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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: bowmaster12 on September 13, 2020, 03:25:27 PM
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Ive made the switch to expensive carbons. There is nothing wrong with them but it just doesn't feel right. This equipment is ment to be shot with wood imo. My issue for making the switch was consistancy, tuning, and trying to get 650 grains total weight with 20% foc. It wouldnt be for this year but does anyone have a good starting point for solid wooden arrows and tips for keeping them straight? 55# at 28" draw is 28 when i hit full anchor
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Forrester Hardwood shafts, his shafts are consistent and arrive straight. Depending on wood selection you can achieve that weight easily. Staying straight depends on how they are finished, how they are stored and climate changes where you live and hunt. I live in a very dry climate and cedar has the least loss of moisture of the common wood shaft materials. Once finished I usually don’t have to keep straightening them after use. If I do I keep track of that arrow. After the second time of re-straightening I use them as “shoot away” arrows.
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Surewood Douglas Fir from Snag have been really good for me. I havnt had any trouble Keeping them straight. I think they weigh enough and fly really well, so I don’t worry about FOC much.
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I would say Sherwood fir shafts that come straight and stay that way. Easy to get the weight you want. I’ve made up cedar that came in at about 675-700 grains with 19% foc.
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I made up some aluminum 2117 and thought I’d use them and still might, but I really like 65/70 , 29” with 160 grain heads out of my 50# recurve. Maybe a little on the heavy side.
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It's hard to get 20% FOC with wood arrows, but I got very close (19 plus) with 11/32 POC shafts cut 29 inches bop, plus point taper, for my 28-inch draw, footed with a hardwood (wenge or padauk) and 9-inch tapered to 5/16 on the back end with a 160 grain STOS broadheads. Came in about 650 grains as I remember. I shot about the same bow weight, 55#, but overspined to 65-70# shafts. A 200 grain point would put it closer to 21% FOC.
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Another vote for ForresterWoodshafts with rat tail tapered (continuous taper) point to nock 11/32 to 5/16”. Red Balau is a great heavy shaft. My 85/90# 29 1/2” are 660 grains raw shaft. Yours would be significantly lighter.
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Heya Bowmaster12. I have been in the same predicament as you. I started bowhunting with selbows and wood arrows. After a few years I switched to a laminate bow and carbon arrows to take any doubt out of my equipment so I could focus on my form and accuracy and know mistakes were entirely my own. A few years later and I had consistency and accuracy. Now I'm back to selfbows and wood arrows. Killed a young buck with wooden arrow this fall, and hoping to get a few more shots before the year is over.
I shoot Surewood Shafts douglas fir from Carson Brown. Excellent arrow shafts. They come as straight as any wood arrow I've seen. Once sealed (4 coats of spar varnish) they stay straight unless I bend them pulling out of stump. Arrow flight (as long as I do my part with form/release) is just as good as any carbon.
When shooting carbons I fell down the rabbit hole of FOc and all that crap. I don't care/worry about it anymore. I'm only concerned with good arrow flight, accurate shots, shaving sharp broadheads, and heavy arrows. With douglas fir and 190-200 grain broadheads I can be shooting a 600+ grain arrow which is about 11-12 grains per pound for the bows I build and shoot, which is around 55# @ 29"
I hated the thought of leaving all that carbon in the woods when I missed and lost arrows. Now all I'm leaving is wood. I'm really happy to be back to wooden arrows. they perform better than I can shoot most days. Enjoy the journey with wood man.
Preston
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All wood, aluminum and carbon group in a clump at 20-25 yards when spined appropriately. Aluminum and carbon may shoot a bit flatter for a few more yards? Always remember who brought you to the dance.
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Woody weights now offered 75 -200 grains in 25 grain increments. Great tool for tuning and increasing FOC. I have some woodies at 22% FOC.
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I'm with Wudstix - properly spined and of similar weight, they all shoot pretty much the same. I shot with woodies last night and did as well or better than with the carbons.
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Woody weights now offered 75 -200 grains in 25 grain increments. Great tool for tuning and increasing FOC. I have some woodies at 22% FOC.
Second on the Woody Weights. You can make your arrows as heavy and FOC as you want.