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Title: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 15, 2008, 04:36:00 PM
I have a 67" Wesley Special that I really love, but for one thing.  It's louder than any other longbow that I have shot.  I know some will say, go to FF, but I want to avoid that.  I have shot quite a few others and dacron was quieter on all of them.  Many others will say to bump my arrow weight, but I have that covered at 14 grains per pound.  I think the recommended brace height is around 6 3/8", but I have mine around 6 1/2".  It really tames the handshock down.  How high can I go on brace?  It's bare shafting perfectly, and putting broadheads in the same spot as field tips.  I'm I missing something?  All my other longbows would emit a muffled bump, but this one has that fiberglass "tink" sound that drives me crazy!
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 15, 2008, 04:41:00 PM
I should also mention that I have a 14 strand B-50 string with wool yarn silencers.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: mike g on April 15, 2008, 05:42:00 PM
Is it a take down....
My Hill bow you can tye a rubber band on the string and make dead silent....
  I don't get it....
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: George D. Stout on April 15, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
Apex...just for schnits and giggles check the tiller on that bow.  Check it where the fadeout ends on each limb and see what it is.  That bow should whisper sweet music 8^).
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Stone Knife on April 15, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
Hows the nock height?
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: SilverTip on April 15, 2008, 08:39:00 PM
Apex, I just got my Wesley in today and started out with a 2018 at 29" long and a 250grn head. it sounds great and stacks'em in there. the bow draws 60# at 28 " I'm thinking thats just over 10 gr per pound. you might try something like that. good luck, so far I love the bow.

                    Billy
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 15, 2008, 08:46:00 PM
The tiller is 3/16" difference.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Blkbird on April 15, 2008, 08:51:00 PM
I'm sure you've already checked but how's your nock to string fit?
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: smilinicon on April 16, 2008, 08:30:00 AM
Hello. My Wesley should be here soon and I am looking forward to it. Could your string be hitting your armguard to make the noise?

Cary
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 16, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
I am getting some arm gaurd slap, but it's minor.  I have played with brace height, and nock height with no change.  I went back to bare shaft tuning, and noticed that it's much quieter shooting bare shafts.  I will play with feather orientation tonight.  I shoot 4 fletch though, so there isn't much wiggle room.  Maybe I'll have to go back to three fletches.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: vermonster13 on April 16, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
What shafts are you shooting? What are the bow's specs?
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 16, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
The bow is 50# at my 27" draw.  I am shooting 28" CE Heritage 150s with 100 grain brass insert and 250-260 grain heads.  Bare shafts really well.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: CJ Pearson on April 16, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Marty, I have seen you shoot that bow, and did not notice any noise. I had a recurve that I was hearing what I thought was alot of noise. I was telling a friend about it and he said, you know just think of it as the last thing the animal hears before the arrow hits him. He advised me to quit focusing on it and just shoot. Having said that after watching you shoot and standing behind you and not hearing anything and watching your arrows fly I would recommend not doing anything other than just keep hunting. That bow in your hands could be very detrimental to the game population around your area.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Jack Skinner on April 16, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
Your arrow is just touching the bow somewhere on release. Use some mole skin or some other materal (that is easy to remove) all over your arrow rest area if the noise goes away your arrow is just hitting somewhere. Then use some powder or chalk to find out where and either pad that area or change your shafts up or down in spine to correct.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Danny Rowan on April 16, 2008, 12:16:00 PM
Marty,

When we shot this past weekend. I did not hear any noise,whisper quiet. Sometimes we hear something that is not really there cause we release the string close to our ear. I would not do anything as CJ said.

Danny
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Bill Turner on April 16, 2008, 12:30:00 PM
If you have a portable tape recorder, have someone stand nearby when your shooting and record several shots. Can also do this with video, with sound. This feature is on a lot of new digital camera's. This will allow you to evaluate exactly what the animal might hear. As said above, you might not have as big a problem as you think.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 16, 2008, 12:39:00 PM
I think I should just listen to CJ and Danny.  They were with me shooting it over the weekend.  Maybe I'm just over thinking it!  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Stone Knife on April 16, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
I get almost no noise from woodies but I do get noise from carbons out of my Hills, try some wood and see if it quites down. That Hill should just thud mine are whisper quiet.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Orion on April 16, 2008, 10:12:00 PM
Seems you've covered most of the bases.  You could also go a little higher on brace height on a 66-inch bow.  6 3/4 inches isn't uncommon on a bow that length.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Sacred mt on April 16, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
might help to shoot another bow that is similar to your bow...
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: smilinicon on April 18, 2008, 01:59:00 AM
hello, and sorry for horning in on your post, but I received my Wesley yesterday and after putting fur silencers on it, it is the quietest bow I have heard. It really throws a 650 gr. arrow too!

Cary
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: mike g on April 18, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
Apex....
   Change your hand placement and you wont hit your Armguard....
   Place the big joint of your thumb closer to the center of the Bow....
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Ray Hammond on April 18, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
Marty,
I heard your bow as well last weekend. I thought it was extremely quiet.

I believe what you are hearing is arrow/string slap on YOU...its not noisy enough for others to hear...but YOU do.

Its more likely that, due to a different bow than you have shot before/ brace height difference, etc.

Why not try moving your stance to a slightly more open position and see if that fixes it...then you will know if I am right before changing things.

Don't worry about accuracy- just head them toward the bale and listen for whether sound is quieter.
A more open stance, a little more crook in your left arm should do the trick.
Title: Re: Noisey Hill Wesley Special?
Post by: Apex Predator on April 18, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
I am getting light arm slap.  I don't normally wear an armgaurd unless I need to keep a sleave out of the way.  I went a little over 6 1/2" on the brace height and it helped.  I don't think I will worry on this any more.  Now for my nose getting in the way of the string!  These long bows are scraping the end of my nose when I shoot them.  I have to look into my form on that one.