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Title: FHLB build a long my version. With pics.
Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:36:50 PM
First off the journey to build this style longbow started about 2 years ago. Lots of info on here and help from the guys especially Kenny thanks. Let’s begin.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:38:53 PM
My form, was made out of 1.75 thick Puma ply.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:47:27 PM
Let me get all the spec info out of the way first.
62” 50lbs @ 28”
16” long riser with green future wood
.320 total stack
1 .001 taper lam .073 @ butt end maple
2 parallel lams .073 @ butt end maple
2 .050 black glass
7.5” long tip wedge
Theses are all the supplies I had at hand, next one will have .040 glass.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:48:58 PM
The handle
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:51:48 PM
The fades
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 06:54:53 PM
All the supplies
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 07:01:31 PM
The glue up , the first glue up on a new design is always tense. I did do a dry run and all looked well.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 07:10:01 PM
Fresh off the form
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 07:15:17 PM
My concerns with this style bow are
#1 that I’d have to have a 8 plus inch brace height
#2 that the string would touch the limbs
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 28, 2020, 08:11:44 PM
I dont think you will have a issue at 62" & 7" brace I have made kenny's bow out to 64" with 7 1/4 " brace with out touching limbs & with FF string no slap , that is with his super lam in the stack , but I would bet your good with your wedges !
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Post by: kennym on February 28, 2020, 09:00:14 PM
Can't wait to see it strung up and what the weight ends up!! :thumbsup:
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:07:51 PM
Limb tips are 1.5” ahead of the back of bow riser.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:08:59 PM
Edges all cleaned up on the blue beast.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:10:26 PM
Centerline marked with a laser line
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Post by: kennym on February 28, 2020, 09:12:14 PM
I used a laser a couple times but thought on a curvy bow if all wasn’t level just right it might be off...
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:14:34 PM
Limbs drawn out and sanded to lines.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:16:15 PM
The profile
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 09:20:25 PM
First string up and it looks very good, string is off limbs and BH is low.
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Post by: jess stuart on February 28, 2020, 09:28:40 PM
Looks good.  I will be following for sure.  I have had the template to make the form forever but haven't got around to doing anything with it until today.  I glued some MDF together for a form so hopefully will get to try one before to long.  Have only heard great things about Kennys design.
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Post by: longrifle on February 28, 2020, 11:22:57 PM
I knew that Kenny’s design was already proven, was going to order his template but went out on a limb and made my own. The geometry on this one is darn near perfect, went with his 16” riser suggestion.
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 29, 2020, 05:51:51 AM
Looks good  :thumbsup: it will be interesting to see the Full Draw profile with out the super lam or power lam the brace looks different then Kenny's , nice looking bow !
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Post by: Autumnarcher on February 29, 2020, 07:18:48 AM
Thats coming along nice. Can’t wait to see it finished. Nice work.
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Post by: kennym on February 29, 2020, 08:47:32 AM
Looks great!!
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:10:49 AM
Another view
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:12:01 AM
All the handle and overlay fixings
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:13:26 AM
All glued on
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:14:32 AM
Rough shaping the handle
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:15:38 AM
More work
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 09:18:23 AM
And some more work, I do most all my handle work with a #49 rasp, slow and easy is my motto.
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Post by: Flem on February 29, 2020, 10:27:44 AM
Looking good! That laser line is brilliant! I can't wait to give that a go next time my drawn lines are rendered useless. 

What wood did you use for your handle?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 29, 2020, 10:31:19 AM
Grip is looking good.
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 10:42:24 AM
Ready for the spray booth
Flem I used Future wood that I bought off of Predator archery.
It’s resin impregnated maple same stuff Bear uses in there handles
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 02:00:02 PM
Getting her sealed up
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 02:01:16 PM
Another view
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
And another
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 02:07:11 PM
Not sure why all my pics are sideways, that’s not how they were taken on my phone. Sorry!!
I spray with Thunderbird , I’ve used others but nothing is as durable and as clear. There is no yellowing over time, the whites are still white even after several years.
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Post by: Flem on February 29, 2020, 02:28:43 PM
Looks good with some finish on it :thumbsup:
Never hear any complaints about the Thunderbird. I don't use myself, only because I like to watch the finish dry. Just don't have that much time for the T-bird
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Post by: Buemaker on February 29, 2020, 05:14:23 PM
Very nice.
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Post by: longrifle on February 29, 2020, 08:56:50 PM
Had a chance to run about 20 arrows through it today outside at 18 yards , first observations are that it’s feels very smooth in the draw, also pretty quiet upon release, very happy with the results so far. More pics tomorrow
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Post by: ztontonz on March 01, 2020, 12:22:30 AM
Looks great. Nice job!
