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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: hunting badger on August 13, 2020, 03:07:38 PM
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Let's see some examples of how you guys letter your bows and what you use for lettering
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X2 one what he said :thumbsup:
My pin tips that you dip in ink don't work worth a cra$ :dunno:
Need the name brand of what you use?
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So I've tried just about everything and they all look like crap plus my handwriting is awful. I even purchased a professional drawing pen called an rapidograph which turned out to be a nightmare to use and I spent about 75 bucks on it, the ink and the cleaner for it. I tried the calligraphy style pen but just can't get used to them. Finally I've settled on a pen a found on Amazon called a neopiko paint pen. It works the best for me and doesn't run when I hit it with finish. It's still not great but better than the others.
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This is with the neopiko pen.
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Calligraphy pen (extra fine nib) and archival white acrylic ink, I put a couple coats of true oil over the lettering to lock it in place. If you goof up you can wipe the lettering off with a wet paper towel and start over.
The other picture is the same ink on osage several years down the road.
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I wish I could write like that. That looks great Eric.
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I have 3 pins with all the nibs.
I try to use the FINE nibs, but they dump alot of ink or not enough, whats up with that???
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I have 3 pins with all the nibs.
I try to use the FINE nibs, but they dump alot of ink or not enough, whats up with that???
Same here. Or I write about two letters and it stops writing and then when I get more ink it's a pain to get it started again.
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(https://i.imgur.com/nPtZonJ.jpg)
I used an archival ink pen, can't recall the brand. I can go look in my shop the next time I am out there if it matters. The finish is Helmsman spar varnish. I put 2 coats on, then marked it and put the third coat over the markings. It took a bit of coaxing to get it to write on the hard surface but got there in the end.
Mark
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What I do is dip the pen in water first and draw a water line on a piece of cardboard to get things flowing. Next I put a drop of ink on the bottom side of the nib and go back to the card board and make a bold line. I draw a couple of straight lines on the card board pulling the pen toward me until the line thins out to what I want. I go to my bow, press the nib point to the bow to make a dot to get thing flowing and work off that dot to make the first word.
I can usually do the entire inscription with one load of ink, if the pen starts skipping I wipe that line off and start my pen loading process over starting with the drop of ink on the bottom of the nib and making lines on cardboard. I prefer the cardboard back of a legal pad for my test lines.
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I've been using these pens. I don't have the skills to use nibs, bad handwriting :tongue:
I really like the Uni- ball pen on the bottom, it's as close as I can get to the India ink look. I prime it, sort of like what Eric does. Ink choice might also depend on the finish used. Certain inks/pigments don't stand up to catalyzed finishes. Archival ink is good under any finish and stands up to UV.
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Flem does that white pen at the bottom hold up against Krystal finish?
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I can usually do the entire inscription with one load of ink, if the pen starts skipping I wipe that line off and start my pen loading process over starting with the drop of ink on the bottom of the nib and making lines on cardboard. I prefer the cardboard back of a legal pad for my test lines.
Im using Indian Ink, you can't wipe it off while you are doing it :dunno:
most of it come off but no all, I have to sand it and start over
Are you using water based ink??
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I use the same pens Flem uses... Micron 01 and 08... Depending where I am writing... I hit it lightly with the heat gun to make sure it is good and dry before I apply the finish...
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I use India Ink. It is permanent and doesn't bleed when the finish is applied. They come in different size tips and colors. If they make a white ink I don't have it but I like the gold and silver inks. I I apply at least one coat of finish before I do the writing. I get them in the calligraphy section at the local craft store. My lettering skills aren't that great either. It has been a while since I posted pictures. Hope it works
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I wish I knew what Bear used back in the day to get those super fine gold lines.
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My ink is water based acrylic.
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:thumbsup:
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I started using One shot lettering paint. I’ve tried all kinds of other stuff and really like this one shot paint the best
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I use a pen called Uni Posca . It comes in gold white and black that I know of. Just basically use it same way as one would a pen or pencil. Finish doesn't bother it at all.
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Where you get them bigbob
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Stic, I did a google search for the Uni-posca pens and they are readily available through Amazon, DickBlick and others.
Here's one example.
https://www.amazon.com/Uni-posca-Paint-Marker-Pen-PC-1M12C/dp/B001VB4T86
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time difference means a delay in answering, sorry. I get mine from office works or similar. Newsagents too might stock them. Very easy to use. I just lay down one coat of finish and then apply lettering followed by remaining coats.
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I use Tru-Oil on my bows and find some inks, specifically Sharpies, don't work well over it so after a coat or 2 of Tru-Oil I spray the area to be written on with satin poly, write the info and add more coats of Tru-Oil over that.
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Hey Robert, sorry I did not see your question sooner. The Uni-Ball does work with conversion varnish and 2K auto clears, as do the Microns. The Uni-Ball also comes in gold, silver and some other cool colors.
The thing to do is get yourself a few different brands and tip sizes, then experiment to see which suits you best. But if you have the skills like Eric, nothing looks as good as India ink and a nib.
The One Shot letter paint that Brad uses is indeed good stuff, but be careful if you use it. It use to contain lead, don't know if it still does. I know it contains heavy metal driers and a variety of nasty solvents. Stuff lasts a long time, even exposed to the elements!
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Thanks Flem, I ordered a pack of the uni-ball pens :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the suggestions and the replies! Mine never seems to look good, I wish I had good hand writing like Eric!!
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A surprising number of my lettering jobs are do overs, sometimes 3 or 4 do overs. I did practice to get the flow and spacing early on. After lettering a couple hundred bows one gets the hang of it, even then I have good days and bad days. The pictures are the ones I did on a good day.
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I have bad days only
I think I’m trying to hard
My normal writing is ok, I think I just need to write