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Title: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Ron LaClair on July 18, 2019, 12:22:32 PM
Sometimes you hear complaints of finger pinch on a short bow. If the bow limb is designed properly finger pinch won't be a problem

This is a 54" Shrew Classic Hunter II being drawn to about 32". Note the bow tips are not following the bend of the limb but have enough forward bend giving a longer radius that doesn't crowd the fingers.

www.shrewbows.com

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Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Charlie Lamb on July 18, 2019, 04:00:02 PM
That's not only a testament to the bows design but how tough it is. I know it can take it but it just makes me cringe. Forget about finger pinch.  :clapper:
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: pavan on July 18, 2019, 05:17:02 PM
That looks like a left hand bow.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Gator1 on July 18, 2019, 06:56:04 PM
To me it boils down to physics the stress on short limbs and constant long drawing would concern me.

The one exception is a static tip recurve like the RER as an example.  How long do shorter bows?

I've heard from a couple bowyers that your actual draw length x 2 would be a comfortable bow length regardless of limb design. I'm in agreement
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Ron LaClair on July 18, 2019, 07:02:20 PM
 Shrew bows have a 30-year warranty that is transferrable, even if the bow is sold by the original owner.

www.shrewbows.com
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: GCook on July 18, 2019, 07:08:06 PM
I have a 54" Bear that causes me issues with my ring finger drawing.  It already has issues but 58" and 60" bows don't exasperate it so much.

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Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Keefer on July 18, 2019, 09:36:06 PM
   My RER Arroyo also has those static limbs Mitch referred about and I have no issues with pinch.
Another very well made bow is my Little Hoots recurve with no noticeable pinch and its 56" but Lee did make some 54" also.
  Many bowers all over the world have developed some nice short bows and it's really good to have so many bowyers offering short bows now especially for those who love to hunt the ground and use pop up blinds.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: dbd870 on July 19, 2019, 08:20:32 AM
I draw 28" and my KMag never had finger pinch problems
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: John Cholin on July 19, 2019, 10:23:40 AM
I am shooting a Fox Archery High Sierra recurve that is a 56" bow.  Ron King and I discussed my 30 inch draw length and he said he could design the limb wedges to give me a smooth draw out to 31" on that bow.  It draws 64 lbs. at 30 inches smooth as silk and I don't notice any finger-pinch with it at all.  Its going to Montana with me come September and then whitetail hunting in NY, NJ and PA come October and November.

Bet Regards,

JMC
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: chris K. on July 19, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
Looks like you are drawing it further than 32"!
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Burly on July 19, 2019, 01:06:07 PM
I never had any issues with finger pinch out of 56 " Elkheart or a 54" Helms deep. I only have a 28" draw length so that may help. But big hands.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: algstick on July 19, 2019, 01:19:47 PM
If you notice those limbs are not bending any more than any short recurve limbs bend, with a 30 year warranty and these two men's name behind that bow I would not worry about a failure. also, the string angle to the limb at the nocks looks to be well under 90 degrees even at 32" draw so I doubt stacking would be an issue.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: YosemiteSam on July 19, 2019, 05:12:20 PM
I used to shoot a PSE Strato Flight compound in the 90s with fingers.  No pinch.  Shot that thing fine out to 80 yards.

Now my hunting bow is a 50" Browning Cobra.  No pinch.  Can't make those 80-yard shots, though.

I can see stacking as way more of a problem than pinch.  But only drawing 27-28" means I don't really notice.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Terry Green on July 20, 2019, 05:32:18 PM
Questioning Ron LaClare.....who's design has been copied by the multitudes.....

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Compared to what Ron LaClare has done in bow hunting..... Most who criticize him have only killed time  :readit:
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Tom M on July 20, 2019, 06:54:20 PM
Ouch, I think Mr Geen just Dropped the mic.. My 2 cents I have a 29 inch DL and shoot a 58 inch Toelke whistler . Zero finger pinch . Some bowers have this game down to a science..
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Gator1 on July 20, 2019, 11:29:01 PM
Quote from: Terry Green on July 20, 2019, 05:32:18 PM
Questioning Ron LaClare.....who's design has been copied by the multitude
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Compared to what Ron LaClare has done in bow hunting..... Most who criticize him have only killed time  :readit:

Mr LaClare has a wealth of experience which is fantastic There are many pioneers in archery. How many people have been shooting Trad for 40 plus years?  People who build bows which there are many I'm not sure they have copied a concept which has been manufactured for many years.







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Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 21, 2019, 07:01:55 AM
It is in the design folks. And I think Mr. Ron and a few others have it figured out.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Ray Lyon on July 21, 2019, 07:09:27 AM
I think Shrew longbows are awesome and the Super Shrew lineup is well thought out and tested.  They've been around for 22 years.  'I've heard from.....' doesn't carry any weight compared to 22years of production and fifty more years of extensive experience beyond that.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Keefer on July 21, 2019, 07:27:35 AM
  Man talk about an endless draw on short bows check out this short bow in this ad 61 years ago!
does anyone remember these from back then?
  Not sure anyone can read the article but claims it can be pulled as far as the arm can reach?
Short bows are surely getting a lot of attention with the ground hunters these days and glad we have bowyers making them . :archer:
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 21, 2019, 08:17:24 AM
That has to be a light weight bow to get that small of a gain per inch. It is scary looking being way past 90 degrees string angle.
Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Ron LaClair on July 21, 2019, 09:05:45 AM
The Shrew was introduced in 1994, 25 years ago. It was described as a "bold innovation". There had been short recurves available for a long time but no one was making a short longbow back then. It took awhile for people to realize with the right design (forward handle) a short longbow would disprove the idea that short bows stacked and were unstable. It wasn't long before other bow makers were making short bows also.

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Title: Re: Short bow finger pinch
Post by: Overspined on September 17, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
A 30 year warranty would place these fellas at about 118 years old, I'd say that's good enough.  :goldtooth: