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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Roy from Pa on January 01, 2019, 04:32:33 AM
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What happened to 2018?
Time sure flies the older I get.
Nothing changed here at my place.
Darn 1 year old puppy got us up at 3:45 am.
She's so happy in the morning that ya just can't get mad at her.
Wishing you guys a happy new year and a great 2019.
Roy
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Happy New Year!
I was up early and had planned to head out hunting, but it’s so damn windy I decided to stay in and enjoy my coffee. Winds are supposed to die down later, so maybe I’ll head out this afternoon.
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After an evening bringing in the New Year with some friends I was happily unconscious to the world when my phone woke me..... going to have to shoot that phone. :archer2:
Happy New Year Y'all
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Sure wish I had that #:)
LOL
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I went to bed as usual and sure nuff, it was here when I woke up!! LOL
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Happy new year everyone! Like Kenny I was in bed at 9:00 and at midnight my 4 year old woke me to tell me there was a lot of bangs outside! Headed to Bass Pro this morning with the family. Got to return my Christmas from my wife, gonna see what I can find there as far as traditional hunting goes. Maybe some arrows or broad heads.
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Well I aint did nothing yet but Ima fixin to for little bit in the shop.
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What happened to 2018?
Time sure flies the older I get.
Nothing changed here at my place.
Darn 1 year old puppy got us up at 3:45 am.
She's so happy in the morning that ya just can't get mad at her.
Wishing you guys a happy new year and a great 2019.
Roy
No building yet have a half built bow sitting in the closet for the last 7 weeks.
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Grabbed a osage bow off the wall and some wood arrows & shot about 100 Arrows stump shooting today had fun first shots of 2019 Happy new year to everybody !
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Happy new year everyone! Like Kenny I was in bed at 9:00 and at midnight my 4 year old woke me to tell me there was a lot of bangs outside! Headed to Bass Pro this morning with the family. Got to return my Christmas from my wife, gonna see what I can find there as far as traditional hunting goes. Maybe some arrows or broad heads.
I was proud of Renee this year. She said, and I quote: " Let's just get one thing to have under the tree for each other since we buy what we want most times "
The new grandbaby came out great on gifts too... LOL
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Got up early and glued up a limb for a special bow. Should be out trying to fill my last doe tag. Deer have been winning on every outing for the last two months. I think there cheating somehow lol
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Deer have been winning on every outing for the last two months. I think there cheating somehow lol
I know the feeling.
Was really hopin we’d have some snow and colder temps by now.
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Happy new year everyone!
I spent the day learning to stitch leather for a non archery project.
Dave.
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Well the deer stayed safe this evening. I managed to find a riser in this block. With the practice righty ruffed out the lefty is next. :goldtooth:
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Was really hopin we’d have some snow and colder temps by now.
My thoughts exactly!
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I did squat today. Had a food hangover.
I love all the bow pics in this forumWhat happened to 2018?
Darn 1 year old puppy got us up at 3:45 am.
She's so happy in the morning that ya just can't get mad at her.
, but I want to see some Puppy pics!
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Candy
Labrador
Creme Brulee color.
She should have horns as crazy as she is..
LOL
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I did a dry run on the new form. A very frustrating thing to see so many gaps. So, I started making a new take down form based on the same bow, they are more fun anyway.
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Where were the gaps?
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Above and below the riser, I didn't get any pics of them. The limbs look good, I just need to work the riser more. It was just one of those mornings that I was better off to work on something else.
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Jameson morning?
LOL
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LOL, No, but it could be a Jameson evening now that you bring it up.
I did get the limb form done today, so if Jameson be kind to me tonight I hope to grind a couple of tapers in the morning and get the first limb in the easy bake.
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That Candy has a sweet face, anybody would be a sucker for her! Dog like that will keep you in shape.
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Bun one is quietly napping at 165°.
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Stained and sealed a dozen spruce woodies yesterday.
Charcoal gray alcohol based aniline dye.
3 coats of gasket lacquer through a dipper.
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Next time your wife does the laundry she will find out and you are in trouble. I know because I stole 20 pins. ;)
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Drove around a couple sections this morn , saw 56 deer and a yote. Slow morning... :goldtooth:
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Drove around a couple sections this morn , saw 56 deer and a yote. Slow morning... :goldtooth:
Wow I can honestly say I haven’t seen 56 deer in a drive in years. Not sure I’ve even seen that many in the last two months of hunting and driving. I must be doing something wrong. (Slow morn, :saywhat:)
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He prolly was driving around in a circle and counted them a couple times:)
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Nope, if I think I've seen em before (I do travel a mile of it twice) I don';t count them again... :)
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Cut and sanded some vineers, roughed out a couple risers and located and cleaned up my sleds.
This was actually what I did Tuesday the 1st. Just getting around to posting. My new year resolution was to make more bows in 2019. I only made two in 2018. New biz has been kicking my tale.
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Nice to see you back at it, David..
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And the first two don't count!!!
Get em Kenny. Im going after a big fat doe in the morning.
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This is round two with a longnecked wretch . Just had 17 turkeys go by at 30ish yds...
Good luck David!
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Renee kicked ya out?
Yer dating a squirrel?
A little mouse skeered ya?
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I see your using the lucky bow :goldtooth:
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Stained and sealed a dozen spruce woodies yesterday.
Charcoal gray alcohol based aniline dye.
3 coats of gasket lacquer through a dipper.
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How ya like using spruce. I switched over to Hemlock; was using Cedar and Doug Fir before and there is no looking back I think Hemlock rules. I get straighter shafts and half of the 28 I made close to same spine and they dont break as easy.
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Got the shafts from fujimo and they are really awesome.
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Right on all three Roy... -- … -... -- .. :laughing:
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When you said you got an ASAT leafy suit I thought it would be more than just a handkerchief.
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Didn’t have all of it on, forgot my headset so I used that one. Seems pretty bright colors. Gonna try it on the ground ...
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I have a jacket like that.
Gonna sell it now.................
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Give ya $10 shipped...
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I’ll give ya $10 and come pick it up :bigsmyl:
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Put tip overlays on, I hope to get sanded tommorow and string grooves cut. Then spray monday. Also have another youth bow in the oven slow baking.
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Popped another out of the form & cleaned it up this morning & Sous vide cooking some 2" thick prime NY steaks going to sear them with the heat gun when done medium rare !
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Just ordered some Glass from some guy called Kenny... Hope it's the good stuff... :pray: :goldtooth:
FH... Is that the carbon one?? Looking forward to seeing what changes in performance it makes... Or was it .030" glass that you were using??
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Its a 60 in. Carbon under .040 glass got a good vibe on this one , I got to give ol Kenny a call here for glass to soon !
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kenny, i swear by the asat suits, i have been using mine for nigh on 12 years now, with great success. the older it gets the better it works- unlike me of course :bigsmyl:
i have used it in the thorn scrub of south africa a lot, also in the grass lands of Alberta and the brush and scrub of the foothills of the Rockies, and now out here in the bright green temperate rain forest of the PNW coast.
i am sure a ghillie suit might be the only thing better- but they are hot, heavy and stinky.
you just need to wash the asats 4 or 5 times before you use them, take some of that bright colour out, and soften and quieten them a bit- although they are already quiet as it is.
i always chuckle at all the green camo's as its not the colours that matter, but rather the patterns and the tones, with my asat suit on( grey/ beige/brown) i have had a small hawk land on my head while ground hunting in a mass of bright green coniferous foliage here in the PNW.
its quite incredible gear really.
shafts are looking great Roy :wavey:
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That sounds great Wayne. A little warm but I’m trying it where I killed the buck a week or so ago this eve...
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This will be my this years donation to KTBA Tyler shoot. All the proceeds go to the KY. high school archery program. Chances will be available at the KY. Tradfest and up until the shoot in Aug. of this year. I got the riser block glued up and veneers ready to grind.
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That's really cool Mike , where ya get the block ? What is it ? :thumbsup:
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Dang that is sharp, Mike..
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I went to a local lumber guy and told him I need some hard maple. I got this slab and could see the ambrosia but ruff sawn the stripes did not show. I sliced it in 4 inch wide pieces for drying and seen the stripes. After air drying I stabilized it with cactus juice and blue dye. I have more of this but not stabilized yet. Maple takes enough juice on that it does not float and about doubles the weight. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] This one is mine.
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Maple is so pretty...
Very nice, Mike..
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If that had been pink, Ole Kenny would of scarfed it up:)
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Hey , pink is great!! :bigsmyl:
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I consider completely finished yesterday, I have been shooting it and for a newbie like me it shoots good ( I can keep almost all 6-8 arrows in a clay pigeon at 15 yards when I am concentrating). It is 58lbs at 28", it has purple heart tip overlays, lavender die colored leather grip, I stitched it open on the front. The brace appears best aboout 6-1/4" -6-3/8". The actual grip of the riser is a bit big, but I will see if I reconfigure later. It is a hard maple, purple heart, walnut riser. The limbs go black glass, maple, boo, osage tapers and clear. This is my first laminate build and only my second bow build. Thanks for all the help guys and gals, especially Kenny. Roy I am sorry I did not take your advice and go all pink. :goldtooth:
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Good looking bow and gal you got there ,I dont think she releases yet about your addication but she will know soon enough :laughing:
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Good thing ya didn't pink it up or else ole Kenny would be driving up there to get it off ya:)
Not too shabby for your first bow.
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And sounds like good shooting too..
You posted a thumbnail picture, which is fine.
After you select your picture from your PC or phone, just to the right of the little window where the picture name appears, click ( Insert Attachment 1 ). That will make the picture full size in your post.
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Thanks Roy and I will try to remember to do next time with pics. My wife is truly a saint, I am a hardcore hunter, even more hardcore predator trapper before numbers and prices crashed, now this. BUT May-September I am solely hers and the boys. I incorporate the boys in alot of my hobbies. Life is good!
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Got home early today and decided to lay out the maple core for a composite LB with water buffolo belly, sinew back had this pristine stave in side for 2 years cutting out the front view and thining the last 7 in to 5/8 x 9/16 before steam bending the hooks & making a suprise dinner of pork blade roast with crainberry apple glaze sause , wild rice & asparagus for the wife, got the recepe from Roy :laughing:
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Good deal with the kids, Gary..
Get them and momma shooting stickbows too....
Well Chef Ritchie..
I just put together a fresh green bean casserole with fresh mushrooms and cream of mushroom soup and a dash of soy sauce garnished with fried onions and black pepper.
So top that son:)
Then there's ole timer Kenny gonna have fresh backstraps in the smoker tonight.
Think we need to make a road trip to see his shop:)
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I have been working on my limbs a bit. I am a bit concerned about the tips, they will be slightly over 3/8" at the nock. Is that too narrow or can I get by with it? I may end up piking them anyway, once I got bolted on the riser my length measurements got wonky some where. I may end up with a 61" bow instead of 60", I'll have to stare at it later and see if I can figure out what I did.
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Yea but mine is organic Paleo & gluten free :) I wish I still had a smoker sounds delicious , doing a venison leg roast this week end sous vide yum wraped in bacon and garlic , Skeats looking forward to seeing that one when you get it straitened out !
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Lonnie it should be fine...
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Fixin to cut a brand new bow in half..... :scared:
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Fixin to cut a brand new bow in half..... :scared:
Takin' up the slight of hand arts Kenny?
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Fixin to cut a brand new bow in half....
Been there done that:)
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This one will hopefully fit back together if I can get it apart...
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ya fixin to do the sleeve wrap?? One thing about them ifin they dont come apart you still have a one piece :bigsmyl:
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YUP !! :o
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Didn't happen wifout pichers.....
Chust sayen...
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They are kinda slopy when you wrap them maybe a big piece of card board on the floor.
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Thought that would be in order..
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And put a little pink dye in your resin then if it dont come apart you can say someone else was involved also
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Seriously tho, have you dyed the resin? And if so with what?
won't be pink tho….
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Yes I have dyed it. With Trans Tint from Woodcrafters. Big Jim sells a powder to. Never tried it but am bettin Rit would work. Use it to stain lams a lot.
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Hey Mike so smooth on is good with Rit dyed lams ?
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Yes with denatured alcohol and let them dry overnite.
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You want the aniline dye that is alcohol soluble, not water soluble!
Water raises the grain, alcohol doesn't and it dries in about 10 seconds and can be blended in very easily.
Woodworker carries the aniline dye.
Give the link below about 15 seconds to load.
https://woodworker.com/alcohol-soluble-brt-yellow-golden-oak-aniline-dye-mssu-845-541.asp?search=aniline%20dye&searchmode=2
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Ok good deal got some Ideas down the line Thanks !
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I wonder if you could get it to do a camo pattern ? Working the first real storm ⛈ in Chicago we have had so far wish I was home bow making :biglaugh:
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I have done camo of sorts by blotting aboo with a sponge using three colors. We got about 3 in. here last nite :tongue:
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Forwardhandle, you running a plow or de-icer?
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Both , chloride slurry all the traffic helps to ! :laugh:
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Still snowin here , they say 3-5” more
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I can clear that in 2 passes I will just keep heading south :goldtooth:
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You kin go twack ah deer now:)
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Just started here couple hours ago. Saying 2-4”. Not as much as I was hopin for, but I’ll take it.
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Wife's dog got high centered on porch, had to hook mine up to pull her back to house... :laughing:
Brad, wish I could send you half of ours!!
And Ritchie, you better head more west than south!! :thumbsup:
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Wife's dog got high centered on porch, had to hook mine up to pull her back to house... :laughing:
Brad, wish I could send you half of ours!!
I had to read that a couple times to fully understand (sometimes I’m a little slow)
Then I got a mental pic of how dogs normally get “hooked up” :biglaugh:
And I’d love a few more inches to do some spot and stalk hunting with the snow camo.
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Nice here so we went to a 3D shoot.
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Nice here so we went to a 3D shoot.
I’m calling BS on that one :laughing:
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I would never spread BS.
Just ask Kenny!
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I agree, you don’t spread BS.
You tend to dump it in HUGE piles :laughing:
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Still laughing over the hooked up dogs!
Roy don’t start nuthin... ...
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Nope, not touching dog possibilities:)
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I got my Cactus Juice today and fixin to stabilize some riser material.
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You go, Lonnie..
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Whatcha Stabling, Skeats???
Got a bow partly finish sanded today... 42# - 410gr. - 186fps - 28"... Also shot a 3" group with 6 out of 8 arrows at 20yds with it... Seems to be a good shooter...
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Spalted Maple. I have been sitting on it for a while and finally got around to buying some resin.
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Maybe try a little pigment in it...
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"I have been sitting on it for a while"
That may have stained it... :laughing:
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Kin tell you guys are snowed in. Now yer trying to snow the rest of us. :)
Got about four inches of wet snow through the night. That's the most so far for my locality but the mountains are getting a lot this year.
Denver is the new Phoenix. :saywhat:
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"I have been sitting on it for a while"
That may have stained it... :laughing:
LMAO
Shreddy said pigment, not ********:)
Just back from granddaughters birthday party, nice 2 hour drive in the snow at night....
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Just back from granddaughters birthday party, nice 2 hour drive in the snow at night....
Storm must’ve blew in quick. Y’all were shooting in shorts and T-shirt’s this mornin :dunno: :laughing:
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Yup...
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Well I had a piece of rough cut cypress laying around so I thought I’d build a display for my turkey beards. Ran out of cypress just short of a door! :banghead:
One more door, the back and two pieces of glass for the doors and it’ll be done.
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Very nice I like it :thumbsup:
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Cooked some burgers and steaks on the grill while watching my 4 year old sling some arrows this evening.
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Gotta start them young Roy!
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Too cold in the shop. I scaled these blades a couple months ago and im making sheaths for them.
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These look more like fish than sheaths but they're getting there.
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I finally got the limbs profiled, the riser pads cut and hardware mounted. The bow is coming in about 6-8lbs more than I wanted (approx. 50lbs and was hoping for 42-45). I am not unhappy with the tiller but at the same time I feel the mid limbs could be working a bit more. Thoughts?
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Looks real nice, Lonnie.
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Looks good to me Skeats :thumbsup:
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Thank you fellas.
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Got my glass bow all done.
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Looks good, look at the whole bow and not just one limb.
If you need to lose weight ( bow) and want more bend midlimb trap it in the midlimb and feather it out to both fades and tips ...
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Nice Roy!! , you cast that riser too?
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Nope, that's my old 1993 Martin Pantera compound riser.
A machinist buddy warfed it to accept ILF limbs.
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Bet it’s a shooter!
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Shore nuff is:)
Purty too...
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Looks good, look at the whole bow and not just one limb.
If you need to lose weight ( bow) and want more bend midlimb trap it in the midlimb and feather it out to both fades and tips ...
Thanks Kenny. I will trust the collective knowledge on the tiller but will give trapping a try. I have never done that nor read much about it so any tips or instruction is most welcome.
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Study your limbs at full draw and see where YOU want the more bend to be. Taper trapping away from where where you want the bend back to a rectangular limb. I generally mark 1/8" in from edge and take that off being sure to not make a sharp edge on other side of limb, that will ding easier. So I leave the glass and a bit of wood lam still square to face on the narrow side. When you round the glass you will get close to the wood lam anyway.
I made a jig for my disc sander to get started but it is easy to get too deep. I would use a light rasp and files then a sanding block to do the first one or two.
Keep these pics and overlay the new ones on them if you are techy enough to see the change and plan the next one...
Or send it to Roy and tell him what you want, he likes sniffin glass. :biglaugh:
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I am guessing to leave the bend the same I just trap the entire length of the limb?
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Yep, I stay off the tips a little because I trap the back and don't want in the nock grooves. I stay off the fades a bit cause I don't like a bow that bends hard right off the fades... :)
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Got my glass bow all done.
Looks beautiful. Ya got any specs. Hopefully it wont give ya any shock. I hear some custom bows twang worse than an old untuned guitar. :o
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Nice Roy!! , you cast that riser too?
Do you do metal casting, Roy??
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Damn Lonnie... Whatcha got going on there?? Looks pretty cool... Love to see a DFC on that sucker...
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That's the riser from my old compound, Shreddy.
It was too sharp to be hanging in the basement collecting dust.
A buddy converted it into an ILF rig in his machine shop.
I put 31# limbs on it for a 3D bow.
I'm getting too old for heavier weight bows.
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Damn Lonnie... Whatcha got going on there?? Looks pretty cool... Love to see a DFC on that sucker...
Dang Rich, why did you go and say that, now I get.... errrrr, have to build a hooter shooter so I can make a chart. :goldtooth:
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Oh... I have done a little sand casting and I entertain the idea of casting a riser...
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Damn Lonnie... Whatcha got going on there?? Looks pretty cool... Love to see a DFC on that sucker...
Dang Rich, why did you go and say that, now I get.... errrrr, have to build a hooter shooter so I can make a chart. :goldtooth:
With performance comes responsiblity... ;) :laugh: :laugh:
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Lesson for today, if you don't want a 2x4 pine riser make sure you put enough tape not to glue your support to your bow... :knothead:
Finally got it pried off and cleaned up
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That's different!
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Don't get any i-deers Roy, it's IPE !
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So that's why I started itchen up a little bit ago?:)
Ya ever think about gluing 3 or 4 full length thinner belly lams together to get that bend ya want at the riser?
Ya could do away with the splice all together...
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So that's why I started itchen up a little bit ago?:)
LOL. Just messing with ya. I only work with the stuff outside now after hearing what it did to you.
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LOL
There will never be IPE in my shop again.
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So that's why I started itchen up a little bit ago?:)
Ya ever think about gluing 3 or 4 full length thinner belly lams together to get that bend ya want at the riser?
Ya could do away with the splice all together...
Yeah, I have thought about doing that exact thing quite a bit. But I'm not setup to taper a full length piece.
And I would probably need 4 lams with ipe as it doesn't bend even at thin dimensions.
And that splice doesn't take much time. It looks more complicated than it is.
You think the lams would bend enough to give me this much deflex?
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Yes and the arc / bend would be a really smooth transition.
1/8th thick lams would bend really well, even 3/16th thick I'd bet.
Two thicker lams here bend decent and that's not much bend.
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I'm liking your angular design there Ben ! :thumbsup:
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Whatcha got going on there Ben... I have been entertaining the idea of having some small recurves at the tips...
Stuff is going on around here... Got some lights so that I don't have to wait on the sun to get right...
Modified my thickness sander... It does not have a feed belt and the friction was an issue with lams on a sled... The sled would stop and the lams would slide... So I installed some rollers under the feed rollers and shortened my granite table to just under the drum... Added some table extensions made out of plywood... Seems to work great... What a pain in the a$$ though... Everything has to line up just right...
I swear... I think I spend more time making jigs, modifying and tweaking tools than building bows...
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Finished a recurve form, glued up a riser blank, milled all the lams and scarfed together . May glue a bow tomorrow pm
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Shreddy that's a dumb sander if I ever seen one.
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Sat in the rain waiting on deer. So far our “blizzard” is a bust. Rain rain and more rain.
Three more weeks(or a buck on the ground) before I think about starting a bow.
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Shredd, is that a homemade thickness sander?
I have been thinking of building one. But thinking of having the drum do the traveling and the table be adjustable. Then I could have an infinit amount of adjustment in taper. I just haven’t come up with a durable/reliable/affordable track system.
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Geez thanks Roy... :laughing:
I will put this sander up against any sander out there for consistency and accuracy... Being there is no belt it operates like a bench planer... The wood rides between a solid granite table and the drum... A belt can have inconsistencies... Some guys wonder why their bows are 5# over or under weight... Inconsistencies along the laminations could be one of the factors why they are missing their mark... Especially when you are reading the butt of your lam and the middle of your lam is 3-5 thou off its begins to add up...
Bvas... This is an older Wood Master sander... You can make one but it would be a lot easier and probably cheaper in the long run to buy one...
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Hey Bvas... Do you have an Edge Sander?? Because if you do, you can make a jig to sand laminations...
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No Shredd. I’m tool poor.
I have a drill press that I use as a spindle and a hand held belt sander. These get me by. But as I build more bows, I want more toys. :biglaugh:
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Can you use taper sleds thru it? Mine has a feed belt and stiffness of the sleds seems to get rid of incosistencies
. I kinda like to check my lams from one end to the other to just to be sure.
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Good point Stic... Yes I can run sleds through it... That's why I did the modification...
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Bvas... Look for a used Harbor Freight 6 x 48 sander and turn it on it's side... Works great...
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Damn Lonnie... Whatcha got going on there?? Looks pretty cool... Love to see a DFC on that sucker...
Here is the DFC, to the best of my understanding on how to do it. Just measure draw weight at each interval and chart it? I didn't go past 30" because I didn't like the string angle and I was skeered.
Now maybe someone can explain why we do this?
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Now maybe someone can explain why we do this?
I think to look professional?
I duno:)
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It got a rise there on the bottom end and kinda smooths out then starts picking back up around 28 in. Thats good. Ya do it to check how smooth it is.and Bottom end loading is good for performance. If the string angle was getting close to 90 % then she was gonna start stacking. Tip wedges would help that. I am not up on the stored energy part of it though.
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No complaints on speed. Off the draw board I put three shots with a 498 grain arrow at 28"@50.5 lbs. I got a 176, 176 and 174.
The next set of limbs I have planned to try tip wedges and see what that does.
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Nice DFC and good numbers. Looking forward to seeing it with tip wedges.
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What a Steal.... Craftsman 10" saw... 10 quick clamps and a self centering dowel jig... All for $90... :shaka:
I should be in jail... :goldtooth:
That 10" saw is a solid saw... Great for cutting out risers...
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I guess it's ok..
Better than that dumb sander...
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Been working on a new bow, third one ever and went fancy with some recurve. Thoroughly regretting flipping the tips so early as I've no clue how to tiller it now. Advice? It's at 24" 28lbs. 58" osage selfbow. I'm shooting for 40-50lbs at 30 but well aware that at this point I'll probably need to cut off an inch or two to get that.
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Tiller actually looks very nice.
But I see the edges of the limbs are square.
Get those edges rounded over before tillering.
Rasp facets in then sand a bit.
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Heard some notsonice crackling when I pulled it back a bit more. Hopefully rounding the edges a bit like you suggest will help a bit. If not, I got some firewood at least.
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Take a cotton ball and run it up and down the limbs and see if any splinters snag it.
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Take a cotton ball and run it up and down the limbs and see if any splinters snag it.
Roy and cotton balls! Why does that seem like a natural fit? :)
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LOL now yer gonna get those 2 old Missouri and Indiana guys all excited.
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A lot of good bow work going on here none for me playing with the Chicago ice my 70 yr old plow partner wasnt as fortunate I avoided it & he walked away without a scratch we both went to waly world for new shorts :o :cheesy:
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Glad you guys are ok, Ritchie..
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Uh oh, shorts are off the highway....
Good to hear that everyone is well.
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Rich, that saw is worth $80 so I'll give ya $10 for the clamps and you can keep the dowel jig as profit.... :biglaugh:
Roy, what 2 MO guys? Thought I was the only one... :)
Ritchie, were both you guys in the truck? Man , glad you're OK , you can get new shorts!! Snow ain't bad but ice is miserable to drive/slide on!! :o
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Nope I was not in his truck , I was in my own truck he is lucky for sure me 2 going play the lotery this week end :cheesy: we had 9 tons of salt on both trucks he says he thinks he is retiring this year...lol
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Ouch! Guess even plows can loose traction. Looks like he slid out on that 90 degree corner.
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That's a pretty small work area, but I can see where it would heat up quick :banghead: :bigsmyl:
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Is that a Momma Bear. I've been heating with one for over 40 years. Great wood stoves.
A1, tiller looks good. Make the right limb the bottom. It's a bit stiffer than the left. You tiller recurves just like any other bow.
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That's a pretty small work area, but I can see where it would heat up quick :banghead: :bigsmyl:
Been working cold for too long, wanted a sauna like experience :biglaugh:
Pat, that is a Momma Bear and your right it is a great stove.
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While waiting for some epoxy to set and some finish to dry I was looking for something to keep me from having to clean up my area and it hit me, I built a draw board to make a DFC, so let's do it for another bow. This one is the KennyM design that I built. With the new bow scale I found out it's actually pulling 3 lbs more than I originally thought. Man do I feel strong now :readit: I stopped at 31" when I noticed the arrow (on there for a safety catch) was about to fall off the back side of the shelf.
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Now I know where to get some free rock salt... Wait I live in Florida... We only need sun tan lotion... :)
Glad you guys are alright...
Roy You better quit picking on my Sander Or I will have to come up there and send one of your bows through it and make sawdust out of it... :biglaugh:
Yeah Kenny... Them clamps were a deal at about $3 a piece...
Skeats... What is the brace height on that bow??? If it is about 7 " You should get a reading at 9" of draw for your DFC... It would show more of the bottom end of the curve...
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Looks good Lonnie! Which design? :thumbsup:
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The 62" original. I wish I had done the modified but I didn't know any better.
Brace is about 6-3/4" if I recall correctly.
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Flem You will be more motivated with the heat makes it much easier I have 2 , 220v barn heaters in my shop usually work in a T shirt in winter ! Lonnie you been busy lately ,Shreedy I know where you can get all you want bring a shovel :cheesy:
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chased a ring on an osage stave I've had laying around the shop.
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Thats sweet I wish I Had that laying around my shop.
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Looks like a fun project. Nice stave with nice rings and plenty of character. Looking forward to your progress. :thumbsup:
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Awesome stave...
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Nice rings an stave.
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I shot under a monster eight point :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Ah crap, sorry dude.
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If that's him he is a good'n.
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Dang it!!
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If that's him he is a good'n.
Yea. That’s him. I believe he is 6.5 or 7.5 years old. Has tremendous mass.
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Thats one nice looking 4 point, regionally speaking of course. :biglaugh:
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Put underlays on the hooker , hoping to keep some string control without cutting too deep a groove in the glass. Tapered them .001 per inch with the thick end toward tips. .070 at thick end , then feathered the other end last 1/2" or so.
If you draw by hand, it is hard to not torque the limbs when letting down. Still haven't shot her, but checked weight at 43. 34 @ 28"
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Starting to sound like it may benefit from a longer riser. :dunno:
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I like that part but I think the hooks need reshaped or something . I’m just gonna send it to pa maybe
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Send it, always wanted to grind on a glass bow:)
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Bvas sorry to see about that miss. Nice animal.
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Been working on this KTBA Tyler Roberts bow. Bacote veneers and blue stable maple with a little ambrosia burl. Came out 41@28 62 in. ready for top coats.
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Sweet..
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I glued up a one piece that I have been tinkering with, it's the virgin run for a new form I made. The dry run looked pretty good except for one spot, but some shims took care of that. It's too bad I focused so hard on that area that I didn't see the gap on back of the bow. There was no light shining on the dry run so I am in hopes when I shave this down to 1.25" that gap will go away. :pray:
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If that is full of glue it will just look ugly but proly be ok.
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Heading to the Kalamazoo expo in a couple hours. Getting some supplies for bow swap and hope to find a bow for my daughter. Will be a good bonding day for us. Hope everyone survives the polar vortex this week.
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Have fun, Cody.
I gotta cut and split some more wood today for the wood burner:)
Don't like the -2 forecast, but it will prolly be a lot colder than that up your way..
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I woke up this morning to a deflated air hose in the form, I guess I will have to check my plugs. The good news is, in spite of my screw ups and the air hose, with narrowing the bow to 1.25" (which is my target anyway) the glue lines went from total humiliation to just an embarrassment.
No matter, the bow is really just a test of the form anyway and so far I am please with it. I am going to re-do the riser plan for future, which may change the form over to topless, not sure on that yet.
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Doesn't look bad, Lonnie.
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"I gotta cut and split some more wood today for the wood burner:)"
So you're workin on a bow today? :laughing: :laughing:
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Ya know somepin McKenzie, Ya better hope I don't get your name in the bow swap...
Just bought some pink paint yesterday, just incase I do:)
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"I gotta cut and split some more wood today for the wood burner:)"
So you're workin on a bow today? :laughing: :laughing:
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Doesn't look bad, Lonnie.
Thank you sir.
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"I gotta cut and split some more wood today for the wood burner:)"
So you're workin on a bow today? :laughing: :laughing:
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Yunzs are all smarty pants today..
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Never pass a chance!! :biglaugh:
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I thought it was never pass a bathroom?
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That's considered a chance!
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I'm sure both are true but Roy wouldn't dare tee-up for another shot like that :laughing: :laughing:
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This could be for someone, but don't know who yet..
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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And the firewood smarty pants:)
Nice dry Oak...
Can't beat that pile for $10.00's....
And there's more covered up behind the split wood.
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More like 'Firebark'... :laughing:
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Better than a dumb shoemaker sander that chokes on poplar wood:)
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Good one Kenny :shaka: He was in bow shop today. Lol
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"I gotta cut and split some more wood today for the wood burner:)"
So you're workin on a bow today? :laughing: :laughing:
LMAO. :)
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Better watch Mike ure going 2 get on that list of Roy's.
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Hell, I would love to have that pile of "firebark" All I have here is Pine.
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Better than a dumb shoemaker sander that chokes on poplar wood:)
Watch out now... Ol' Bessy,'s got a temper... She's contemplating on coming up there and tillering one of your bows for you, and it aint gonna be pretty... :laughing:
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I understand that Shreddy, ole bessy hasn't done your bows any favors.
Now I see why you go by Shred.
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It’s looking like you guys have been busy. I had my whole day planned out but didn’t make any of it. Busted butt yesterday building a limb and a riser for a new bow. Had planned on building the other limb today and bolting them on tomorrow. But instead was up all night with the flu. It really put a damper on bow building.
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Got some base coats on this riser. 7 here today and tomorrow. Then 50-60 for the weekend. I call it body shock
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Looking good that riser.
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Nice Mike, whad ya put on it?
9 here and windy....
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Bloodwood. :banghead: pieces 2x3 that have been drying in my heated shop for ten years. When I cut them up and plane and joint them in 2x1 sizes they bend and twist. Still tension in the wood after so many years. :banghead:
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Roy that is gloss Buff hide from Jim. It will get the 320 grit then one wet coat and a few matte coats of Krystal dull. top coats.
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Bue I have found bloodwood to be fairly stable.
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Ok Mike.
Bue I cut a 2 x 2 piece of maple last week that has been in my dry shop for 6 years.
As I was cutting it, water was running out the end.
Craziest thing I ever seen.
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-21 and windy
bought a bandsaw blade and organizing the shop
looking for a solid circle jig for risers on the bandsaw
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Holy crap Josh I would die there.
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-24 deg & 30 mph winds here this morning for the Chicago rescue crew ! Crazy cold !
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- 49 here and....no wait, that's 49 days til spring!! Bring it, if it ain't bow season it just as well be 70*
At least my bro is happy, he loves him some ice fishin...
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Roy that musta been Water Maple :laughing: :laughing:
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-24 deg & 30 mph winds here this morning for the Chicago rescue crew ! Crazy cold !
Thanks to you all :thumbsup:
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That's a motley looking crew..
Surprised there hain't no chicago chili dog juice running down their chins:)
Be safe out there Ritchie..
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Mötley or not we had a lot of happy customers today :bigsmyl: and more tomorrow , I'm more in the mood for some chili relleno :tongue:
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I finished a bow form to go to CO and started a bow blank going to WA.
Stayed in shop, it got up to -3 today!!
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I stayed in the house and kept the wood burner fired up.
1 degree here and supposed to go lower.
I'd rather have 2 feet of snow and 32 degrees than these 1 degree temps.
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Staying around 6 tonite And a warm up to 25 tomorrow and slow rise tomorrow nite up into 50 for the weekend. CRAZY :o
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Got the limbs in to warm up today.
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50 deg and sunny here...yet there's an odd bite to the wind???
When does the big rodent make it's advisory?
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Lookin REAL sharp Mike :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Nice Mike.
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50 deg and sunny here...yet there's an odd bite to the wind???
When does the big rodent make it's advisory?
There's always 6 more weeks of winter no matter what the pig says... LOL Feb 2 is his big day.
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Yesterday our day started at -29 and warmed to a balmy temp of -17. Wind chills of up to -60.
Temp at this time is -30 but high of 0 later, much less wind. Had to replace my wife's car battery outside lastnight, just starting to feel my fingers again.
I complain but then watch the news and feel fortunate to live in Southern Minnesota, our northwest part of the state was much colder. Our forcast for this weekend is 40s with some rain.
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You can have that, Bill.
It's zero here and I don't like it:)
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Thats a sweet looking bow you got there Mike love the blue !
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Well yesterday (January 30th) our flock was completed with the birth of my baby daughter Elsie Ann...
She was brought into this world to join her sister and brother at 4:47pm weighing in at a mighty 8lbs 2oz and 20”.
I tried like hell posting a picture last night but for whatever reason it’s not allowing me. Everyone is doing great (except for dad, they make dads sleep on a medieval torcher rack, but I’m not allowed to complain :biglaugh: I think it’s payback)
Now I just gotta figure out how to get these girls to hunt! :pray:
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Congrats..
If you took the pictures with a cell phone, most likely the phones camera is set to take huge pictures, and they time out loading here.
Go into the camera settings and choose a much lower picture size and that should work for ya.
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That is awesome Greg, I am happy for you and your family. Congratulations!!!!!
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Congrats Greg :thumbsup:
and welcome to zone defense :help:
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Two girls. Not gonna be economical! :)
Congratulations!
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I froze my arse off in a tree stand.
