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Title: Lam colors
Post by: Wolftrail on March 28, 2019, 05:46:25 PM

What is the easiest way to color a handle lam piece and glue it in place without the color leaching out the color has to go deep into the piece as profiling of the handle is done later.  Say I'm using white wood like maple and want to color it red.. :dunno:  Ya I know just buy some purple heart or whatever.   What do you use to clean oily wood with, and no I dont use Acetone.   :nono:

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 28, 2019, 07:41:32 PM

Stablize it with dye in the resin.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Wolftrail on March 29, 2019, 11:41:50 AM

Stic.  Will water based or plastic resin still adhere to the wood after the dye is applied.  I'm using Welwood plastic resin or TB3.   I know you probably use Smooth On mostly.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Flem on March 29, 2019, 01:00:48 PM

Quote from: Crooked Stic on March 28, 2019, 07:41:32 PM

Stablize it with dye in the resin.

How deep will the stabilizing resin penetrate Hard Maple?

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 29, 2019, 05:05:19 PM

The bow I just done is a hard birdseye. on some maples it will completly saturate it. There will be dense places that does not take resin. Some will take on enough resin that it dont float. here are a couple of pics of different maples. The first one floated after 4 days soaking
. The second did not float and is pretty much colored all the thru. I dont think the hard rock maple(the white stuff would take much at all. Soft maple will and be better with resin for a riser but would need reinforcement. Dean I use cactus juice with alumalite dye. And smooth on with no problems.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Flem on March 29, 2019, 05:53:03 PM

Very nice :thumbsup:
That opens up a lot of possibilities. Love that blue.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Wolftrail on March 29, 2019, 06:55:47 PM

Thx Stic.  I'am using Hard Maple.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Crittergetter on March 29, 2019, 09:00:56 PM

Dye it after profiling and sanding

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2019, 08:23:25 AM

I have tried Trans tint in denatured alcohol and pulled a vacuum on maple and got it to tint some but nothing real vivid.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: KenH on March 30, 2019, 08:35:07 AM

Quote from: Crittergetter on March 29, 2019, 09:00:56 PM

Dye it after profiling and sanding

My thoughts exactly.  Apply a protective coat of urethane (instead of masking tape) to neighboring bits that won't be dyed, so the dye won't migrate to those places.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Wolftrail on March 30, 2019, 11:54:26 AM

Looks like you had some leaching on that bow.  Makes sense to do it after the profiling is done.  Probably go and buy some colored exotics much better that way.

Title: Re: Lam colors
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 30, 2019, 02:59:01 PM

There no leaching on the resin. It is cured at 175 for 4 hours.
You can buy dyed spectraply sheets that are birch. So far none of them have bleed over on me.
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