Do you have any full draw pic?
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:53:13 PM
After 3 days and multiple coats she’s all done.
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:54:04 PM
More
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:54:41 PM
Final specs
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
More
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:56:45 PM
Some more
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:58:23 PM
The 7.5” tip wedge, it kinda is a poor mans “Super lam”
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
The tips
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:00:01 PM
What I call my bow making
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:02:10 PM
What I put on all the upper limbs of the bows I make , it’s Latin for
“ swift , silent, and deadly “
Also I’m calling this model the Hornet.
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:04:19 PM
Unstrung profile
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:05:01 PM
String view
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:05:32 PM
Another
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 01:07:49 PM
I’m going to get some full draw pics later
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 03:46:41 PM
Some outdoor shots
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 03:47:51 PM
Another
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
Full draw pics
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
That’s a full 28” draw
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Post by: Flem on March 01, 2020, 06:51:22 PM
I'm getting a kink in my neck :goldtooth:
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Post by: kennym on March 01, 2020, 07:32:42 PM
Nice job all around !!!
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Post by: longrifle on March 01, 2020, 07:41:39 PM
Again sorry about the pics being flipped
Kenny you were the one who gave me stack info and it was spot on. There is always a roll of the dice with a new model but now I have a baseline. 
And my poor mans super lam well I am impressed with how it works in a limb.
This will be my turkey, elk, and deer bow this year.
Already planning on making another one only this time a bit more fancy
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on March 01, 2020, 09:50:22 PM
Nice work man  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bow Bender on March 01, 2020, 09:57:50 PM
Great Build Along. Really nice bow, I like the way it turned out.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 02, 2020, 07:18:39 AM
Love this thread. That one turned out nice. And its got some draw left in it to.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Forwardhandle on March 02, 2020, 07:23:02 AM
Looks Great  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Flem on March 02, 2020, 10:00:20 AM
Nice job :thumbsup: Did you rub out the finish, or do you have to wait with the T-Bird?
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Post by: ztontonz on March 02, 2020, 11:58:46 AM
Great build! I appreciate all the pics.
I like your design. Really graceful, and looks like plenty of power too
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Post by: longrifle on March 02, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Flem I just waited til it was fully cured , they suggest 7 days
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Post by: longrifle on March 02, 2020, 08:23:02 PM
Tools that I used, my 6x80” edge sander is a game changer for me.
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Post by: longrifle on March 02, 2020, 08:36:09 PM
Some final thoughts, it so neat to be able to make your own bows. I’ve always liked the Shrew, Javaman style longbows and have held a few and really looked them over.
This one is longer than most Shrews at 62” but I’m not a super short bow fan, I have it braced between 7 5/8”- 7 3/4” and like the way it feels and seems very smooth in the draw. I will be shooting through a chrony on Sat and will let you know the results.
Thanks again for all the kind comments.
If you have any additional questions I’d be glad to answer them.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 03, 2020, 08:44:07 AM
Nice tools there.
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Post by: Flem on March 03, 2020, 02:49:11 PM
Nice arsenal of tools. Looks like your ready to start a business :saywhat:
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Post by: longrifle on March 03, 2020, 10:24:42 PM
I do custom woodworking as my day job, so I do own some equipment. I’d like to sell a few bows a year to maybe fund family vacation or a hunt now and then.
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Post by: YankeeRedneck on March 05, 2020, 05:02:37 AM
Yes !! I wanna buy one of these!!!  :clapper:
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Post by: Flem on March 06, 2020, 11:42:39 AM
Mission accomplished  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on March 06, 2020, 04:09:02 PM
Nice build and nice bow...  You got her done quick too...  You gonna tweak anything on the next one??  Hope you get good #'s on the chrony... Don't forget to list all the details... Speed means nothing without the details...
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Post by: longrifle on March 08, 2020, 04:04:42 PM
Ok men I was able to get some arrows through a chrony yesterday and here are the results.
550 grain arrow 3 shot average 172
480 grain arrow 3 shot average 183
Again the bow is 50# @ 28”
Here is what I call my stuff
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Post by: YankeeRedneck on March 08, 2020, 11:15:18 PM
I like it !
Great looking logo.
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Post by: Flem on March 09, 2020, 12:53:30 PM
Thats a great graphic :thumbsup: You design that?
I'm kind of surprised they let you post it.
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Post by: Shredd on March 12, 2020, 12:46:43 PM
  I would say that is about 179 @10gpp...That is a decent speed, especially for the first bow off the form...  A little tweaking may put you in the mid 180's...  Well done, Bro...