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Title: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: John Scifres on April 02, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
OK guys and girls.  It's time to step up and start posting buildalongs.  We have a new Traditional Bowyer's Bible and I'm seeing a little more chatter out there.  But where the heck are the buildalongs?  All you new guys need to do 'em.  Us old guys did our bit.  We've said all we can and are set in our ways.  Our buildalongs are boring anyway.  We need some youth here.  Challenge us and our doctrine.  

Cut a tree and see if it can really be seasoned and tillered as fast as that pot stirrer Tim Baker says it can.  Use different woods, even the ones that used to not be bow wood but now are.  Burn some bow bellies up and show us how that heat tempering works.

Come on, wake us old guys up.  Have you ever read the kid's book "Verdi" by Jannell Cannon?  I'm one of those big fat green snakes laying on a branch waiting for one of you whippersnappers to wake me up.

Please.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: onemississipp on April 02, 2008, 02:43:00 PM
I have yet to get  TBB vol 4.
I would love to see some build alongs also.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: mjc on April 02, 2008, 02:53:00 PM
I just cut a big mulberry last week when it gets dry I may give it a go. Nothing like failing in public.
Matt
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: robtattoo on April 02, 2008, 02:58:00 PM
I'd do one if I had a stave to play with..... :)
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: jared s on April 02, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
I've been considering doing a "poor mans" buildalong for awhile, catering to those (like me)who don't have a shop or a lot of tools. Something for beginners or people (like me) who have found themselves stuck in a city without a lot of space. All I need is a bow that doesn't blow up in my face.   ;)
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: John Scifres on April 02, 2008, 03:17:00 PM
Dustin, buy it, you'll like it.

Matt, Get that mulberry roughed out.  I think Baker says you can dry it in 9 days or something equally preposterous. You know you could hurt yourself going that fast.  Better to just take it slow and easy [grumbled the old fat snake].

Dang Rob, that hurt.  I actally have your piece roughed out as of last night.  I might even finish this weekend.

Jared, now that is what I'm talking about.  My first 5 bows or so were made with a hatchet, a 4 way rasp, and a butcher knife in my back yard or in a spare bedroom upstairs in my first house.  I bet there's still yellow dust up there.  

I remember a foolish use of a grinder to shape a bow in there when it was too cold to work outside.  Not a smart move.  That and sinewing in my kitchen rank right up there.  Here's my very first (and maybe the very first ever internet) buildalong.  I learned a lot and got free advice from some of the greatest bowyers alive.    Stalking Tiller Live I (http://residents.bowhunting.net/sticknstring/sinew.html)
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: bowmaker07 on April 02, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
I was just on the phone this morning trying to get a couple logs from a friend(oak,walnut).They've been cut for two years and left outside so I don't know what shape they're in.I want to do a self-bow because I've built 10 board bows in the last couple months(laid-off).If I come up with something maybe I'll do a build-a-long but there won't be anything new and earth shaking,I'm still new at this.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: robtattoo on April 02, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
Sorry John, only pokin' fun!  :D
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: dino on April 02, 2008, 04:22:00 PM
Hey Rob, if you drop by the house there is an ash stave in the barn that you can have  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: BryanB on April 02, 2008, 05:01:00 PM
I just cut some new exparimental woods (for me).  I have a nice holly wood stave and a "straigt" english Ivy stave drying.  I have a photinia stave ready and have my eye on a very large scotch broom bush that should yeild two billets.  When I finish my service-berrry bow I'm working on, I'll start with some of the wierd wood.
Bryan
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: Osagetree on April 02, 2008, 05:38:00 PM
I love the build alongs even if it was done before. Never know when you'll pick up on something that may save time or you could spot something interesting laying on the work bench.

