Do any of you have any idea if an alcohol stove would be an odor deterrent in a ground blind while hunting white tails?
I have been thinking of trying it. I have used a small charcoal stove and the deer don't seem to notice and I think it covers my sent as well.
But alcohol might be a different story. :dunno:
Open flame alcohol stove? Probably not the best idea.
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For cooking breakfast???
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Anything with a flame is going to subject you to carbon monoxide. Think about that and be
careful.
Possibly more dangerous than useful.
I run a big buddy heater in my blind and it doesn't make any difference if they get down wind of you they are going to smell you no matter what .I don't think burning alcohol is going to give off any scent to cover yours .
Not sure that's a great idea, if it's for heating the blind I'd much rather go with something like a buddy heater or something similar with a low o2 sensor and tip over shut off switch .. even the smallest buddy heater does a great job of heating a blind and I've never seen a response from deer
Wish I had that problem. In Florida I think we need super silent A/C to cool our blinds.
The idea is actually for heating water for hot tea on those all day sets.
I've used sterno but a penny stove would be less noisy than opening a sterno can.
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I have used many times a Trangia alcohol stove or a Esbit solid fuel stove to make coffee or warm up chili while in a flip top ice fishing sled/shelter or a blind. Both work great for heating things up and are silent. BE SURE TO VENT.
With the containers available now....I don't see a need for a stove.
My dad always took a thermos, as far back as 40 years ago for us both when I was a boy, and it worked fine. Now there are products that work even better.
I routinely carry two small thermos bottles (general description, not necessarily an actual Thermos brand) when I stand or blind hunt. They always seem to stay hot all day and neither of them are high dollar brands.
The trick to it is to pour boiling water (or as hot a water as you can get from the faucet) in the thermos and put the lid on it while you make your coffee, tea or whatever. Dump it out and immediately add your drink and cap it off. I carry two smaller ones because once you open one, it starts to cool off. I generally drink one early and save the other for later so it stays hot.
My favorite for the early one is to put two Irish Breakfast Tea packets and three sugar packets in the bottle and add the boiling water. By the time I get to it, it's dark, strong and sweet. Just what I need for those cold early mornings. If you wanted to mix or brew in the cup, you could just put boiling water in the bottle and carry your preferred beverage along with you.
All that being said... I have packed in all manner of small stoves. I have used the Penny Stove like you mentioned (homemade from an aluminum can) and other alcohol stoves. I have never hunted in a blind that was so weather tight I thought fumes or CO would be a problem. My problem is always pack space. You have to have room to carry the stove, fuel bottle (and have enough fuel if you are going to use it more than once) and whatever cup or vessel you need to heat the water. Not to mention all the fixings like coffee, tea or whatever. The two bottles with their caps and cups screwed on top take up less space and require less fiddling around in the blind. My experience is that I get just as much of a warm up from the drink as I would from having some sort of heat source in the blind heating up my human stink and pumping it out to where the deer might smell me.
So, for me the two thermos type bottles work best. I think they are about 16-20 oz. each. Just enough that I always need to "step out" of the blind whenever a deer shows up.
OkKeith
I have a 'tent heater' that has a filter that soaks up Coleman gasoline. You flip it to get it soaked and then light it, when the flames die down you close the cover and have a magic campfire that can kill you in an enclosed space. i have an ice shack heater that runs on gas canisters, as long as there is a good cross breeze it works well enough to keep one from freezing to death in an ice shack if there is good cross ventilation. I will never forget my first deer hunt. 14 years old, drove all the way out to the river on my Bridgestone 90 cc motorcycle at 5 a.m. I built a stick blind with burlap camo the week before, a home made doghouse. damn cold for the 1st of october. To keep from freezing, i started picking up little sticks and started a stick fire. As it got lighter I could see a group of deer about a half mile down by the river, i had to keep warm. I didn't want to go out looking for sticks, because the deer would see me, so I started picking out ones in my blind. Then a really cold breeze picked up so i built up my fire with bigger sticks from my blind, I was still shivering. With nothing left to hold the burlap up I tried using the burlap as a blanket. some yayhoo was down on the bottom field trying to stalk those deer with no cover. They all busted, jumped the Rock River and kept going. I put my burlap on the fire and ate my sandwich while the other hunters trudged up the hill all talking and yelling, while the deer bolted out of the far side of the wooded hill side. The sun was getting warmer, I got on my motorcycle went to town and bought a pair of long johns.