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kept my arse warm and put a new brain in the easy bake
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Put my arse in the shop and didn’t let it out!!
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Ripped a 2 by 1 by 68 “ piece of ipe to 1/8 With table saw. Going to flatten more on a belt sander and attempt to fix an under weight Bamboo backed Osage I made a while back by gluing it on the belly and up the risers.
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I still have some work to do on the finish but I figured it was close enough to post a pic or two.
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Very nice, Lonnie.
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Thanks Roy.
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Looking good and nice offset I-beam, the way it should be.
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Looking good and nice offset I-beam, the way it should be.
Thanks.
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Nice work Lonnie!! :thumbsup:
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Looking good there Brudder...
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Looking good and nice offset I-beam, the way it should be.
Oh! I figured it got out of whack when he glued it up using an old car bumper for a pressure plate. :)
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Looking good and nice offset I-beam, the way it should be.
Oh! I figured it got out of whack when he glued it up using an old car bumper for a pressure plate. :)
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looks good skeater
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Like those limb butt overlays. That car had some steel in it.
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I still have some work to do on the finish but I figured it was close enough to post a pic or two.
Nice good looking stick.
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Sharp looking stick Lonnie.
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I aspire to build one of those take em down bows someday. Just like that except the I beam where it belongs.
Don't go building any railroad tressels Skeat. :)
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Looks great there Lonnie :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Great Work Lonnie !
Got me thinkin of a use for some cocobolo
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I modified my P.O.S. bandsaw. It only had 6" of resaw capacity, which was fine most of the time.
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Dang Lig, you have more ambition than I do. About 4-5 inches is all I typically resaw and try not to go that much.
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Dang Lig, you have more ambition than I do. About 4-5 inches is all I typically resaw and try not to go that much.
Me too, but I have some small logs and slabs that need a bit more height.
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Nice mod the extra size bed is as much of a plus as the the extra re saw height in my book :thumbsup:
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squared up the bandsaw and sander. Made ASL riser template. Thinkin about this cherry / yellowheart I-beam for the riser.
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squared up the bandsaw and sander. Made ASL riser template. Thinkin about this cherry / yellowheart I-beam for the riser.
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Thats a nice looking combo for sure.
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What the heck is going on?
-5 degrees a few days ago and now it 68 degrees here.
Have the windows open letting the fresh air flow through..
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I hear ya Roy. But I’m not complaining. Other than rain, supposed to be decent all week. Then the bottom falls out this weekend again.
Deer season is over, bring on the warm weather :laughing:
Now I need to get to figuring what I need for bow builds so I can get an order in to Kenny
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Ha 53 here this morn , 2 hours later it was 16 where I was...
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Got some limbs put on her today. Missed weight by a 1 1/2 pretty please with it.
It’s all macasser ebony and black phenolic. Got a lot of sanding to do along with limb tips.
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Nice, Mike.
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Sweet!! :thumbsup:
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Me like Mac Ebony :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Nice work being done all around.
BrushWolf is that some kind of Carbon laminate on the back of the limbs without any glass?
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Nice Kenny. I wish I had room to do that but my saw is on wheels so SWMBO can park in the garage.
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Nice Kenny. I wish I had room to do that but my saw is on wheels so SWMBO can park in the garage.
:biglaugh: I had to look that one up.
I know the feeling. I built a 3.5 car garage and the wife’s car is the only one in it.
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Ole Timer, yer gonna need noculars to see the other end:)
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I decided I do not need a bigger workspace...I just need a friend with a bigger work space and equipment. :pray:
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Nice work being done all around.
BrushWolf is that some kind of Carbon laminate on the back of the limbs without any glass?
Sure is.
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Looking like your ready to pump out the forms now. Kenny
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Second one this week , Roy the cutting is on my end not out there... lol
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Looks good there Kenny I like a big bed on a bandsaw makes a big difference on long stuff once you got one you will never go back !
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Roy the cutting is on my end not out there...
Well excuse me all the way to the end of the Mongolian Tulip Patch...
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Did ja drill those holes in the guide plate ole boy?
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Did ja drill those holes in the guide plate ole boy?
Nope factory... You fletch that crooked arra??
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Did ja drill those holes in the guide plate ole boy?
Nope factory... You fletch that crooked arra??
That is a representation of paradox.
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Did ja drill those holes in the guide plate ole boy?
Nope factory... You fletch that crooked arra??
:). Did the factory have to remind you to tension the blade too?
Sorry Kenny, I'm back on team Roy after the witch face incident. :laugh:
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Dats a flu-flew arra son...
I's ah wunderen, as short as ya is, hows ya gonna reach cross all dat plywood?
Ya gots yerself one of dem little frilly pink steppy stools didn't yah?
You tell him, Mr. Ben...
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"That is a representation of paradox"
Seems to be a lot of that around here. ;)
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May have to get a pink whippin stick!! :laughing:
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Bring it on big boy:)
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I thought that arrow was for shooting around corners.😜
Dave.
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I’m using it for a walk-in stick on this ice right now. Get back to ya in spring... :laughing:
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Workshop this morning after two hours of moving snow. Started at seven so my better half could get out to work. More snow to come to night, if this keep coming I’ll be seeing you all in June. That global warming must have missed our small lot.
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Workshop this morning after two hours of moving snow. Started at seven so my better half could get out to work. More snow to come to night, if this keep coming I’ll be seeing you all in June. That global warming must have missed our small lot.
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Bue I envy your shop and your snow (yeah, I said it). It seems that here in Missouri we get cold, ice and a teaser of snow occasionally, but we really don't get good snows anymore.
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Lonnie, you should be up this way, a couple weeks back we had about 20" snow in around 10 days. Then we had 2 good days and it melted and flooded a bunch, now about 3/8" of ice on everything.
I'll take some warm weather now please!! :biglaugh:
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Milling some Southern Red Cedar... Curious as to what kind of veneers I will get out of this...
Sure smells good around here...
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Lonnie, you should be up this way, a couple weeks back we had about 20" snow in around 10 days. Then we had 2 good days and it melted and flooded a bunch, now about 3/8" of ice on everything.
I'll take some warm weather now please!! :biglaugh:
We had a good snow but it was only about 6-8" and as you said, gone in a couple of days.
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Buddy's 68 inch trilam out of form. He has a 31" draw.
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Milling some Southern Red Cedar... Curious as to what kind of veneers I will get out of this...
Sure smells good around here...
Thats some pretty wood you got there, Shredd
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Osage billets Z spliced.
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Finished this one the other day, just needs stained and sealed.
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No hard feelings old timer............ but I think there's a tad too much curve in the belly. Try 60 or 70 grit
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Roy, as much as I enjoy giving you grief.....you build a nice looking bow :thumbsup:
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goober you got the arrow color right. :bigsmyl:
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Where can I git me some of that 70 grit?? :)
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Nice looking bow Roy. We who have a few years on our backs are allowed a small curve above the belt, I have one. :)
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Thanks guys, you too boobersan.
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Finished this one the other day, just needs stained and sealed.
I'm trying to figure out whats on the shelf thats pissing you off :o
Other than that, your bow has a beautiful profile, a guy could become infatuated with a Bow like that.
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I got a picture of goobersan on the shelf:)
Thanks Flem.
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That thing is bending very nice. Got a good string angle to. how far you drawing it there?
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27"
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I like that bend !
Go team Pink!
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Yep, you can tell an old buck by the saggy back and belly, don't ask how I know.... :laughing:
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How do you know?
:archer2: :dunno: :campfire:
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Told ya not to ask, but you could figger it out if you look that last pic over... :biglaugh:
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Told ya not to ask, but you could figger it out if you look that last pic over...
Ah the last picture? I see now:)
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I lost weight and shirt is too big... :laughing:
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Ya spect me ta beliveve dat?
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Nah... :biglaugh:
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That's a great looking NINJA bow Kenny! The birds will never know what hit 'em.
OkKeith
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Well this past weekend I got some laminations ground down, I also got some walnut tapers ground...thanks to a taper board I bought from Kenny. Everything is ready to be glued up this next weekend. The belly-->back goes like this:
clear glass
red grandis
bamboo
walnut taper
clear
Hope to have it come in around 40lbs
I am quite proud that 1/2 my tools are home made, and see to items made from them.
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Gary, the rule is, it didn't happen without pictures:)
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Will try to get u some tonight.
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here is one of my homemade spindle sander, nothing fancy, I was going to fancy it up but then it worked good and was at a good 90 deg. I decided not to mess with it.
Please bear with me having pic issues
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If you are taking the pictures with a cell phone, go into the camera setting and choose the lowest setting listed.
That should fix ya up.
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You can also send them to your email and resize/upload from there. That's what I typically do when i'm home
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You can also send them to your email and resize/upload from there. That's what I typically do when i'm home
I thought I did that I will have to piddle more with some of this.
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Cold and rainy, but I snuck out to sear some backstraps on the grill. Then brought them in and finished them up with some sautéed onions.
Then washed them down with a little home brew.
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Looks good Brad!!
I glued up a bocote/bocote with red elm core bow blank I need to get out. 64" modified. Gonna be nice...
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Looks great Bvas :thumbsup: :campfire:
Porter out stout ?
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I have made a lot of homebrew, I even liked one or two of them. The rest other people got to like. I decided making bows and knives was more my thing.
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Raspberry mead
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Now that looks yummy.
It was nasty outside for sure today but managed to get my new blind bow ready for finish.
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Raspberry mead
Your killin' me... Sounds Tasty...
A few years back I was too young to buy it so I figure I would make it... I made a few batches and about half were tasty and the rest tasted like crap... After a while i figured I would get straight to the point and skip the quality BS... I invented a direct method of achieving a potent and staggering result... I invented Chit Wine... A secret recipe of raisins, sugar, yeast and water... *After I got done stringing my bow... I would wait for a very cold winter day... I would take this fermented concoction of Chit Wine and put it in a beer keg with copper tubing coming from it and light a fire under it... I think you all know the rest of the story... That was some high octane chit...
* Had to put that in there so this post doesn't get taken off the forum... ;) :laugh:
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Rich, I was expecting an explosive ending. :)
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Hi there
Finally got around calibrating some proper super lams. Had to rebuild a sled all over again to get the tapper I was aiming for (0,005 and 0,003 at the other end ).
Everything going well I should be able to glue all this up this weekend.
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Sounds neat. Like to see how you build the sled.
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Lonnie, you should be up this way, a couple weeks back we had about 20" snow in around 10 days. Then we had 2 good days and it melted and flooded a bunch, now about 3/8" of ice on everything.
I'll take some warm weather now please!! :biglaugh:
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We had 22" in about 36 hours. :tongue: this is not a race to see who got more or when I just cant shovel due to health issues. I watch other family members shovel, feeling guilty.
Great meal by the way Bvas.
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Sounds neat. Like to see how you build the sled.
As I did like the first time but used two pieces of thicker marine plywood (15mm) 2” wide and I glued shims in between (thickness gauge) every 4” with cyano. I can post a picture later.
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Here are 2 pictures of the super lam sled
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I baked the current bow yesterday and am doing some cutting and profiling today, I will try to get some pics later. It is red grandis under clear glass and I can tell ya it is very pretty.
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Looking forward to the pics Garman... Cool looking sled you got there Tonz...
I am pushing the limits of my bow design today... I am working on the riser for a Target/3-D Reflex/Deflex bow... I am gonna make the limbs longer than my standard 64" ntn bow... Shooting for 66" to 68" ntn... The riser is 21" and tried to keep the ramps as short as possible for extra weight but hopefully will still fit in the form... (Having a topless form would be good right about now).. I am using Jatoba for the riser wood... Man that stuff is like working with a rock... Hard, Dense and Brittle... I am entertaining the idea of making some ornaments out of lead that can be screwed on to the back of the riser to add weight as stabilizers... Shooting to come in around 37# draw...
I guess the way to go would be to make a three piece take down to get a heavy riser...
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Cleaned shop and glued up another bow blank… :)
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It was such a nice warm 26 degree day today that I went to a 3D shoot at the club.
Made a trilam for a buddy and this is his first shot with it.
He wanted to see it before I stained and sealed it.
He loved it.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/rjNOCvAWtA0
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That is a sweet bow Roy, could make a fella jealous.
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Also met a fellow trad gang member for the first time.
He shot the bow too.
Scot50275, he goes by.
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Yep, even in someone else's hands it still looks good. :clapper:
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Foot fault.
That one has a beautiful profile, and I don't mean the dude drawing it!
Though I'm sure he's O.K.
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Looks nice Roy... How long is it ntn??
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62"
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Looks good Roy.
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Fun to shoot and silent!!!
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Hey Scot..
Good to see ya here.
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Got a package from Kenny today, Smooth On, Linen Micarta and two taper sleds.
Arrived safely, thanks. :)
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Nice, Bue.
You make rugs too?
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:dunno:
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My better half makes rugs on an Oppstad vev. It is a standing loom, the oldest form that we know, been in use for thousands of years.
Too complicated for me, I stick to wood.
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Looks pretty cool.
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Good deal Bue, I was wondering about that yesterday!
Rugs look way harder than bows to me!
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There was a gentleman that used to live across from my parents, he was 90+ years old, I would come home 2-3am in the morning from running my coon hounds and he would be up working on his loom I swear the guy never slept. He made grandfather clocks, rugs, candy, about anything you could dream of he did.
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There was a gentleman that used to live across from my parents, he was 90+ years old, I would come home 2-3am in the morning from running my coon hounds and he would be up working on his loom I swear the guy never slept. He made grandfather clocks, rugs, candy, about anything you could dream of he did.
Habits born from long winters no doubt.
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I am sure, I am sure! :bigsmyl:
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Hey Bue, have her make up a Pink rug..
Kenny's birthday is coming up and I wanna get him something he will use:)
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She will have plenty of time! :biglaugh:
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I stabilized a piece of Maple 17x3.5x1.5 let it soak for three days. When I lifted the weight it did not float. I cured it and got the excess stuff off I weighed it before and after. It gained 1.5 lb. The black dye just kinda colored it. Maybe needs doubled up on the dye.
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Cool beans, Mike.
Where ya get the scale with a smiley face?
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I got the scale at one of the big shoots. If I think about I still have the box can see what brand it is.
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I know..
I have the same one:)
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I have the happy scale too, got mine at Cabelas.
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I’m pretty sure that you can get them from Amazon. I have one too.
Dave.
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Would that scale retain the reading when you let off if used as a bow scale?
Ready to lose the luggage scale! :)
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If not a digital fish scale does.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GO2OWA6/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
got this one on amazon...it does indeed hold the measurement after a couple seconds of play time
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My Cabela's scale is black and has different buttons but I bet same guts... sposed to hold for a sec to get right weight.
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I bought mine here.
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/x-spot-digital-portable-hanging-bow-scale.html?cmp=cel&trigger=ac
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Got mine off the big auction site.
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Had Mrs. Santa bring me one...
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jwheel, I like the look of that one. Gonna check a few more out as well. I'm guessing all those smile face ones are the same?
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Here is what I got done last weekend
42lbs@28
65 1/2"
Whitetail antler tip overlays
Clear glass, red grandis, bamboo core, walnut taper, green glass
Riser is red grandis, Osage, black walnut
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Nice... :thumbsup:
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Where is the bow? ;)
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Where is the bow? ;)
No doubt alot of junk there.lol
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Got my sight window more narrow and got the riser back overlays glued up thanks to Kennys exspedited shipping got the material here by the week end !
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Got some blue wood. plans are for a two piece on this one
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Im liking that blue wood :thumbsup:
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I've been building a workbench the last few weeks. Got the sides of the drawers cut, routed, and fit up today. The top will be a 8' long chunk of bowling alley. It's going to weigh over 500 lbs when it's done, before I put the three vises on it :thumbsup:
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Looks very nice and solid, Jeff...
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Yeah, it's gonna be a beast.
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That will be a sweet bench!!
I made some angle cut pink lady spectra lams today !!
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I made some angle cut pink lady spectra lams today !!
Better not be the one coming here:)
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Nice Bench Junkie...
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Who is gonna move it around for ya, old man?
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Yeah maybe needs wheels on it. :bigsmyl:
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I already have heavy duty casters to put on it. :thumbsup: I want to be able to move it to the middle of the shop sometimes, and it will be the same height as the table saw so I can use it to support material being cut.
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Maybe a motor, tranny, and rear end would help too:)
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Hey I seen a motor in one of these threads and big ole pipe wrench you could adjust everything up with, :laughing: :bigsmyl:
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This bow had a rough life from the start but it's finally done(ish). I had to piece together scraps to get the riser. The accents are off center and you can clearly see a glue line where I added a block of wood to get it wide enough to make the riser. Then my assistant (who looks a LOT like me) taped the wrong side of one of the pieces of glass. Of course he didn’t tell me that until after it was glued up and cooked, so off came the glass. I got it cleaned up and glued it back on correctly but found a fair size place that didn’t glue well. So I got that opened a bit and filled it with CA (it was in the riser area) and clamped it good. I put both overlays and underlays on it to stiffen the tips a bit. Both are probably longer that needed but I learned what I needed to know for the next one.
After all that, it came in lighter than planned so it became a 58” bow instead of 60” to regain some weight. To top it all off it had to settle for the bottom end of a rattle can of finish. This may have to be my PLF model (Poor Little Fella).
But not all is lost since it was really a test run of the new form I made a while back. At the end of the day it lives and actually shoots pretty nice. I am not completely sold on the tiller but considering its hard luck story, it is what it is. Draw weight is around 33-35# at 28”, I still need to put it on the draw board and find out exactly.
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That looks just dandy skeater :thumbsup:
You could always gift it to somebody if you don't keep it. There's someone, somewhere who would be tickled to have it.
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It's ok, Lonnie.
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I really enjoyed your build story and how you over came your obstacles a mark of a true bowyer & still ended up with a shooter :thumbsup:
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Good Story... The best thing is that you powered on through and you learned a few things... The full draw looks good...
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Thanks guys. I hope someday to be considered a real bowyer :readit:
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Lonnie, after reading everything you went thru on that build........I’m more prone to call ya a magician than a bowyer :biglaugh:
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Lonnie, after reading everything you went thru on that build........I’m more prone to call ya a magician than a bowyer :biglaugh:
Well I sure enough can make money disappear. :biglaugh:
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Thanks guys. I hope someday to be considered a real bowyer.
Ya I hope ya do too someday, Lonnie:)
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That's a long way for just an okay bow Lonnie :archer:
Actually I like it alot. Kuddos for not giving up :thumbsup:
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Thanks guys. I hope someday to be considered a real bowyer.
Ya I hope ya do too someday, Lonnie:)
Dang Roy. I’m beginning to think those lightning strikes were meant for you, but keep missing and hittin your bows. :wavey:
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Just messen wif horn hat:)
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Just messen wif horn hat:)
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Ya better be careful. Ya mess with the horn, ya get the bull. Or something like that :laughing:
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Just messen wif horn hat:)
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Ya better be careful. Ya mess with the horn, ya get the bull. Or something like that :laughing:
Most of the bull you get from me is followed by another word
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oney ???
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Went on my first bonafide rabbit hunt today. My friend’s beagle was struggling but pushed 3 to us pretty early on. Finally connected on the third. Then we walked and did some brush kicking and managed to kick up a few more. Came home with 4, so it was a good day.
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Found some turkey broadheads in my outdoors room...
Then put new line on a couple crappie rods...
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Mmmmm crappie.
How y’all pernounce it. Craw pee or crap ee? :dunno:
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crap ee
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crap ee
Than craw pee must be right :laughing:
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:saywhat:
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Whats "new like"? Some kind of fishing mojo?
Ahh! Typo, took me awhile to figure that one out. All the regional lingo slinging got me discombobulated
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Fixed it thanks!
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In N Alabama it is croppe.
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Today I got the Osage belly lams and cedar core lams prepped for a bow for ME:)
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Found a few pieces of black ebony the other day too:)
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Those lams look very clean. I’ve been wanting to try cedar for a core. :thumbsup:
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Cedar isn't a real strong wood but makes a nice bow.
You just need to make the belly lam a little thicker to compensate for the cedar.
I cut those lams out of a cedar stave I had laying around the shop.
Looks like it's time to change the tablecloth on the workbench:)
Shop sure smells good:)
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Like those colors. What cha been smokin?
Never used eastern red, sapwood is ok to use?
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So Roy you cut most of your lams from staves? What do you do if the split is curvy?
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Doesn't matter in a core lam.
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ERC sapwood makes good selfbows so I imagine it would be fine for a core.
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What about the belly, like for your Osage?
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I cut a nice hackberry tree today. Got it split and sealed.
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Only ERC I've seen up close was in a closet.
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Flem...
I'm not gonna say nuffen:)
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It’s so hard to not say anything!!!😆😆😆
Dave.
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Well................ ole Flem is out of that closet now :biglaugh:
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It's OK, I got one of them fancy laptops with the lighted keyboards.
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Ben, curvy log splits become risers.
Unless I can get a straight 36 inch section out of it.
You could use cedar for a belly lam I would guess, never done it though.
Maybe bowjunkie will chime in here.
I know self bows have been made from cedar staves.
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Thanks Roy. Now that I have a real bandsaw I've been thinking about the best way to cut lams and backings from logs that I've cut. It seems your way is a good one since you are pretty close to following the grain if you take your cuts from a split stave, like cutting smaller pieces from a quarter of a pie.
None split quarter sawn wood doesn't necessarily follow the grain even though the growth rings look nice and parallel.
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Not all Osage split staves are lam worthy.
Just depends on the tree is all.
But the less quality lams can be used for core lams.
An osage, osage, boo trilam is a sweet shooter...
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Had a company call me and offer a hell of a job opp, so I went and talked to the man today. I about have to take them up on it...
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Had a company call me and offer a hell of a job opp, so I went and talked to the man today. I about have to take them up on it...
Do tell?
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Happy for ya bro.
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Had a company call me and offer a hell of a job opp, so I went and talked to the man today. I about have to take them up on it...
If'n it wuz thuh gubmint donte fall fer it, it's a trap.
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No gubmint , a local construction company. They made a good offer (for this area) ...
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Kenny you change more than Roy changes underwear :biglaugh:
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That ain't often enough I figure...
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Well hopefully it’s more money and less work....and has benefits
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Roys unders are proly pink :laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing:
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Way more of both ...
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Way more of both ...
Wish ya the best bud, whatever ya decide.
Just hope it doesn’t mean closing the wood shop :saywhat: :pray:
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I went after work to help support my taxidermists bad habits....whatever they are.
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Not gonna close but may be a little slower getting orders shipped .
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Nice one Brad, looks great!
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Well hopefully it’s more money and less work....and has benefits
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Nice buck.
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That is a good looking mount.
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Good looking there Brad bet that one cost some $$$$
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Thats a handsome mount you got there. Any idea how old he was?
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I'll guess 4.5...
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Thats a handsome mount you got there. Any idea how old he was?
Only have trail cam pics of him this year and last year. But I’d say either 4.5 or 5.5.
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Trying to get my shop (storage unit :j) cleaned up, so I can move around without having to sidestep and hop over everything. Was culling some lumber and found some stuff I forgot I had.
Got some African Mahogany, Osage slats, Purple Heart, and I don't even remember what the wide plank is!
Thought it might be Cherry, but its not. Its hard and heavy. Something tropical maybe. Going to have to run it through the planer. The Mahogany has beautiful ribbon graining, never used it for lams. Anybody ever made a bow out of it?
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Sad day for me. Had to put my little buddy down. Not gonna be the same without him. Gonna be some lonely in my shop....
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That sucks Ben been there ☹️
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I am sorry about the loss of your buddy.
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So sorry. Thats the saddest feeling I've ever known. Always fall in love with the critters.
Got a buddy who calls me Elly May Clampett.
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I am sure sorry about your buddy.
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Damn Bro... Never know what to say about things like that... Feeling sad for the loss of your buddy...
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Sorry for your loss.
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Thanks guys. Sorry to bring the mood down. I'm not on social media or anything like that, just felt I needed a little support from some people who probably understand what I'm going through. You try and prepare yourself for this, but you are never ready to let go. He was a special friend. Gonna miss you buddy.
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Sorry to hear that Ben.
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Ben, so sorry for your loss.
I've been there many times and I know how empty you feel at this time.
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Sorry to hear this ,Ben...
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Sorry to hear that Ben. Really stinks when ya gotta make that decision.
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Thanks guys. Sorry to bring the mood down. I'm not on social media or anything like that, just felt I needed a little support from some people who probably understand what I'm going through. You try and prepare yourself for this, but you are never ready to let go. He was a special friend. Gonna miss you buddy.
Just to reassure you... You picked the right place... We are all feeling for you Bro... I and most of us know how hard it is to lose your best friend...
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Feel your pain Ben, you certainly have friends to count on here
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That sucks Ben, my lab is getting up there in years and I'm dreading the day I have to make the decision.
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Thank you all for the support. It really helped. This website has a great group of guys.
I feel much better today. One day removed from the loss and I can focus a little more on the life he had and how he made the lives of the people around him better, mine especially. Jack was the 1st dog I owned, and even a day after the loss, I can say that it's worth going through this. Dogs are great and they can teach us a lot about how we should treat the people in our lives.
Can't say enough how much I appreciate it. Yes, he was just a "dog", but if you've had that special relationship with a pet you understand what they bring to your life.
Thanks again.
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My late bird dog and a bird on my other shoulder, LOL.
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My fishing buddy:)
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Minus seeing you with your shirt off, those are awesome pics Roy :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Fuggered that would get ya all excited:)
And the new puppy a year ago.
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Have had dogs ever since I was a kid and I'll never be without a dog.
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The new pup is almost too cute for you Roy. Luckily the dog won't judge you :)
Little dude could fly....this was about 2 years ago
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Sorry for your loss, Ben. I've buried 4 dogs and a cat in the 29 years we've lived here. Each one was special, each one has remained fond memories for my wife and I. You'll never find a truer friend than a dog, especially a rescued dog.
The cat(Lawrence) helped raise everyone of the dogs. He was the boss and liver 25 years.
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He could fly that's for sure, I did the same with Phes on our quad.
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Truly mans best friend!! I’ve lost quite a few in my 34 years of life. It never gets easier and you’ll never replace each one you lose. But you can start making memories and a new relationship when you’re ready. I can’t imagine not having one (or 3 :goldtooth:) in my house at a time.
Sorry for your loss it will get easier
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Sorry for your loss. Kopper put into words what I was thinking, you will be able to add to the memories, when you are ready, without ever taking anything away from the past.
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Roy, you wearing a collar too, man? :}
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Nope....
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I took a break from building and went to a 3d shoot. Not a huge trad gathering but I took 2nd out of 8 or 10 folks. Could have had 1st but my hoodie string wrapped up in my bow string and gave me that 1 extra 0 that put me 3 points under 1st. Such is life.
I also picked up some materials from KennyM who was kind enough to drive 20 or 30 minutes (a special trip mind you) to meet me and let me save on shipping. There just ain't enough good things to be said about him.
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Took my daughter to her first NASP state bow shoot. Her school(middle school) ended up taking third place. She ended up placing 129 outa 337 for middle school girls.
Couldn’t agree more Lonnie!!
I doubt Kenny would meet me halfway to save shipping :laughing: But I will say every order I’ve received has exceeded my expectations.
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Too bad about that hoodie strap Skeat. That only happens to me when I'm lined up on game!😉
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That sucks Lonnie.
I shot a 30 target trad only 3D yesterday too.
My hip did good but after 20 targets I was limping like ole Festus. LOL
Cool on Kenny's delivery.
Can't think of a better dude than ole pap pap.
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Dog gone hoodie strings. Ripped a button off on time shootin at a coon. Arrow still went right under his belly rared up and growled like a bear :scared:
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I shot my specs off once...
String got caught behind the corner of the frame.
That was exciting...
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Split a nice ERC log. Will try some with boo backing.
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Bet that smells good:)
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My shop smells like grammy's house :). I love it.
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Too bad ERC doesn't hold that beautiful color.
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that's purdy wood!
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I never saw it fresh cut before. That color is beautiful.
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It was a cool experience when the log finally split in 2. It flopped open and at first you see the depth of the purple color, then your hit with a rush of that wonderful aroma. Sensory overload for a few seconds.
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That really is beautiful. Did you harvest that yourself?
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It was in my Dad’s yard and he had to cut it down. I told him to put it on the side for me. It’s been in his shed for almost a year now.
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Got this one finish sanded and oiled. Posting a few pictures.
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Tips from some offcuts I had.
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Braced.
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At 28, very light bow 35 pounds.
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Bue thats really nice looking :thumbsup:
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Looks nice, Bue.
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Oooo Bue That is a beauty.
I got another under pressure. An Osage riser with stringy bubinga veneers
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Thanks, Osage and Bubinga should be a great combo.
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Stickypops, didn't happen wifout pichers...
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Sweet looking bend there Bue :thumbsup:
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Worked on a sanding jig for riser today... Something I should have done a while ago... Gonna make things a little easier...
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Nice...
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Jigs are always usefull
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Spending some time today looking for overlay material. Doin it the right way, in the woods........Roy. :biglaugh:
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This weekend I got to work on a forward riser ASL for a friend in Texas I got to know last June at Bear Quest. Osage riser and lams with green glass.
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I got this one out of the form. A peek at the stringy bubinga.
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Nice to see a ASL, I was starting to feel lonely :goldtooth:
Mr. Stic, that going to be a looker :thumbsup:
Whats that big, massive structure underneath your blank?
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You talking about my purple pole vise stand? With a Cummins KV-12 damper base. :bigsmyl:
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It otta be pink:)
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You talking about my purple pole vise stand? With a Cummins KV-12 damper base. :bigsmyl:
Just noticed the purple thing, I'm surprised its heavy enough :laughing:
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Roy I like purple better :biglaugh:
Yeah pretty heavy. Thats the form under the bow there just still got tape and plastic wrap hanging on it.
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Got another ready to wrap.
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Looking good stic. Is there a hidden I-beam or just relying on the Osage?
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Nice looking peace of hedge your using there Mike :thumbsup:
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Looking good. Where do you get the material you use for the wrapping?
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It has a 1/4 G 10. Visable in the tenon on the belly side. Bue Big Jim has the stuff or US composites.
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Damn Stic, your prolific. :thumbsup:
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Today I finished getting everything ready for a weekend bow gathering of some good friends. There should be 8 guys showing up. I've got some moving targets and other fun stuff planned. I'll share some pictures next week.
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Sounds like a great time, Clint.
Wished we lived closer together....
Pearly boy coming over?
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Interested in these moving targets. Sounds fun
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Parts and pieces and the mess. :thumbsup:
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Someday I will get what it takes to try that out. A pleasure to watch Mike.
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Yes, thanks for sharing this process. Even with the videos online, it really helped to see up close pictures of the process.
I like the yellow on this bow Mike. Is that osage?
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Thanks yes osage.
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Sounds like a great time, Clint.
Wished we lived closer together....
Pearly boy coming over?
Yes. I'll give him a thumpin' for you if you want.
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Yup, smack him up along side the head for me:)
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Would you look at that, I have officially run my mouth 1000 times on TradGang.
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Ya, we know.
Sigh..
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Gotta have sum fun. :biglaugh:
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Yeah, I kinda put that out there for Roy, it's been quiet around here since Kenny got a job.
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Jobs are over rated.
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Retirement rocks:)
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Well if I ever get adopted to a wealthy family I will give it a try. :pray:
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You adopted-------------- horn hat and all-- :laughing:
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I’m not makin fun of the horn hat anymore. I think it improves his looks :thumbsup:
C’mon, did ya see the full draw pic Skeater posted :o
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I’m not makin fun of the horn hat anymore.
C’mon, did ya see the full draw pic Skeater posted
Yup I almost went blind from the bright light:)
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It's a solar panel boys, gets me all charged up for the Mrs.
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You might have overcharged. Looks like your battery pack swelled up :laughing:
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It's a solar panel boys, gets me all charged up for the Mrs.
Why, so ya can out run her when she is pissed??:)
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LOL, this body don't run
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Yeah, I kinda put that out there for Roy, it's been quiet around here since Kenny got a job.
LOL , sorry guys, I'll try to get back to stirring things up as soon as I get used to this dang workin stuff again.
Bout killed me the first week , but week number two wasn't as number two...
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Kenny you keep my SS going :bigsmyl:
Got another apart.
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I got another one in the form. I am trying out the super lam so I hope I don't overshoot the draw weight, this is for SWMBO until she can decide what wood combo she likes or until she decides she likes being an archery widow more than joining in.
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This s l should only give you two lbs.
Is that WMTHHG?
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I am really getting confused with al these capitol letters :dunno:
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WOMAN MARRIED TO HORNY HAT GUY !!
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:laughing: Makin me hungry there Trad.
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WOMAN MARRIED TO HORNY HAT GUY !!
Yeah but she calls me a dirty old man.
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I started slicing up some old mill work that was in the burn pile at a Victorian remodel, I was working on some years ago. Turned out to be some nice Walnut. I have quite a bit of the stuff. Cant believe they were going to burn the stuff :nono:
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I also discovered why my trade bow came out so much weaker than expected. The plank on the far right, that I thought was Walnut, isn't. It's Butternut! Rookie move :banghead:
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Kids, huh....
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That is nice walnut Roy! Would look good under clear gla… oh yeah, I fergot… Never mind...
I glued up a nice bow blank for a wedding gift , grenadillo riser with osage accent curves, cherry veneers, and red elm cores. Also had to make a run to town to get my gal a birthday present .
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Well make yerself ah bow wif it bro...
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That is nice walnut Roy! Would look good under clear gla… oh yeah, I fergot… Never mind...
I glued up a nice bow blank for a wedding gift , grenadillo riser with osage accent curves, cherry veneers, and red elm cores. Also had to make a run to town to get my gal a birthday present .
Roy, do I need to gift you some Walnut? :wavey:
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Nope, I just sent Kenny some.
But thanks for the offer.
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Dang if that is Victorian walnut I’ll have to do sumpin royal with it!!
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I can't figure out if there is general confusion going on, or you guys are messing with me. :shaka:
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It has to be general confusion Flem
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Sounds like I need to gift you some Antique Walnut, Kenny :thumbsup:
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Gotta be confusion cause we might not do that on purpose intentionally just sayen ya know flemmy.... Well I wouldn't think we woods accidentally do nuffen like that to an older fellar.
So this is special walnut?
Hmm, lemme think now...
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Man I have too much walnut now !! I love the look of it but it’s not used a lot in glass bow builds I guess...
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Man I have too much walnut now !! I love the look of it but it’s not used a lot in glass bow builds I guess...
Depends on who you talk to :goldtooth:
Love using it for lams and riser accents.
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Maybe I should say as a general rule. There’s a few odd dudes who like it. ;)
I have one of the original test bows that I killed a lot of critters with and it was all walnut lams and black glass which I promptly painted with flat black and gray.
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Maybe I should say as a general rule. There’s a few odd dudes who like it. ;)
I’ve been called worse :laughing:
I think more guys would like it if they gave it a try. I like mixing it with other woods in the lam stack. I think walnut gives a softer feel with no loss in performance. Also love the contrast in color on the limb edges when mixed with light wood like maple.
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Yup, odd wuz ah good choice there.