Cured bow wood in 9 days? What ta  :eek:
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: soopernate on April 02, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
I might try to put together a red oak board bow buildalong....??? I have pretty limited skills but might like having everyone help me out with the process. Kind of ashamed of my work area though lol.....
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: wingnut on April 02, 2008, 05:51:00 PM
Now John, don't be stirring up the new guys.  They are probably sitting back and waiting for you and the rest of us to do another one.  Don't really see that happening soon though.  

BTW where did you find a branch big enough to lay on?  Is it bow wood?

LOL

Mike
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: Linc on April 02, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
My bow making has become to sperodic to even think about doing a build-a-long.My latest bow has been in the works for 9 months.    :knothead:
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: mike hall on April 02, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
bernie had one going.......... is that one killing stuff yet? looked like a good one
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: shawn on April 02, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
I just finished laying out a hickory stave I got from Linc. I will try to get out and take photos as I go. Been having trouble getting motivated.

Shawn
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: robtattoo on April 02, 2008, 06:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dino:
Hey Rob, if you drop by the house there is an ash stave in the barn that you can have   :goldtooth:  
You at home on Saturday morning Dino? I'll pop on over & pick 'er up!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: horatio1226 on April 02, 2008, 06:59:00 PM
I took my drawknives to a sharpening service to be sharpened and he ground them on the top and bottom. Needless to say, I had to buy a new one.
Well it came and then realized that I needed a bandsaw blade. Finding one 77" was a bit of a challenge but I finally found one and they should be here this week. I have had this beautiful, seasoned black walnut sitting on my bench for months. I have some nice bamboo slats waiting to be glued to it. I'm in. I'll do a build along. I could use the help. I've done a couple but really am a novice. I am dying to see this black walnut in a bow. Give me a couple days to get started. Any advice on laying out and starting a boo backed black walnut? Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: bowmaker07 on April 02, 2008, 07:31:00 PM
What is everyone's opinion on walnut for a self-bow?I see horatio is going to back his with boo.With limbs 1 3/4 wide and 66 long it should be fine w/o backing right?A looker too!
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: dosbow56 on April 02, 2008, 07:39:00 PM
Where the heck do ya get that osage stuff anyway.....LOL
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 02, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
Yup, time for the youngsters to do some bow showings.  :)  Jawge
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 02, 2008, 10:34:00 PM
Question: I have a mulberry tree outside the house.would it be better to wait till summer to cut it and will this make a nice bow in the 55# range? I'll take pic's tomorrow, anyway... I'm going to try that... a friend is going to be dropping trees soon on his property.

Apple limb... use that for my smoker
Ash trees... try a bow or 2 from them.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: John Scifres on April 03, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Y'all make me smile  :)

Cut bow wood when you can.

Walnut makes a pretty bow.

Osborne, Oklahoma.

Boo backed black walnut?  Make your bamboo thin and your bow long.  Walnut isn't the best in compression.  But dang is it pretty.  Go for 50# or under.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: bow loving man on April 03, 2008, 10:13:00 AM
You guys never cease to amaze me!  Wish I had the time and skills to build one but I don't. That is why admire you guys so much...Let's see some pics of those projects in the making!!!
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: H A Higgins on April 03, 2008, 11:27:00 AM
I'm needing the secret for takedown sleeve installment.  
One way I was showed was to sand down the brass - but sometimes that makes it very thin - and it still does not fit tight - I can get it lined up correctly - glued up correctly, then spend way too much time getting it to slide smoothly - usually messing it up. - WHAT's THE SECRET?
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: dosbow56 on April 03, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
Ohhhhh-klahoma......LOL   ;)  Good answer.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: Linc on April 03, 2008, 05:14:00 PM
Herb, Sent you an email.
Title: Re: Selfbow Buildalong Challenge
Post by: Lost Arra on April 03, 2008, 05:37:00 PM
H.A.: I rubbed the connection with beeswax and it would fit tight but still separate. When fitting I used a polishing wheel then buffed sleeve. It did not thin the metal.


I had a check in the lower billet so I wrapped it with sinew/hide glue just for insurance.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v628/LostArrow/takedown02.jpg)