Back when I first started hunting we never had heaters so we made our own. We use to take old coffee cans ( metal ) ,place a roll of TP in them. Fill with alcohol. The TP would act like a wick and burn for a while. They did work great . But they were dangerous as heck. Never had a deer bust me because of scent using one. Fun times in the mighty U.P. Miss those days.
Quote from: Burly on August 22, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
Back when I first started hunting we never had heaters so we made our own. We use to take old coffee cans ( metal ) ,place a roll of TP in them. Fill with alcohol. The TP would act like a wick and burn for a while. They did work great . But they were dangerous as heck. Never had a deer bust me because of scent using one. Fun times in the mighty U.P. Miss those days.
Thank you, that was the answer I was looking for.
So were you wanting a heater or water boiling stove?...cause you have claimed both. Just trying to figure out exactly what you are looking for so I can give a correct answer.
A TP stove won't boil water very good imo.
Never mentioned a heater, just a stove.
That's all right, I got my answer.
Thanks
Ok great...Burley mentioned a heater and you said that's the answer you were looking for....but you mentioned boiling for tea...
Just trying to help.
TP stoves are great survival assets to keep in your car in case you get stranded btw.
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Sterno stoves are safe enough if they are not setting on a flammable surface. It takes a while to boil water for a nice cup of tea with them, but if you are just sitting there anyway. I shot a pretty nice buck while I was making a nice cup of tea on my folding stick stove. The real trick was the metal canteen with the removable pot holder/carrying case cover. The other trick is cook something that deer like. They, obviously, like Earl Grey tea with honey.
With the current level of insulated containers this seems a waste of effort :dunno: but I guess it might alleviate boredom on a long sit :laughing:
Make sure to ventilate. We dont need you passing out :goldtooth:
I think he just wanted to hear someone say yes or no to the scent spooking deer.
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I'd sure like to know who has a blind so air tight they'd need to worry about "ventilating".
The best/longest lasting insulating jugs are those that use a true vacuum system. The old glass ones were pretty fragile, but the newer stainless steel versions work very well. A bit pricier than the foam insulated kind though.
Quote from: BAK on August 23, 2019, 06:55:18 PM
I'd sure like to know who has a blind so air tight they'd need to worry about "ventilating".
The best/longest lasting insulating jugs are those that use a true vacuum system. The old glass ones were pretty fragile, but the newer stainless steel versions work very well. A bit pricier than the foam insulated kind though.
I have two actually. Kivoman deluxe models. I'll ge a pic of one tomorrow if you like. Although I left it open to air out today and it's raining like crazy right now . . .[emoji53]
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I would need an enclosed blind with enough room for a comfortable cot, a stove, sink, a mirror,(to see if my hair looks good) and a potty with magazine rack and a bench to set my tea on.
GCook, I don't doubt someone makes a fairly tight blind, but my point is that if you are in it using it wouldn't you have to have the windows open, hence no need for more ventilation?? :deadhorse:
We actually keep them shut up tight as much as possible. Us ozonics if needed when opening windows and a redneck a/c if it's hot.
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Well, my bad, this is what happens when you assume "blind" means a pop up tent blind. When I looked up the make you mentioned and found that hard shell penthouse, well, nuff said. :dunno:
Lol. When I have to run a lil buddy heater I always have a window open. I prefer tripods and ladders but I have a couple of pop ups as well.
That said I invested in some quality cold weather gear this year so maybe that'll eliminate the need for propane and propane accessories.
I also realize these blinds aren't popular everywhere. Here in Texas they are selling well.
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