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Hey I like walnut too, so I guess I'm a bit odd too... :)
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YES:)
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Well walnut edge grain is a good core. It soaks a bit more glue to. And if I could get it to take more juice it be good in risers and deeper brown. Odd No :nono:
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I took the bow off the form this morning, got it cleaned up and the profile laid out. I ended up about a half a string off center at the handle but I blame poor lighting, inferior tools, bad eye sight etc. I complained to my union rep about everything but the eye sight, in effort to upgrade the working conditions. She told me, and I quote, "Suck it up buttercup. Due to administrative cut backs there is no budget for upgrades".
Sigh!
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Stay on the inferior tooling, maybe you can get a new toy out of it. She seemed pretty nice when I met her!
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Hey guys, if anyone is gifting walnut I'm not too proud to take some of it off your hands :goldtooth:
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I may get one anyway Kenny, I had to cut this shorter than planned so it may be a bit strong. But, it's a good opportunity to learn how to trap.
Canary wood ain't half bad.
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I like that Canary wood. :thumbsup:
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This one for the boss then?
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That's the plan. I don't expect her to ever really shoot but she expressed an interest so I will feed that as much as I can.
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Lonnie, she may surprise you.
But ya gotta make it fun.
Print out a picture of yourself and let her shoot at that..
Hell, send me one too. >>>----------->
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Ah that just hurts Roy, can't I even get concentric circles on my dot?
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It's been a fairly productive day. I got the bow out of the form, shaped, tillered, tip overlays on and rough shaped and now I have the handle overlay glued and back in the oven.
Which brings the next question; I dropped the temp in the oven from 165° (where I baked the bow) to 150°, is that enough or should I lower it more?
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Looking good Skeater, is that small Jet sander accurate side to side?
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It's a couple or three thousand off. It used to be closer but I guess it moved a bit. But that is from one side to the far opposite. For lams, even side by side, it's pretty accurate.
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Even if she don’t shoot it much , chicks dig men who make weaponry ... ;)
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Even if she don’t shoot it much , chicks dig men who make weaponry ... ;)
I wish I would have known that when I was single. I have guns, knives, hawks, axe's, bows, sticks, rocks....
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Lonnie about 80-90 degrees overnite will cure the overlays.
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Looks good Skeater.
Why’d ya have to cut it short?
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Not sure when but the lams for the belly shifted about an inch or so, or I simply placed them wrong. I was worried that it might affect the super lam but it tillered ok.
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I am completely sold on the super lam now. I love what it did to the profile, both braced and drawn. The bow came 1 pound over target at 36#@28 and it shoots great and is throwing an untuned 392 grain arrow at 158fps.
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Looks like I could tweak that bottom limb for just slightly more bend overall.
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Nice, Lonnie..
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Last night I finally had everything ready to spray finish on the bow. Got 2 coats on it. Today after sanding it with 1000 grit I sprayed 2 more coats
I like it :bigsmyl:
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Hey Skeater nice bow! I'm getting ready to glue up a bow and going to try the power lam thing. If you don't mind divulging...what was the butt thickness and taper on your PL?
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I used a super lam sled I got from Kenny. He provided instructions on it and I promptly ignored them. :dunno: Not that his instructions aren't correct, I just started with my lam too thin so I stopped grinding before it was completely tapered end to end. So what I ended up with was part of the lam was parallel. From the butt (.079") it was parallel for about 12" or so, then it has a .001" taper. Then as it got back to the tip wedge I had about 4"-5" of parallel there as well.
Bear in mind that with the 12" on the butt end I cut some off because my tip wedge was about where I wanted it. This gave me about 8" of butt end parallel that went on the form, which happened to be right at the end of my riser so it worked out ok.
Next time I will start with a thicker lam to grind. :thumbsup:
Yeah, I know, way more story than you asked for. :biglaugh:
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More is always better!...thanks :bigsmyl:
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Last night I finally had everything ready to spray finish on the bow. Got 2 coats on it. Today after sanding it with 1000 grit I sprayed 2 more coats
I like it :bigsmyl:
Looks sharp! :thumbsup:
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Looks like it turned out great Sam :thumbsup:
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Really sharp, Sam.
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Starting today getting stuff ready to go to KY Tradfest. A great event. If you are in the area this weekend Fri. Sat. Sun stop in. Harradsburg Ky. Check the thread over on Powwow.
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Got ready for glue up...my third (hopefully successful) bow. Had a riser I cut out of a previous failed attempt and added some to it. The stack goes: clear glass, walnut, bamboo, my understanding of a power lam, riser, stable kor, bamboo, maple, clear glass. I modified my form with a center pin to keep alignment and going topless with her this time...I like the idea so I guess we'll see how it goes!
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Looks good :thumbsup:
I got to say, your a thrill seeker doing that in the kids playroom :scared:
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You for sure need the power lam or go thinner on those fades. Like that riser though.
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Looks good :thumbsup:
I got to say, your a thrill seeker doing that in the kids playroom :scared:
HAHAHA!...Ya they've been harassing me to get the garage cleaned up so they can play :big laugh:
Thanks for the advice Stic...I think I will thin out the fades a little. One of my other attempts failed (delaminated) on the riser side of the fade...probably due to too much pivot at the stiff fade when worked.
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Looking good! That is quite curvy form you have here. What’s your target in term of bow length?
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My first bow out of that form was 54" 60#@28...shoots about 178fps (10+gpp carbon arrow)...the curve makes it quite a hassle to keep everything straight while pressing so Imma try the topless/center pin and see how it goes. This time round I'm shootin for 58-60" to get a little more forward load on the limbs with PL=faster...IDK...hahaha (that's my theory).
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Well, I finally did it. I have some nice wood on the shelves that I bought many years ago and have never used. I don’t know, just kind of felt good that I knew they were there, nuts perhaps.
To night I finally took them to the jointer and nature’s beauty came shining out. The two 2x4 in the middle is Cocobolo and one of them is outstanding I think. The one laying crosswise I know is Bocote, the two on the sides I bought many years ago as a Rosewood, but they look more like Bocote, don’t you think?
I guess I have to use them now.
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Nice lumber Bue! Good investment too. I recently discovered how much exotic wood appreciates in value.
That Cocobolo sells for $46.BF here locally :o
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Oh my what nice wood Bue.
I got a hurry up finish on this to go to Tradfest. 62 54@28.
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Looking good.
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My Chinese bandsaw tension rod finally seized today. Soft steel! So since I had to dismantle the thing, I thought it would be a good time to replace the rubber tires with some urethane ones I bought a while ago. That was a good move, it must have reduced the vibration by 70%. Also had to arrange a temp tension rod/nut set-up. Lucky for me I had some 3/8" stainless all thread and a stainless t-nut. Was able to crank the tension way past anything I could get with the stock set-up. Put a 3/4" blade on and put it to the test.
Very happy, never been able to slice so thin before. I promptly ordered some 10mm acme rod w/nuts and a heavy spring.
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Nice looking bow Stic...I think I'm gonna have to follow your lead and put urethane on mine saw too Flem!...I like the idea of les vibration :gold tooth:
I got the topless form laced up today. I used 1/2" oak dowel and 550 paracord...seemed to work great with 50-60psi...didnt hear any cracking during hose inflation so there she sits drying....
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Hey, Flem, is that a bicycle powered band saw? :laughing:
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Hey, Flem, is that a bicycle powered band saw? :laughing:
I wish, it would probably have more power!
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That's the longest tension rod I ever did see:)
I fuggered Flem for a 3 wheel bicycle at his ripe ole age:)
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My tensioner also seized awhile back. Jet wanted to sell me the whole new thing slider and all. Got some grade 8 all thread and grade 8 square nut. then tapped out a piece of phenolic for a turning knob. $10 V. $40.
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That's the longest tension rod I ever did see:)
I fuggered Flem for a 3 wheel bicycle at his ripe ole age:)
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I saved my training wheels ;)
My tensioner also seized awhile back. Jet wanted to sell me the whole new thing slider and all. Got some grade 8 all thread and grade 8 square nut. then tapped out a piece of phenolic for a turning knob. $10 V. $40.
I heard that! No way was I going to spend $50 for a rod, nut and hand wheel.
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My tensioner also seized awhile back. Jet wanted to sell me the whole new thing slider and all. Got some grade 8 all thread and grade 8 square nut. then tapped out a piece of phenolic for a turning knob. $10 V. $40.
And here I thought I was a miser... LOL
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Oh, and I'm gonna get caught up on shop work today , raining in N MO ...
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Have oxygen and acetylene torches and a mig welder and off I go:)
Nothing like having all the big boy tools...
I heard stickypops squeaks when he walks:)
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You tryin a metal bow or building a form for glwass bows? :)
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Ya.
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Top secret eh , must be the new gwassy one then? LOL
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Could be:)
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Needing an oil can :laughing:
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Ah come on Stickypops, we all know that's Flem...
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I was this guy;
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Still looking :help:
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Needing an oil can :laughing:
Well, this guy with his one singular tool is obviously a self bow guy. Roy is a tri lam guy and uses an ax and a skilsaw and draws his electrical supply directly from nature.
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Manufacture my own natural gas too:)
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Fitting horns, takes time, has to be a perfect fit.
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This is great stuff Bue, ELB is my favorite bow of all time. Especially the war bows... not that I can pull one.
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I finally got the finish stage of the Canary wood bow. Not horrible if I do say so myself.
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Very nice indeed Skeater
Is that carbon on the nock?
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Super nice bow Skeater...nice contrast in the accents
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Pulled it off the form and got 'er cleaned up a bit....nuttin fancy but looks ok for inexpensive wood...
Thanks for the experienced advice to thin out the fades...I think it helped the glue lines in the end...And I really dig the center pin idea...no fuss with the stack shifting all over Sam Hill :goldtooth:
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Very nice indeed Skeater
Is that carbon on the nock?
Thanks guys. No, it's phenolic. I keep spraying the end but it keeps getting that milky white to it. I may need more sanding time.
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That looks good Jeff. I have been toying with the pin idea but have just never pulled the trigger.
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Looking goooood Skeater
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Lonnie and Jeff, those are nice.
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Good idea with the center pin.
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Thanks guys....Skeater I highly recommend the pin if you fight alignment at all like I do...My first bow I pressed in this form took me F-O-R-E-V-E-R to keep straight (probably my rookie showing through) but the pin worked slick and cut my fuss time to nothing...Gotta say the topless form was slick too. I think my struggles in the past may be related to the radical curves...hard to keep things from slip slidin away...hahaha
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Good idea with the center pin.
Thanks Bue...I'll likely stick to that method for every bow I make from now on :bigsmyl:
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It looks great Jeff!
I will be using a pin for sure for my next bow. The last one had the 2 super lams shifting to one side about 1” (and of course I only noticed that after glue up :knothead:)
What do you have in your stack? How much taper for these curves?
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Both nice looking bows Jeff and Lonnie :thumbsup:
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Skeater, that bow looks great. Very stylish
Nothing cheap looking about that blank, Jeff :thumbsup:
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Samuel, I posted the stack on pg 33 if ya wanna check it out...my 2 bamboo core lams are tapered 0.002/in each and I put my interpretation of the power lam between them with a strip of stable Kor. The first bow I did with this form was 54" but wore me out trying to keep it all aligned while pressing...(splicing all the lams with ea 40 before glue up greatly helped too) you will not regret using a pin :thumbsup:
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I think I remember Kenny talking about using a spring with the PIN. I'm going to try the pin with the next layup but going to use the pin Kenny talked about with the spring.
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Pin with a spring?
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That was on a td limb so the pin could compress to the thickness of the limb...
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Nice bows guys :thumbsup:
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Jeff that looks interesting.
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Jeff that looks interesting.
what part, the form or the weird riser :biglaugh: :big laugh: I had to add wood to an old riser to get it to fit the form...hence the strange design :goldtooth:
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I bought a cheap hickory bow for $30 with a little string follow, well made but obviously left strung forever.
I like an occasional seemingly hopeless project to fool with.
Unstrung with string follow and after reflexing and toasting;
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Eric, did you steam that bow to straighten out the limbs?
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Nope, heat gun and one of my bow bending forms.
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Eric, do you bend it into the form and then heat or do you heat it as you bend it into the form.
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Heat as I bend into the form, I can feel the limb relax as it heats up, I don't force it.
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“A little string follow”?????
I thought it was braced!!
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I am fascinated with the whole bending thing. I know heat and steam achieve the same results by softening the lignin in the wood. I am wondering if one or the other is more effective or has longer lasting results?
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Different woods are affected differently. Hickory needs steam for good bending like for recurves but for minor adjustments dry heat seems to work fine. Sometimes steam then dry heat is used to set the bend or correction.
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Cut up some red cedar today. Had what I'd guess is an old deer rub on it that gave it some nice figure. Cut up one piece and got a nice 4"x4" block. Should make some nice veneers.
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Thats some pretty wood for sure!
Is it native to South Dakota?
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Flem, not sure if its actually considered a native tree but its about the only tree that will grow in my area. I'm not totally sure its red cedar either, could be juniper. It was a dead tree.
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Glued up a new riser with a leftover piece of kingwood and some local locust
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Looks GREAT :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Stunning color in that cedar.
Kingwood looks good.
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ERC is a juniper (Juniperus virginiana sp.) and that looks like ERC to me. The knots really make the grain for lams but not so good for selfbows.
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Went to the big box store to get form materials for the ASL form found this fairly strait glued up Brazilian pine got every thing to make the topless form for under $40 ! I'm making it 72" long just in case I want to make a 70" bow
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Looking for a little advice from the pros....
I got knock groves filed in and tried to brace this bow after the tiller tree, which went fine, and my string wont stay on the belly side. What I mean is, the limb twists sideways and the string jumps around to the back of the bow. I had this problem once before and ended up cutting the riser out (I think this riser come to think of it). Anyway...I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem and if there is a cure besides the bandsaw...hahaha
My thumb is for size reference...
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If the string is touching the limbs you could try a higher brace height the more reflexed bows seem to like a higher brace at least for me if I try to low of brace I have the same isue you do !
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Hmmm...I'll give that a try before I dismember it, Thanks! :biglaugh:
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The closer the string is to the tips the more the bow string has a tendency to flip , I usually brace my FHLB bows 7 1/4"- 7 1/2" from the deepest part of the handle works for me !
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makes sense...thanks
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You might also want to try giving more angle to the string groove
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You might also want to try giving more angle to the string groove
Exactly what I was thinking. I do open grooves on mine from 90 degrees to 30-35 degrees.
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Thanks Samuel, that did cross my mind in a fleeting moment
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Bvas...That looks more like the finished product on my other bows...guess I better get to filing...thanks
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Well....I got a little anxious and filed out my knock groves and twisted my string about 10 turns :biglaugh:. They are still in the roughed out shape mind you but much more stable...I might even be brave enough to shoot an arrow soon :goldtooth: Thanks for saving my bow from the saw guys!
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Just make sure the corner at red arrow is rounded and take the edge off the belly glass in the yellow section before ya shoot it.
Don’t want ya to cut the string on the first shot ;)
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another way of doing string grooves for these types of designs is to only file the back of the overlay to start with. Then string the bow. The side grooves can then be marked against the string so you have a perfect groove to fit the string as it wants to lay along the limb. A larger diameter round file can be used to allow for a little wiggle room for the string. Not only does this way help in this way but I always seem to have trouble getting even string grooves on the side. Its much easier for me to file a nice straight line on the back of the overlay. Marking the side grooves after the bow is strung helps me in getting nice even side grooves.
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Hmmm why have I not thought of that :dunno: Good idea.
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I do the same thing.
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Anyone just putting top grooves on D/R bows? I’ve been wondering if a bow would be quieter with top groove only. Granted it is minimal, but there has got to be some string slap with side grooves.
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Actually Brad, I've only been cutting the string groove across the back of the tip overlay for a couple years now.
Cutting them down the side of the limb tips doesn't seem to be useful to me.
Just cutting the back allows the string to ride where it wants to along the side.
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Actually Brad, I've only been cutting the string groove across the back of the tip overlay for a couple years now.
Cutting them down the side of the limb tips doesn't seem to be useful to me.
Just cutting the back allows the string to ride where it wants to along the side.
Hmmm, sounds very interesting. Would you have a picture showing that? Are you still profiling the side to avoid to much friction?
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Roy, the only advantage I see to side grooves is they might save you if an overlay should come off.
Sam, that’s how I was thinking. File the top groove and make the belly side slightly narrower.
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Thanks for all the good info guys!...Very helpful indeed!
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I built a hot rod bow that the tips were very narrow and only had back nocks. Seemed to work really well. Not sure how the public would react though. :dunno:
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Sam, that’s how I was thinking. File the top groove and make the belly side slightly narrower.
Thanks, that’s what I was thinking. I will probably try that on ghe next bow
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I glued up a blank Friday and unveiled it today. I sure do like that Tamo Ash under BearPaw. A bit frustrated though, I did a few dry runs and had zero light showing anywhere but still ended up with marginal glue lines.
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Nice that your a perfectionist Skeater, but those glue lines are probably only going to be noticed by you! :)
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Lonnie, you have come a long way dude, your bows keep looking better and better.
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Thank you Mike and Roy.
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A little trick is use dark wood on one side of the glue joint when you can. Prob couldn't there but a lot of times you can, the glue will look dark too...
And your bows are getting better each time, they look real good...
Other option if flat black spray paint... LOL I have a couple of those!!
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Another trick is don’t zoom in and point the bad spots out. :biglaugh:
Looking good Lonnie :thumbsup:
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Nothing wrong with it, Lonnie.
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Lonnie, everyone will be looking those veneers and will never notice the glue lines. That's gonna be sharp!
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Ok maybe this is the right thread for the bow Kenny asked me to post.
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Lonnie, I see one of the thicker glue joints starts right off your scarf(which is super tight :thumbsup:).
So I’m gonna assume you hand sanded the lams after scarfing together. A lot of the time, edges get sanded more than the center when hand sanding. This creates a center ridge on the lams so no light shines thru, but glue lines appear larger on edges.
But I agree with the others.....those lines aren’t bad.
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How’d you feel about the top only grooves Kenny?
And still waiting on pics of your top only grooves Roy :)
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Roy you did not have to show us your cranial defect :laughing:
Lonnie I see nothing wrong with those glue lines. On my scarf joints I have a short piece of phenolic maybe 12 in. at the center I have two layers of masking tape. I the run the scarfed lam thru the drum sander with the scarf joint over the masking tape The tape will give about 6-8 thousands . Go slow until the joint is cleaned up on both sides. Have had better glue lines now.
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Thanks Elroy!! Brad I think they will hold up if the overlay material is strong. These look like antler. You can make a really skinny tip this way and you have as much limb as with grooves so should be a tad faster too.
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Lonnie, I see one of the thicker glue joints starts right off your scarf(which is super tight :thumbsup:).
So I’m gonna assume you hand sanded the lams after scarfing together. A lot of the time, edges get sanded more than the center when hand sanding. This creates a center ridge on the lams so no light shines thru, but glue lines appear larger on edges.
But I agree with the others.....those lines aren’t bad.
Agreed....my bows glue lines tend to get tighter towards the middle and look good once the bow has been shaped...once you get it shaped up i'll bet those visible lines get less noticeable....BTW looks great to me! I have a Bear Magnum that has glue lines on the riser like that ;)
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Ok maybe this is the right thread for the bow Kenny asked me to post.
That looks really sharp Roy! Is that a glass bow?
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Sam, I posted the picture for Kenny and yes it is glass.
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Sam, I posted the picture for Kenny and yes it is glass.
Thank you
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No issues with premature string loop wear ? Looks a ton easier than filling the entire loop area
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Done a little fletching today. Got some Big Jim Dark Timber 600s. Cut them 29 BOP. 26 in. draw @ 40 DARTS 2 fletch BTW
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Those are sharp. Curious to hear a review on the arrows. At the price I may be ordering a few dozen.
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I’ve been eyeing this shafts as well.
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:saywhat:.....might just order some right...now! Looks good!
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The big deal here to me is Jim did the research and found a manufacture that could keep the price good for the working man.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Big Jim
2-fletch with helical ? Like to see those fly
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Ya 2 fletch, ole crooked-stickypop can't count ta 3:)
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:biglaugh: They fly great. Those might be cheap wraps ---they aint stayin stuck down good.
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Can these shafts be painted?
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Not sure about the paint. Maybe ask Big Jim. He has a thread on Pow Wow about them also.
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I got this fancy smacy drill jig a few years back. I have not been happy with the way it worked and hard to clamp the parts right. Sooo I modified it. Using one of the drill blocks and bolting it down to be able to drill from both sides keeping the same side down. then if the width is off a bit it is all to one side and can be trued up.
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Pretty cool, Mike.
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I have so much to learn :banghead:
Looks great Mike :thumbsup:
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Mike, with that jig do you have get pretty exact on width? or do you drill it then run it through the drum until it's even? I never seem to get my width exactly the same each time, that's part of why I keep hanging in with the self-centering. That and I be broke folk and can't afford to have one of those made.
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Yes my curve limbs are 1.625 and longbow 1.375. The block can be fliped depending on curve or longbow. I have a plywood sled for the limbs and run them thru the drum sander to width. Needs to be within a few thousands. If you drill the holes same side down on the riser (drill thru each side of the block) and orient the limbs the same then all the excess will be up and can be trued up.
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Mike, ya got this glass stuff down purty good ole timer:)
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Thanx Roy ---
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Both of ya bein nice?? LOL
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Dont reckon it will last long :laughing:
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Always gotta be a guy coming in here wif his big pot stirring spoon...
Just trying to stir up dirt from the bottom!
I've turned over a new leaf in 2019, trying to be nice to old folks.
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I spect that leaf was poison ivy and you still gots itchy fingers. :scared:
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I gots me some Benadryl Itch Relief Cream.
Extra strength stuff.
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Finally got home and all my parts had arrived, so I put together my new tension rod assembly. Very happy :bigsmyl:
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Smooth and powerful. Roy suggested I silver braze the handle nut to the rod. Good advice, it might as well be welded on. I've got a spare heavy duty spring if anybody needs one.
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Good job big dog..
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Got a care package from my coworker’s uncle of 4 turkey wings and 2 tail fans. So plucked the wings tonight and will get the fans dealt with tomorrow.
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Pretty good shooten Mr. Miller
And that's why I only shoot 3 arrows at a time.
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That's the way to ruin a good arrow, Stik. :thumbsup:
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Did some tweaking on my one piece recurve this weekend. Glued up one with maple and red cedar with no stabil kore. It seems that the maple keeps the limbs just as stable as boo with stabil kore. I also took a inch off the length. I profiled and cut nocks at 60 inches then scaled it, then cut it back 59 inch and scaled it. I didn't gain any poundage to my surprise. It made the limbs a good bit more stabile and took out most of the hand shock. It always amazes me what small changes will do to a bow.
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Great looking bow Travis :thumbsup:
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Thats a real pretty bow Travis. You make that from the ERC you cut recently?
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Yep Flem, the tree was dead when I cut it. It was down to 7 percent. The riser is a piece of a Black Walnut log I got from a friend last summer with some canary wood. The log has some beautiful crotch wood in it but it has a crack rite in the middle of the nicest part, still thinking on how to save it. Wasn't sure of the combo at first but I think it'll be nice after some finish. Only bad thing is I missed poundage by 10 pounds.
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Nice... The limb looks like it is on fire...
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The riser is a piece of a Black Walnut log I got from a friend last summer with some canary wood. The log has some beautiful crotch wood in it but it has a crack rite in the middle of the nicest part, still thinking on how to save it.
Run your belly glass thru the riser. Then you can use the crotcheood as a grip overlay. Then it is no structural for the most part.
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I like that one Travis!
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A goodlooking one for sure.
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I need to use some ERC in a bow. That looks awesome.
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That ERC is beautiful Travis. :thumbsup:
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Is that the same cedar you see growing along the hiways and fence rows? Most have an abundance of limbs.
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Nope, it grows in cedar chests:)
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Is that the same cedar you see growing along the hiways and fence rows? Most have an abundance of limbs.
I wish! This is what grows on the side of the road out here in the nether regions;
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Okay then Mr. smarty britches :bigsmyl:
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Stic, It probably is. Rocky mountain Juniper and Eastern Red Cedar are a nuisance tree most places. In my area its one of the few trees that'll grow.
Flem, Is that sage brush or salt cedar? Also is that the crazies in the back ground?
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What's that ??
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It's sage brush, Travis. Not sure where it is, I took a screen shot of a Montana landscape. Kind of looks like the Big Hole to me.
Josh, I don't know what that stick is. Does not look like any measuring or property marker that I'm familiar with.
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Looks like a snake!
They say there are three distinct species of juniper in the Colorado Rockies. Don't think I could tell them apart.
We have a pygmy sage that grows on the dry flats at about 9000'. Only gets about 8 inches tall. When you walk on it it seems to be the strongest smelling of all the sages.
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I was thinking snake too and maybe thats why he had the pic
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That snake sure has a flat head :biglaugh:
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That's Flems fancy pole.
He wuz ah pole vaulten high jumper in Hi-School.....
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:biglaugh: nice catch Brad
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That's Flems fancy pole.
He wuz ah pole vaulten high jumper in Hi-School.....
I thought I hid that thing better! I could never jump in that Speedo they made me wear :scared:
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Well I am up---seems no one else is though :dunno:
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Been sitting here waiting on you to get yer butt out of bed, ole timer:)
Ya sitten there in yer fancy jammies drinken milk?
Ya take all your blood pressure pills too?
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Thought you old fellars do nothin but drink coffee at mcdougals :wavey:
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No, that's what pipefitters do:)
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Looks like I'm up before any of you guys. (MST)
How come their are no women Bowyers here? You guys scare them all off?
Whats McDougals?
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There was a bunch here before you started posting:)
McDonalds....
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There was a bunch here before you started posting:)
McDonalds....
I thought the only place my picture was posted was at the P.O. :o
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Not so, as I've seen your picture posted at Disney World too:)
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Done been to the bone crusher back now Coffee and my fancy jammie pants I save for WalMart shopping :laughing: We all know who poses with their bow in jammies. :scared:
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Yup we do know who poses with their bow jammies on.
Everytime my PC does a virus check, it throws up a red flag warning about that picher:)
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I added a Big Jim Thunderchild to my stable today. 58 in. About 43 at my draw. Pretty sweet shooter. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190501/df3fd1fa10483acf91022e3ef7ed63a7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190501/dd8302a23c1fb73af18cf90d77d010a4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190501/867f779ae943b544a7c4415a073cf3b0.jpg)
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That's sharp, Mike.
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Eh......... it's okay I guess
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That's really nice Mike, I have been eyeballing those for a while now. Happy for ya.
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Going to build a guy a bow with the rain forest White birch
. Have never used it before. Does anyone know is it it more like a diamondwood or an actionwood ??
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Would like to see pictures of the Rainforest.
On my way out the door to pick up a sheet of plywood for some forms.
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Mike go on the Kustom King site and look under bow building supplies.
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here.
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Made me look. Ouch! 40-54 bones for one of those riser blocks :o
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Yeah way over priced.
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Ah spend some of that SS $$$$$:)
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I made carpenter bee traps.
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That's what I need to do also, have a bunch of them buggers here.
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Don't have carpenter bee's here. What's the problem with them?
I am assuming the trap is for killing them.
Aren't they natives and pollinators?
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They bore 1/2" wide holes in the wood on your house or sheds.
Not my house but sample picture.
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Oh, that would be a problem!
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Yup, especially if they found your bow wood pile:)
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Around here the woodpeckers put the holes in houses. They go after anything that has internal gaps like T111. They can hear the bugs in there.
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Same here Mike, Flickers put a hole in T1-11 that looks like a nest hole on one side and a shotgun blast on the other!
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The bees don't just make a hole, they make a hole and take a right hand turn and may go several feet down a timber, then the woodpeckers go after the larva that the bee left in the tunnel and you end up with structurally compromised wood.
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You guys put any type of bait or attractant in the jar?
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Put you picture in there Roy then they for sure wanna get in and sting you LOL
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Making a new form My mom and pops hardware store been bought out. Used to get plywood custom cut. Not now though. So at Menards they got these ACX handi panels. 2x4. They measure exactly .750 += .010. So.I got two of them.I cut mine in half. For bandsawing. So they work well.
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Couple update pics after advice from y'all saved this one from the bandsaw when I was having trouble keeping the string on the belly of the bow when strung...THANKS AGAIN! It's shooting great! Hope ya like
got her all sanded and ready for wood grain filling or just finish...IDK yet
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Very nice.
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That one has some nice colors.
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No bait, the bees curiosity brings them in.
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Nice Jeff! :thumbsup:
That one is very stylish and it's got some sexy curves
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That looks great Jeff.
I would recommend grain filling. You’ve put this much work in the bow....why rush now? If you haven’t yet, try grain filling with super glue. It is quick and easy sanding.
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Thanks Guys!...I think I will try the super glue :shaka:
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Looks like you could make yourself some Texas Longhorns with that form ;)
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I give up...
What's a fi r bow?
Ya otta clean up that shop b4 ya get hert or stuck in there ole timer...
And turn the darn exhaust fan on, yer gonna kilt yerself ole boy.
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I give up...
What's a fi r bow?
Ya otta clean up that shop b4 ya get hert or stuck in there ole timer...
Yeah, and what's with the cloud of smoke? Get hit by lightning? Apparently the odds of a lightning strike go way high when ya get old.
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Oh yeah I agree spring cleaning is in order. If I can get about three days rain free.
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If I can get about three days rain free.
Really..
I'm about ready to start building an Ark:)
Anyone have plans on how to lay one out?
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May have found a solution to removing the oscillation from a Rigid sander
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Having trouble loading video. If this works today I'll post more
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Check your PM, Josh..
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Thats a lot of grease in there! Looks strange, contaminated?
Now you got me curious about your mod!
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Looks like it has water in it...
Here is Josh video..
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No to both. Just a very weird "snotty" type grease. So as the motor shaft spins the 3 prongs ride up and down 3 different ramps. That grease has some magic to it since the plastic doesn't wear away. Looks like regular plastic.
My "fix" is a piece of aquatherm pipe that's nearly lab grade plastic. Hoping the grease doesn't break it down.
Thanks Roy. For some reason I can't load video. Daughter using laptop for school :banghead:
If this works I'll get that last bit of oscillation out. :thumbsup:
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Josh is that the right video?
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If it isn't me riding a unicorn holding a pink bow it's definitely the right video :laughing:
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Youtube blocked that video of your pink skirt:)
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Looks like your still getting some oscillation?
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Just a bit. Wasn't sure how it would work out. After the next couple bows I'll take it apart, check for wear, and make the piece of pipe an 1/8" longer.
So far it's doing fine. Got the fades sanded down. Not much of an issue with that little bit of oscillation
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Ok been doing logs today. They are a pain but better than fitting the riser every time. This on has a petite little 13 in.riser. .004 limb taper and lots of reflex.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/2ac9873a80962940efc0b575e3b306aa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/046945d7accf26159e55c6649a3d69d3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/56bb26c9d2d8e888fcae730cc12520bd.jpg)
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Doing logs? What's that?
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Kenny, he prolly meant sawing logs, aka his afternooner nap..
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Fat fingers JIGS
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LOL I meant what ya knew
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I made Roy a gizmo out of fancy curly wood of some kind that he graciously donated to my St Jude Gizmo project. I used iron nitrate stain to bring out the curl like I do on a flintlock.
It still needs a few more coats of Tru-oil.
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Thanks Eric, that's sharp.
Was that from the piece of wood that had the round cut on the end?
I don't know what kind of wood it was.
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Eric, there were a lot of Gizmo's around the bow shop at the Classic. They all got a lot of use. :thumbsup:
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That's a nice one. Be sure to send structions.so Elroy ain't scratin his hair out. ;)
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It's so cool and inspiring watching what all you guys are working on...I finally got this thing sprayed down...I think I'll stick with gloss on this one.
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Good on ya Eric!
Sweet, J!
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liken that purple Jeff.
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Looks nice Jeff.
Did you end up using super glue for grain filler?
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Stic, how shall I put it. When you send the jig with handle along the profiling bearing, do you start in the middle and go out to the fadeout and then flip the handle over, so you do not grind against the fadeout? Hope this makes sense.
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It was the lighter piece of wood that looked a bit like osage but was much softer, I think it might have been myrtle, just guessing.
I got on a flintlock site and made the same wood request and like Roy the guys really came through.
I donated a gizmo out of my last piece of good wood to an auction for the Alabama Children's Hospital a couple of weeks ago, it brought $40. With all this wood I can make more gizmos than ever before and donate them to St Jude, the Alabama Children's Hospital and Catch a Dream auctions as well.
I have plenty of wood!
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Bue I use one end of the jig and flip it. That way both ends are the same and grinding center to fade.
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This threads is moving right along!
Bow looks really sharp with that gloss finish, Jeff. Must look extra sweet in person. :thumbsup:
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Eric, it could have been Mulberry then.
Ya did good on the wood.
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Looks great, Mike.
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That looks great Mike! Kind of retro cool, like a 50's Bear.
Whatever you are using for temp nocks, that's a brilliant idea, mind sharing?
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Flem those are just some old school tillering blocks. Mostly used for finding dynamic center on curves. I use them on longbows to find the strong limb after it is blanked out
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Looking Slick, Stic... If she bends good she looks like she could be pretty fast...
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Looks nice Jeff.
Did you end up using super glue for grain filler?
It does look pretty good in person ;) Thank you! I'm pretty happy with it...got a string made today and gonna shoot her a little more tomorrow maybe with the chrono...
I did end up using the super glue for grain filling and wasn't expecting the toxic fumes!...that stuff had my eyes watering and nose running :big laugh: Next time there will be better ventilation for sure!
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Diggin the profile Stic :thumbsup:
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Never was one to chase speed that much but I am thinking mid 180s.
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Looking good Stic. Is it a slight Thunderchild fever ?
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What chew talking about Bue ;)
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Mike, you made those tillering blocks sound so common place. I was searching all over to find any info on them and the only hit I got was on a defunct Pirates of Archery thread from 2008. Fortunately there was a pic at the end. Did you make yours out of aluminum also?
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I have these blocks also, made from steel. Like Stic says good for finding the strongest limb when bow blank is squared off exactly and before cutting any nocks. Other than that I do not use them any more.
Easy way to make them is epoxy together 3-4 large washers, cut a slot and drill a hole.
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You guys make the stronger limb the bottom limb?
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You guys make the stronger limb the bottom limb?
That seems to be the common reference. To me it's the stiffer limb, being shorter than the top one. I think if the limbs are timed and tillered correctly, they probably store about the same amount of energy.
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The form I use sets top and bottom by design. ASL's I set by stronger limb to bottom
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What Bue said on how to make them. I bought mine a lot of years ago. I think the pic I posted is pretty close to actual size.
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If ya dont like the strong limb on the bottom turn it upside down :laughing: :laughing:Elroy
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I'm not into gadgets, but I am curious. After seeing this thing all over the place, I decided I should make one and check it out. Thanks to the creator, Eric K. Haven't used it yet, but if it works like everybody says, I'll be happy to save some time.
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Did ya read the instructions on how to use it?
http://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=108906.0
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What!!! No video, I'll never figure it out. ;)
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Prolly not...
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I had a very good video on youtube about making and using a gizmo. A couple of months ago youtube deleted it for some reason, they said it violated their guidelines, go figure.
Flem, your gizmo looks a little short, 6" seems to be the best length.
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I had a very good video on youtube about making and using a gizmo. A couple of months ago youtube deleted it for some reason, they said it violated their guidelines, go figure.
