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Title: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Buemaker on April 15, 2020, 11:31:22 AM
How do you treat Stabil-Kore before glueing it in a bow limb?
I had a set of limbs with this and for a couple of reasons I did not trust them. Could be I was too cautious, but I plyed the lams apart and stripped them apart.It would most likely have been okay, but I thought the SK did not stick to the wood lams as good as it should.
Before glueing I degreased the SK with acetone and sanded it and made sure all dust was gone.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Mad Max on April 15, 2020, 11:47:38 AM
I just used a Hard brush and glued it in the stack next to the belly glass, Awesome stuff.
Don't over think it Bue
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 15, 2020, 04:50:12 PM
Clean it with acetone. being its woven give it plenty of time to dry. Also because its woven dont spare the glue. I butter mine and let it set if it looks like it soaked in I put more glue on it.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: jess stuart on April 15, 2020, 07:50:03 PM
Lightly sand wipe with acetone.  I put it as close to thg he belly as I can.  Not sure if that makes a difference or not.  No problems with it at all.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: monterey on April 15, 2020, 07:53:21 PM
I clean with acetone and butter it up heavily and lay it up.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: BigJim on April 15, 2020, 11:51:04 PM
clean with acetone and glue.. Never have an issue.

You would be surprised how easy it is to peal a bow apart!
BigJIm
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 16, 2020, 07:55:53 AM
The peel apart part is scary. The first time I had one I am thinking WTH.
Anyhow the reason I said dont spare the glue is I put it under clear trying to get a cool look. and there was a few tiny spots that needed more glue. Being most put it under veneer or core you would not notice. BTW it wasnt that cool lookiing
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: beachbowhunter on April 16, 2020, 08:49:46 AM
Just used some for the first time. It really soaks up the glue well. Turns a nice dark color so you can visually see where you got it on. A quick wipe with denatured alcohol is what I did. It felt like it had a good rough texture so I didnt sand.

Has anyone tried two layers of the stuff, say in a skinny recurve limb?  I could actually see putting a layer under each veneer to stiffen things up.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: ztontonz on April 16, 2020, 01:55:16 PM
I just used a Hard brush and glued it in the stack next to the belly glass, Awesome stuff.
Don't over think it Bue

Curious about this topic. What’s the reasoning behind putting it closer to the belly glass ?
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: jess stuart on April 16, 2020, 02:34:08 PM
I think someone once told me closer to belly was better.  I guess kind of like putting the thicker glass on the belly when using two different thicknesses.  I have put stabilcore mid stack and couldn't see any real difference.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: monterey on April 16, 2020, 02:36:18 PM
Stic, might have been the dreaded acetone gas!!  :o
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 16, 2020, 04:59:42 PM
Naw let it dry plenty long to get all the acetone out  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: BigJim on April 16, 2020, 10:48:29 PM
It should work better the closer you put it toward the back. Thickness advantages on the belly are due to increased compression strength, not torsional. The stabilcore is basically only there for torsional strength. It may have some advantages close to the belly.

Imagine taking the hook of a curve in your hand and twisting it around it's center.. when the stabilcore is near the back, it will resist the twist the most. Inwards near the center of the stack, it will be rolling around it's axis. Now, it shouldn't be completely neutral in any position, but more likely that you won't reap the most benefit away from the back.

BigJim
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: monterey on April 17, 2020, 01:09:46 AM
Food for thought for sure.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Crittergetter on April 17, 2020, 05:58:03 PM
I agree with Jim, I have done it both ways and in my bows I get better results closer to the back I can get.
I’ve done 2 identical layups with one on the belly and one on the back. The one with it on the back had noticeably more torsional stability.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: buddyb on April 17, 2020, 07:13:16 PM
Are you putting it up next to the glass on the back? I only have 2 lams in my recurves and was planning on putting it in the middle of the two.
Title: Re: Glueing Stabil-Kore.
Post by: Crittergetter on April 17, 2020, 08:46:18 PM
With colored glass you can go right next to the glass, with clear glass and veneers you go under the veneer.