multitude of bow making tutorials I had posted here, including the gizmo one.

This is a tillering gizmo, one of the fancy ones I put on the St Jude Auction.

Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 08, 2020, 10:45:38 AM
Agree with Eric.

The tiller should look more like the yellow overlay line.

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Title: Re: Natural reflex
Post by: LaBill67 on November 08, 2020, 04:33:25 PM
I saw it.  Thanks guys