Flem, your gizmo looks a little short, 6" seems to be the best length.
Dang , making weapons?? LOL
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I found the word "gizmo" was registered, this could have been the problem.
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Ya Flem, your Gizmo is short...
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Well...... My gizmo is 6", but the wood is soft ;)
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Knotty Pine?
Weeping Willow?
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Lodgepole :saywhat:
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Eric, would you mind, renaming it and putting it back up? If that's possible, I'm a glass bow guy but have been trying to learn how to made self bows.
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Knotty pine would be interesting specialy if the knots got that red translucent color in them be like having head lights on your Gizmo :laughing:
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Knotty Pine?
Weeping Willow?
Iron Wood?
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Knotty Pine?
Weeping Willow?
Iron Wood?
That wood be one formidable Gizmo!
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You need a softer wood to be able to force the nut down into the drilled hole.
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Drill a bigger hole.
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That's a brilliant idea, Mike. Whooda thunk it!
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Yup Pat, Mike is pretty amazing, sometimes:)
Ya gotta leave it smaller so the edges of the nut have something to bite into.
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A little glue will help that, Roy.
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Nah, then it wouldn't be authentic:)
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Gonna go check out a connection on some Sheoak today... If it pans out it should put me over the top and I should have enough wood to last me a very long time unless I start selling the stuff...
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Lookie what Eric sent me....
Thanks Eric, it's sharp...
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Nice one Eric! Elroy , if you put the pencil in the other way you could make a glass bow with big curves...;)
I glued up a 64” modified with a phenolic riser and black glass blank, have a twin to do next. Should be sharp !
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Didn't happen wifout pichers!
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Didn’t have shop camera and never touch my fone when there is glue going...
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Do have one I sent the blank buyer...
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Dont confuse him Kenny lucky to get the pencil in that way. :laughing:
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You need a softer wood to be able to force the nut down into the drilled hole.
OOOOHHHHHHHH, I thought we were using metaphors.
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Skeeterbait, I recognize the name....
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You need a softer wood to be able to force the nut down into the drilled hole.
OOOOHHHHHHHH, I thought we were using metaphors.
Don't you mean meteors?, blazing thru the darkness.
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Skeeterbait, I recognize the name....
Skeaters been scarce lately. Building a new shed to replace the smaller one only to find out I have to pour a new pad too acuz the city thinks I need to have it 10' from the property line. So, not only learning how to build a shed, I am also learning how to dig for a pad, haul gravel for a pad, level a pad and soon, pour a pad and finish the surface. And then finish learning how to build a shed.
City life sucks.
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No joke skeeter. That’s why I don’t live there.
Heck I built a 3-1/2 car garage. Took the county three years to find out and redo my property taxes.
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If it makes ya feel better skeeter, I'm getting ready for a 10 x 20 shed by the pond..
But all it does is rain.
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If it makes ya feel better skeeter, I'm getting ready for a 10 x 20 shed by the pond..
But all it does is rain.
Roy, you finally building me a guest house :thumbsup:
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I like your pond Roy, any fish in there?
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LOL Brad.
Yes Bue, blue gills, crappie bass, and small mouth and large mouth bass.
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You should add carp for spring time bow fishing :archer2:
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Thats a whole lot of green you got there Roy! Is it humid by chance?
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It's been raining for 40 days and 40 nights:(
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That must be the large mouth one, that is the one on the left. ;)
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Damn! Those look good enough to eat. Actually I've never had fresh water Bass, how are they?
Looks like the dogs are ready to jump up and grab one :biglaugh:
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Naw Bue the big mouth is on the right wearin the hat. :laughing: :bigsmyl:
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Stickypops, ya talken bout my wife?
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I scored off my local craigslist today :shaka:. It's rare to find anything useful around here, got to look all the time.
You guy's won't believe this, but this was free! The woman just wanted it out of the house. Apparently her son had visions of making Bows, that were never realized. Oh well, I'll take it.
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Good job...
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Dang Flem good find.
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Looks like ya better get busy flem
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Should have said camo hat Roy I would say your wife is special ta put up wif ya :bigsmyl:
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Yes, she is very special..
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Very good bamboo catch.
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I forgot to mention the ad said, "must take all" :laughing: :laughing:
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Nice find Flem my BBH is one of my favorite natural material bows boo is tuff stuff !
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Won't be needing any riser wood anytime soon... Got them all ripped in half yesterday and ready for the bandsaw...
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What kind of wood is that? You have to show us what it’s like on the inside! 🙂
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Rich, is that the Sheoak? I had never heard of it before your post about it. Native to Australia, but that don't look like it came from down under :bigsmyl:
Looks like pretty wood, at least on the wood database site pics.
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Yes... It is Sheoak... Here is a pic of a riser with some heartwood... The wood varies in color... From blonde to browns and darker with red in it...
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Nice wood. Is it available at any wood supplier?
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I don't know... Always harvested my own..
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Sounds like a business deal could be made :bigsmyl:
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I've never heard of sheoak. Is it a native tree? is it an oak?
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It is from Australia... Grows wild here in Florida...
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Is it like Australian pine? I think it is cassarina too.
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Yes... That is what it is called also... But it is not a true Pine...
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Here all this time I thought "Sheoak" was a girl oak tree.
I've lived a sheltered life I guess...
Duh:)
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Here all this time I thought "Sheoak" was a girl oak tree.
I've lived a sheltered life I guess...
Duh:)
She's a Shelia mate! Fake girly-man Oak.
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It is pretty wood for a riser, with the red undertones it goes good with that glass you chose there Shreedy !
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I got a big package from kenny it included these riser blocks the wildfire , its very cool, cant wait to try it & coffee got enough material hanging around to make about 50 bows just no time this summer !
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Less reflex , less wedge 4 lb my guess 🙄
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Roy you pretty close to what I was thinking 5.6 :bigsmyl:
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Morning Stickypops, ya have yer cheerios and milk already this morning?
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Nah Rasin Bran and gunpowder.
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Dang, he must have really big hands?:)
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I hate to agree with Elroy , so 5.51 if you are going from .003 to .004 taper. :)
Roy, that is a FORWARD handle...
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Biggest ferwerd handle I ever seen....
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Stick, is it a static?
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That’s nice. What are the woods?
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Got the first phenolic riser 64" modified off the form and tillered. Weight is perfect , even tho I made a SWAG on the stack... Last one I built was BP glass with bocote veneers.
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Didn't happen wifout pichers.
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What size can of WD40 are you using?
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The L* size dummy.
Kint ya read?
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Might have it figured out.
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Mike , when you make the first compound angle cut, if you don’t like the look, just change the blade angle a touch til you like the look. You got it goin on!
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That's sweet looking Mike I like that combo :thumbsup:
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I dunno?
It could be ok:)
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That fat riser is save the planet white birch $$ got to start that wide to accomadate the steep angle of 50 in. Bow. Not static but parallel limb.
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So Mike is that your SWAG on the 2 in. shorter bow? I am thinking the WD-40 may interfer with good adhesion :saywhat:
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You gwass guys sure do whine a lot:)
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Huh? Only had one lightning strike here in 20 some years... :)
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What's yer point there, Fuzzy?
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Twins look good.
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Nice Kenny!
I bet they are heavy with those phenolic risers.
Will the pattern disappear in the phenolic once its finished?
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Looks like a bow ballet!
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Looks nice Kenny!
I was just mindin' my own business shooting my latest bow and heard something hit the wall behind my target...Think I'll stick with antler from now on...the FF string was a little too much for the purple heart :dunno:
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That could have been tragic!
Seems like Purple Heart is dense and pretty, but not too much shear strength.
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Looks nice Kenny!
I was just mindin' my own business shooting my latest bow and heard something hit the wall behind my target...Think I'll stick with antler from now on...the FF string was a little too much for the purple heart :dunno:
Don’t take this the wrong way but that makes me feel a little better. I built a hickory bow and we spliced in Purple Heart tips to get rid of twist. 100 shots in and the lower tip came apart. I’ve wondered for 2 years what went wrong. Now seeing these failures around here I’m pretty sure it was the Purple Heart that failed. I was using B50 Flemish twist.
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Finally on the second set of limbs I got within guaranteed weight. Maybe the BO glass thing bit me. Anyhow got some done on it today.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/c58e9a9850c3c31cb9b0de0cf751c133.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/76759b0b156c20f4712990362d6a2184.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190523/b1c289f8643ef9b09eddf0cbfa10ebf2.jpg)
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Stic, I’m assuming you meant BP glass. How much did you miss weight by?
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9 on the first set and 2 on the second set. The numbers I went off of on the first set worked for two other bows using Gordons. I also notice that when chamfering the bolt and dowell holes with a stone it seems there is more resin content in the BP. Hoping they get this corrected. Cause it is nice and clear.
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Looks super cool Stic! gonna have to try one of those some day.
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Ya purple heart lost my favor for anything structural from now on....I actually shot it one more time after the tip popped off not knowing what had happened...luckily the thicker phenolic piece held and the string didn't take any damage :biglaugh:
Don’t take this the wrong way but that makes me feel a little better. I built a hickory bow and we spliced in Purple Heart tips to get rid of twist. 100 shots in and the lower tip came apart. I’ve wondered for 2 years what went wrong. Now seeing these failures around here I’m pretty sure it was the Purple Heart that failed. I was using B50 Flemish twist.
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Stic, here is what I have found out about Bow laminates. Gordons is 70% resin, 30% fiber by weight.
Bearpaw is 75% fiber, 25% resin by weight. I have discovered thru experimenting that the compressive strength of the resin adds more draw "weight" than the tensile strength of the fiber does.
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Flem, that's interesting info there.
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Flem, that is interesting for sure!
My bows come in 5# light with BP compared to Gordons ..so far... I've heard the glass spine changes roll to roll on the BP but I haven't found that yet.
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Jeff looks like the top of that string groove may have been some of the problem also.Looks to have a hump in it.
Kenny could have been some human error involved to. :bigsmyl:
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That is a terrible smell. And Elroy is gonna have fun with yer pic!:)
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Yeah well we need entertainment around here.
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Jeff looks like the top of that string groove may have been some of the problem also.Looks to have a hump in it.
Kenny could have been some human error involved to. :bigsmyl:
No humps, but I can see how the pic suggests that...I think I just got my string grooves too narrow to start. Ground 'em off and added a little more phenolic and bone!...should do the trick :bigsmyl:
Super Cool Riser BTW Stic!
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What kinda antler is that Mike? Sure is dark.
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Not sure what the antler is. I think it has been stabilized and color added.
Think that tip will work now.
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Looks nice Kenny!
I was just mindin' my own business shooting my latest bow and heard something hit the wall behind my target...Think I'll stick with antler from now on...the FF string was a little too much for the purple heart :dunno:
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I built my first laminate bow just last winter, used purpleheart on the tips, somewhere between 100-200 shots the top tip broke in 1/2. I will not use it again.
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I just relocated from France to CA with my work. I have been busy moving out and in with family in the last couple weeks.
Unfortunately I couldn’t bring my shop with me! It will probably a couple more weeks until I gather everything I need to start a new bow
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Great looking bow!
How short is it?
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Feeling really down today.
Lost a very close friend yesterday.
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Sorry to hear, Roy.
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That tough to take, sorry Roy.
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Sorry Buddy...
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Sorry to hear that my friend.
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Sorry to hear that Roy.
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I think I shaped the perfect grip today.
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I guess it's ok:)
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Stic.... Where did you get those accents?? :thumbsup:
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Whipped up a 58” FHLB blank for a customer over the weekend, 52@28 will finish out around 48@28(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190528/71b806a85a359e2d6f142a77b5dc23a8.jpg)
It is Osage riser with nat boo cores and spalted hackberry veneers, has yellow tape on it in this pic
BTW don’t buy 3m tape on big auction site that says 1.5” wide. It ain’t ...
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Looks sweet Mike.
But perfect???? Looks like the apex on that shelf is about 1/16” too far forward :laughing: :biglaugh: :laughing:
Is that color streak natural, or is that tinted?
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Good looking stick there Kenny & smooth looking handle Mike , I think Im going try the 58" next Kenny !
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I have already adjusted the Apex. The accents are all maple. The grip part took on more black dye maybe a softer maple than the main riser section. :dunno:
Kenny good lookin bow there and you find a lot of stuff on BA that aint quite what it sez.
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Heck, just make your bows narrower.
What's the big deal?
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LOL I tried it on this one and it's OK but I didn't order 1.430 " wide tape.
My bad...
Hey , that's the first time I said that !! What does it mean anyway?
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Could have been a brain whoops?
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Heeey I have that once in awhile :bigsmyl:
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0k I got this 56 in.Lighting Stic done yesterday. I am liking the way it shoots.600s with 145 up front like darts.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/e302fa52ea76d74507f2d7c0be809aac.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/e8a62dd1d180cc86716d313b7b4cbdca.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/16789955668f9469400958ed6322c080.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190531/a35cf0f1e704ee2b85099f526c299222.jpg)
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Nice looker Mike I really like that quiver on there !
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Nice Stic, any chance of a full draw pic?
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Cool bow ole fella.
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I gotta wonder about anybody that shingles their driveway????
Looks good Mike :thumbsup:
Now back up to 10’ and show us how she does :biglaugh:
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10 feet back could be trouble:)
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He shoulda put a stack of shingles there.
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That is before the backer board. Those bags need to be about twice as thick. They get shot thru in no time. Shingles make good driveway material. If you get them cut up they are like asphalt after awhile.
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weather finally cleared enough for me to lay up this second FHLB . larned a heap. Mostly needing to put stops each end of form, and extend my side washers high enough to cover all the layup at riser. Back glass on this one slipped to one side even with cable ties in place. Had to narrow it about .250''. Weight came in at bottom of my target of 40# to 45# , right on 40# and 60'' ntn. riser wood is Tasmanian Blackwood and belly veneer is Camphor Laurel, mainly because I could get a full one piece lam out of a board and one less thing to worry about . I differ to most as instead of having a thin veneer I often incorporate the " veneer" as a lam. this one I just went with 3 lams including " veneer'' With the lower poundage bows I think the tip wedge is essential, this one is 10'' , just to keep the tips off the string and maintain a reasonable brace height. Also incorporated the power lam after "mark one" [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] destructed near the fade. They are such a great performing bow, I am sold on them Going to make another as soon as circumstances allow.
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That one turned out beautiful Bob glad your getting the bugs worked out that riser wood has very cool grain !
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Thanks Ritchie. I will have to make a few changes to my form mainly to keep every thing aligned properly but love these bows . 40# is a bit light for my preference but because I Will only be target popping it will be ok, Glad I put those wedges and power lam in too.
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That turned out very nice, Bobby..
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Thanks buddy, sorry to hear of your loss too mate. Take care.
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Nice looking lines on the bow, Bob... Do you have a full draw shot also??
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Sorry Shred, got no one here to take the full draw shot anymore.
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Ya have a timer setting on your camera?
It delays taking the picture after ya click the button.
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Don’t know Roy would have to check it out and it’s bed time here almost 10.15pm. It is only a “ point and shoot” camera
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That's a sweet one Mr. Bob!!
I spent most of day yesterday getting to my skid loader after the water went down off hwy 36 (4 lane btw) and getting all the water out of it. It got flooded, luckily it only got in the engine and not the hydraulic reservoir or fuel.
Dropped the oil and water out of it and put in a mix of diesel, tranny fluid and engine oil . Believe it or not(I still don't hardly) it cranked right up. Ran it about a minute driving it out of the mud it was in , changed the oil again in engine and the chain cases , and moved it farther uphill. Never assume the water won't get that high because you might get the torrential rains we've had lately...
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You may need to run it a little longer, Kenny, at least until it comes to operating temps to be sure all the water and moisture is out. Lots of water coming down through the middle of the country.
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Yep, I'm gonna run it an hour when I bring it home and change oil again...
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Wow mike. Good job.
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I like that riser wood and it goes nice with the lams too. Is that a custom limb bolt wrench?
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Not too bad there pops...
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Sight window cut out for the limb wrench. drilled a hole in it and routed for the 90 degree part with a dremel tool filled it with smooth on and put a cover on it.
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Thought it was a combo wrench/stabilizer. :)
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Yeah, if it was me I'd end up shooting the bow with the wrench stuck in the bolt! :tongue:
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I thought it was an old timer assist gadget.
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I thought it was an old timer assist gadget.
Uh huh. For old guys with soft hands. Gonna have to make me one!
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You guys are all kickin' butt... Bob... Don't you have a tiller tree for taking a full draw pic??
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Hey Bob, have a kangaroo draw it back and you snap the picher.
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Lovely bow crooked stick. Nice work!. My tiller tree is horizontal on a bench with a grid placed on table top under bow, and drawn back with boat winch. This allows me to map limbs. I do have a straight tillering tree I use for self bows but it is under a mountain of debris somewhere . will have to dig it out.
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Lovely bow crooked stick. Nice work!. My tiller tree is horizontal on a bench with a grid placed on table top under bow, and drawn back with boat winch. This allows me to map limbs. I do have a straight tillering tree I use for self bows but it is under a mountain of debris somewhere . will have to dig it out.
I been thinking to make a tillering tree the same way. The other option is to screw it to the fence.
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Good day today. Finally a nice sunny day. Got my swap bow done, then I glued up a hollow pine beam to make a carved fireplace mantel for a friend, then I poured black tinted epoxy into the cracks on a padauk coffee table that I’m making for another friend.
Afterwards, I mixed up a batch of honey-bourbon barbecue sauce for some chicken wings and barbecued some moose burgers.
Happy happy happy! 😁
Dave.
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It's not about making bows but I thought I would share this amazing pic with you all... If yah gotta remove the pic, let it sit on here a day or two so the guys can see it... I think a lot would appreciate it...
If you also notice she is riding without a saddle...
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Or without reigns...
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You sure that's not photoshopped? Look at her legs and feet, they are hanging loose, no griping on the horse's flanks.
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Prolly used EA40):
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Prolly used EA40):
And the horse's name is chastity?
Or maybe she has velcro garments on
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I looked at the photo again... There is a shadow from her leg and the bow on the horse and her dress seems to be lying naturally on the horse in the right spot... Looks legit to me... Y'all just talkin'n cause she be puttin' you ta shame... :biglaugh:
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I looked at the photo again... There is a shadow from her leg and the bow on the horse and her dress seems to be lying naturally on the horse in the right spot... Looks legit to me... Y'all just talkin'n cause she be puttin' you ta shame... :biglaugh:
I just been holding biting my tongue.
I figured since this was in the “what ya did today” thread....the next pic was gonna be of you attempting to recreate the photo :biglaugh:
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OMG - I'd pay good money to see the recreation :laughing:
Gotta be a similar outfit (or pink chaps maybe?)
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I'll just behave myself:)
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I gots an idea to but I dont think I will post it. :bigsmyl:
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I'd volunteer to do the recreation, but I've been working my adductors and I might crush the horse.
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He will love it :biglaugh:
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Carpentry starting to run slow... Cleaning up shop... Maybe start working on bows again... It's been a while...
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Got my quiever today and put it on pretty neat set up !
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I glued up the first bow that I have made in over 15 years. I did make a boo boo and got a split in the belly glass when I cut it so I had to make a change from a 70" ASL to a 68. I had to remove a lam so that it wouldn't be too heavy. I'm afraid it will be a tad light, but I can deal with that. If nothing else I can cut it to 66" to get a little more weight. I only draw 27" so that would still work. I was building it for my son who is 6'-5" and draws a lot longer than me so it looks like I will be building another one soon to fit him.
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Stic, that's some ugly Sh!#
Now on the other hand, Ritchie that looks real nice. And thats from a guy who is not fond of bow quivers.
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That quiver made me relies if I make a 58" my 32" arrows are going to be longer then the bow , Im going to try it out, last year I was catching a lot of brush with the back quiever !
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I guess it's ok:)
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Not archery related but I canned deer meat yesterday, mighty good stuff.
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Awesome Eric.
Do you season it somehow?
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Awesome is right!! Bro cans some, great on out of state hunts. A pack of instant mashed taters and throw the canned deer in and you eat in 5 minutes.
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Just a little onion, garlic salt and pepper.
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Thanks
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Back from Cloverdale. Pretty slow there. Turn out seemed low to me.
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They prolly heard you were going:)
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Pulled the first batch of honey frames off the hives today.
Should yield about 60# of honey.
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Yummy..
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That looks great Eric, I love canned deer meet! It's versatile, you can put it in about anything.
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I dunno can seem to not keep frim doing simething different. I made two bows off the new form. Now decided I need to put the riser on the normal side. Why ? Thunk it will be easier to do a two piece that way.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190614/2e62540baba00823f8fb8413fc38d9d0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190614/813a85e738ae7df33652b5e9c54d2871.jpg)
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I guess it's ok, if ya like blue.
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You guys have been doing some great stuff I have been watching from the road not much bow time for me but fletching up some reall stiff 2219s to test this morning !
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I see you are into weaving baskets too, Ritchie?
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Yep learned it when I lived in the hippie commun :goldtooth:
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Ya need to make one for ole Stickypops, he's into them purty baskets:)
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Flem that is a serious looking sander. Homemade? like to see it strung up. Ritchie
Me wants a pink striped basket just like you would make for Elroy :laughing:
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Just for you stickypops:)
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Nice tool Flem... How do you keep the belt aligned??
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Sure nuf' Stic, it's homemade. And it's funky, like James Brown made it!
Shredd, all the wheels except the drive wheel are slightly crowned and the tensioned wheel has a alignment screw for tracking.
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I've seen it all now..
Redneck contraption..
LOL
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Very cool sander Flem , Mike you want the rain bow flag & pink bows like Elroys ??
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SWEET..!!!! You Da Man...
Don't mind Roy... I think he just figured out what electricity is...
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Gooberboy, how about I put a pink dress on yer swap bow picher?
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Went to Compton for the first time. Got to meet and talk to Big Jim. Bought a couple small 3D targets and got 4 pieces of bamboo.
Pictures later maybe.
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Yep Big Jim is a nice guy. And he will share his knowledge with you.
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Today was my lucky day.
Went and got the epidural steroid shot in my lower back.
Hope to heck it gives me some relief.
The lower back gets a workout when tillering a bow on the tree.
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Hope it gives you some relief Roy.
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Time to show you boys how it is done again... :laugh: It's been a while...
Zebra, Wenge and Padauk...
Hope it the shot helps you Buddy...
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Hope it helps ya Elroy!!
That padauk will ruin a good sandpaper, eh?
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Damn Roy! I thought only pregnant women got them ;) Seriously though, I sure hope it kills the pain.
I'll be curious to hear how it works, I might be having one in the near future.
Shredd, looks like you got some kind of homemade sanding device there. Please share pics and description.
Homemade tools are awsome!
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Thanks guys, I hope it helps too.
That looks nice Shreddy...
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Roy hoping that shot helps you. That proly I need but kinda scared about needles being around my spine.
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Meant spine. Got a new phone and my fingers too fat. Lol
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Nice....
LOL
They put me on an MRI table face down and used the live image on a PC screen to guide the needle. Only took about 3 minutes once he started.
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Yeah they told me I could have dye one time or an MRI. He said 1 in 50 may be affected if the stuff goes wrong and you get a horrible headache and have to lay down for two days for it to go away. So they put me to sleep for the MRI. cant handle the tube.
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Shredd, looks like you got some kind of homemade sanding device there. Please share pics and description.
Homemade tools are awsome!
Hey Flem... Just a 9 1/2 drum on a dedicated old drill press...
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Nice :thumbsup:
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Did ya make the drum or purchase it, Shreddy?
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Nice....
LOL
They put me on an MRI table face down and used the live image on a PC screen to guide the needle. Only took about 3 minutes once he started.
Been there done that. Not pleasant at all.
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Not archery related but today I got notice of my 50th high school reunion in October. The classmate that sent me the notice also sent a pic of about a dozen of my old classmates. Some looked familiar, some not. It's been 50 years since I've seen most of them. My wife and I got married in '78 and moved out of Savannah then in 1990 we moved here to the mountains of Southwest NC. This should be interesting.
Holy crap, did I say 50 years? :scared: :dunno:
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LOL Pat, all my class mates look like old people for some reason...:)
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Did they show up in cars wif stone wheels carrying those baseball bat looking clubs?
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I'll let you know in October, Roy. The high school we went to is a Catholic, military high school, a tradition in Savannah. My Dad graduated from there in 1918, me in 1969. :saywhat:
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Did ya make the drum or purchase it, Shreddy?
Made it... Works great... Mainly sand my fade ramps with it... The bigger the drum, the more consistent your sanding will be...
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Well yesterday I had to pull a deer tick off my wife's foot.
It was embedded right on a vein.
Checked with a magnifying glass and I got it out intact.
Sent her straight to the doctor for a prescription for an antibiotic.
That was her 3rd tick and I've had 2 ticks we had to remove the past 5 years.
I hate ticks.
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Those deer ticks can dig in. Have had a few in past. I always treat my clothes if I think I will be where even chiggers are. Seems anyone else can lay in the grass but I am there they get on me first. :biglaugh:
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That's cause you are such a sweet ole timer:)
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We've had more ticks this year then in years before. Usually in the spring we would get a few, or at least our dogs would :goldtooth: but this year it's a daily thing removing them from the dogs. My wife had one attached earlier this spring but usually we just find them crawling.
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Both ticks I had on me caused me problems.
First one was a woods tick, the bite would not heal, 8 months later it looked like a big pimple, I squeezed it and the ticks head popped out.
Second one I had to have a surgeon cut open the wound cause it would not heal, he removed the tentacles.
That was embarrassing cause it was on the cheek of my butt.
Kenny and Flem, be careful there:)
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Roy I am pretty sweet. Lol
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If the tick doesn't kill you the antibiotic will... You better read up on that... Take the warnings seriously... Messed me up pretty bad...
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Ok Dr. Phil:)
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Had to read up on ticks. I don't envy you folks out east, with those tiny deer ticks!
Our ticks are big and slow. You can feel them crawling on your skin. No Lyme disease here, butt(sic)
we do have Rocky Mountain Spotted fever.
Roy, it sounds like you have desperate ticks there.
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You guys need one of these.
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We have 3 on hand when near tick areas and have only had to use it once to extract a head but worked great.
Had my first experience with chiggars last year and never want to deal with that again. That was a miserable 3+ weeks.
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We have a tick removal tool also.
Flem, I caught that:)
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I feel sorry for the tick Roy
but glad yer okay too
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Lets just say the tick had good taste:)
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Til he bit you, then he had a bad taste... LOL
I'm cleaning in the shop while the resin riser with phenolic I beam glue cures.
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It's one of those days... You know.... The one when you have got about an hour's worth of work to do... But the switch is failing on your sander... After you fix the sander you find out that you are out and have to make a lam for your overlay... Then you don't have any tip blocks that will match your bow... So then you decide that you are tired of screwing around with the hassle and mess of making one pair of blocks at a time so you are now gonna make a tip block jig.... Now its the end of the day and you still did not get done what you started out to do...
:clapper: I Applaud myself.... :clapper: LOL... Maybe I will get this chit done tomorrow...
Time for a Brewski.!!
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Sounds like my everyday:)
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Tip block jig worked good... Just gotta make one minor tweak...
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Boxed up a pc of glass for Brad, since the postal service smashed the box I sent first time. Fortunately no lams were harmed in the incident and the other 3 pcs of glass made it out with minor injury...
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I know how you feel...
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Got most of the prep work done for a glue up. A little bit of finish sanding on the ramps and fades, and I should be able to glue tomorrow evening.
And Kenny’s customer service is A+ :thumbsup:
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I built a sawmill a while ago. A friend gave me a nice clean oak log so I fired it up on the weekend.
Got some nice boards out of it. Need to set and sharpen the blade...
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I would love to have a saw mill.
Nice.
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Yeh sawmill would be nice. May be a bit too much for old fellars like use Roy :bigsmyl:
Anyhow I got new PC with 10 on it yesterday. Custom build for less than $300. Liking it so far.
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10 what on it..
Flies?
:)
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Windows 10. Everything I had on the Win. 7 Mostly just surf and got quite a few pics.
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Ah I see.
I didn't know your surfed?
What kind of surfboard ya got?
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Ditto on the sawmill! Homemade awesomeness :thumbsup:
Would not do me much good though, I'm in a hardwood desert.
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Just what I was thinking, Flem. Not much use for cottonwood in a bow.
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Bug killed lodgepole pine boards are going at a premium price around here for wall coverings. Even in hardwood deserts there are opportunities. Some of that lodgepole pine I saw would make good bow back veneers.
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Ah I see.
I didn't know your surfed?
What kind of surfboard ya got? Osage one :laughing: :laughing:
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Got one in the oven this evening.
No pics...... So did it really happen :dunno:
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The lodgepole makes great arrow shafts but I don't have a saw that can work it. Goes well in the fireplace too.
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Got one outa the oven and cleaned up today. Had a little mishap, but I’ll tell ya about that later.......maybe :biglaugh:
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Looks nice, Brad.
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A sawmill would be cool. I saw one a guy made with car tires and wheels to run the blade. Wish I’d taken some pics of it ...
Brad will fix any mishap...
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Brad, is that the G10 riser?
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Brad, is that the G10 riser?
Sure is :thumbsup:
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All kinds of videos on U tube. About home made ones.
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I made my first batch of string making wax. I used 2 lbs of bees wax and 2 toilet wax rings. I guessed at the ratio. I think it turned out good. I'll give it a test run and adjust the ratio if I need to.
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Looks good, Clint..
Like how you melted it.
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How many strings you planning on makin Clint???
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How many strings you planning on makin Clint???
Yeah! That's a lot of goomba.
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As many strings as I want to Bvas :laugh: I do things in bulk. My time is getting more limited so if I get set up to do something I take advantage of it.
Roy, that's how I heat up my hide glue too. The water pan keeps the heat steady. It takes a little longer but the results are better.
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Geesh I been makin strings for bows I have built for 12 years am about to be thru with my third tube of wax.So that much would last me 40 years maybe :bigsmyl:
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Here is my latest bow... Just under 39#... I will post numbers later for the performance junkies... As for now she shoots over 182 fps @ 10 gpp...
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Nice..
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As many strings as I want to Bvas :laugh: I do things in bulk.
Don’t you mean......That’s none of your beeswax :laughing:
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Shredd, that bow looks sweet. What’s the red wood you used for center I beam? Looking forward to the details.
Good productive day today. Between doin other household chores. I managed to get limbs profiled. Also got riser and tip overlays shaped and glued on. It will still be a couple days before I get a string on. I’m planning on adding antler to the tips, but prefer to get all the base material on and narrowed to the limbs first. That way I can get the antler as thin as possible.
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You building yours before the missus' ?
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As many strings as I want to Bvas :laugh: I do things in bulk.
Don’t you mean......That’s none of your beeswax :laughing:
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You building yours before the missus' ?
Shhhhh :goldtooth:
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Very nice Shred, and good performance too!
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Nice bow there Shreedy pretty :thumbsup:
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Beautiful looking bow there Shredd :thumbsup: I was thinking you had some cool looking burnt orange glass till I saw the other pics! Funny how camera angle can change the color.
Bvas, "I Heart explosives"?
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Actually I'm not sure about the belly glass color?
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Thanks for the compliments guys...
Just for chits and giggles...
I posted this bow on FB on a trad group claiming it shoots over 182 fps... Some guy said BS on me and this is what he posted...
"I know that my 65# bear grizzly, a short and super fast recurve shoots a 440gr arrow at 180fps.
This wouldn't come close." :clapper: :biglaugh:
I told him that his bow was slow and to go educate himself and get back to me...
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It's a pretty bow and a performer as well. Well done I'd say.
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Yesterday I took a long day away in the mountains. It was good for the soul. Saw this group of cows, calves and yearlings and the grumpy looking fellow in the stream.
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Awesome Mike.
Wish I lived out there.
But not close to you.
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Nice bow Rich
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Awesome Mike.
Wish I lived out there.
But not close to you.
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More than happy to suggest where you should go! :bigsmyl:
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LMFAO
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Looks great, Stic.
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Purty nice...
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Very nice looking bow.
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I really like the shape you have on that bow! Can you post a photo of the strung profile? I have struggles with getting a similar profile in some of my builds. I haven't quite got it yet but, to me... you nailed it.
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Yeah I think I have a strung pic. Not the same bow but the same profile.
And doing some jigging.This riser has G10 in it hoping to do a two piece. Pretty steep ramps to so gonna need a dry run to be sure everything closes up with the hose.
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Wow those are steep. What's the length of that riser?
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Pretty cool Mike.
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That looks pretty nice!
I get the coat hanger reference now.
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Yesterday I was on our daily walk with my 2 dogs, Maggie and Rosie. We walk down our driveway(1800', 200'elev) at least once a day. We were heading back up towards the house when I caught a flash in my eye and both dogs took off. I realized it was a small fawn. I reached it just as the dogs nocked it down. Grabbed the fawn and clutch it to my chest while trying to control the dogs. I made my way to the creek where I heard movement in the bushes from Mom. I crossed the creek(3' banks) and set the fawn down. She took off I assume with Mom.
To hold a days old fawn so closely was quite an experience. I'm only glad I was there.
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Awesome Pat
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I thought so too, Mark.
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Fantastic job, Pat.
Good on you.
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13 in. I am thinking just veneer and glass on the belly.
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Cool story Pat... Thanks for sharing it...
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Very nice Mike looking forward to seeing that one is that the 13" riser ?
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Looks nice, Mike.
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You guys kill me :)
Always sawing perfectly good bows in half.
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Stickypops does that cause the tips don't line up right.
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LOL RFP
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Yes sir got to have your tips in line.
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RFP ??
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Roy from penn
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Had me wondering too..
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Well ya know how the jammie posers think sometimes :laughing: :bigsmyl:
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:dunno:
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LOL there ain’t near that much to my jammies...
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Too much info:)
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Amazing how much money folks spend on camo, when they could just buy a $20 set of jammies that are dead quiet, comfortable and of course, stylish :bigsmyl:
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FYI...Clint has lost 90#, yes 90! He started getting in shape for his first elk hunt in Colorado this fall by hiking with a loaded backpack and he just ran his first 10k run with his daughter, a track star in her own right.
His jammy/camo is quite stylish. :thumbsup:
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I was going through some old archery related stuff and came upon this poem I wrote years ago.
Thought y'all might get a kick out of it...
The reason I quit shooting a compound
was the copious amounts of beard hair found
at the nock on the string
from the arrows I'd fling
so a bandanna was used as a beard bound :saywhat:
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Good on Clint....
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90#'s!!! Thats got to feel good :thumbsup: Can't even imagine how much hard work that was.
Thats like losing your Siamese twin
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I been finishing a few bows that I started... The Bow Gods have been with me... It's been raining a bit here every day... I paint outside so when I paint after the rain, the rain washes everything from the air and keeps dust from rising...
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Same in my part of Florida, Shredd. I have 3 Bows in the finish process myself
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If you are ever in Melbourne area bring some of your bows and stop by for a visit...
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yeah the rain in Florida makes it hard to do things this time of year.
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I did a handle rehab to make a lousy shooter fit my hand and become a tack driver.
Notice the respirator in the background, it was a sad day when I realized I had become so allergic to osage dust I had to make bow with this dang thing on. It sure take a lot of the joy of working wood by hand away.
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Thats some dark adhesive, resorcinol?
I'll say this for the benefit of the younger Bowyer's, if your making dust, wear a respirator!
