Post by: KyRidgeRunner on January 29, 2019, 10:10:18 PM
Post by: M60gunner on January 29, 2019, 11:13:09 PM
Post by: Jason W on January 30, 2019, 06:02:46 AM
There is so many ways to do it. Tinker and see what you like.
Heck, I have even took the Carbon express Bulldog nock collars and used them. They actually work pretty good as footings. I would not recommend them solely, but they work pretty good on your everyday arrows.
I personally like my footing 1.5”-2” long.
I also agree, if you make them yourself, taper the ends of your footings. Makes a cleaner pull on the target and if the footing does come in contact with the shelf material, it saves on it.
We sell many sizes on our site if your interested.
Basically, I cant recomend them enough! They really strengthen the carbon.
Post by: Jason W on January 30, 2019, 06:08:42 AM
Post by: Porkchop1 on January 30, 2019, 12:10:39 PM
Post by: Tomas Stieber on January 30, 2019, 12:25:40 PM
Post by: Jason W on January 30, 2019, 12:29:11 PM
Everyone has their favorite adhesives.
Clean the shaft and footing really well with alcohol or acetone. Then glue her up!
Yes, it is aluminum.
Tighter fit, the better!
The one smaller gray one is Top hat stainless steel. It has a lip on it. I like to glue that onto the end of the shafts first, then glue insert in. Makes a great square end and they are durable. I have been experimenting with these TopHAt ones. I like them.
I am thinking about carrying them on my site along with my Arra Foots!
Anyway, I am glad to help out in any way. PM,Email or call anytime!
Post by: Jason W on January 30, 2019, 12:30:24 PM
IMHO a footing over an inch is overkill and may start to alter the spine of the arrow, slightly.
Yes it will!
You should always do your tuning and testing with the footing installed!
The little footings I mentioned and showed do not effect spine at all.
1” and over....yes!
Post by: ozy clint on January 30, 2019, 03:19:52 PM
IMHO a footing over an inch is overkill and may start to alter the spine of the arrow, slightly.
it only starts to alter spine once is extends back beyond where the insert finishes, which can be seen as another tuning option. this might allow the use a lighter spine arrow and longer footing for higher FOC. as for overkill, once the rear of the footing is behind the insert, the closer the back of the footing is to the arrows balance point (center of gravity) the less chance of the arrow breaking behind the footing because the center of gravity has a much shorter lever on which to impart lateral forces on the shaft on angular hits.
Post by: KyRidgeRunner on January 30, 2019, 07:16:05 PM
Post by: PistolPete on February 04, 2019, 12:05:45 PM
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I also adjust the length of the footing to tune the arrow, rather than the length of the arrow shaft itself. I draw 32" so I need the arrow to stay full length. And a longer footing allows me to use a lighter spine arrow, which weighs less, which gets me more FOC.
Post by: Trenton G. on February 04, 2019, 01:06:44 PM
Post by: PistolPete on February 04, 2019, 01:30:26 PM
Post by: ozy clint on February 04, 2019, 03:04:32 PM
Post by: Jason W on February 04, 2019, 03:24:55 PM
i use a little tube cutter like the plumbers use on copper pipe. it cuts it square then i debur with tools from my reloading kit like pete says.
This ^^^
I also sand/bevel the edges. Just like the ones we sell
Post by: hybridbow hunter on February 07, 2019, 02:38:11 PM
I use it on black eagle outlaw 350 with 92 gr steel insert. Fitting is perfect with tight tolerance and arrow end is really strong with that combo
Post by: Jason W on February 08, 2019, 05:37:08 AM
The tophat system ( steel collar and steel insert) is really wonderfull and they have so many different diameter listed than everyone can find the best one for his shaft.
I use it on black eagle outlaw 350 with 92 gr steel insert. Fitting is perfect with tight tolerance and arrow end is really strong with that combo
Looks very similar to what I have been doing. I love the TOP HAT products.
Post by: Bldtrailer on February 08, 2019, 09:08:48 AM
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Post by: KyRidgeRunner on February 11, 2019, 09:58:10 PM
Post by: Gehrke145 on February 13, 2019, 12:33:36 PM
Post by: CovertHunter55 on June 01, 2020, 12:27:23 PM
Post by: M60gunner on June 01, 2020, 01:07:19 PM
Only complaint I have is pulling them from those plastic fabric target faces but then agian any kind of lip including from an insert makes pulling from those targets a PIA.
Post by: Tedd on June 01, 2020, 05:09:52 PM
How is your arrow made? I don't see how the front of it is any stronger than an aluminum arrow?