I've tried everything I know to do to make a tab work for me and it just won't work. Every time I about one I get slapped in the face.
I've read trim them, etc, but it hasn't worked for me yet. I believe the string is what's hitting me in the face.
Also, I feel like my anchor is not nearly as solid with a tab. But also feel the tab gives a smoother release than my glove.
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I've shot for over 50 years and I have never been able to use a tab.
I shoot bare fingers or a shooting glove. :dunno:
I've spent a lot of money on tabs. I love the idea,but it just feels very strange to me.
Everyone is different I suppose.
I've shot a tab since 1971, I don't shoot well with a glove.
If you're slapping yourself in the face then I suspect it's how you anchor and release.
I don't use a tab because I can't keep up with one. I'd have to buy a hundred and stro them everywhere. I also don't like fiddling with a tab on the end of my fingers.
A Smooth release is not up to a piece of magic leather, think about that again, a Smooth release is not up to a piece of magic leather. The Archer is responsible for a Smooth release.
Some tabs and some gloves are more comfortable than others, but all really offer only finger, nerve and ligament protection. They were not created to make a Smooth release or be a Band-Aid shooting Aid. Just figure out which one works best for you and which one is most comfortable for you.
I've killed a half a dozen animals at least without a glove. Yes sometimes I can't even keep up with a glove. :knothead:
And don't let people that paint with a broad brush put monsters in your head
A glove was good enough for Howard Hill. :campfire:
funny thing is, I used a tab, Black Widow, when I was going through my compound phase. I've tried a couple different brands, even made a few, but I just can't get the feel I like with them. I hunt and do my hunting season practice with a light 5-finger glove, either a cheapo Gorilla or most times the thinnest Mechanix, (I forget the name). Nothing better for me and I have tried them all
I have shot a glove for over 30 years and have been shooting a big shot glove for about the last ten years. I am hunting Alaska next year and in a trial run of gear this fall I realized my big shot glove would not easily fit into the trigger guard on my .44 mag. Well I have been trying to convert to a tab for the past month and things are going ok if I don't think about it too much. When I start thinking about my release I have issues. I know it is just a mental thing and if I stick with it it will become second nature just like a glove. Another benefit is not having to cut 3 fingers off my gloves for cold weather shooting/hunting.
Well, simple solution...don't use one. I shot with a glove for years. One day a guy at our bow club had a tab he wasn't using and asked if I wanted it. I tried it and haven't been able to go back to a glove in years now the tab just works so much better for me. I have bought and given away quite a few gloves in trying to use one again so I just stay with what works.
I haven't been able to yet. Maybe it's my anchor point. Maybe it's I'm not doing something right. Maybe I'm just not the brightest bulb in the box. (Actually that's a given) I'm going to try again this spring.
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You're not alone in not being able to use a tab. I have tried repeatedly with many different brands, but just don't like them. I have used them trimmed and even left them long. I know it is all in my head, but....
I have settled with dura-gloves. To each their own.
I've tried them and to some extent made them work, but I flat out don't like them.
Davis Mitchel has it right. Just don't use it if it doesn't work for you. Don't fret about it or give it a second thought. As long as the glove works, you are good to go. Oddly, I went the other way, starting out with a glove and changing to the tab.
I used to use a glove. I put one on now and it feels like a pillow strapped to my fingers. No way I could go back to a glove. It feels way too thick for me now, no string feel. Every person is different, just like buying boots.
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Yeah, people that won't commit to them and people that don't try a quality thick enough one.
I used a glove for more than 40 years and tried tabs several times during that period. Then, tried a Black Widow tab and it worked perfectly. Have since also adopted Bateman tabs. I expect I could shoot almost any brand tab now.
A little futzing to get the tab on the string vis-a-vis a glove, but enables a hold closer to the face, more in line with the eye. Also, easier to get off the string cleanly. I wouldn't say I'd never go back to a glove, but have been quite satisfied with a tab for the past 10 years or so.