No need to compromise your lungs, which all wood dust will do. Not to mention synthetic glue dust is, in the case of what it looks like Eric is using (ureaformaldehyde) a known carcinogen.
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The glue is unibond with the dark hardener.
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Been pretty busy with work and the holiday. But I’ve managed to get some work done on the G2 riser bow.
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That overlay is real sharp! :thumbsup:
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It's ok:)
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Nice handle !
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Nice work! Like it!
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Might take you up on that one day, Shredd. You going to tbof shoot in august
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Looks Great Brad :thumbsup:
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Meet Black. This is the one I cut in two last week. After shaping and stringing and beating it with a dead blow it aint moving. Plus the fact of other cosmetic issues it got black paint with clear over that. May even make it uglier with tennis rachet wrap on the grip.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190716/abe1db56186aeac6d000f2409b565d3b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190716/4c5af6d93e8d44e79619639226769d2b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190716/ef0a6820aff88e0230b5fb54924e2eea.jpg)
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I like it, Mike.
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I like it :thumbsup: my BW recurve is all black ,I really like the look !
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Okay going for a 58 in. TD Longbow. Frm 16 to 14 in. Riser and pushing the limb butt in 1 in. On each limb. Made. SWAG on stack we will see.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190717/0ebed34acae192e2b2d3e71d1adfb0c2.jpg)
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What ?
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What? :bigsmyl: typo should be 58 in.
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SWAG... Scientific Wild A$$ Guess.
Looks like it will be VERY interesting. Be good to see it all finished.
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Cool
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SWAG... Scientific Wild A$$ Guess
Love it, LOL
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Stic, do you have something unusual for serving on the Black Beauty string?
Can't quite tell from here
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Flem I bought that serving from Timberhawk at Tradfest. They said it was .020 halo. Got more white in it than most I have used. It works great with 14 strands of D-97. GT and Dark Timber nocks snap on but you can still turn the string. Perfect fit I think.
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Looks good. Must be the pattern of the string, made it look like a diagonal wrap.
Pretty much anything looks exotic to me, I still use mono. :campfire:
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I use the brownell fast flight serving, about the same pattern.
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OK, I see now. It's braided, duh.
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The best serving I ever used, I ditched mono 20 years ago, it broke to often, always at an inopportune time like in the middle of a tournament.
What Have I been doing; picking and drying chanterelles.
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Nice haul, Eric.
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Thats a lot of Chanterelles! Those things are expensive to buy. Wish we had them around here.
I've heard a lot of people complain about mono breaking. I can honestly say that I have never had a mono failure in 45yrs of using the stuff and as someone more eloquent than I said; "Mono will make a flat turd round"
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I never had mono....
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I never had mono....
In that case, you can go on a kissing spree :goldtooth:
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I never had mono....
In that case, you can go on a kissing spree :goldtooth:
Just threw up a little
Thanks Flem :biglaugh:
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:saywhat:
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C'mon Josh, what's the problem? I've seen pictures of Roy, he's a handsome Dude.
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Yeah, for a Sasquatch! :)
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but kissable, Flem? :o :dunno:
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but kissable, Flem? :o :dunno:
Can't answer that one, I don't kiss Dude's. Bet his wife don't mind ;)
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I hope McKenzie doesn't get wind of this conversation:)
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Just a wonderful morning here in Pa.
6:45am and it's already 80 degrees outside...
Is it October yet?
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Same here , 81 yesterday morn when I left for work at 5:00 , quit at noon tho. Great boss!
Relief on the way they say, 82 for high Sunday and 80s all next week .
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42deg@6:00am here. Supposed to get hot next week. Getting nervous about fire season.
Time to get back in the shop for some bow making!
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It’s in the 90’s in my garage. I just got inside to cool off. I was flattening a padauk tabletop with my belt sander. The sweat and dust dyed my t-shirt orange.
Dave.
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Spiffy granite top I just made for my drum sander...
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I guess it's ok:)
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Just got back from our evening walk with my furry friend and we saw about 20 Elk and 4 calves. Boy are they cute! They were running around all goofy, splashing in the water. They are usually up high this time of year, makes me wonder....
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Had an unusually productive day today :dunno:
1) Stained/finished up the bow I backed earlier with linen - I'd bought some 'natural' finish varnish by accident for another project which co-incidentally worked out as the perfect colour to finish this bow without the white linen showing through the TB3. The photo doesn't really show it well, but the linen has almost vanished and the colour matches the rest of the finish/wood very well. A couple more coats with some sanding and it should be done. I also fixed a weird random extreme nock high shot that I'd occasionally get by adding a leather flappy rest. Just have to add a handle wrap and it should be good for the bush! Fletched up a few arrows to go with it as well :thumbsup:
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2) Made up a couple of serving jigs canabalising a fly tying bobbin and some aluminium (or aluminUm :laughing:) flat bar. Have been doing them by hand with the afore mentioned bobbin. Can't believe how easy it is to use, should have done it ages ago.
3) Built an endless loop string jig a la Nick the Backyard Bower's (youtube) with scrap I had on hand. Good thing I didn't spend any money on it, I built a string straight away and realised my posts weren't high enough for the serving jig to clear the adjusting nuts.
4) Built a string using 3) above. Gotta lot to practice but I can see a spare or two strings for every bow in the near future.
5) Built and installed a clicker on the bow mentioned in job 1). Helped clear up some left/right issues (arrows, not my directional dyslexia) and reminds me to follow through every time.
And I managed to bank lots of brownie points mowing the grass, clearing up the pruning rubbish, washing etc. etc. Think I'd better go to work for a holiday.....
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Good day there Steve, LOL on banking brownie points.
Ya never know when yer gonna need to cash them for bow material:)
Flem, I'd love to be able to take a walk and see 20 elk.
But all I see are damn deer:)
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Old Bue taking Yew stave sapwood down to one year ring. A bit slow work, but I do it, looks better I think.
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Dang that is an old bowyer there:)
Now I don't feel so old:)
Ya have more patience than I do, Bue...
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Nice bow Fly...
Always have lots of respect for you skills, Bue... You Da Man... Wood or Glass...
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Nice shop, Bue. Having all that natural light in your shop has to be a pleasure.
You don't look all that old either, Bue. :bigsmyl:
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I like your limb stabilizing jig, Bue. Going to have to make myself one like that. I can only imagine how many problem solver jigs you have in that beautiful shop of yours! :thumbsup:
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But you are Roy
Nice bue
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Just a little...
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I modified a bow form for a 60" Recurve today.
kenny's sending glass and ea-40
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Well not today but yesterday I finished this one up. Three piece TDLB. shorten the riser. 2 in. to 14 and 1 in. Off each limb (butt end) = 58 in. Charcoal actionwood riser with camo veneers. 47@28.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/292f683eabcd110e33c0fde485d364ca.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/0f8988a332d28389c544e28710c62759.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/7db473df9c5d009bc7d96b9b24759467.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190727/f3bafcea7314b8986d5a595faf68c146.jpg)
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Very nice!
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Nice job, Mike..
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Looking good, Stic. :)
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Looks Great :thumbsup:
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Awesome
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Thats a fine looking Bow there Stic!
Those accent colors are awesome, fiery looking. Made me think of a lava flow.
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Thanks. The accents are the same stuff that spectraply panels are made of.. Called and ordered single sheets. They got Pink to :bigsmyl:
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Nice bow!
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Cody and Flem I took care of the last couple posts.
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Sorry about that Roy and Cody.
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No foul Flem. It was a sensitive subject so I removed my posts. You’re good.
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Awesome....
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A nice curvy one too
I like the snaky one's
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Thats a nice looking stave :thumbsup:
I really like your mobile work station!
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Nice snaky stave there, Darin. :thumbsup: Is there a bow in the top piece you split off? Maybe a kids bow?
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Thanks, Flem I built that a few years ago when I started having back trouble from being bent over working on bows. I raised my Vise up per advice of Eric Krewson and it help tremendously. I also made it so I could raised one end and engage the wheels to move outside or clean under it. Pat it's going to be close on another full size stave, I may be able to get one if I chase the ring from the inside verses outer diameter of tree will have to wait and see but can definitely get a shorter stave out of it. I finally figured out pictures again after photobucket debacle and my computer crash.
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Today, I eased into my 70th year on this earth. Hard to believe I'm 69 years old. Seems like just yesterday I was 68. :laughing: ...not that there is anything wrong with it. ;)
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Pat it is all a state of mind. I am in my 72nd year and don’t feel much different to being in my fifties. Can still pull a 60# bow but why bother. Lol 40# gets an arrow there quick enough. :thumbsup:
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Happy birthday, Pat.
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Happy Birthday Pat!
I like getting older, beats the alternative.
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Yep happy birthday Pat !
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Happy Birthday Pat
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Thanks for the birthday wishes, guys. As with most of us "old timers" the inner kid is being held captive in the aging body. I'll take every birthday I can get from here on out but I can still gripe about the things that hurt and slow me down. ;)
Bigbob, I have dropped down to 45#-50# instead of my normal 56#@26" but that is mostly due to not shooting as much as I used to. I still harvest, cut, split and stack 5 to 6 cords of hardwood firewood each year for our heat and a few months ago worked 172 hours in 3 weeks on an out of town construction job so I'm not ready to be sent to the glue factory yet. Probably wouldn't make good glue anyhow. :laughing:
Just hard to believe that much water has gone under this old bridge.
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There ain't been no water under that bridge in years. :laughing:
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Happy birthday, pat welcome to the 7th decade club.
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Proud to be here, Monterey. :thumbsup:
Mark, we had 170" of rain last year so lots of water.
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170"!!!! We don't get that much in 10yrs!
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Flem, we've already had over 60" this year. Our area used to have the highest annual rainfall in the continental US next to the Olympic Peninsula. Looks like we are heading back towards that trend.
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Rain started on us in Mississippi all last summer and has not let up.
annual average of 59.23 inches of precipitation, and we are past that now.
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Same in Pa here, lot of rain the past 1.5 years.
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Gratulerer med dagen. :)
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We had crazy extreme drought last year. September all the ground cover above timberline was brown. This year it's the opposite. Loads of winter's snow still hanging on and lots of rain in the high country. Builds up by about 1PM and rains until after dark. I might be a half day hunter this year. :)
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In my little yabber I actually forgot my original intention which was to wish you a happy birthday. Must be my oldtimers dementia kicking in. Anyhow hope you had a great birthday.
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Speaking of age....
I was feeling mine today. I'm a little lite on years compared to some of you gents, but staying in shape is a lot more work than it used to be! I decided I had better start training for Elk season and strapped on a 30# pack and did a 2500' climb, 11 mile hike. It kicked my A$$ :deadhorse:
I've been hiking and MTB'ing this summer, but the weight was the spanker. I can see a lot of pain between now and Bow season. :scared:
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I've been doing a lot of scouting between 10,500 and 12,500. It's definitely talking to me about the years!
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Damn Mike, that's some serious elevation :notworthy:
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Yeah, it's pretty thin up there. It's too hard on this old body to set a comfy base camp and hike it in every day so I'll be living like a tortoise, home on my back. My speed is also comparable. :)
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Now I get why you are up so high! Not for the Elk. I've spent many years getting high in the Rockies and can count the number of Bighorn's I have seen. It's a mystery to me, how you can get close enough to one in the terrain they inhabit, to shoot one with a Bow.
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Good luck and have a great time :archer2:
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Hey, Flem, it's a mystery to me too. LOL
Figuring it out is the whole deal. In my travels so far I quit counting elk at 60!
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Opened up my mailbox and it was like Christmas morning...
I am going to use the release as a tool to work on my form...
If you guys make more than six bows a year you have to get a inflatable rolling pin sander... They do a thorough job and save you tons of time...
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I assume the sander turns. Air pressure or what?
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Put it on a drill...
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Geeze O Man..
You gwass guys cwack me up....
Blow up tools and ball shooters?
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Opened up my mailbox and it was like Christmas morning...
I am going to use the release as a tool to work on my form...
If you guys make more than six bows a year you have to get a inflatable rolling pin sander... They do a thorough job and save you tons of time...
I have one like that, I think my pump is not the correct one, it's hard to get the pressure right. When I disconnect it the pressure runs out.
What's the name brand of your pump.?
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I used one of those before, but it was solid body. So that one gets inflated, and then spun with a hand drill? If it has a Schrader valve, you might replace the valve core to see if it holds air
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Sheep about a mile and a half. 16 rams.
Also a hundred or more elk 1/2 mile away.
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Stay after them Mike
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Awesome, Mike..
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Looks like fun!
You might need one of these in that Alpine terrain :bigsmyl:
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Mark... Yes I know what you mean... I tried the hand pump... Did not work... They said don't over inflate or it could damage the tool... I used the blow tool with a rubber tip... I just gave it a quick three or 4 shots of air until I got the right amount of inflation.. Sometimes you don't have to depress the pin inside an air valve to inflate things... Probably when there is little to no pressure inside of what you are inflating...
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Thanks for the tip Rich
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If it is critical on air pressure you need an air regulator inline to keep from blowing you tool out.
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No Stic
the sander runs off a cordless drill, the sanding mandrel is a rubber bladder with air in it.
I forget what air pressure it uses, not much.
https://www.amazon.com/Shop-Fox-D4594-Hand-Held-Pneumatic/dp/B017ZE6DMW
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All I am saying is if you control the air pressure with a regulator you could inflate it out of an air compressor without danger of blowing it up.
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I'm glad I don't make them high tech gwass bows.
For my wood bows, I just fold up a piece of sandpaper and work it up and down the limb by hand..
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Ditto on the sandpaper. I do make low tech gwass(sic) Bows, but no fancy shapely handles that would benefit from a high speed contour sander.
I had to look at the specs on those pneumatic sanders, they take a max 8psi. Thats about 3 strokes with my bike pump.
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Mine is collecting dust, I do like Roy
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You weren't kidding about the green! I like it, but my taste is strange.
Looks like you do some fancy quilting too, Stic
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Flem, Mike has that bow laying across his lap. :laughing:
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Got to cut up about 1/4 of my ERC supply with the bandsaw. My shop smells amazing :bigsmyl:
The exhaust from my dust collector spread this pink dust around my yard.
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That green looks sort of translucent under finish.
Mr. Pat I can quilt you up a pink for your lap :bigsmyl:
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Damn Ben! Thats some really nice looking ERC. I had to dig thru a big pile of the stuff at the lumber yard to find one decent straight grained piece without knots. And the yard dude was giving me stink eye the whole time I was digging! I bet that dust will keep the bugs away.
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Thanks Flem. Yes this is some good ERC. Fairly straight grain and not many knots, which is rare with ERC.
I posted this pic a couple months ago, but here's the log where the boards are from. I did my best to follow the split grain, not something that the lumber yard cares about. Should be some nice lams in there. And I have a few staves too .
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Nice stuff Mr. Ben.
Nice sewing there Stickypops:)
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Well ya gotta be multi-talented :goldtooth:
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Nice looking all around :thumbsup:
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Decided I need some new hunting shafts today, so I unearthed my stash of Western Larch. This log was fire killed in 1988 and was laying on the ground till 2000 when I went and ripped it up and carried it out. This stuff is incredibly rot restisant. You can make some heavy, small diameter shafts with the stuff. Anything larger than 5/16" is usually too stiff for any Bow under 60#. I do prefer Cedar, but at $30. a dozen, I'll use the larch. Besides, it pretty wood!
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Tight grain for sure How does it work.
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Stic, is that Green Apple or lemon Lime flavor. :biglaugh:
To answer your question about the larch, if you like Douglas fir shafts and you got your hand on some Larch,
you would be giving away the Fir. It's kind of like compressed cedar, great if you like shooting arrows with thumping power.
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Hmmm does kinda look like a Jolly Rancher apple. :biglaugh:
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That larch does look like good arrow wood...
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Sucking up some blanks for forms for experimental limbs to be used on a takedown riser... Gonna try making a high performance, lightweight, short draw bow for women and youth...
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Go Shredd! Love to see a fellow air sucker. I am continuously amazed that more Bowyers don't use this simple, effective method.
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Flem... I knew you would go stickin' your nose into this... ;)
I am totally with you Bro... You can glue up a riser in a quarter of the time or less and you don't have to worry about screw placement... Get with the program Boys... :thumbsup:
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"blanks for forms" :dunno:
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I guess I'v been gone to long.
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It's just a block of wood until you cut it out into a form...
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Flem... I knew you would go stickin' your nose into this... ;)
That was like shooting fish in a barrel :biglaugh:
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More like you just shot a hole in the bottom of the barrel and let the water out... :biglaugh:
Well guys never assume anything... I assumed that granite top was dead flat... It's not... SOB!!! It's not off by much but it is off... I guess I will do a little trick with the lam keepers to straighten things out... It sucks to do all this work and use good material for a sub-par job...
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This is what you need if you want it to be flat.
I use these all the time back in the day.
see if you can find one local on a auction site.
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Made a string jig out of scrap oak.
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I dont understand how a thin plastic bag can bend plywood enough to keep it straight. Even with a vacuum? I suppose the dumbbells do that. AS far as riser blocks go I use C clamps.
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I dont understand how a thin plastic bag can bend plywood enough to keep it straight. Even with a vacuum? I suppose the dumbbells do that. AS far as riser blocks go I use C clamps.
Is that a nice way of saying, you don't believe it? :saywhat: Believe it, it works! Obviously you cannot bend 3/4" plywood into a arch, but Shredd was glueing up plywood into a blank form and needed it to be flat and the reference surface he was using, was not. This pic is from a thread back in March. Thats 4-3/16" Maple slats(3/4" total) pulled with 12Hg vacuum, pumps will pull 29Hg at sea level. I didn't get the full bend at the tips because I let the bag pinch together before it could suck onto the form. This was using cheap 4mil LDPE plastic. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Oh I understand how it would work with thin lams. And with perfectly flat thick pieces just to hold them together tight while glue cures. But you aint bending 3/4 plywood very much with that plastic. Although I may be missing something.
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You are absolutely correct on that account, Stic. But then again you would not be bending 3/4" ply with any method, unless you streamed or soaked it first to make it flexible, in which case you could then vacuum bend it.
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But you can bend it for forms wih screws.
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Stic we discussed this a few years back with psi in an air hose... I don't think you grasp how much pressure there is when you spread it out over a larger area... If done correctly I would think that you could easily snap a piece of 3/4 " plywood under a vacuum...
Here is an experiment for you to comprehend this chit... Take two pieces of 2x4's and cut them 10"... Round all the corners so that they are not sharp... Stack them on top of one another and put then in a trash bag... Make sure there are no holes in the bag... Take your shopvac hose and insert it in the opening of the bag... Take a zip tie or hose clamp and secure the hose to the bag... Turn on the shop vac and suck the air out... Now grasp each 2x4 and try to pull them apart...
Keep in mind that there is only about 1 to 2 lbs of suction going on which is about 35 to 70 lbs squeezing those blocks together... Use a real vacuum pump at 8 to 10 psi or more and you will have roughly 280 to 350 lbs squeezing those blocks together...
Just another note... If I would have enclosed the granite slab with the wood I was using inside of the bag, I would have not needed the weights to hold things flat... That bag would have sucked that wood right down to the granite... Which would actually be more effective...
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Here's the way I see it; screw pierces plastic, hydraulic press crushes screw, plastic encapsulates hydraulic press. :bigsmyl:
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Made a string jig out of scrap oak.
Looks great Jim !
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I was able to get a few hours in at the bench today and almost got it bending.
Hopefully I will get it bending and on the caul next weekend.
I am envious of you fellas that have a bandsaw. Lots of shavings.....
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You are doing it right Brian :thumbsup: Feeding wood into machinery isn't really what I would consider fun! I'm convinced the more hand work I do do on a Bow, even if it's only sanding, the better the final product will be.
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""I am envious of you fellas that have a bandsaw. Lots of shavings.....""
I'm envious of you guys with the patience to make it all by hand without power tools …..
Rock on man!!
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You are doing it right Brian
Feeding wood into machinery isn't really what I would consider fun! I'm convinced the more hand work I do do on a Bow, even if it's only sanding, the better the final product will be.
Flem,
You are right, the amount of hand work usually correlates to a better end product. I do enjoy the process but I also start to get excited about the potential of the bow once the ring is chased and the bow is staring back at me through my layout lines.
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""I am envious of you fellas that have a bandsaw. Lots of shavings.....""
I'm envious of you guys with the patience to make it all by hand without power tools …..
Rock on man!!
Thanks Kenny. My patience has grown by leaps and bounds over the last several years........My 7yr old twin girls have definitely helped me with that.
~Brian
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Cool! Looks like you are going with some light color woods. And green glass :laughing:
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Looks great. :)
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Damn Stic! Thats really nice looking. Did you color the maple or is that natural?
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On the maple I put some purple Trans Tint in a gallon of denatured alkyhaul. Then pulled a vacuum on it 3-4 hours and let it soak overnite. It takes a long time to get the MC back down so do it way ahead of time.
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Looks Great Stic... Nice lines... Did you ever try that vacuum experiment?? You won't know if you don't try... ;)
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Sweet combo Mike !
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How long is she Mike? And Lightning strike? You know Roy has had some of those... ;)
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This one came out 57 in.
Yep I know ole Elroy had lightening strike :scared: where is that smarty pants anyway?
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What experiment Shredd.
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I like this design crooked stick. Looks like mine with 60 ». Can’t wait to see it finished
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Nice lines
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Thats a fine looking Bow :thumbsup: Your Pom-Poms even match the Bow accents! Did you use Maple in the limbs also?
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Actionboo.Thanks I was gonna do Pink Pom-poms but ole Elroy and Kenny might come steel it from me. :laughing:
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I really like it stic. :thumbsup:
Tell me about the whoop de doo (reflex) at the end of the butt wedge. :)
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Sort of not planned .shape. Dont think it will be an issue. It shoots good and pretty nice full draw profile.
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Pretty bow, I wish I could shoot like that.
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Tkx Dean. That was about 15 yrds. It will get bigger as I back up most times :bigsmyl:
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Ok. I was looking at the full draw the other day kinda in the dark. So decided to put the stick on it. The hump next to the wedge is a little too much for good looks. And would not be hard to get out. (Another form ) it aint pretty ay full draw. But has good string angle shoots good and zero hand shock. Sooo dont know if I will change it.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190820/abe4bb53e7f983e12a02e56a65a6a6af.jpg)
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Mike aren't you worried that hinge is in a spot where there is lots of stress???
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Well itis not a hinge. It is a bit of a hump and is past the fade. I think I will go ahead and redo the from. I think it will lose some stability tho.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190820/df8812a3787d30f5ec33062fe8959b51.jpg)
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Getting ready for a glue up.
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Watcha ya got glued up Mark ??
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60” Recurve
Glue up tomorrow
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60” Recurve
Glue up tomorrow
You still doing the static tips?
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No Brad
I made enough of those for now.
This one may be a little static/working recurve.
Narrow like a D/R
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Looking forward to seeing that one !
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Put 11 new bearings and a new blade on my bandsaw , then adjusted the fence a smidge because when the blade starts losing the new edge, the bearing away from fence starts turning sometimes a bit...
Now she is ready to roll!! :)
Oh, a lot of the bearings were OK but I have extras now....
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No Brad
I made enough of those for now.
This one may be a little static/working recurve.
Narrow like a D/R
Well then, I am posting this pic of this form for the next limbs that I will be working on... Then you can't call me a copy-cat... :goldtooth:
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what kind of radius do you have at the recurve part :)
nufin like mine :dunno:
way to go, stic :thumbsup:
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It is 8"... Looking forward to what you come up with... Posted mine in case they were very similar... ;) :laugh:
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No body's on here, So no body's doing nufin today!
:dunno:
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I am in Indy WNBA game
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I made a lot of progress on my new form today. It’s a Bingham’s 62” hybrid. I think making the form is my least favorite part of this hobby. Lams arrive in a couple days!
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I use .040 glass and contact cement on all my forms !
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Well I learned something new! I did not know contact cement would take high temps. I believe Ritchie said his heat blanket gets too 190deg.
You can use most anything smooth and flat to cover your form. Formica/laminates work real good. Sheetmetal, roofing trim, aluminum, etc. I have used whatever I can scrounge for free. Thin slats of wood are good also, just countersink the screw heads and fill with bondo.
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That was kennys tip to me it works great if you need to adjust it I use the heat gun and 250 Deg F with the infrared thermometer but even at that it takes a lot of pressure to move !
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I use a .060 parll. Lam on the form. And paste wax on that just in case any glue gets on it. I have painted some of my forms also.
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Got some goodies over the weekend.
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I use a Formica strip on my forms as well. I was asking because I have lots of dried epoxy running down the sides of my other form. I may try the paste wax to prevent that on this one. Thanks for the input y’all.
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Plastic wrap before the glueup is placed on the form may prevent that. :bigsmyl:
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Looks like you got some nice figured woods there Stic. What's the dark brown stuff in the first pic?
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What's the dark brown stuff in the first pic?
Looks like some kind of accident:)
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I always kind of figured Stic was a "regular" guy.
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Roy I guess you was thinkin Do Do wood :laughing: Its Claro walnut
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Got the riser for the wife’s bow ready today. She liked the design of the swap bow I did and wanted something similar. She liked the three stripes. Said great things come in threes. Wind, earth, and water. And our three kids.
I’m leary of the cherry riser. But it’s from a tree at the house where she grew up. So we’re gonna try it. I’m gonna back it with a stout fiberglass powerlam and hope for the best.
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With the laminating and the power lam you will be fine.
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That is nice, Brad..
Gotta agree with Max, it will be fine with the laminating and the power lam.
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What they said unless she is shootin 90# :)
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Brad shoots 35 and she shoots 65...
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Better let her have the G10 bow then... LOL
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Shooting for 30-35#.
And 55# is enough for me. I don’t get to shoot often enough for any more than that.
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Prepped all day for my stinkin' friend Dorian... Now that I have all the basics done I am gonna start wrapping all my tools and bow making jigs in plastic in case I lose the roof... I live on the east coast in the middle of the state of FL... Its gonna be close... If I don't pull through its been nice knowing Y'all... :shaka:
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Stay safe shreddy :pray:
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Stay safe. Not worth risking anything.
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Surf's up. I don't envy you Shredd. I can't even imagine the kind of wind and waves associated with Hurricanes.
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Stay safe bro!
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Be cool Shreddy.
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I love fried green tomatoes and as I am going to have to take my tomato plants down in a week or so for a collard/kale patch I am trying different ways to preserve them for future use.
Yesterday it was can and dehydrate. I will add the dried ones to fried okra for that green tomato taste.
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:thumbsup: Eric...
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Those look fantastic Eric!
Late summer/early fall as the tomato plants start to fall off was always the time to make Chow Chow for my family. For those not in the know... Chow Chow is chopped up green tomatoes, onion and spices, sweetened with brown sugar, pickled and then hot canned. We ate it on everything (crackers, toast, etc.). It is fantastic to add a spoonful to beans to go along with cornbread.
Eric, you have me eyeing my tomato plants in the back yard now... even though we still may have a month of production on our late season varieties I may need to go pick some green ones.
OkKeith
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Our grocery store actually sells green tomatoes all year round:)
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We used to pick all the tomatoes that were left just before the first frost and spread them out on a sheet of cardboard in a dark room in the basement. They would continue to ripen slowly through the fall. One year we had lots. We ate garden tomatoes into January.
My mom used to make chow chow. Good stuff.😃
Dave.
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That's good to know, Roy... Can you pick me up a couple and ship them down... :biglaugh:
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Yes I can, Shreddy..
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Them Maters look pretty yummy.
I think I got this last limb design looking good. The first lumpy one work ok but may not have been accepted. See the difference.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/62e2a177f189e8c09e95aef1c8e54c88.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190905/826ce77884ab251dea3db5c823df7977.jpg)
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Making some lam keepers for bow forms... If I know I am gonna have to make something again I usually make 4 times as many... It's a PITA but it pays off in the long run...
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Looks good stic :thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
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The next one needs a tip wedge.
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Tied on a new knock set today. Counting down the days!
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Made, or I guess I should say, I modified/hacked a thrift store toaster oven into a tempering oven. Going to experiment with some different steels for broadheads. I've always used 1084 in the past, but wanted to try some more exotic stuff. .
This was a really easy mod. I already had the 120V PID controller box (thanks again to Skeeter) so all I had to do was gut the oven controls, insert thermocouple, connect 2 sets of 2 wires and plug it in. I did fully insulate it with some left over rock wool and added a 15a fuse. Holds heat really well. Total cost; $3.25. Thats my favorite kind of project.
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Yer gonna lectricute yerself there Inesteine, or burn dah barn down:)
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Yer gonna lectricute yerself there Inesteine, or burn dah barn down:)
:biglaugh: I think you meant Einstein :saywhat:
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Inesteine wuz close enuff:)
I made it up and here it is a word. LOL
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Sweet... Love mods...
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Flem... I'm not sure that work environment is flame retardant to OSHA standards. Then again I am the guy who runs a table saw, big ol' belt sander, box fan, radio and Lava Lamp on the same 30 amp circuit in my garage. Oh, and a deep freezer too.
OkKeith
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You guy's can call me Jethro Einstein. Thats funny Roy, when you do a search for "Inesteine", all the hits are for Einstein!
Looks scary eh? :goldtooth:
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I dry fired a bow today! Got the weight down to within a couple pounds of the final draw weight and decided to draw it to my anchor position (at 30.5”). Instincts must’ve kicked in because as soon as I got it to anchor I released it. Immediately, I went into panic mode but luckily everything held together just fine! Phew, could’ve been bad.
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I dry fired a bow today! Got the weight down to within a couple pounds of the final draw weight and decided to draw it to my anchor position (at 30.5”). Instincts must’ve kicked in because as soon as I got it to anchor I released it. Immediately, I went into panic mode but luckily everything held together just fine! Phew, could’ve been bad.
Not funny, but I had to laugh.
My daughter did that once with a compound as I was trying to adjust draw length for her. Of course I asked her “WTF are you doing?” The look on her face was priceless and all she could muster was “oops”. I couldn’t even be mad, just had to laugh.
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Very neat mod Flem particularly the $$ , I still have my PID components setting in a box maybe winter !
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Well doing something different .making some limbs for a well known recurve I wont name. Anyhow it has curves in the wedge tips. So had to make a couple of jigs to get that done.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/8dbb5a12d89d024ad89ef00bccf618a5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/300451dd7f02ff480069ef307337be06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/71fc2cf1f8fd0f7c2851cf4de37d27bb.jpg)
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"Inesteine"
"difderent"
Youse guys is moiderin the language.
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This may be some pretty good stuff I found at Menards today. And a bit cheaper than Gorilla.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190907/3a207afee7654f1c9d882865df07d92e.jpg)
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Had a bit of fun today and made myself a table saw. With a bit of tweaking and a new blade I think it will be good enough to try cutting some lam blanks (gotta make a drum sander then....), but certainly good enough to square up rough sawn or round timber to take to a mate who has a good saw to make lams. For gits and shiggles I ran some doug fir through and made up some square strips to run through my dowel maker. Unfortunately the longest I can get out of the timber is ~28" and with a 28.5-29" draw length it looks like I'll be doing some footing to get them long enough. Good thing I've got a supply of Osage and other hardwood to make the footings with though! First real job will be to slice up some ply to make a cross cut sled.
Worked on my Osage self bow as well, but at the current rate it will take to 2050 to get finished. I vacillate between a scraper and a farriers rasp reducing the limb thickness at the moment but at least I don't end up with orange snot with the scraper :laughing: Nearly at a point a I can put a string on it so I can stand back and get a good look at it.
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Working on those dehydrated green tomatoes, Eric...
Sprinkled black pepper and seasonal seasoning on them...
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oooohh that looks good!
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Heck with drying them...I was waitin on somebody to post a good SIMPLE chowchow recipe. That sounds good. :goldtooth:
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fried green tomatoes :jumper:
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Okay so I got a masonry blade for the table saw today. Big Jim had mentioned using them for triming the excess off limbs when profiling. Works pretty darn good and quicker than changing bandsaw blades. Also for S and Gs I sliced G 10 with it seemed to do good there to.
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Didn't happen wifout pichers!
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I've thought about doing that on my table saw, but was worried about all the super fine dust they produce.
My saw has lame dust collection.
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I have one for my table saw. Works good. Mine is used in the driveway so dust collection is not a thing.
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Mike what type of masonry blade did you use? Diamond?
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Diamond yes. for cutting bricks and concrete blocks.
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Roy , we don’t even tell you all our really secret methods . Afraid ya might blow a gasket bro... LOL
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I'm bout outta gaskets here:)
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I was playing on the computer a couple of days ago when I heard a crack followed by a crash. Naturally I knew something had fallen and I hoped it didn't get my shop, it didn't.
5 years ago I would have enjoyed turning this monster into firewood, today, not so much. It is almost 36" across the base.
It is 95 today, no tree cutting will go on. I will probably use the loader on my tractor to get the top out of my yard and haul off the bigger stuff one stick at a time after the weather cools off. It broke off several trees in its path as well.
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Time to take the summer garden out and put out winter greens; first the tomato cages, then the plastic, okra, lots of fence posts and it is ready to till. I made one last picking before I dismantled things.
Got egg on my face on this one, my tractor quit, would restart and run a while and quit again. I was sure it was a safety switch and called the dealer, they sent a guy out to get the tractor. It turned out to be out of fuel, the display is kinda' week and I was looking at the wrong set of bars thinking I had half a tank, DUH.
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Not too shabby:)
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Thats some wild looking wood there Stic!
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Besides going to work..
I spent an hour in the garage this evening working on my bow that I got from Two Tracks Outdoors. It's a "u-finish" bow that needs a good bit of work to make it truly functional. I got a good start on the handle tonight. I'm pretty happy with the way it's looking so far. I'm hoping to spend another hour on it tomorrow night.
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Chris, didn't happen wifout pichers.
LOL
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yeah pichers be nice.
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Chris, didn't happen wifout pichers.
LOL
I can't get pics to load. I don't have a hosting service and not looking to obtain one.
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If ya took them with a cell phone, they will be too large a file size.
Cell phones take humongous size pictures.
Go into the camera setting of the phone and chose the smallest size picture it will take.
Then try again.
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If ya took them with a cell phone, they will be too large a file size.
Cell phones take humongous size pictures.
Go into the camera setting of the phone and chose the smallest size picture it will take.
Then try again.
I’ll try and put some up tonight when I get home.
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Eric... you sure that's OKRA? ;)
Funny story...
Back when I was younger (and thinner) I was a Park Manager level IIII with the Oklahoma Parks Service. This came along with a law enforcement commission through the State Protective Services Division. We were considered an "urban" park since the whole thing was in the Norman city limits but the park had almost 2,000 wooded acres and about 100 miles of shoreline around the lake. We were bordered by private and tribal land. Sometimes folks would "plant gardens" on our side of the fence and grow some not so legal plants.
As one of the few State Commissioned LEOs in the county my Rangers and I would get coopted to help the State Bureau of Narcotics when they flew the area by helicopter. A pretty cool opportunity. One year I heard a story about a team that was running their part of the grid when the pilot winged-over and said on the radio that he thought he saw a grow. We did this in the hottest, driest part of the summer since the grows were usually watered and showed bright green.
I guess the whole incident ended up with the LT deep in a conversation with a little old lady and trying to explain why heavily armed men were pulling up her okra plants... with OKRA PODS ON THEM. OOPS!
