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Title: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: J.Nordwell on March 30, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
Well today I was shooting both of my broadhead setups. 200 gr snuffers and 200 gr magnus 2 blade 1 1/2 dia. Well I missed the target twice and went into the plywood back stop. Now people say that 2 blades will go in further but they didn't they went about the same almost even with the back side of the blade to the plywood. My setup is a BW PMA 57-58 lbs at my draw and a 640 gr arrow. Might use the snuffer for elk and deer with the results I got today. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: BobW on March 30, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
Excellent information once Trojan Horse season opens....   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: J.Nordwell on March 30, 2008, 08:09:00 PM
Forgot to mention shots were at 20 yards.
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: ishiwannabe on March 30, 2008, 08:23:00 PM
Were they both solid hits or did one or both deflect a bit? I have always heard that 2 blades penetrate better....???
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: J.Nordwell on March 30, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
Both were clean misses on the target clean hits on the plywood. I guess I was thinking like a logger on both of those shots!! lol
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: JL on March 30, 2008, 08:25:00 PM
I always thought the snuffers and woodmans were good heads. I have never had a chance to use them as I have soooo many 2 blade heads that I may not have a need to ever buy broadheads again. Found some heads on clearance (three heads in a pack for $1, better then the dollar menu at McDondald's!) and they take care of business. I think prefect arrow flight has everything to due with penetration. Arrow placement is paramount also. Sounds like your setup will be great for Elk! Good Luck on the Elk!

JL
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: scriv on March 30, 2008, 09:25:00 PM
I never tried shooting plywood.  We don't have a hunting season for it in Michigan.  Does it taste like chicken or a subtle mesquite like flavor?  Sorry.  Just couldn't help myself.  :D
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: beyondmyken on March 30, 2008, 09:38:00 PM
All that tells you is penetration on 3/4 inch plywood is not adequate for a double lung if the elk is wearing plywood body armor ;^)
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: Hoytman on March 30, 2008, 09:45:00 PM
A sharp cut on contact broadhead in wood ,(or bone) is like splitting wood with a sharp axe. It doesn't work as good as a dull axe, (chisel point). JMO
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: sswv on March 30, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
I am and will always be a BIG fan of Snuffers. thanks for sharing your findings.
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: Mike Burch on March 30, 2008, 10:18:00 PM
I've had similiar experences.

Mike
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: NDTerminator on March 31, 2008, 09:59:00 AM
IMO, doesn't mean anything as penetrating through something like plywood isn't a matter of cutting, it's KE imparted by the arrow weight and velocity on impact.

As both arrows weigh the same, were shot from the same bow and at the same distance, I don't find it at all surprising the both penetrated in about the same fashion...

Both are excellent broadheads and will do a job on live critters...
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: d. ward on March 31, 2008, 10:21:00 AM
I going to come clean too.I'am also a plywood shooter..I do it a bit more maybe then most guy's.But I'am shooting at the plywood normaly....Ya ya I know...But think of this,if you broadheads won't penatrate 1/2 or 5/8 plywood at 20 yards..You may want to up your poundage before elk season...But what I found on the plywood test was my 50# bow at 20 yards thats with all else equil like arrow weight..It shot all the broadheads I tested in about the same amount.Seemed like I'd reached the limit of penatration from that draw weight maybe ??? bowdoc
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: bowdude on March 31, 2008, 11:28:00 AM
So what does a field point do on that plywood?
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: overbo on March 31, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
I've shot 2 elk.One w/ a 160 snuffer and the other w/ a 160 2 blade Ace.Both shots where 30 to 35yrds w/ 60+ lbs.Snuffer head centered the rib cage w/ poor penatration and never fund the elk.The other w/ the Ace,the arro went thru the shoulder blade and centered a rib under the blade and buried under the skin on the opposite side.
The arro weight of the 2 where quite different.The snuffer are was 420grs and the Ace was 560gr.
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: DeerSpotter on March 31, 2008, 01:41:00 PM
It sure looks like it's easy to get hooked on, speed and weight of an arrow, and also the poundage of the bow.

I have always had to learn to adapt to what I have.  I had a wonderful nice size eight point buck and with that buck was a 180 lb. matriarch doe, the reason I know the weight of the doe, she was taken a week later, by someone else. I had to let them both go, no qualms, no regrets, but I had a 50# John McDonald bow, my limitations(that I disciplined myself to) was 20 yd.,(three years ago) they were both at 35 yd., that was my concentration, now I could've relied on a 50# bow at 35 yd. my arrow weight at that time was 550 gr.  I certainly could have relied on those two things, but I have determined that hunting with a traditional bow, is about getting as close to the game as possible.  If I have to wait, that's part of the disciplined.  I think sometimes we can overtest something, but the real test, is what we are made out of, not our bows and arrows.

I enjoy the "hunt" much more when I jumped into the mind of the "game"


Pastor Carl
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: MW on March 31, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
Good point BowDude.

My experience is that the penetration with a field point on plywood is the same all other things being equal.

The problem is that the plywood here in Utah leaves a weak blood trail and you need as many cutting edges as possible.
Title: Re: 2 blade vs 3 blade and 3/4 plywood
Post by: Hoytman on March 31, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by NDTerminator:
IMO, doesn't mean anything as penetrating through something like plywood
Plywood is not all that unlike a rib bone or shoulder blade on a large animal. If I couldn't put a broadhead through plywood, I wouldn't consider using it for elk etc. JMO