BTW, if you're hitting yourself in the face with your draw hand, it's not being caused by the tab.
A beginner compared to most on this post but cant use tab, bare fingers or most of the time glove. Think it is a little of what you start with is how your preference and skills are developed.
Since many things can cause one to hit one's face when shooting, it might be educational to take a slo-mo video when you shoot, both with the tab when you hit your face and with a glove when you don't, so you can see if you can zero in on what's causing the problem. If you are successful, I'm sure some of us would like to see them, for our own edification.
If that's too much trouble, then just use a glove. To the many fine shooters who were already mentioned, I'll add Rick Welch, who will only use a glove because he believes he hits his face with a tab.
I'm weird. I shoot a glove for hunting and 3-D with a hunting style bow. For indoor and field archery I shoot a tab and a target bow. Back in the 60s and 70s I shot everything with a tab.
My only tip is I use the same references on my face with both and have no problems at all. Probably for hunting a glove, to me, seems more practical.
A friend let me try his SAM(super Archery mit) and it's almost like a hybrid. I shot it a good this this evening and am going to give it some further testing. It feels like a good compromise of both.
Dave,
I need to do the slow mo video. I've got some other flaws I need to work out too.
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Don't overthink it. Finger protection is SOMETHING taking the abuse of the string instead of the fingers. What that SOMETHING is doesn't matter. I hate to say it, but I'll never believe someone can't shoot with one or the other if they set their mind to it. Ever hear "I can't shoot a longbow, but I"m lights out with a recurve" or something to that effect? I just don't buy it. Mind over matter.
Switched to a tab years ago after taking Ron Jenkin's class. His comment that turned me from a glove was the reason he shoots a tab is because a glove is either getting broken in or worn out, very little time when it is right. It may take some time to get properly acquainted with tab but worthwhile to me.
I went back and forth and now stick with a glove, used to shoot a tab decent but can't any more
I currently use a American Leathers Kangaroo Crossover glove. Going on about four years. I use a tab (BW) with my ILF bow that's lower weight. It does take me a few arrows to get used to the tab agian
First few years, I went back and forth between glove and tab. Gradually, I found the glove felt more natural for me. Found that a thinner, soft glove (Damascus or a kangaroo leather) felt best. Now I find the tab feels very awkward, and just stick with a glove.
Quote from: katman on December 27, 2018, 05:45:42 PM
Switched to a tab years ago after taking Ron Jenkin's class. His comment that turned me from a glove was the reason he shoots a tab is because a glove is either getting broken in or worn out, very little time when it is right. It may take some time to get properly acquainted with tab but worthwhile to me.
I love Rod Jenkins but I have to totally disagree. I've had gloves for 10 years that we're not not broken in or just worn out. I really don't understand or could begin to understand that comment.
Both a glove and a tab are leather
..I'm not sure how one piece of leather wears out or is not broken in versus another.
Again a glove was good enough for Howard Hill.... and there's no way you're going to tell me that they're inferior based on what I've killed in my lifetime with a glove.
I want to make sure everyone knows I'm not knocking tabs. If a tab fits you better, and gives you more confidence, then by all means please use it. Just don't go saying gloves doesn't work because that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and I have proof based on my own experiences.
And again. I could care less if I had a glove or not when I'm hunting. It only serves his finger protection both a tab and a glove. If it didn't serve as protection no one would have invented it. Your lease is up to you not some magical mythical shape of leather.
Both the glove and the tab serve their purpose well.
It's just a personal preference to each individual shooter.
As a kid a buddy of mine shot a tab. He raved about it enough I bought into it. I tried for years and it just wasn't any different to me and way more problematic.
I haven't tried again and have no plans to.
Most of the responses on this have been refreshing. So often on this subject there are always the ones to tell you a glove isn't as consistent as a tab, if a tab isn't better why do all Olympic shooters use tabs etc.
For killing at 20 yards or less a glove should work.
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Never could get used to a tab. Using a glove with a back quiver just seemed easier to draw, nock and, shoot the arrow to me.