That was many moons (and pounds) ago... good times.
OkKeith
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Let me know if you see this.
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Looking good, Bully!
Nice shape on the grip and I love the green glass.
OkKeith
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Yes... Does look good...
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Yes... Does look good...
Looking good, Bully!
Nice shape on the grip and I love the green glass.
OkKeith
Thanks y'all.
OkKeith, the glass isn't green. He dyed the lams (curly maple) green for me.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Thank you.
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That is going to look fantastic, Bully!
I bet the dyed grain gives a good "camo" pattern. Take your time so that it turns out well... but hurry a little so we can see it. :bigsmyl:
OkKeith
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That is going to look fantastic, Bully!
I bet the dyed grain gives a good "camo" pattern. Take your time so that it turns out well... but hurry a little so we can see it. :bigsmyl:
OkKeith
I’m doing my best.
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Went through some old stuff today and found 11 of these old Bear glassfiber hunting arrows. Some nasty broadheads.
They are marked Kodiak .411 supreme.
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Nock end.
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Nice find, Bue..
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I had some of those back around '71. They were marked 409. Flew nicely but they had a tendency to split on the tips. Didn't take much to split em. Still have a few in a box somewhere.
Are you going to use them?
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Cool find Bue :thumbsup:
I like those old fiberglass shafts. Some of them had some heft to them.
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No, I am not going to use them. Bowhunting is not allowed here in Norway.
I guess I could try them with field points.
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No, I am not going to use them. Bowhunting is not allowed here in Norway.
I guess I could try them with field points.
Get your gear together and come on over.
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And there you have it >>>-------------> the trad way!!
Mike, they don't allow bow hunting here either... LOL -- JK
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Reply #1556 on: September 23, 2019, 08:30:52 PM
Ya wuz up pretty late last night there pap pap:)
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I planted a little food plot down in the woods about 50 yards from my deck. I put an electric fence around it to keep the deer out of it until the wheat gets about a foot tall. Without the fence the deer will pull up the seedlings roots and all as soon as it comes up and leave bare ground.
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hmmm... fifty yards would be too long a shot for me! :)
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Just finished Dowling out some hickory for form pegs. Stronger than oak and way cheaper. Also makes great firestarter. :)
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I have one closer.
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Monterey, those square ends make good blunts and small game heads on an arrow. Just round the corners a little and cut to desired length. I made a few a couple of years ago from some walnut shafts someone gave me.
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Damn Pat, that's an excellent idea :thumbsup: Going to have to try that.
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Great idea. I'm going to pick up a piece of poplar and put a few together. Thanks for bringing that up.
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Very nice, Mike..
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Pretty fancy looking there Stic :thumbsup: Going to have to look up diamondwood now!
Don't know who is the more prolific Bowyer, you or Shredd
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ME of course. :bigsmyl:
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Getting ready for a trip to Denmark?
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Pretty handsome looking riser there Stic...
Roy... Don't scare me like that...
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Roy ya must love me bein you save my pic :laughing:
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Well guys sorry I haven’t been around much as of late. Kids started school and sports. Wrecked my shoulder 2 weeks ago and can’t shoot a bow currently. However picked a new hobby that doesn’t require as much shoulder strain for the time being.
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Mix of obsidians, Keokuk and Dacite. Should have some cool points to share in a few weeks.
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Dang, Cody..
Hope ya mend up fast.
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He'll be back in a few weeks with bloody fingers to go along with his other maladies. :laughing:
Not laughing at your misfortune, Cody.
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Got this one done today. Hand rubbed to 3000 grit. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190927/e92b4bb9f5b88f763a0bd33c3d880f65.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190927/9a3f8b0e0a942b53a4d566322bfdb008.jpg)
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A real beauty you made there, stunning finish.
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That's a pretty bow there Mike :thumbsup:
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Looks to be your finest yet, Mike..
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:o Nice one stic :)
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Beautiful work there!
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I am not real fond of doing this type of finish. I started with 600 grit wet after top coats. Pretty easy to sand thru the finish on any corners. Then 1500 wet. Next I got an automotive buffing pad H&L. the grit is imbedded in a foam like material keeping it wet you can get pretty aggressive with it still careful on the corners. Then 3-4 coats of paste wax.
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Nice one Mike!!
The plan for today is to start a couple 2 piece TDs for my son and his buddy. They want to come up and build them so will get to see them several times this fall!!
I haven't done but a couple of these, will hard maple be enough for the I beam or is phenolic better?
I'm thinkin the maple is as strong as phenolic...
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Big Jim might be one to ask that question to... How many lbs are the bows gonna be?? That is a factor...
I made a shorter version of the limbs I built a few weeks ago... I am going to make a 60" string to fit the new limbs and then run her through the chrony... She is 42.5 # and I am hoping to get 190 fps with 410 gr. arrow...
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Wow Stic, that's a piece of art you made. :thumbsup:
You are a brave man doing the power rub! I would be scared to do what you did on anything but a big flat surface. You ever tried rottenstone and oil rub?
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I think I already complimented you on another site... Don't wanna give you too big of a head...
Oh, what the hell... She looks Gorgeous Mike... Good job...
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I have heard of the rotten stone but never tried it. And yeah you got to check often and stop when the peel goes away.
Kenny what wood on the outsides ? Not an expert but would think phenolic is stronger. The maple should be fine with outer good wood if ya dont get carried away really high poundage.
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Probably around 47ish on a 64" bow. I'm thinkin bubinga for I beam also as it is stout...
Guys will be here today to pick riser woods and maybe glue em up...
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Yes sir bubinga will work. I have used bloodwood also and ipe.
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Made myself a proper card scraper holder from some Red Gum from an old railway sleeper and sharpened(?) up my current scraper last w/e - what a difference!!!! Easy curls from fine shavings through to ripping it off, I was amazed at how quickly it will take wood off with a bit of elbow grease and the proper angle.
This past w/e I made a shaving horse from scrap around home - re-cycled Red Gum sign for the seat and railway sleeper arms, prunings from our own Apple, Peach, Nectarine and some Wattle trimimngs from the folks place for the legs, footrest etc. I made up a higher clamp position to tackle full size staves in the future.
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Feel a little like someone I heard talking about their own CNC mill and lathe - 'it's nice making new or fixing parts to fit the machine' - I can now take my time and make up some nice tight fighting pieces with ease and re-build or make another. Just need a bit of padding on the seat, my bony behind needs a bit of padding for comfort :biglaugh:
Steve
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Thats a nice looking horse you made :thumbsup: And all from free scrap, even better :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Cool bow bench...
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Thanks guys, it’s one of those things that I look back and say “why didn’t I do this aaaaages ago?” as it makes it so much easier compared with a vice like I was using.
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yeah definitely got to build one like that great idea.
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Well, the guys didn't make it last weekend but are sposed to this weekend. Sooo….
I ordered one of these to help with the inletting on the wrap area...
https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-Variable-Speed-1-x-30-Belt-6-Disc-Sander/G0864
Also some 40 grit discs and belts for it. Hope it works!!
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I opened up a surprise package today,
I spent my life 40 some years, working wood, sanding and shaping, the weirder the more I liked working it,
shaping,sanding, and caressing It (whipping off the saw/sanding dust) then watching the weirdness POP as I put the finish on it,
putting my heart and soul into it, only to have my bosses sell it,,but that's life, and I done got paid well for it,
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I almost got a woodie, when I saw the wood from Kenny,
Gorgeous Flaming Lines, Matched sets,
I can't wait to start Playing with it,
The bow limb package---get yr mind out of the gutter :biglaugh:
This one stays Home, Until it gets willed to my daughter Then her Daughter as a Family Heirloom
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cheers
John
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I almost got a woodie, when I saw the wood from Kenny,
Gorgeous Flaming Lines, Matched sets,
I can't wait to start Playing with it,
Getten Old wood from Old Kenny just scares the hell out of me...
You are on your own..
LMFAO
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Flaming & woodie in the same paragraph scares me :o. :bigsmyl:
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Im not skered, I was in the coast guard,,I seen water burn and lived,IN 60 foot seas, at that,
and I walked home from skool in 4 feet of snow as a kid, :biglaugh:
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All that didn't happen wifout pichers...
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I opened up a surprise package today,
I spent my life 40 some years, working wood, sanding and shaping, the weirder the more I liked working it,
shaping,sanding, and caressing It (whipping off the saw/sanding dust) then watching the weirdness POP as I put the finish on it,
putting my heart and soul into it, only to have my bosses sell it,,but that's life, and I done got paid well for it,
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I almost got a woodie, when I saw the wood from Kenny,
Gorgeous Flaming Lines, Matched sets,
I can't wait to start Playing with it,
The bow limb package---get yr mind out of the gutter :biglaugh:
This one stays Home, Until it gets willed to my daughter Then her Daughter as a Family Heirloom
Brother, you’ve got the sickness real bad! I should know, I can’t walk past a gnarly old tree without wondering what’s inside.
Dave.
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cheers
John
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A speed reader would have gleaned from that post; caressing whipping weirdness flaming woodie playing with it.
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All that didn't happen wifout pichers...
:wavey:
Some of it I’ll take his word for. I don’t need to see pitchers :nono:
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There's a lot of old wood on this forum.
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This program is rated G
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Kenny that will be nice for the front and belly. I do the sides with my table saw.
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I have one of those, Kenny.
Use the belt an awful lot.
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We are talkin about the sander now? LOL
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Was there ever any doubt in your mind ?
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:dunno: Now what was this Thread about :saywhat:
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LOL and the sander is here .
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Im still ogling my new wood,
and thinking curved thoughts about My riser Glue Up, Side to side?
Or
maybe just a Front to Back Sandwich Approach
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LOL and the sander is here .
Didn't happen wifout pichers............................
Yer old enuff ta know dat son...........................
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Made a third pair of limbs for this experimental bow I been working on... Gluing on limb tips and will be testing it for performance later today... I stiffened up the last 5-6" on these limbs... The curves are now pretty static... The DFC looks great... I got real low numbers in the mid part of the chart... That usually means stiffer outer limbs... Which was sorta expected... We will see if that translates into better performance... Or Not... Lol...
With my R/D bows too stiff or too long of a stiff area on the outer limbs gives you a smoother draw but usually lacks a little in performance...
What are some of your views on static vs working recurve?? Which one is better shooting and which gives better performance??
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I think the very best recurve design will always beat the very best static design.
Just my opinion from shooting. I've never built either type!
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I think working recurves are smoother to shoot, but I am biased toward long and limber :goldtooth:
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I think the very best recurve design will always beat the very best static design.
Hmmm... What exactly does that mean??
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Static does nothing for performance.
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We need some test's :cheesy:
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What are some of your views on static vs working recurve?? Which one is better shooting and which gives better performance??
Was my answer to that question. A great performing static can outperform a poor performing recurve. But I think a top performing recurve will always outperform a top performing static.
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Is that because of more working limb?
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What are some of your views on static vs working recurve?? Which one is better shooting and which gives better performance??
Was my answer to that question. A great performing static can outperform a poor performing recurve. But I think a top performing recurve will always outperform a top performing static.
I am assuming you mean static as in static recurve tips and recurve as in working recurve tips...
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I went and got me some MDF at home depot and a nice chunk of oak, oh and another router bitt,
so now i can start making my template and form,
DANG,,as im typing this I figured (brain farted) I need me some metal strips and some light cord,
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what size light cord??
Ive already got my dowels, Oh ya this is gonna be a rubber band Form,
thanks
John
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Here ya go Elroy
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Open and take some sander porn pics :thumbsup:
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I went and got me some MDF at home depot and a nice chunk of oak, oh and another router bitt,
so now i can start making my template and form,
DANG,,as im typing this I figured (brain farted) I need me some metal strips and some light cord,
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what size light cord??
Ive already got my dowels, Oh ya this is gonna be a rubber band Form,
thanks
John
I use 1/8” aluminum and the cheap two strand lamp cord.
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I went and got me some MDF at home depot and a nice chunk of oak, oh and another router bitt,
so now i can start making my template and form,
DANG,,as im typing this I figured (brain farted) I need me some metal strips and some light cord,
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what size light cord??
Ive already got my dowels, Oh ya this is gonna be a rubber band Form,
thanks
John
I use 1/8” aluminum and the cheap two strand lamp cord.
what thickness lamp cord, my local hardware sell it off the rolls, does it matter? what hight? the cord is?
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Cool beans, Kenny...
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:laughing: :laughing: I figured this was gonna be a different sander :bigsmyl:
old fart what are you using the cord for??
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Hey Kenny let us know how you like that ? Im thinking of getting one , the variable speed is nice !
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The armadillo wars start today, they can play around in my yard but once they migrate into my winter garden their lives are in peril, more to follow.
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The armadillo wars start today, they can play around in my yard but once they migrate into my winter garden their lives are in peril, more to follow.
Won't your arrows bounce off them?? :laugh:
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Maybe with your glass bows, Shreddy.
But Eric makes real all wood osage bows:):
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:laughing: :laughing: I figured this was gonna be a different sander :bigsmyl:
old fart what are you using the cord for??
on the form, im doing the rubber band method,
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Started on my form, MDF rough cut and glued up, spread out the glue with advertisement credit cards,,those things are usefull.
MDF is 3/4--REAL 3/4---so ive got my 1.5 thickness
checked for flatness and square with a level, a non-dropped-bent-twisted level :biglaugh:
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rough cut the form in 3/16 ply, need to sand to the lines, It will be the jig for my router
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cost 12 bucks so far in materials glue and MDF
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Hi everybody. Im new here, although I have been reading trad gang for so many years I feel like I know many of you like you were neighbors.
By the way, Eric, like myself, also have a few long stinky poles with bad smoking habits. Armadillos beware. :o
I was also wondering what is a winter garden? Here in Vermont it’s a starter flat under a grow light next to the wood stove.
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Well it looks like you are on your way... No turning back now... Good luck...
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Started on my form, MDF rough cut and glued up, spread out the glue with advertisement credit cards,,those things are usefull.
MDF is 3/4--REAL 3/4---so ive got my 1.5 thickness
checked for flatness and square with a level, a non-dropped-bent-twisted level :biglaugh:
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rough cut the form in 3/16 ply, need to sand to the lines, It will be the jig for my router
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cost 12 bucks so far in materials glue and MDF
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Check the curves on template with a flexible ruler or a pc of glass against the light to find any flats or bumps before you rout the form. Some you won't see til you spray the bow. Don't even ask how I know...:)
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Depending on where you store the form and the humidity and temperature swings, the MDF might be inclined to swell. A couple coats of paint might be a good thing!
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Depending on where you store the form and the humidity and temperature swings, the MDF might be inclined to swell. A couple coats of paint might be a good thing!
Good advice! I always soak the stuff with shellac, as much as it will absorb. If you do coat it, be sure not to use anything water based.
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Welcome Bob! Careful, you might become addicted... 😜
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Got sander unpacked and tables installed. The tables go to 90 degrees very well. 40 grit belts and discs came in mail Saturday but bow builders didn’t . LOL
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Got sander unpacked and tables installed. The tables go to 90 degrees very well. 40 grit belts and discs came in mail Saturday but bow builders didn’t . LOL
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NICE sander
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The MDF prolly be okay with the rubber band form but have seen them break with air hose.
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Nice sander..
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New sanding toys
Neato
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I spent Saturday even at my 50th class reunion in Savannah, GA. See if you can pick me out...
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I went to Benedictine Military School in Savannah, a Catholic, military highschool. My Dad graduated in 1919, I in 1969. My brothers, uncles and cousins all graduated from Benedictine.
The day I graduated was the last time I shaved.
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Dang it, my monitor screen just cracked after that picture:)
Them guys are so old they had to put name tags on em so they could be claimed:)
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I got most of my bows in one spot now.
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Pat, verrry difficult to say, but must be the one with an arrowhead as belt buckle. :biglaugh:
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Roy, I count six glass bows. OUCH.
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You win the prize, Bue. :thumbsup:
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5 Bue.
Bottom one is Yew/boo.
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Where’s the fancy new pink one with rabbit fur grip???
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LOL, it's around:)
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I would like to see that pink bow Roy didn't happen with out pics :cheesy: Kenny please give us a working report on that sander when you get around to it I been eye balling that one for a while !
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Dang, my laptop screen just broke!
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LOL, knock it off Kenny 4runr:)
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And look hanging on the wall is the dress he wears when he shoots it.
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That dress would clash with the pink chaps.
Dave.
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Looks like a nice group, Pat. Can't believe you have not shaved in 50yrs! If you ever go on the Lam, shave it and you will never be ID'd.
Got to say, that pink bow has a nice arc to it for a long riser ASL. Must be something special about it Roy, cause your gripping it like you have a intimate relationship :bigsmyl:
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Ok
That will be nuff O dat ladies.....
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Glued up a Lignostone RD with Bloodwood powerlam.
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Holy Crap Bue! I don't think I have ever seen that many clamps in use at once :o
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Bue
show us a few more pictures after you get it finished :thumbsup:
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Flem, he said longbow.
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Yup Bue, more pictures.
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Clamps off and cleaned off on the sides.
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I think the red Bloodwood powerlam goes well with the dark Lignostone. Handle comes next.
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The bloodwood is pretty neat stuff and fairly stiff.
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Give us some specifics on that Lignostone wood
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Never heard of Lignostone before. Interesting stuff. The MOR,MOE and crushing strength are all similar to Osage. It's like plywood on steroids.
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Lignostone is densified Beech wood. Somehow a synthetic resin have been applied and the wood have been compressed (with heat I think)
It makes a wood that have almost no voids in it. The mass weight goes from normal Beech’s 0,71 g/cm3 to 1,35 g/cm3.
The boards I have is solid boards 8mm thick and are 60 years old. Here in Norway the material was used as edges on wood skies.
It is very strong in both tension and compression.
Being so heavy it is probably not the ideal bow wood, but it can be used in designs that most woods can not take.
It is still made today, but only in veneer form and not in the board form that I have.
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Lignostone bow I made some years ago.
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drilled out my form and added dowels, glued up a base for it, its wet from cleaning off excess glue ,,
im thinking maybe I ought to take out the 3rd and forth dowel from the left
and drill 2 larger holes to take "C"-clamps ??
opinions welcome
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John
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John, no big curves on wedges so I think you will be fine with bands. Buuut, I’ve only done one with bands...
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Bue that's a pretty bow, John won't be long before your gluing up ,your form looks good I never did rubber bands only clamps or air hose !
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Awsome looking riser Mike :thumbsup:
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Nice riser. :)
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I guess it's ok:)
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Looks nice stic
how long is that riser?
and Roy said I suppose it's ok verses I guess it's ok :bigsmyl:
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Well thanks an you to Roy. Dont know about you guys but thelast sheet sandpaper I got from Supergrit was junk. So thos stuff more $$ but lasts about. 10 times as long and cuts much better.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191009/b6d8cb0b06c360695103a9612a042b3b.jpg)
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It is 16 in. Bow is 20@20 58 in.
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Don't know about Supergrit, but I agree with you Stic, 3M sandpaper is the best. My local lumber yard used to sell 3M, but for some reason switched to Gator Grit, which is total crap. Now I have to mail order sandpaper sheets!
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Yep 3m for me I use it for my belt sander, last much longer ,really one of those cases you get what you pay for !
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I buy belts from them, but I get the 3M sheets from the big box store
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I just ordered some zirc belts for my 6x80 from the auction site , Red Label brand I think. Green belts and for metal I think but last a long time on there...
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S-Grit sells 3M sheets also.
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Today I put a few final details on a 17 inch riser I made from a pc of walnut leftover from a gunstock blank. Its not a very dense pc of wood and does have some flex to it. But it only supports 25 lbs Sage limbs. That’s about all I can shoot due to shoulder problems.
It all went fine until the finish was put on. I had “preserved” some opened Truoil by storing the bottle in a larger glass jar filled with an oxygen blocker. It looked good; no jelling or film. Unknown to me the drying agents had “escaped” and what should have taken a week took months.
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Nice Bob! Thats a beautiful chunk of Walnut :thumbsup:
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Thanks Flem.
It actually has some nice “rainbow” colored mineral streaks in it the camera did not pick up.
I hope it holds up. Its my first riser so I’m already planning what I would do different on the next one. Like I was told, this is addictive. :thumbsup:
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Very nice, Bob.
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Nice poor mans ebony.
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Got 2 pieces of 1.5X1/16 aluminum strips, and an inner tube today,
Going to glue 1 strip on the Form full length and drill for the dowel-stop ----good idea? Bad Idea?
2cd strip ill glue a lamp cord down the center and cut an inch longer than my bow pieces--right?
thanks
John
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should i sand the aluminum with 600 or 800 grit ? before using?
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will the EA-40 glue the bottom aluminum piece to the form if i use it? or should i go with regular store bought epoxy?
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can I whipe the aluminum with carnauba wax before the glue up?
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john
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Epoxys don't work well on non pourious material the metal needs to be cleaned and etched to get a good bond, It should work for you, I never glued metal with smooth on but have glued metal with other epoxy's ,I use ceramic wax or plain old Johnson wax to wax my form I like to use contact cement to adhere the backing strip that way if it ever gets damage it's easy to replace !
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Today I put a few final details on a 17 inch riser I made from a pc of walnut leftover from a gunstock blank. Its not a very dense pc of wood and does have some flex to it. But it only supports 25 lbs Sage limbs. That’s about all I can shoot due to shoulder problems.
It all went fine until the finish was put on. I had “preserved” some opened Truoil by storing the bottle in a larger glass jar filled with an oxygen blocker. It looked good; no jelling or film. Unknown to me the drying agents had “escaped” and what should have taken a week took months.
I’m calling it done. It shoots good but does need a bit more tuning.
Today I put a few final details on a 17 inch riser I made from a pc of walnut leftover from a gunstock blank. Its not a very dense pc of wood and does have some flex to it. But it only supports 25 lbs Sage limbs. That’s about all I can shoot due to shoulder problems.
It all went fine until the finish was put on. I had “preserved” some opened Truoil by storing the bottle in a larger glass jar filled with an oxygen blocker. It looked good; no jelling or film. Unknown to me the drying agents had “escaped” and what should have taken a week took months.
I’m calling it done. It shoots good but does need a bit more tuning.
How are you holding the limbs in alignment?
Looks good. I like walnut but don't especially trust it!
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I guess I am missing something here. I still dont understand what the lamp cord does.
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Bob, that is a good looking riser, it should be ok for the 25# limbs, if you get up around 35-40 , then walnut needs an i beam or al least some accent stripes in it IMO.
Mike, think the lamp cord holds the middle of the pressure strip down on a band form. Needs it cause the bands put all the pressure on the edges when you pull em down so need the cord in middle to help squeeze the glue out a bit.
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Thats a nice looking little knife, Stic. :thumbsup: I know why you had to have it, the liners are one of your reoccurring colors.
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Hi Monterey,
To hold the limb alignment, I drilled the bottom of the limbs and used a pin of sorts. It’s some industrial thingy I took out of the scrap barrel years ago. (I never throw anything away) I put them in the limb holes and applied a small dab of epoxy to the bottom. I then put the limbs on the bow. I had about five minutes to align them to the riser.
After the epoxy cured I carefully removed the limbs, scribed around the flange, popped it off with a plastic hammer and inlet it into the wood. It all came out much better than I expected, which is unusual for the stuff I dream up. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Thanks Kenny,
I appreciate your comments and I like your numbers. After I got it shaped I started to question its strength. I did a bunch of stress tests that I then compared to the original 19 in. Sage riser. They seemed the same so I continued. I shot it a fair amount before I did the final sanding & finish. So far, all’s well...
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An innovative way to do the alignment.
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Used the sander to grind profile on limbs this morning.
The dust port works very well with the shop vac , better than the old one.
The variable speed makes a lot more diff in grinding speed than I figured. Go fast to rough in and shut er down for getting to line. I like that!
This was with a 60 grit disc on that came on it, I have some 40s to try when this one is done.
One other thing I like is the metal frame at disc edge can be used to run the limb against to keep from any gouging.
Over all I'm liking it very well, but haven't used the 1" wide belt yet...:)
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glued up the beginnings of my riser,
1st time using the glue,,OMG FUN,,dang stuff is sticky like marshmallow + peanut butter sandwich :)
got it hung over the wood stove to dry,
threw another log in and my temps up at 98 deg,
pic was taken before that,
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and thank you Kenny for the info on the phone, good talking to you,
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Kenny the belt may be good for sight windows to.
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Thanks for the report Kenny, I'm thinking like Mike for the sight windows & handles ,I love my 1/2" belt sander for that but the stationary one like Kenny's might be better ! That variable speed is a big plus it sounds like.
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glued up the beginnings of my riser,
1st time using the glue,,OMG FUN,,dang stuff is sticky like marshmallow + peanut butter sandwich :)
got it hung over the wood stove to dry,
threw another log in and my temps up at 98 deg,
pic was taken before that,
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and thank you Kenny for the info on the phone, good talking to you,
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John, you can apply a little mild heat from a blow dryer or heat gun to the EA-40 while you are spreading it around and it will flow a bit easier.
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Good job ya old fart...
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Thanks for the tip Flem, Ill do that next time
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Thanks Roy
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Kenny the belt may be good for sight windows to.
Gonna find out on the bow blank I’m on but I gotta go huntin right now ! :)
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Good luck to all hunting right now. Finally wimped out and went to the doc for my shoulder. Looks like rotator cuff issue. Had X-ray today and MRI next week sometime. No bows for a while for me. I can salvage my season but unfortunately the stories won’t be Trad gang appropriate.
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Ouch Cody.
I been that route.
3 months after surgery before shooting a light weight bow.
Best wishes bud..
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Sorry to hear that Cody. I trashed both my rotator cuffs, years ago rock climbing. They are fine now and have been for many years. Physical therapy is critical, as is flexibility. Still do stretching and exercises daily for them. Never had surgery, too scary for me! :o
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Yeah I hear ya Flem. Surgery was why I was putting off the doc for so long. It had started to feel better but Wednesday I moved just right and could tell something was still very wrong. Being a mechanic I work above my head quite frequently so not sure what’s gonna happen yet.
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Worked on my Osage stave bow - I'm expecting to back it so currently it's technically a self bow but won't end up that way if I get to the finish line.
Pulling about 42-45# @ 24" so I'm close to my aim of 50# @ 28" to make it legal for Sambar deer here. If I'm below I don't really care just hoping for a shooter!
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Still gotta work on getting the inner limb bending some more
As I'm getting close to the pointy end I need some directions for the final push please. There is a slight amount of propeller twist in each limb in opposite directions, plus a bit of snakey action. So far the string hasn't looked like jumping out, so I'm calling it good but I have left the tips wide both to be able to bring the string across if required, or if I need to cut into the sides to keep the string more secure.
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I don't have a top or bottom limb designated yet, I had planned on shooting it both ways and deciding which works better and/or cut/build a small shelf.
Is it worth steaming and straightening out given the string pretty much goes through the middle of the handle? It does have some natural reflex in both limbs at the moment.
Have been surprised how quickly it went from a lump of wood that kinda bent with a string to 'almost' a bow with a proper length string. I reduced the handle length to get some more working limb length which certainly helped plus made it feel a lot less chunky.
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The tiller is a bit off, you will lose a lot of poundage getting it corrected. Have you heard of a tillering gizmo? It is a neat little tool that will tell you exactly where to take wood off your limbs to get them bending correctly. It won't mark the area at the fades so you have to eyeball that area.
A gizmo;
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Prop twist generally isn't a problem with selfbows. I'd bet the thickness of each limb is a bit different from one side of the limb to the other, a very common problem for newer bowyers.
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Eric
as I was finishing for the afternoon and packing up I thought "You're a knucklehad - you were supposed to build a gizmo to help tillering this out!" So first thing this morning that's what I made and it was immediately apparent how helpful it was/will be so thank you!!! Just a quick question or two if I may, I'm assuming reading a couple of your threads that you find the flat spots at each d/l before moving on i.e. get good tiller @ X" before moving onto Y"? Do you scrape with the bow braced or string off? I did a bit of both today and it is quicker with the string on, but sharp edges and taught strings....
Pat
I've aimed for a parallel thickness where possible following the twists across the limb, but there are a couple of spots that I'm out. Where they matched up with flat spots using Eric's gizmo, I tried to flatten the thicker side out as best I could, but I'm sure there's a couple still there and probably will be til it's finished.
Here's where I'm at today, ~40# @ 26"
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Steve, you need to get the area outside of the fades bending more.
But doing so will cause a major weight loss.
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Here are the instructions for a gizmo;
You set your gizmo once on the deepest bend at about 3" of limb bend and use this setting to mark both limbs. I work on all the pencil lines at the same time and don't adjust the gizmo until I move up in brace height or go to the short string and progress to the target weight. I scrape with the bow braced. I scrape with a half pair of scissors, the back of the scissors is rounded and doesn't get into the string.
USING THE TILLERING GIZMO
After floor tillering your bow, bend the bow slightly on your tillering tree or tillering stick, I start at about 3” of bend using the long string. Retract the pencil in the Gizmo and run the wood block up the bow’s belly and find the widest gap. Screw the pencil in the block to a point it is almost touching the bow’s belly at the point where you found the widest gap. It is best to start with a little wider gap between the pencil and limb than what is shown in the picture or you may mark the whole limb instead of just the highest spots. I change the angle the pencil has been sharpened to a very short angle and sand the tip of the pencil flat for the best results in marking the limb. This lets you work very slight bends.
Run the Gizmo up the belly making sure it is centered on the limb. The
pencil will mark non bending areas that need wood removed. Start on the long string; continue at brace and up to about 20” of draw. You do need to have a way to hold your bow string while you mark the limbs with the Gizmo.
I have holes in my tillering tree and insert a 3” piece of dowel in one of the holes to hold the string with the limbs slightly bent while I mark the limbs with the gizmo.
Go slow, no more than ten scrapes on the marked areas of the limb, flex the limb 30 times and recheck. My bow limbs tend to be slightly round belly so the Gizmo only marks the top of the crown on the limbs belly. I scrape the marked area as well as the rest of the limb side to side to keep things even. You can get the limb bending perfectly this way. You will still have to eyeball bending in the fades but the rest of the limb will be perfectly tillered, hinges will be a thing of the past.
I adjust the gizmo one time on the long string and set it to the deepest bend on the weakest limb. I use this setting for both limbs. If you continually adjust the gizmo you will chase weak spots up and down your limb. One adjustment and hold this adjustment until you have removed enough wood to the point that can run the gizmo up both limbs without making a mark. As you increase draw length readjust the gizmo.
Make a few passes with the gizmo on your limb and the areas that need attention will be perfectly obvious. You can fine tune the tillering by closing the gap between the pencil and limb to almost nothing. At this point I like to use a cheap orbital sander to remove both wood and any tool marks that are left. With course sand paper, the sander will leave tiny swirls in the wood so I like 220 grit for my final tillering work and follow with a light hand sanding.
The gizmo doesn’t work in the fade out area of the riser so you will have to eyeball the bend in this area or put a flat board across the back of the bow in your tillering tree and watch the gap between the back of the bow and the board to see where the limb is bending.
Tillering that once took me hours to get close takes me about 45 minutes with the Gizmo and the end result is close to perfect.
Remember the key thing to proper tillering is using a scraper or sand paper for SLOW wood removal, no rasps or belt sanders.
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Got a Jig made up for my chop-saw,
got one side all glued and cut,
working on the other side now,
once dry ill do the finish angle cut of 12deg as specified on the plans, Its on a 15 deg cut now
sitting under my desk with my heater, as I don't have the wood stove going today
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Worked on my jig/form today,
Taking Kenny's advice to get all the speed bumps out of it,
I had some paint and sanding primer left over from another project,
and a "T"-Bar sander I had from when I was into building and crashing RC-Planes :)
painted the jig/form red, let it dry, wet-sanded, then painted with the sanding primer, this is 2 coats of sandable primer,
last coat drying now, On my special drying spot :) (Weight-Hook-Test)
then Ill do a last wet sand with 800 grit
giving me a Glassy, smooth finish I can wax, and hopefully not stick to
cheers all have a good day,
John
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Can you do my car next?
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Yeah, mine too! Farm boy, you might be a little bit obsessed with detail. Actually a good trait in a Bowyer. :) was it hard on a farmer?
I worked on a recurve template today. Would like to say that it's going to be a precise copy of a DH Monterey but it's now looking more like "inspired by". :)
The original suffered a split limb tip secondary to a combination of a kid and a car door. :(
I straightened one line in the riser which should not effect performance. The template has a bit more curve than the original to try to compensate for spring back.
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Can you do my car next?
sure bring it over, with 32,165.00 in cash and ill get right on it :biglaugh:
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Monterey,
I like that riser
what wood did you use?
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Did some wood relief and layout on my riser this morning,
still some pieces to glue up on it and some inlay router work
thoughts welcome
cheers
John
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Not sure how ya'll draw those ellipticals on a picture of a bow, but it defenitley tells you where the bend is good or not.
Could you make an elliptical pattern to measure the bow while on the tillering tree?
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Not sure how ya'll draw those ellipticals on a picture of a bow, but it definitely tells you where the bend is good or not.
It's done with MSPaint program which comes with windows in your PC.
Very easy to do.
Could you make an elliptical pattern to measure the bow while on the tillering tree?
Not really cause every bow is going to be a little bit different.
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Ok, thank you Roy.
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Also Byron you got to remember For them guys that snorted osage and bamboo all those years prolly have Elipticals built in to their bifocals specly the pink chap wearin one. :laughing: :laughing:
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Neuse... As a rule of thumb I keep the first 2/3's coming off the riser the same radius... You use one of those contour gauges to check for consistency of roundness...
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Git yo self one of deez... Guaranteed good results...
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Shredd you got all the cool tools! :thumbsup:
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Monterey,
I like that riser
what wood did you use?
That's the bow I'm copying. It's a vintage Damon Howatt Monterey that suffered a split limb tip. It's just in the picture to compare to the template made to copy the bow.
I don't know what the wood is.
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Flem... Cool tools don't count if you are screwing up... It's the end of the day... I am tired and hungry... I am gonna cut these lams to size while there is light and then glue them up after dinner... After cutting my hyper lams I noticed that one lam was flipped the other way... After lots and lots of choice words I got to thinking... I really did not feel like making another set of lams... I was lucky enough that I had a little over a 1/4" to spare... So I super glued the butt of one lam back on reinforced it with some paper and trimmed to size... Disaster averted... :goldtooth:
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Got to feed the most important tool. Only way it's going to stay sharp :bigsmyl:
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Hmmm never thought of paper cores before :bigsmyl:
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Mike, those are high tech lams:)
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Yes paper is less mass.lol
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That part gets cut off... I just needed the full length for glue-up... But I have actually made paper tip wedges before...
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Went crazy with my drum sander today,
I think the Nor-Easter that headed our way messed my thinking up a wee bit :)
poor limb pads ended up at 3.5 long,,for some dang reason I had a mark there
and DU ,,, sanded right up to the mark,,,glue is my friend,,,repeat,, glue is my friend,
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Now Ive got to mess around with that dang pesky-EVIL-Black-Palm
and fix the mess I've made,
I need a nap,
later all
cheers
John
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Went crazy with my drum sander today,
I think the Nor-Easter that headed our way messed my thinking up a wee bit :)
poor limb pads ended up at 3.5 long,,for some dang reason I had a mark there
and DU ,,, sanded right up to the mark,,,glue is my friend,,,repeat,, glue is my friend,
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Now Ive got to mess around with that dang pesky-EVIL-Black-Palm
and fix the mess I've made,
I need a nap,
later all
cheers
John
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Did you cut the paper template for the riser from the plans kennym sent you?
Looks kind of thin back to belly
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Well Shredd. Paper is wood in a different form. :biglaugh:
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Ya know somepin Crooked-sticky, paper airplanes fly fast too:)
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wanted a drum sander, but I'm too cheap to buy one,
and the one i have on my drill press is a small cheap one, don't like it,
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spent the morning making a Jig, for my 4" belt and disk sander,
I now have a 1/2 drum sander all plum and square wood i used is laminated maple shelving I had laying around,
so its nice and flat, drilled a bunch of holes where the motor sits on the shelving, so it gets air flow
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cheers
John
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Nice Mod... Ditch that motor and put a real motor on there... That one might work for sanding your nails though...
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I can't figure out how that's going to function as a drum sander? Looks like a belt sander on edge.
You are not the only cheap one here!
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Shredd, congratulations! 1000 posts :clapper: You just beat me to it.
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sanded and worked with my Black-EVIL-Palm
made a BIG ooOPS and even with my notes i messed up
got lucky and had enough room to reverse the pattern, my last long chunk of black palm,, so I got real lucky it fit reversed
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cheers,
John
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I can't figure out how that's going to function as a drum sander? Looks like a belt sander on edge.
You are not the only cheap one here!
Shredd, congratulations! 1000 posts :clapper: You just beat me to it.
IM only using it to sand out my curves, probably wrong name,,should have used spindle sander ?
see my last post,
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Yinz's 2 birds would have a lot more than 1,000 posts ifin I did have ta clean up some of them:)
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I like the car jack adjustment post on your gizmo sander Flem :)
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Dammit Roy, I've been robbed of my legacy!
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Flem... What did you use for the drum???
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Thanks Ritchie. It started as a stopgap adjustment, but it works really well, so I kept it.
Shredd, it's 4" sch 80 PVC with 6- 3/4" MDF discs inside, all mounted on 1" linear shaft arbor.
And with that I have reached the milestone!
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You made that?
Dang, all this time I thought you collected "Fred Flintstone artifacts"...
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I was thinking those belt Sander drums we are barrel shaped not flat.That may not be good for a good glue surface is that corian on the car Jack sander.
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Yup come to think about it they are barrel shaped.
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I was thinking those belt Sander drums we are barrel shaped not flat.That may not be good for a good glue surface is that corian on the car Jack sander.
I was thinking the same thing... You better check with a straight edge after sanding... I have a 6 x 48 and sanded the inside 4" of the drum flat... Or use epoxy vs wood glue for a better bond with spaces...
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Yup come to think about it they are barrel shaped.
Just checked mine,,,GRRRRRR yuppers,
BUT I'm only using the bottom half of the barrel :biglaugh:
and everything is getting glued up with the EA-40
soon as i let loose with my clamps ill see what it looks like,
but when i was fitting the pieces they were doing ok, from your house to mine and a few beers
probably end up with some epoxy trim lines,,,oh well, maybe a real sander for X-mass,,,
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You made that?
Dang, all this time I thought you collected "Fred Flintstone artifacts"...
More like Fred Sanford :biglaugh:
I was thinking those belt Sander drums we are barrel shaped not flat.That may not be good for a good glue surface is that corian on the car Jack sander.
It's Granite, or something similar.
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got it all sanded down, need to sand and glue up my last piece before re-cutting to the template,
BUT
I should probably just go ahead and start over, as I do have some faint glue lines, if i look real real close,
I took close up pic of the worst in the curves
like you all said there is an barrel in my sander, :biglaugh:
and this old farts just a farmer :biglaugh:
you tell me
Keep it or toss it ?
cheers
John
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I say keep it simple and concern yourself with a good shooting bow first... You an always get fancy later on...
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I say keep it simple and concern yourself with a good shooting bow first... You an always get fancy later on...
So yr saying I should toss it and star over ?
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As a first try, why did you start with such a complicated and strange looking riser design? I don’t mean to offend you, but like Shredd said keep it simple and you can always get fancy later. :)
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Get you a piece of Granadillo from kennyM, It's plenty hard enough, and purdy too.
square it up , cut your limb pad angles and drill and tap for your limb locking hardware and stop there with the riser.
Then get your limbs made.
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As a first try, why did you start with such a complicated and strange looking riser design? I don’t mean to offend you, but like Shredd said keep it simple and you can always get fancy later. :)
NO offense taken,
went to a telescope gathering once, a long time ago
then went home and ground/polished,fugured a 28inch Diam, chunk of Black-glass into a mirror, and built a mount for it,
could have just bought one, but getting the final wave-length,thickness figure was a challenge I enjoyed
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didn't buy a boat, but built my own with my kids,
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never liked taking the easy road, sure no bumps but,
the hard road was always more interesting, and more lessons learned,
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Yup, IT may look weird but ill learn, the hard way and hey it is different than most I've seen
and all the wood i had on hand from knife and gunstocks ive made
cheers
John
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That's all cool.
But make a simple bow first.
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Carry on oldfart!!
If you enjoy the challenge and are up to it, then go for it. You will have errors and lessons learned. Using fancy wood and fancy designs just makes the lessons come more often and more expensive. :biglaugh:
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John... I guess what we are trying to tell you is that it is challenging enough to just make a 'Plain Jane' bow maybe with some simple accents but make it so that it is vertically and torsionally stable, does not stack, feels good in the hand, shoots accurate and fast enough that your arrow does not bounce off its target... That is your challenge... Trust me it is a handful... Five years and I feel like I just graduated from Greenhorn...
Later on down the line if you want to challenge yourself with looks, Look up Blacktail Bows... If you want to challenge yourself with speed look up WTT3 contest in Pirates of Archery... If you want to challenge yourself with smooth shooting and accurate, Go ask Roy....
He might know somebody... :laughing:
Good Luck buddy... We are all rooting for you...
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If you have a vision of something you really want to do, might as well go for it!
If the finished product isn't up to your expectations, I'm sure it will make a nice gift.
Personally I have no fear of failure, I always expect it as a possibility. How else can anyone innovate?
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Shreddy, lmfao.
John, just proceed with your plan.
We are all behind you dude..
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my curiosity is getting the best of me,
what is it specifically / technically/ engineering wise
that's making it a bad design?
and no I'm not trying to troll, or tick folks off,
I want to learn
cheers
john
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Roy missed yr post as I posted mine, :biglaugh:
but still curious, and ya I've seen what happens to cats when they get curious :)
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Prolly too many pieces in the puzzle needing glued together.
Just go for it, yer already this far.
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John do what you want to do I have always learned a lot from mistakes, Im kinda of a plain Jane fuction guy I keep it simple & if it shoots well Im happy ,Pretty is as pretty does to me but this bow building is suposed to be fun & nobody makes one bow so enjoy & have fun !
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I agree with these guys... Finish what you started and have fun with it... What I said in my earlier post are some basic guide lines that I or some may follow... We are all in this for different reasons and have different approaches... I am curious how that riser is gonna turn out...
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Carry On My Wayward Son, a GREAT song
So, 4 hrs on the sander, Later
were hanging out above my "Oven" "/" Woodstove at 98 deg
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Cheers all
Have a Good Saturday
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I done just named my BOW
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way·ward
/ˈwāwərd/
adjective
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difficult to control or predict because of unusual or perverse behavior.
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I guess it's ok:)
It's gonna smell like beer, wood smoke, and fish though:)
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Carry On My Wayward Son, a GREAT song
So, 4 hrs on the sander, Later
were hanging out above my "Oven" "/" Woodstove at 98 deg
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Cheers all
Have a Good Saturday
Might be a big mistake, but I'm learning to put little doohickys under the clamp feet. Are they a real thing or some kind of bottle cap? I woulda used one more clamp in the middle.
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That black palm looks a lot like wenge.
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Steve, you need to get the area outside of the fades bending more
If you had a dollar for every time....... :biglaugh:
Here are the instructions for a gizmo;
Thanks Eric! Noted for next time.
Worked the fades some more, which dropped it down to ~low 30's# so I piked 1" of each tip (currently 66" NTN) and re-worked a little. Now 43# @ 28. Have shot a few dozen arrows through it and slimmed and shaped the grip a little. Think I'll leave it as is, and move onto the next project as a 30# isn't really useful for me if I really work out the fade area, unless the brains trust thinks a novice can pike another 1" to get it into a useful weight. Might use it as a test bed for finishing, steaming tips etc.
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Carry On My Wayward Son, a GREAT song
So, 4 hrs on the sander, Later
were hanging out above my "Oven" "/" Woodstove at 98 deg
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Cheers all
Have a Good Saturday
Might be a big mistake, but I'm learning to put little doohickys under the clamp feet. Are they a real thing or some kind of bottle cap? I woulda used one more clamp in the middle.
those are the caps off my blood pressure medicine bottles, :pray:
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those are the caps off my blood pressure medicine bottles, :pray:
good reuse! I'm gonna try gatorade caps. :)
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Started working on my next project (boo backed cypress board) and was shaping the plan profile of the board with my drawknife on my shaving horse. My 4yr old came over:
'Can I work with you daddy?'
'Sure thing' (gotta love that!!!)
Kept working away, then:
'Can I use this?' (this being my big farriers rasp)
'Sure, just keep a good hold of it'
More silence, me shaving away not really paying a lot of attention
'Can I pretend this is one of your bows?'
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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Don't steel her design :biglaugh: thats a great pic :thumbsup:
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Here is am update on the dried green tomatoes Roy.
Todays experiment; frying frozen okra with dehydrated green tomatoes and fresh onions.
I poured a handful of dehydrated vacuum sealed green tomatoes into a bowl and covered them with water. It only took a minutes or so for them to rehydrate.
After I breaded my okra I squeezed the water out of the tomatoes and threw them in the bowl with the breaded okra with the leftover flour/meal and gave them a good shake to cover the pieces.
I found the dehydrated tomatoes cooked twice as fast as the partially frozen okra. Although they didn't burn the pieces did become chocolate brown by the time the okra was done as is shown in the picture. Next time I will incorporate them into the mix about the same time I add sliced onion or 75% through the okra cooking process.
The added taste was just like adding fresh green tomatoes to frying okra, wonderful.
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Sounds like a plan, Eric..
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Rough cut and rough sanded some of my Riser,
My sander tried to give up the ghost,
I used my ax to convince it to keep running for awhile longer, (beat it into submission and re-alignment)
but its now missing the 6inch disk :biglaugh:
Ya git what ya pay for, and I dint pay much,
the only good part is I know for dang sure the limb-mounts are Square/Plumb and in alignment with each other,
and are at the spec'ed 21 deg :pray: oops--12 deg :) whew,,
all else is probably looking like a self-bow,,, :biglaugh:
lots more hand sanding to go, doing some serious thunking on the grip area, as you see I kept away from it,
and I only cut 5/8 Deep not the 7/8ths to center, of the arrow rest
one Birds telling me to cut down an inch (the faint center pen line you can see) and glue up some end-grain palm for the curved/arrow rest?
cause its looking naked right there,
another birds telling me to leave it as is, don't mess with it,,
dang birds are gonna drive me nuts,
cheers
john
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I think that weird riser block glue up is going to come around pretty nice.
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Yeah..!! It could be the Bomb...
I glued up two riser blocks today...
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That is a neat riser block thingy you got there. :notworthy:
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Ok John the block got some contrast for sure.
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Doing a upgrade on the dust collection.Harbor Freight blower and will have a 4 in. Dust deputy cyclone with a 15 gal.bin The super fine stuff will go outside. Stay tuned more to come.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W3ib6m1i8Y
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I got the hard stuff done today. Cyclone suppose to be here tomorrow.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191024/00a8a390451268a2e5893e175e8b4bb3.jpg)
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Nice! A two stage is much more efficient, don't have to move the big stuff thru the impeller.
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Finished the Lignostone bow, posting a few pics.
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Bloodwood handle and PL. Made handle from 8 thin strips.
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Waterfall Bubinga on back.
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When shot with fingers bend will be slightly different.
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Nice Bue
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Very nice bue, Bue. :thumbsup:
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Really sweet bow there, Bue.
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Flem I said I am waiting on the cyclone. Got a small one now and the only way stuff gets to the fan is if the bin is full.
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Flem I said I am waiting on the cyclone. Got a small one now and the only way stuff gets to the fan is if the bin is full.
I heard dat :shaka:
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Bue that is a sweet looking bow.
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That really is a great looking bue, Bue. I think I just stuttered in Norwegian.
I don't think there is anything in your shop that is not aesthetically appealing, even the green knobs on your cabinets look cool. :thumbsup:
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Nice bow Buemaker, :clapper: Tell me more about you're machine that you have it resting on, Is that a 8" Jointer with Table saw and router table combo ? what make and info please. Thanks Gary
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Here you go Stic....
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Get you one of these too....https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001Q9EFUK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for posting that Ben just ordered one for my dust collector !
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Those remotes are handy. I got a Craftsman one for my funky dust collector. Mine is not as efficient as Stic's will be. I could not figure out how to make a cyclone separator, so the air flow goes thru the bin rater than bypassing it. Still works pretty good, just had to overcompensate with a bigger impeller.
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This is the one I have but I mounted it on the wall !
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Good thinking guys...
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Dust be gone.
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Here is how the cyclone works. The air tube extends a ways into the cone. The dust inlets the top side and has to go around the tube and the cone funnels out the bottom into the bin. You know when you was a kid and turned in circles then fell down from being dizzy. :bigsmyl:
The remote will be a good idea when I get the drop for my tablesaw.
I have some of the 2 in. home Depot tube along the wall to a couple of machines. Probably need to go to 4 in. or try the 2 in. first??
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I would say go with the 4". But there are formulas for figuring flow, velocity and static loss to friction for each machine you hook up to your system. I found it somewhere when I was building my impeller.
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Been doing alot of sanding with 60 and 80 grit,
got what I want for a rough shape,
Now to start progressing down with the grits
and Blending it all in
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That is a oretty neat looking riser.
So Flemyou think a veturi in the line may speed up the air.
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Looks great, John.
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Looks better and better
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That is a oretty neat looking riser.
So Flemyou think a veturi in the line may speed up the air.
Well.... Yes it would, but at the cost of decreasing the volume of air flow and pressure
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Just stopped in at Lowes this morning for this goodie.
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John, that is one sexy riser. I like palm wood. I wish I could get some red palm.
Stic, I would go with the largest diameter hose possible. The narrower the hose, the more suction you lose. That goes for elbows and bends in the piping as well.
If you have to neck it down, do it as close to the end as you can.
Dave.
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Red palm at exoticwood.biz
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Thanks! :archer:
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Looking Good, Farmer...
Stic you better not let Ol' Roy see that new tech gadget... He might start himmin and hollin bout how a tree grows on the side of a hill.... :laughing: You should just stick to a broom and knap you some flint tools to cut your wood... :)
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1st coat of Tru-Oil rubbed into it, Ill be wet sanding the next two coats,
We save our tops off the Snapple Iced tea, I use them when im working with the oil,
makes a nice disposable container
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Sweet....
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Nice :thumbsup:
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That looks better every time I see it. Was not sure I liked it at first...
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In this day of advanced modern technology, They haven't invented a work bench that doesn't get cluttered yet??
15" and 16" riser blocks rough cut...
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Shred,
you should see my bench,,Ifya can even find it most times, :biglaugh:
those risers,,wish id seen them before I cut out mine, just that pic showed me how I shulda done it,,
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OK, so Knowing the Black Evil would sand into my oak, I made an executive dunksishion,
IF I had let it dry, not much would migrate into the oak,
I did the opposite,
I did my second wet sanding while it was tacky, Keeping to my "WAYWARD" Direction,
and the outcome is that the Dark Palm Dust-- filled the Grain Holes a teensy-weency in the oak,
Giving the Oak grain the Blackened Contrast I wanted to Go along with the Gorgious Spalted lines in the Limbs
I HOPE :pray:
heres the 3rd coat now drying on my High-End specialized Drying unit
(If it starts snapping and popping its only a short toss into the hell Black palm belongs in-Im still digging out splinters in my fingers)
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Cheers all, and THANK YOU for the kind words
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Rut ROW,,I just saw Shred, PRE-Drilled his holes,, :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Howd I notthunk that move?
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That looks really nice with some finish on it :thumbsup:.Please post a close up pic after it dries.
Shredd, what woods did you use in those risers?
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Sheoak, wenge and jatoba...
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In this day of advanced modern technology, They haven't invented a work bench that doesn't get cluttered yet??
Some things take precedent.
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Clutter is operator error.
So John you drilled that riser yet?
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Clutter is operator error.
So John you drilled that riser yet?
Nope- :banghead:- gonna wait now untill I get my limbs ready then drill both at the same time,
probably bass-akwoods but I lernin as I goin
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Your requested close ups
Wet with 4th coat rubbed on with my finger,
Does the Palm Give My Riser a Slim Form ? :biglaugh:
you can see some of the spots where the black palm migrated into the grain
Dang thing rolled over onto my desk wet :banghead: so its got some boogers ill need to steel wool off
before the next coat,
A good Monday to all
Cheers
John
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I guess it's ok:)
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I like that Palm, looks nice :thumbsup:
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well, Glued up my First Limb, its now hanging out over my specialized oven
Im :pray: and :pray: it all goes well,,
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It will be fine John as long as you got them all coated just don't pop it off the form early :cheesy:
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It will be fine John as long as you got them all coated just don't pop it off the form early :cheesy:
Yep.....make sure limb is cured and cooled to room temp before releasing bands. It will help reduce springback.
Riser looks nice :thumbsup: I think the black in the grain just makes it looked aged.
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second limb Glued up and on the form,
Tomorrow will tell the tale :biglaugh:
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We are wishing you the best of luck.
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Looks like you added some devices to your form on the second limb. What ya got going on there?
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Looks like squirm preventers.
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Looks like you added some devices to your form on the second limb. What ya got going on there?
Yup Like Monerey said squirm preventers :biglaugh:
coated with petroleum jelly
my last ones, didnt work like I wanted, although they did work,,,
this time I didnt forget the saran wrap
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John
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Squirm guards I like it :thumbsup: won't be long tell your flinging arrows with that one !
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FLEM....
Be careful......
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Already stopped myself. It was really a tough one to pass on :goldtooth:
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Roy's making me make another wood bow ;) so I started laying out this 57" osage /sinew bow 4" handle 1 1/2" fades 25" aprox. working limb , slight tapering parallel limb design and making a heat caul like in the patern for mid to outer profile then reverse string 4" reflex for sinew the stave is presten almost 4 yrs in the dryer !
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That looks like a primo stave, Ritchie. Looking forward to your progress.
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Thank Pat I think I'm going to put a slight retro flip on the tips to keep the string on also I'm going to try to stretch it to 30 1/2" it will take it but bet it's going to stack !
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That is sweet Osage.
That the stave you promised me and then never sent?:)
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Oh ! I have some special staves for you Roy that one Im using would not test your skills like the ones Im sending you :bigsmyl:
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LOL, I'll be waiting:)
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I would definitely flip the tips to increase the draw possibility but I wouldn't try for 31 1/2" draw with a 57" bow unless you added sinew and it would still be iffy and especially with a stiff handle.
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Well finally got an MRI on Tuesday. Looks like my rotator cuff is not the issue. I appear to have arthritis in my AC (collar bone) joint and a posterior labral tear, which is the cartilage that holds your shoulder in the socket. Waiting for an appointment with an orthopedic doc. Just keeps getting more fun. Been almost 8 weeks since I’ve shot my bows.
On a brighter note I used satellite maps of a local hunting area and found a really nice bedding area. Sat 4 times, had 3 does feeding behind me on first sit and a buck was working through the thick and nasty. He’s worked through every time I’ve sat there @ 9:30ish however it’s so thick I’ve not been able to see him but he makes his presence known. Most vocal buck I’ve ever been around. I’ve tried switching my hiding spot 3 times and he just knows how to stay hidden. Supposed to snow tonight so I’m gonna sit this evening and all day tomorrow hoping he slips. So far closest he’s gotten is 35-40 yards but on the other side of thick hedge. Wish me luck.
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Pat I am using sinew as I posted, it defently is going to be a stretch but I'm keeping it 1 5/8" out of the fade & pretty much parallel to the last 6" I have about 25" working limb , well really only one way to find out :cheesy: I think it will work with proper tiller and I'm using about 1000-1100 elk sinew & keeping the bow light @45lb, will see ! Fishinglink glad every thing is working out !
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Morning started off like this, not the bow blank I was gonna glue up(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191101/7639d046e6090c5423b98f62a54a4179.jpg)
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That's a great way to start your morning :thumbsup:
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Damn Cody, that's not good either. Got my fingers crossed for you. Think about talking to a P.T. before you consider any surgery.
On an unrelated to Archery note, Happy Halloween!
Just got the warning while I was typing, congrats Kenny! Thats a fine looking Buck :thumbsup:
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Nice Kenny!
Is this year number three for that take down? Bout time to retire it.
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Congrats Kenny! Nice buck and great pic in the snow!
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:thumbsup: Kenny :o
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Already complimented you on FB... Don't wanna give you a big head...
Aww... What the hell... Good going, Kenny...
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Good job, Kenny.
Cody, wish ya luck dude.
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Thanks guys, Brad this is the fifth buck, several does ,and a bobcat in 2016
A buck just about like that one in 16 , 2 much better in 17 , a good one late season last year , and this one. Hadda think about that awhile , then go look at the huntin pics on my website !! LOL
I shoot it good enuff I just can't let her go... Or it allows my poor form and shooting well enough I might say!
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Nice buck, Kenny. :thumbsup:
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Cleaned up shop where I processed two deer last night. Then I sanded lams and veneers for three longbows. Got work to do now.
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That’s gonna be a looker Kenny.
Congrats on your deer David.
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Made a sanding table from some old furniture with a large dust hood.
It stands on wheels with locks that can move in any direction.
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Interesting lams Kenny. :)
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Good idea Bue. I've been thinking about a sanding station for a while, but didn't want another fixed object in my cramped shop. You could drill a bunch of holes in that top and mount the dust hood underneath. Then let me know how it works :bigsmyl:
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Finally finished this take-down... 61" string - 46#...
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Looking good Shredd. :)
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Neat looking bow Shredd. How you doing that groove in the shelf. And your thoughts on how it helps??
Bue thats a good idea. I may run a line under my bench now with the new collector and suck the dust off the bench.
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Man! That looks really nice Shredd :thumbsup: Really like the clean, uncluttered look.
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Nice station Bue... I am all about the rolling stations... I got about five of them... Great for a smaller shop and/or to roll outside to keep the dust levels low in your shop... Flem you might consider a bigger station with multiple tools on it... More stable and saves more space being that it has 3 to 4 tools on it...
Thanks for the compliments guys...
Stic... I just cut it out with a bandsaw... Being as cheap as I am... When I first started shooting I went to wally world for arrows... All they had was vanes... I cut the slot so they would shoot straight and the rest is history... Been shooting vanes ever since...
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Looks like there might be a slight flat spot in the outer 1/3 of the limb form.
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Yeah I did not want to say anything tho.
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Are you referring to my limbs with a flat spot??
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Ya I seen that too but was afraid to comment.
Flat as a pancake..
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Are you guys sure?? Look at it again....
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Shredd, take a pic with a lighter background than black. I think the camera angle and shadows might be
messing you up. The top limb looks somewhat ok and the bottom limb does show what appears to be a flat section from the start of the curve above the fades to just before you get to the hooks. Cant' be if you use the same form.
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I don't know... I don't see it... Does anyone else see a flat spot?? When I get out to the shop I will check it...
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I see what they are talkin about, but I don’t think it’s a flat spot. I think it’s just shadows playing tricks, along with the fact that it is a very gentle radius leading into the sharper tips.
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Ok... I checked it and cannot find a flat spot... Here are two pics... One is mid limb and one is of the area in question... Tell me where you see a flat spot... You guys may need to see the eye doctor or stay off the hootch...
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It might be ok.
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That's what I was thinking. one can't be flatter than the other with the same form. Figured lighting and shadows was playing eye tricks. :deadhorse:
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Hey Roy... What about you?? You are always putting circles on bows... Why don't you put a true radius on this one?? ;) :) Maybe blow up the pic a bit bigger so we can see any variations...
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It looks better in your last picture.
I can't do the circle thing at an angle.
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Ok... I give up... I was trying to mess with you guys for a bit... Nothing better to do on a rainy day and most work is done... Gary you were close but no cigar... Bvas was on spot when he said a gentle radius going into a sharper one... And the rest of you were dead wrong... No flat spot...
It is an optical illusion... The limbs appear to be a little flatter in that area but they are not... I see it myself... But I know how I built that form so I never checked it until today just to make sure I was right and not deceiving you guys...
I thought about changing the design with a gradually tighter radius to be more eye appealing but I fear that it may take away from performance where I am getting 193 fps on my last set of limbs... Besides it looks good at brace...
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Get rid of the curve and the flat disappears...
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I guess it's ok...
If ya like a plain Jane bow like that..
193? LOL, that's it?
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I was getting ready to call the eye doctor, cuz I ain’t given up the hooch :biglaugh:
How many grain arrow to get that 193? 9 gr/#?
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I was getting ready to call the eye doctor, cuz I ain’t given up the hooch :biglaugh:
How many grain arrow to get that 193? 9 gr/#?
You mean how many bows did he make to get 193 with 10gpp. :bigsmyl:
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Here yah Go....
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Yeah... Plain Jane... Not into the fancy pants stuff yet... You boys better stay off the Hootch... The eye doctors would be a waste of money... :biglaugh:
It's 193 @ 10gpp... Yeah I been working on it for a while... It took me 5 bows with this design to reach that number... The others are around the 188 to 190 mark... I am still not done... I think I will pop out about another 4 to 5 more to make sure I exhausted all my tricks... Hitting 195 to 196 would be nice... It's taken me about 40 bows to start zeroing in on higher performance... I think there is a little bit more potential left in this design because it is barely stacking at 28"...
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:o I think you are going around in circles.... :biglaugh:
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Ya and you got a hole in your riser:)
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We made you look tho Shredd :laughing: :laughing:
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Hmmm, can we now be absolutely certain there is no flat spot? ;)
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:dunno: Maybe I should look harder... Some of these guys could be right... :laughing: Well it was entertaining... Didn't get chit done today... Got the bow boxed up and ready to ship though...
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Shredd, thought you had a Bill Stewart Multicam thing going there. 😆
You got some good numbers there but don’t get too hung up
on pushing the envelope. I think you are getting close to maxing out your design.
Excellent R/D my friend, you should be proud. Looking forward to seeing you go further with your designs. Gary
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Thanks Gary... Appreciate it... I am winding up my designs as far as I can take them... But only if they are stable... As far as other qualities like quietness and such I can either adjust for that later or make another design... I know a lot more now than I knew 3yrs. ago... And I am still learning...
Checked out that Bill Stewart bow... :o Not sure that I am a fan of that design... ;)
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I was only joking in my last post and I cannot see any flat spot. Delivering 193 feet you have an excellent bow. It would be interesting to se the speed with 9 grains pr pound draw weight. That is how Blackie tests. A Black Widow PAX recurve tested at 194 feet. A Predator Classic recurve tested at 198 feet.
A Black Widow PLX hybrid tested at 190 feet.
Blackie always use two speed testers set up in a tandem configuration to make sure he measures straight arrow flight.
Alongside the late Norbert Mullaney Blackie is considered the authority when it comes to bow testing. You can see some of his bow tests if you search for Blackies bow reports.
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Well, i thought for sure there was a flat spot. I'm going to put a flat spot in my RD. Might get it over 189. :)
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Bue... 47# shooting a 421gr. arrow at 202 fps... Very close to 9gpp... I'm gonna call my bow the White Widow... :biglaugh:
Seems that I lost 2 fps... Not sure why... I do know that one string is faster than the other by 2-3fps... Maybe I used that string before... It's like you gotta keep track of every damn thing to get anywhere... Notes notes notes... Never enough notes... So sick of notes... I need a glass of wine... :tongue:
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Well I was looking at this pic and not seeing the flat spot finally. Hmm say you lost a couple FPS ? Is that a crack in the end of the riser there? maybe thats it.
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Got my Limb-Bolts and inserts drilled out,
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Roy... I watched a classic video of your hero last night...
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KennyM is my hero...
Whad he do?
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He's my hero too... :laugh: But I am talking about Ed Scott...
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Yes I've seen that video also, many times.
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I’ve got limb #2 for a 64” three piece in the oven and drilled, tapped and glued inserts in the riser. All I like now is finishing up! :goldtooth:
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That is a good Looking one.
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Nice, Mike...
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That's awesome looking Maple riser Mike it has a beautifull business look to it :thumbsup:
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Yeah you really never know what a piece of wood will look like until the resin cures. Most times it is better.
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Where did you source that red diamondwood.
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Today? I shoveled snow.... :help:
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Red diamondwood from The Rosewood shop
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Today? I shoveled snow.... :help:
Me too :tongue:
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Me to.
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Well I was looking at this pic and not seeing the flat spot finally. Hmm say you lost a couple FPS ? Is that a crack in the end of the riser there? maybe thats it.
Shredd you ever figured this out yet ???
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Started another osage bow today while waiting on the other to re aclimate, got some fun straiting this one ! Lateral & deflexed !
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Looks to be an interesting stave, Ritchie....
Is that one of my staves too?:)
Oh crap Shreddy, that crack gotta be a bummer...
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Nope has no worms and to strait & not enough prop twist not chalinging enough, Im still looking for yours :laughing:
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Looks like most of the bend is right at the handle. Get it to floor tiller stage first. You might have to bring the limbs around to line up being that the thickness of the handle would be almost impossible to straighten.
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Pat I probably should have posted better pics there is a lot of lateral bend in the upper mid/outers but its going to have 8" leavers to but I should be able to reflex & laterally straiten on the caul at the same time I have a lot of areas to play with , should be able to get the string dead lined up I hope ! That is when I get it thined down all the deflex is in one leaver so that will be a non issue to straiten with Eiffel tower leavers ! I guess Im on the natural bow kick for winter :knothead:
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You can add reflex and straighten it laterally at the same time. I've done it many times and a lot more than that.
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What did I do today? Got a root canal. I'll be honest, I think I'd rather shovel snow.
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True dat! :knothead:
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Used the bucket of junk method & heat gun to get some lateral bend out, the rest I will do on a caul but got the string tracking inside the handle before and after pics !
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Cooking up some osage this morning !!
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All the cooking did it some good a couple more trips of dry heat the string will be dead center !
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Looking good
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Good, then send it to me:)
I didn't know you collected butterflies too?
How sweet:)
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Thanks guys , sure Roy after 2 days of fun you want it :biglaugh: yes Im a huge fan of Butter flys & milk pitchers to,Told ya! Its a deverse community :laughing:
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Pretty dead here lately.
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I didn't know you collected butterflies too?
How sweet:)
I'll bet he shot every single one of them...on the wing...in deepest, darkest Africa. :archer2:
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Pretty dead here lately.
It's hunting season stickypops..
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:)Yep hunting season , Kirk I shot those in Papua New Guinea :cheesy: I noticed your in the land of Lincoln & drive by shootings :) Where are you located Im in S west burbs Romeoville ?
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NE burbs...Waukegan.
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Gotcha Kirk my son lives up that way ,I'm almost weekly Glenview ,Milwauke area I know that area well !
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Installed a new faucet yesterday, cooking and bending this morning & the suns not up yet :knothead:
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Got the slow sweep bend in the leavers & got this wrangled with in 1/4" of center today !
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I'd start reducing the belly and get it to low brace to see how the string tracks under stress. Once there you can always reheat and straighten more if and where needed.
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Still have to do the other tip yet ,getting both limbs symtrical ,I can adjust this one easy after brace now I still need to reflex the limbs yet ,not getting crazy with it , forgot how relaxing making these self bows was ! :)
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At the Hunting club eating fried deer, mashed taters,green beans, and biscuit and gravy
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Where's all the chicks??? :)
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They are out looking for roosters that aren't candidates for capon.
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They are out looking for roosters that aren't candidates for capon.
Hey,Hey, Hey------Speak for yourself monterey :laughing:
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Been working on my first self bow for a while. About 1.5 years and just been working on it here and there. I am getting the bug to work on it again. I encountered a bunch of issues with this stave but am renewed in my efforts to finish it. I am currently floor tillering it but have some serious propeller twist to work out. Here are some pics of it in it's current state. Hard to believe this was a hunk of tree with the bark on it. Done all the work this far with a draw knife and a rasp.
Bow is 60" right now and layed out for 3 under. Hoping to hit a draw weight in the 60-70# range.
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Here it when I got it. And shave horse that I free handed out of scrap wood. Gonna make some shavings fly today.
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Don't feel bad about the time Dave I have a horn/composite in the works 2 yrs...lol I'm not seeing any severe prop twist from your pics but some times the prop twist works it's way out during tiller & if not you can always steam or heat it out good luck with your project !
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Some prop twist is acceptable in selfbows where it would not be with glass bows. You don't have very much twist, relatively speaking and it can be heated out but also tillered out. I'd get the limbs bending evenly and together and get to low brace and see the effects of the twist then like where it is and how much twist is in each limb. Once you are at that point you can clamp the stave to a caul and with heat, clamps and small wood wedges work out the twist(at least most of it) and at the same time add a bit of reflex.
I'm assuming your draw length is 28" and if so I think kicking the tips up a little also will help with the long draw for a short stave. I'd say 28" is at the limit for a 60" selfbow and depending how much working limbs you'll have could over stress the bow.
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Some prop twist is acceptable in selfbows where it would not be with glass bows. You don't have very much twist, relatively speaking and it can be heated out but also tillered out. I'd get the limbs bending evenly and together and get to low brace and see the effects of the twist then like where it is and how much twist is in each limb. Once you are at that point you can clamp the stave to a caul and with heat, clamps and small wood wedges work out the twist(at least most of it) and at the same time add a bit of reflex.
I'm assuming your draw length is 28" and if so I think kicking the tips up a little also will help with the long draw for a short stave. I'd say 28" is at the limit for a 60" selfbow and depending how much working limbs you'll have could over stress the bow.
I have a 26" draw. Here are some pics of the twist.
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Get it to low brace and see how it looks. The twist will not hurt the bow in that stave. Once you get it to brace, under tension, you will be able to better see the twist and where it is.
Like I said before you can tiller out twist too. It is at full draw where you see good tiller, not in a relaxed stave. By removing wood from the strong side of each limb as the bow is drawn when you hit full draw the twist can be eliminated even though it is still there when relaxed.
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Sounds good guys. I'm gonna give it a go.
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Well my customer got his bow and is pretty happy with it... Called it a 'shooter'... Sent me some pics... It is very rewarding when someone likes and appreciates something that you made... The pics are at 25 - 30 and 35yds...
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I'd call that a shooter indeed. Congrats
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Made some shavings for the first time in 6 months. Feels good to get on the draw knife. Laid a line down the bow at the centers of each tip. It's completely off the riser... heat gun in my future perhaps. Made a dozen arrows while I was at it too.
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Petrich you can also steam them , those lateral bends are delcate bends you cant force them to much if you got your limb thickness down to 5/8-1/2" you can steam a area for about an hour and take them out at different areas along the limbs you can make a simple caul out of 2 x4 or 6 steam generally works better then dry heat for those type bends for me ! I use a deep fryer for steam ! and you can take that deflex out at the same time .
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Well my customer got his bow and is pretty happy with it... Called it a 'shooter'... Sent me some pics... It is very rewarding when someone likes and appreciates something that you made... The pics are at 25 - 30 and 35yds...
Nice job Shredd :clapper:
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That is some very fine shooting.
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That is some very fine shooting.
Dang Roy
You said something nice about Shreddy's Cracked Bow :jumper:
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Wasn't zackly bout my bow... Lol... Yeah... And dont forget the flat spot too... :saywhat: :tongue:
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Shipping Roy Boy a Osage stage this morning
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Shipping ole Maxi Boy two bamboo backing strips this morning.
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Petrich you can also steam them , those lateral bends are delcate bends you cant force them to much if you got your limb thickness down to 5/8-1/2" you can steam a area for about an hour and take them out at different areas along the limbs you can make a simple caul out of 2 x4 or 6 steam generally works better then dry heat for those type bends for me ! I use a deep fryer for steam ! and you can take that deflex out at the same time .
Any worries about checking with adding steam in the equation this far in? Is this also something I should just fix with tillering?
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Looks like Roy might be into some Oriental stick fighting.
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Yeah I was going to set it on fire and start twirling it around and around
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You guys got some Kung Fu weapons there nice shooting bow there Shreedy , Dave I have never had a well seasoned stave check while steaming , I always keep the back sealed with shellac , steam is usauly gental , the lateral & deflex bends usauly don't tillier out but do what you feel comfterable with !
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Well I just bit the bullet and ordered #63 of 199 Bear TD Rambo. Guess they have old timers in mind being they are all 45@28
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Ah hell that's only one SS check:)
Congrats, Mike...
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Actually about $800 left over.
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Well hell, ya shoulda got one for yer buddy Roy in Pa too:)
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I'm confused, is the "Rambo" a Bear, or a Big Jim?
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Bear..........
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Bear TD A riser 60 in. 45@28. only 199 of them made. Jim has them. I saved shipping tho.
Well I did think about you Roy NOT :laughing: :bigsmyl:
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Put a carpet backdrop up for my friends that don't shoot straight... No more lost arrows... Yay...!!!
Here is the sister bow to the last one I made... It came in at 39.7# Shoots sweet, very fast and smooth draw... I'm keeping this one for myself...
And I am shipping this beauty out in the next day or so... Zebra, Wenge and Padouk... He liked the Take-down so much, he's buying this one too... :) :)
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Sweet
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Not too shabby, Shreddy....
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Put a carpet backdrop up for my friends that don't shoot straight... No more lost arrows... Yay...!!!
Here is the sister bow to the last one I made... It came in at 39.7# Shoots sweet, very fast and smooth draw... I'm keeping this one for myself...
And I am shipping this beauty out in the next day or so... Zebra, Wenge and Padouk... He liked the Take-down so much, he's buying this one too... :) :)
Nice! Although just looking at it I'd a taken it for 39.9#! :)
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Looks good Rich :thumbsup:
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Thats a beauty Shredd. I'm starting to like the shelf groove. Don't remember why you said it was there, but it adds a nice visual element to your bows :thumbsup:
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Very nice riser. Is that shelf groove to hold a cigarillo, would fit me just fine. :)
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The shelf is to shoot vained arrows...
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I thought for years folks used elevated arrow rests for shooting vanes?
Leave it to a guy from Florida to cut a slot in the riser...
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Thats a beauty Shredd. I'm starting to like the shelf groove. Don't remember why you said it was there, but it adds a nice visual element to your bows :thumbsup:
Some people think its weird because they are not used to seeing it... But I say don't knock it until you try it... I like your idea on the blued stainless...
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Acadian Woods has been doing the groove for years. Dont think he had vanes in mind tho. But it does give clearance. On a heavy poundage bow I would want some G10 in there to.
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I'm sort of a vain shooter. :)
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That's a real looker! :thumbsup:
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I thought for years folks used elevated arrow rests for shooting vanes?
Leave it to a guy from Florida to cut a slot in the riser...
Why not keep the arrow closer to the hand???
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Well guys good news I think. No surgery for now. They gave me an injection and some HD anti inflammatory drugs. Looking at 8 weeks of pt then a re-evaluation. If he sees 60%+ improvements in pain relief and range of motion then more pt. If not then we discuss options. Bad news is even he (the ortho surgeon) does not know exactly what is causing the pain.
So best case scenario I may be able to shoot winter league still.
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Why add glass to a wood bow when it shoots great without glass?
Why make 3 piece bows with nuts and bolts on them to hold them together?
Indians made real bows.
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Cody that's great news dude.
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Why add glass to a wood bow when it shoots great without glass?
Why make 3 piece bows with nuts and bolts on them to hold them together?
Indians made real bows.
Blah, Blah, Blah... Why use electric and modern tools... Why use your vehicle and gasoline... I am sure that you use more modern stuff than primitive stuff... Let it go Roy... To each his own... If you are gonna be an Indian then go all the way and be an Indian not a poser, wanna-be Indian... Your whining about Gwass Bows is getting old... Not sure what you got against fiberglass they been using it for years in all kinds of things... If you can't say anything positive, say nothing at all... Next time you use your spoke shave I hope you realize that you did not mine the ore, melt it down and make your own tool...
Glass is just another tool... It is fast and it is stable... Send me your address and I will send you a lollipop...
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Let's see that Stave
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Gettin to that cabin fever time of year! :)
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Somebody got sumpin sides milk in the Cheerios :laughing: :bigsmyl:
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:wavey: Shreddy
Mad Max was nice enough to send me a sweet slightly snakey osage stave that was cut in 2015 by Osage Outlaw in Indiana.
Thanks Mark
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Gotta be good coming from Indiana :bigsmyl:
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Yupper, seems the further west it comes from the better it is.
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Dang
I should have kept that one :knothead:
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So Roy sent me two bamboo backing ready to glue up. :notworthy:
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Those growth rings look real nice. You folks who get a bow out of those staves always amaze me.
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Thanks Max(sarcasm)
Now Roy has a new thumping stick :knothead:
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Not yet Bvas :bigsmyl:
He still need to chase a ring first, If he can :laughing:
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Nice looking stave , watcha making Roy self bow ?
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Yupper Ritchie..
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Making a Bamboo backed Osage Tri lam, Thanks for the bamboo Roy
The grain on this Osage board is running off to the side, so I laid out my bamboo on a angle to work mo better.
And glued up the Z splice.
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56 chevy!! I had a 55 in high school,we dropped a 327 4 barrel in it outta a 62 impala .
I had about $260 in it including engine and I gave the car we took the motor out of back to the guy I got t from ! Wish I had it back now!! The truck that is! :)
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Kenny my brother had 55 Chevy 2 door post. He still talks about it. Got rid of when he got drafted in '72
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My first hunting vehicle was a 1948 Ford 3/4 ton truck with a dry freight box and a chain and canvas curtain. Flat head 8. 17" wheels. It was slow in the mountains but never missed a beat.
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My High school ride was 68 Ford Torino GT , 390 twin Holly 650's ,Hurtz shifter , mag wheels , I picked a lot of mushrooms for $1.35 a bushel to buy that ride :laugh:
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My first vehicle was a Farmall H W/ 5 on the floor faded red with a bouncey seat If I wanted to get fancy just hooked a tall grain wagon to it and threw a tarp over it for a tent.
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My first vehicle was a Farmall H W/ 5 on the floor faded red with a bouncey seat If I wanted to get fancy just hooked a tall grain wagon to it and threw a tarp over it for a tent.
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Max... Where is your truck??
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How did you guy's get to first vehicles?
Anyways, mine was a '69 VW Fastback with a rebuilt, fuel infected '71 1600cc
Sounds macho eh?
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Mine was '72' cutlass...
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Finaly got my arched leavers & lateral adjustments done only took 3 week ends :cheesy: after reflex hoping for a similar profile like my buds !
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Gosh, Roy, I didn't know your hair was so white. :bigsmyl:
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So it aint a bear dog ?
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Max... Where is your truck??
It's in the barn :laughing: :saywhat:
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I'm gray, Pat.
Can't use dogs for bear in Pa.
Post the truck Mark..
I'll print it out and shoot arrahs at it.
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You can't hit it. :laughing:
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Dont shoot the green spot it aint healed good yet. :bigsmyl:
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What is it, Mark?
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A pain in the a&&
1956 chevy truck
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When did chevy start making a truck?
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Waaaay before Coyota ! LMAO
BTW I love Toyotas too, had a great one but my 16 yo liked it so much I let him have it. Big tires ya know...
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Good save, Pee Wee...
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My old Chevy rides better and gets better mileage than that one did...
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When did chevy start making a truck?
1918
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Went crazy in my shop the last few days. Getting ready for winter work season. Finally got everything on wheels, except the drum sander. Have not seen this much real estate for many years. Feels good to be organized!
Even got my hot box up out of the way
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Looks great Flem..
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Looks good, nice to be set up for winter :)
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Nice... Makes you get excited about the next project so you can clutter it all up again... :)
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Nice... Makes you get excited about the next project so you can clutter it all up again... :)
Boy oh boy, ain't that the truth! If I can only force myself to put things away.....
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I guess it looks pretty good.
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Raking leaves ahead of the (alleged) storm.
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Looks good, Rich...
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What is that Form #9 back there?
Looks like a Recurve
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Thanks Roy...
No, it is a R/D bow...
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Two 14 pounders on the Weber today.
Shredd that form got a flat spot LMAO(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191126/7abc8c7f666050435202ef4bcc23163b.jpg)
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Yeah but your Bird has a hole in it... :saywhat: :)
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Lmfao..
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and there is a crack in it. :tongue:
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And it's all scribbled up, looks to be 71 years old..
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And it is delicious :bigsmyl:
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Ok Drum Stic........
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Tried out the new top for the form and glued up some limbs yesterday... Works good... Clearance for hose is just about perfect... Gonna cut the limbs out and glue some tips on them today... Shooting for 41-42# and hoping to hit above 190fps... :thumbsup:
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Hmph, whaddya know, it did snow. :o
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Yeah Drum Stic my favorite piece. :biglaugh:
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“Hmph, whaddya know, it did snow.“
Sorry to hear that Mike.
Sunday we were supposed to get 8 inches and only got a bit of over one. :jumper: :thumbsup:
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Get the garbage can lid out and the truck :bigsmyl: :tongue:
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It's ok I'm not going anywhere for a few days. Glad I'm not trying to fly anywhere.
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Hmph, whaddya know, it did snow. :o
Where in Colorado are you?
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OMG, what the heck happened to it?
You ok?
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That red looks pretty awesome.
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Hmph, whaddya know, it did snow. :o
Where in Colorado are you?
Arvada
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That red is impressive.
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black and walnut
Now I like that.
Yer nighty night blankey is cute too:)
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Thats a awsome combo Mike its my favorite of your posts this year american/combo :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I like the curly
Looks good
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Punkin spice Roy
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Did a bunch of testing today... After some inventive sanding I got this bow shooting at 190 fps... It came in a little light... I forgot to account for making the limbs a hair longer and changing the pad angles from 9 degrees to 10 or 11 degrees... She is 39 to 40# depending on what pad angle I use... I think I got one more tweak up my sleeve and then I am gonna call it quits and settle where she is at..
Wishing You All A Very Happy Thanksgiving....
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Good stats there Shreddy :thumbsup: got my self bow floor tillered and reflex put in today Happy Thanks Giving to all !
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That selfbow gets more and more intriguing. Really curious how the reflex is going to play out.
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Thanks Buddy... Don't know much about that kind of bow but it looks good... Cool to see how patient you are...
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That yellar bow is lookin good.
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Thanks guys well if you look at the profile most of the reflex is in the mid/outers I left the limbs full width in the lowers it's starting 5 1/4" should hold 2 1/2 with patients :cheesy: of course it's exspermentle that's the most I have ever done on a non sinew bow but it's going to be 40-45 lb should work ! Shreddy every thing about these timber bows is time consuming !
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I think you will like that profile. If it is a bit crazy after the shot back your wedge up a bit and string groove back the same. Seems to me if the reflex starts too soon off the wedge things get a little crazy..
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Thanks Mike, it’s all an experiment. LOL
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Bet that's going to be a peppy bow Kenny I like the profile :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: Kenny :campfire: :coffee:
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Good stats there Shreddy :thumbsup: got my self bow floor tillered and reflex put in today Happy Thanks Giving to all !
That almost looks similar to a board bow. Very nice workmanship!
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Nice Kenny... What is the radius mid-limb??
Shreddy every thing about these timber bows is time consuming !
Just keep remembering... Its not about the destination... Its about the path... Just keep enjoying the process... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Thanks Kirk, well it's still just a peace of wood a little while to I call it a bow !
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That's a lot of reflex, Ritchie..
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Well I guess I could make another safe over built self bow that doesent break to hang on the wall :cheesy: or have fun & try some thing new ! :goldtooth:
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LOL
Go furit:)
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Roy you got a flat spot under that Plumb bob
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What Plumb bob?
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on the left about 6" above the nock
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That is a coiled up string attached to the on/off switch of the air cleaner.
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Still got a flat spot there :tongue:
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I'll get right on it....
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Your just not any fun this Morning :bigsmyl:
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Ya got me confused wif Shreddy boy short fuse:)
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Ya got me confused wif Shreddy boy short fuse:)
Lol... Sorry... Never mean any harm... Just a black and white kinda guy and sometimes lack a sense of humor... I might also come off cocky but it's more my mind just spewing out than my ego... I am just passionate and put stuff out there without too much thought of how I may look or appear...
Hope you guys don't look at me in a bad way... I am a good guy that looks out for his friends and always wanting to help... Although I have been called painfully honest... I am alone 99% of the time working on stuff so I never quite mastered social skills... So joking around is not always priority on my list...
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Shreddy, it's all good brother:)
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It's that sticktpops guy who is a pain in the a$$...
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190 feet with 10 grains pr pound in a 40 pound bow I would say is excellent.
You are okay Shredd.
Will be interesting to see how that one turns out Kenny.
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Glued up one of the bamboo backing roy sent me for a boo backed Osage
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Riser glued on
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I got a piece of Ipe for the second boo backing for a Tri lam
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You go big dog...
Looks good.
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Looks good Max :)
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Hmph, whaddya know, it did snow. :o
Where in Colorado are you?
Arvada
Nice, I’m still digging out up in Broomfield!
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Yeah, it's a mess. Last night at my grandsons semifinal game.
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LOL.....
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I have my Bamboo backed Ipe trilam all prep, and ready for glue up. :)
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Not wifout pichers ya don't.
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Here you go Roy :laughing:
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Wow Max!!!
That should end up nicer than Roy’s favorite Trilam.
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That's to fancy for us
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That is fancy :laugh:
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LOL Squidy boy..
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Yep I seen that flat spot ---that your fancy metal riser bow Roy? next thing ya you be tryna put wheels on it :laughing:
Looking good Max
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Yeah, his Toyota got wheels on it...:)
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I glued up my Bamboo Ipe tri lam Yesterday, took off most of the clamps
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Looking good!
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Looks Good Mark...
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Got to glue up a new bow last week. Big thanks to my friends Sam who’s letting me use his shop!
Rough shaped her today. Can’t wait to string it now!
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Looking good Z
Thanks guys
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Looking good guys :thumbsup:
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Looks nice Mark.
When we gonna see it out of the clamps/form?
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A little bit of one I am working on.
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Sharp Mike, what is the overlay material?
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Looking good, i like this limb tip
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Looks nice Mark.
When we gonna see it out of the clamps/form?
I will get a picture up tomorrow
Looks like stable core on the bottom of the limb butt stic
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Roy that is left over stable core. .015 woven black glass. Does wonders for recurve stability.
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Elroy, you should try some on the gwass. :)
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Well Hoss, ifin I knowed someone who sold it in black, I just might give it a shot.
Would make cool tip overlays on grass bows...
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I might have a short piece of stabil core, ye never kno
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Proly oughta put it tween tha bamboo and sage soo,s they dont blowup. :laughing: :wavey:
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Proly oughta put it tween tha bamboo and sage soo,s they dont blowup. :laughing: :wavey:
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Well look and see there pappy....
Ya other 2 birds stay outta it...
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Remember Roy it is only .015 so ya might want layers of it.
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What's that in inches?
LOL
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3/200 :wavey:
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Bout a pound and a half...
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I should have got some of those tip over lays off Shreddy when he offered them.
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What's that in inches?
LOL
It's a mite hair over 1/64".
You have to get your Binoculars to read dat. :laughing:
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So here is both of the bamboo backed Ipe and Osage
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The riser for the Ipe (boo and Ipe)
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I bought a Mouth Atomizer and tried James Parker style, I like it :)
I used 1/4 cup Denatured Alcohol and 27 grains of dye.
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I've watched James use the mouth atomizer on his bows. Looking forward to seeing your results, Mark. :thumbsup:
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Looking good, Mark.
I love that dye you are using, and that's all I use..
The silver gray is my favorite on Osage..
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I've watched James use the mouth atomizer on his bows. Looking forward to seeing your results, Mark. :thumbsup:
Put your glasses on Pat it's just above the Dye bottles :o
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Mouth Atomizer -------- Hmm ah Roy Never Mind :goldtooth:
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That may be how Maxi does it, but I wipe it on and wipe it off with a rag...
I didn't tell Maxi I don't like the spotty bar room floor finish.
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That's why they make Brown Paper on a roll Roy.
Now, You go to your corner stic :tongue:
Let's see what the back of you bamboo looks like roy.
I tried wipe it on and did ent like it. :dunno:
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Sounds like you did not scrape off the waxy rind from the back of the boo?
Thought ya knew that?
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Mouth Atomizer, isn't that called;
I think you have to join the circus to get certified
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James Parker sands with green scotch brite and 400 sand paper .
That’s what I did.
I have scraped before
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The dye is denatured alcohol soluble / mixable.
I don't know if that would be compatible before and after with Acetone?
I use a scraper to remove the rind then sand with 320.
Looks like something is not working on your end there.
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Before sanding and after sanding.
Then dye it
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Do not put acetone on it anymore period none never again......
I scrape the rind off with a scraper then sand lightly with 320 length wise then wipe with clean rag dampened with denatured alcohol.
Just barely get the rind off, don't go too deep.
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Don't go under the white?????????
Under the white is yellow strands!!
More info. on the Acetone please??????
Thanks Roy
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Just barely scrape off the waxy film, No don't go under the white.
You don't want to get down into the power fibers.
Do not use acetone on this bow.
I doubt the alcohol base dye you have is compatible with acetone residue.
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I have put a bunch of acetone/epoxy finishes on BBOs over leather dye, no problems.
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Whatever but something there is not working out well for Maxi..
I'm wondering if the alcohol based dye is having a bad reaction to the acetone.
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This is the Osage one washed with the Acetone .
The dye job came out exactly like I wanted it to. :jumper:
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I did the Ipe one last night, scraped (like you said) and used the Mouth Atomizer again and got the same thing.
The large spots are done buy a paint brush with 2 or 3 hairs on it and dip it into Denatured Alcohol or dye. :jumper:
I watched the Poor folk video 2 weeks ago, I like that too, but I wanted to do the way James Parker does it.
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This is a BBB I got from James, see roy same thing beside the big spots.
He does them like yours too.
Next time I will use less Denatured Alcohol
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Looks like classic fish-eyes. Something is impeding absorption, or maybe you need more lung power for atomization :laughing:
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I like the spots...
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flim flam go to your corner :o
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It's your bow to finish like you want.
Not gonna tell ya what I think of it:)
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stic :knothead:
Roy,stic,Flem :deadhorse:
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I wish cotton was a monkey. :pray:
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Monkeys may be able to pick cotton-- :dunno:
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Just a question for all wood guys. currently been working on an osage self bow. had it in steamer couple hours and now clamped to caul. my question is, how long do you guys leave them clamped up after steaming?
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Bob there are different schools of thought on that, some say 24 hrs I personaly if Im doing a large area will stay on the caul 8 hrs if it is a smaller area a couple hours ,I heat treat after the stave has rested 9
Days depending on the age of the stave steam can add moister or take it out ! Steam corrections some times can come out if not followed by heat treating on the same caul, also with osage the caul needs to be butter smooth like a glass form if there is any imperfections it will show in the limbs after proper dry heating
I see the self bow kick is back this year :bigsmyl:
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Thanks buddy I will leave it for few days, and then might toast the belly too . I have seen steaming drop moisture content about 3% on a previous stave. Very hard to get much below 12% here in subtropical zone. High humidity.
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Bob I don't know if your adding any reflex but I found also as far as heat treating on the caul that if you dont add more buffer clamp blocks so there is no more 3/4" of space between the blocks as your heating to 375 Deg it can cause roller coasters in the limb , obviously you could smooth them up but then you have a non parallel back/belly , just passing hard knock lessons :biglaugh:
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Thanks . It had a fair degree of natural reflex, but mostly just straightening a few kinks . Really not sure if I will toast the belly yet. Never in previous ones and they worked just fine, but will heed your advise.
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So Max, is that finish a deliberate effort? Cause it looks like somebody left it out in some acid rain.
Maybe they need to brush their teeth and floss before spitting on the bamboo.
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After going back thru the thread, I see what the problem is. The stain is alcohol based, well that's only going to work if you blow .20 or higher on the breathalyzer.
You need the new saliva based stain and finish; "SPITSHINE"!. Guaranteed to put a smile on anybody with salivary glands. Works with a full set of teeth or dentures. Always filtered, so you never see what the chemists had for lunch!
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I don't about the rest of you folks, but I have a uniform I wear in the shop. Same thing every time, damn fiberglass. So I had the great idea one cold morning, I'll warm up my overalls on the wood stove. Lesson learned, don't ever walk away from your clothes on the wood stove. I actually thought they were ok until I washed them. No charing, just brown and smoking a little.
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Good thing you was not wearing them. :bigsmyl:
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A guy would have to be humping a stove to get those burn marks :biglaugh:
I love my wood stove, but not that much.
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just brown and smoking a little
Hain't no doubt in my mind:)
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I don't about the rest of you folks, but I have a uniform I wear in the shop. Same thing every time, damn fiberglass. So I had the great idea one cold morning, I'll warm up my overalls on the wood stove. Lesson learned, don't ever walk away from your clothes on the wood stove. I actually thought they were ok until I washed them. No charing, just brown and smoking a little.
Just an FYI to you guys!! Trapping supply dealer sell rubber full length (5') aprons that work great for this type of work. Keeps most if not all fiberglass off your clothes.
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Don't think that rubber would smell too good on the wood stove :saywhat:
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Pink aprons?
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Pink aprons?
Light Blue!! LOL Goes with my Eyes!
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Dang I thought maybe the ole mule bit ya ah good one?
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I thought he was just sitting around the shop scratching....umm.....well his head :o
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Once every 3 or 4 years North Mississippi get's this :goldtooth:
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Putting a trilam together. Belly european hornbeam, center european walnut, backing hard american maple, powerlam jatoba.
Will be a straight limb one with one inch backset.
All three full length lams have a .003 taper.
(https://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg) (https://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg.html)
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Nice combo Bue :thumbsup:
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Yeah I agree, nice looking wood combo :thumbsup:
Is that a typical amount of taper for the design?
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:thumbsup:
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Usually I do not use a powerlam in a straight limb design, but this time I did. With that amount of taper I think I will not have to make so much adjusting, I’ll let you know how it works out. :)
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Looks nice, Bue.
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Today I got short break from the misery of winter. I got to shoot a few arrows and retrieve them while waking on bare ground. Had two days of rain & 45 degrees that melted the snow we had.
Usually we have about 18 inches on the ground by now and you have to shovel before you shoot. Snowing hard out now so that ends that. :tongue:
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Putting a trilam together. Belly european hornbeam, center european walnut, backing hard american maple, powerlam jatoba.
Will be a straight limb one with one inch backset.
All three full length lams have a .003 taper.
(https://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg) (https://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg.html)
Looking forward to following this.
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I started shaping the handle and glued the back overlay.
I shot a couple arrow too. Noisy... No hand, good speed but it is loud. I need to think about a way to improve this
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Splicing Osage billets that came all the way from PA. About time is it not Roy?
(https://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/3C8A9076-3980-41BD-98B7-21BE36DBF91F_zps3h2gapkr.jpeg) (https://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/3C8A9076-3980-41BD-98B7-21BE36DBF91F_zps3h2gapkr.jpeg.html)
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Heck Bue, they prolly got dry rot by now:)
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Bue has hard wood floors and a desk chair in his shop :goldtooth:
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No dry rot, they have been taken well care of.
Need a desk chair in my shop, so I can sit down comfortably and have a stiff drink before operating machines. Need to steady them old nerves. :goldtooth:
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No dry rot, they have been taken well care of.
Need a desk chair in my shop, so I can sit down comfortably and have a stiff drink before operating machines. Need to steady them old nerves. :goldtooth:
I'm with you on that one Bue. Thats why this is my solvent of choice. Sometimes you need a slap on the head.
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:biglaugh:
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Thats a real man's solvent :laughing:
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Thats a real man's solvent :laughing:
I'll be rite over :laughing:
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A shot of that 190 proof in the morning should get you going. :laughing:
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Today I started on a couple of bow racks out of an old snakey osage log. I got it sliced in half.
(https://i.imgur.com/9PQFDuT.jpg)
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I also cut into a wild cherry tree that has been down for a while. It looks like it's spalted in areas. The outside is kind of mushy but the inside seems solid. I think it's worth taking to a saw mill and getting it cut into boards. I'm hoping the spalting gets better towards the trunk.
(https://i.imgur.com/PgeSCMf.jpg)
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Thats some beautiful, craggy old Osage! Should make some really nice looking rustic racks :thumbsup:
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That is some serious looking Osage.
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Couldn't you find a bow in that osage, Clint.
The cherry looks nice. Should make some nice lumber.
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That's gonna be some sweet wood.
I'm surprised that Husqvarna even cut through it:)
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Started prepping some turkey feathers for fletching.
Might take a while though :biglaugh:
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Always a nice haul from Clint
I like the snakey stuff
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Putting a trilam together. Belly european hornbeam, center european walnut, backing hard american maple, powerlam jatoba.
Will be a straight limb one with one inch backset.
All three full length lams have a .003 taper.
(https://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg) (https://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/EB21C5DE-3C93-4CF4-9270-3BF5F207FEAC_zpsbybjr8ic.jpeg.html)
Got this one glued up and cleaned on the sides, have not quite decided what I will make of it.
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(https://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/74CE5895-C972-45CD-8A17-88A64064594E_zpsi5vfn3gv.jpeg) (https://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/74CE5895-C972-45CD-8A17-88A64064594E_zpsi5vfn3gv.jpeg.html)
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Yesterday in the bow shop.
My next bow ready for glue up.
Jerry's bow ready for glue up.
Jerry working on a grip.
Jerry's bow in hot box.
Got some splitting to do below on this Ohio Osage.
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Is that log going to be for you belly slats?
show us how you do it :thumbsup:
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Yup, I will when we do it.
It's 6 feet long but the far end is a little rough.
So I'll take 36 inches off the near end for lams and the other end will be risers.
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Putting finishing touches on this takedown
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Wow that’s a pretty sharp looking bow! Do you have more pictures of the bow ?
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Yes, more pictures. More info. Inquiring minds want to know. :laugh:
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Here’s a few more
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Purpleheart and maple. 62” 40@28”
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Profile
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Looking good :thumbsup:
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Yes, more pictures. More info. Inquiring minds want to know. :laugh:
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Thats some spiffy Maple. Looks really nice with the PurpleHeart :thumbsup:
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Did some progress on the bow. It’s only my 3rd bow and the second out of this form. So it is still kind of experimental. It is a very smooth drawing bow, kind of fast too but some what noisy. I think I need to reduce the wedges to get more bend towards the tips.
Here is a picture at 28”.
Any thoughts?
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Looks like you need more thickness taper for the stack.
what do you have for taper, not counting the tip wedge?
how thick and how long is your tip wedge?
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Black and white combo looks real sharp :thumbsup:
What woods did you use?
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I'm no glass bow expert, but looks like a heck of a lot of deflex right outside of the riser area.
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Off the top of my head I think the superlame is 4 thousandth /“ until mid-lim and then 3 thousandth/“ the other way until tip.
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Had visitors this evening, 40 yards from patio door...
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Shooting range
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The deer saw Roy’s pink bow and new they were safe. :laughing:
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Today I made this mini Plains style quiver for a friend's new grandson. He built the bow(20"t/t) and arrows and I thought what good is a bow and arrows without a quiver. :thumbsup:
(https://i.imgur.com/KUzsqLT.jpg)
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Very nice Pat. :)
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x2 :thumbsup:
pass it on
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That is awesome, Pat..
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Cool quiver Pat...
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Thanks guys. It was a fun little project. It won't make it for Christmas but it should be soon after.
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My bow with riser and tip overlays glued on.
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Making maple core lams.
https://youtu.be/iCHSrbJkkcY
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Not sure how I survived before the Baby Drum.
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Me neither Stic.
Very nice quiver Pat!
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This better Maxi and Stickypops?
Denny heat treating yew bow.
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Jerry working on trilam.
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Mo better
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Roy that lam on the left has a flat spot . :)
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Ah crap not again?
I ran it through 10 times and it still comes out flatter than the first pass?
Hell wif it, I z spliced them up.
(http://i.imgur.com/qxFL2Ze.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qxFL2Ze)
(http://i.imgur.com/kp7KOkc.jpg) (https://imgur.com/kp7KOkc)
Cut the bow out today, next up is the farriers rasp to the sides to clean her up.
Feels very stout, hope not too stout:)
(http://i.imgur.com/kyphEXf.jpg) (https://imgur.com/kyphEXf)
(http://i.imgur.com/RqDjWsW.jpg) (https://imgur.com/RqDjWsW)
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You guys bows are looking good I guess it's the season for flat spots !
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what are all those bows over on the three racks.
mostakes :bigsmyl: :laughing:
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You have any idea how many guys come here to make bows?
They are bows in various stages of building.
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How many guys roy?
sounds like you guy's have a good time :thumbsup:
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Been as many as 8 at one time.
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Been as many as 8 at one time.
That's a lot of beer and flat spots! :)
I don't have to worry about flat spots cause my bench is so wavy!
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Flat spot check...
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Merry Christmas uncle Roy
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Thanks Josie Kay...
You also.
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Lmao,, she said no way unc Roy could get. That kinda deer... lol
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Come on, whad she really say..
LOL
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Flat spots mid to outers top limb Roy :cheesy: Merry Chrismas to all the TG family !!
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Thanks Ritchie, same to you and all.
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Hey Roy what length is your bow it looks to have good string angle at your draw length ?
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Nice job roy, looks really good
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It's 64 tip to tip, I draw 27.5
I heat induced a little reflex into the last 7 inches of the belly lam osage tips before glue up.
Thanks Mark
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I see it in the profile nice job , helps on the string angle nice bow how's it shoot ?you guys with shorter draw lengths are lucky with shorter bows and good string angle !
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Started on my 4B aka 'boo back board bow today. White Cypress (Callitris columellaris) fence paling with locally available boo from the same hardware. All told it was probably $30 for the wood and grass and I should be able to get 2 bows from the cypress paling, and few more from the boo allowing for splits etc. Inspired by a few builds such as https://ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=16184&p=168121&hilit=cypress#p168121 (https://ozbow.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=16184&p=168121&hilit=cypress#p168121).
Truth be told this is a complete experiment/new experience on my behalf. First time using 'boo backing, first time using this epoxy in a bow (used it plenty in wet composite layups), and first time using a vacuum to clamp timber - good ol' food saver this time, but I have a proper vacuum pump 4/5ths finished ready for service. Glued up flat, though I did play with clamping in some reflex to see if I can before sucking the vacuum down.
69" nock to nock, 1.25" wide through the middle tapering to ~5/8" at the tips with the limb tapering the last 20". 19mm thick at the handle tapering to 1/2" at the tips which is way too thick, pulling 50lb and yet to get to brace height. Modeled off plans I got somewhere (sorry can't remember to give credit). If you focus about 100m past the bow and after a few whiskeys, it might pass for an ELB :laughing:
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Slowly getting there, 45# @ 21". Slight stiff spot just off the fades on the right (nominal top) limb but do I need to get it bending more off the fades?
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Sitting on my butt resting. Shot 45 targets at a 3D shoot this morning in the damn rain.
But it was fun.
Best part of the day was watching 5 year old Teddy shooting:)
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Well we knew you would float and not melt. :bigsmyl:
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Nice Roy. Musta been a cold rain.
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Ya about 45 degrees.
Was nice walking and shooting though.
Feathers on the arrows didn't like it too well, they looked sick and flat:)
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Is that your grandson Roy?
You guy's are tough back there in PA, no socks or gloves!
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No not my grandson.
45 isn't cold, Flem:)
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I'd be wearing down booties and mitties :biglaugh:
I don't know about you guys, but I need to burn a few extra calories during the holidays and of course stay in shape for bow hunting. Not enough snow here for any fun, so here is my larda$$ preventer. Ice is unforgiving :scared:
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Flem, you'd burn more fat if the wheel was spinnin! :0
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Hmm dat tire gonna be otta balance so there be more lard skakin goin on :biglaugh:
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Those tire chains are so redneck! What a great idea!
Dave.
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I guess it's ok:)
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I ran out of zip-ties.
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Purty sweet chains!! Definitely redneck. Lol
If those don’t work, you could try studded tires.
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I see you got those fancy clip on pedals or do you just wrap bungee's around your shoes ?? :cheesy:
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Those pedals are definitely coming off for the snow riding! :scared: Putting on old school flats so I can wear boots
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Looks like a girls bike?
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I know some girls that could ride that thing much better than I can! They are also 30yrs younger than me.
Was walking out to the wood pile this morning and saw this;
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I got dressed to hunt yesterday, put on my east German wool pants and couldn't button the front top button. This is a first, I have kept my weight stable for years. 7 weeks ago I twisted my ankle to the point that I couldn't do my normal 10 miles a week walking or any walking for that matter, other issues kept me from lifting weights at the gym. I am only up to 3/4 mile on the ankle so far, it is going to be along recovery.
My buddies church has a huge fish fry on the first Saturday of the month that I really enjoy, it is coming up this Saturday. I will go on a low carb diet the next day, if I can keep my resolve I can drop pounds like a rock. The problem is this is the most boring diet on the planet, you have meat broccoli, cauliflower and cabbage one day and cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower and meat the next day.
Last time I followed this diet years ago I shed pounds very quickly, was never hungry and slept better than I ever did did but was bored to death with meals. It also took a lot more preparation for each meal than going out to eat or ordering a pizza.
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My Lard $$ preventer wont get traction in the snow at 19 lb but did 10 mi last week at 31 deg ! Dry pavement :cheesy:
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Eric if you want to do a low carb diet which I agree is a very boring long term diet you might want to look into or google intermeting fasting it gives you in my case better results then say Keto with much more flexibility does not require excersise but of course it helps even though Im a avid bicyclest former marathon rider in younger years but dont ride much more then 5 to 20 miles a week now & a ocasional 40 mi ride I keep my weight with in 8 % bmi plus my wife does it to & is with in 3% of hers at 62yrs all done with Medeterian diet and intermeting fasting & its easy ! Just a thought ! Not boring !