Deno
Can't pick your nose with a glove!
Quote from: Terry Green on December 28, 2018, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: katman on December 27, 2018, 05:45:42 PM
Switched to a tab years ago after taking Ron Jenkin's class. His comment that turned me from a glove was the reason he shoots a tab is because a glove is either getting broken in or worn out, very little time when it is right. It may take some time to get properly acquainted with tab but worthwhile to me.
I love Rod Jenkins but I have to totally disagree. I've had gloves for 10 years that we're not not broken in or just worn out. I really don't understand or could begin to understand that comment.
I think I understand Rod's comment. Saying a glove is worn out is too general of a statement. I think what Rod meant to say is that after using a glove for a while, there is a groove in the fingers where the string lays which makes it more difficult to get a clean release. After many thousands of shots from a Rod Jenkins tab, there is no groove or noticeable wear. I don't know why there is this difference, but that has been my experience and have read reports of others who have experienced this as well.
I've tried tabs from time to time. I won't say I can't shoot with them, but I don't like the way they feel. My draw and anchor seem much more solid with a glove.
Love the :archer: glove (to old :deadhorse: to switch) tried the tab never feels right. I also shoot split finger(but I teach new archers 3 under) same reason , just doesn't feel right :archer2:
I'm not traditional bowhunter because I like to pick my nose. There's no such thing as magic leather.
Don't use a Band-Aid for corrective surgery.
Gloves and tabs are NOT release aids... again they are NOT release aids.
Are you going to be the first one I hear that says... Oh, Oh ..I lost my animal!!! If I only had used a tab. :banghead:
Reports? How about reports from Hill, Bear Shultz, LeClare, Pearson, St Charlez, Pierce, Byron(shall I go on and on and on) are not credible?
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
One of my best friends, Mister Rob DiStefano, uses a tab. I'd put my money up against him making a shot without any tab or glove.
You use what is best for you... neither is going to make you a better shot that's up to you. And guess what don't fret if you leave your glove or tab behind if you go hunting. I promise at the moment of truth you won't know where you've got your Glover or tab on or not.
Didn't plan for this to go this way, Fellas.
I was just curious to see if others struggle to use a tab and it be as comfortable as a glove to them.
I do have an opinion on the tab vs glove and release and it is in line with Dave's. I've shot gloves and tabs on and off and the glove is what in more comfortable with, but I've always liked how a tab doesn't develop as bad of a grove where the string lies. I've seen it happen tons of times. I don't necessarily believe one if per say better than the next, but I do believe there is a reason you don't see gloves in Olympic archery.
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Daniel, Quit buying cheap gloves.
you ain't been shooting long enough to wear out one of my gloves. :goldtooth:
And I guess you miss seeing the gold medalist winner for America missing a deer on TV.... I guess it was his tab???
How many gold medalists have won 176 tournaments in a row?
I agree with Howard.
:biglaugh: :goldtooth: :biglaugh:
I've been using a black widow stik tite for a few years.
If there is a better one to buy, please let me know.
I'll gladly buy it.
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I think he is talking about American Leathers. I love Gloves ,i have a deep hook and the ones that hold up for me the best(groove) are the ones with nylon on fingers
Quote from: mec lineman on December 28, 2018, 02:22:41 PM
I think he is talking about American Leathers. I love Gloves ,i have a deep hook and the ones that hold up for me the best(groove) are the ones with nylon on fingers
I don't disagree that the American Leathers gloves (and many others) are quality gloves, but I just can't get used to any glove with plastic in the finger stalls. I have tried a Big Shot and a Crossover. I can't feel the string at all and feel like I have no control.
Much prefer several different style tabs over gloves.
That is one of the beautiful things about traditional archery, we can all shoot what we like the best.
Quote from: Hermon on December 28, 2018, 02:31:18 PM
Quote from: mec lineman on December 28, 2018, 02:22:41 PM
I think he is talking about American Leathers. I love Gloves ,i have a deep hook and the ones that hold up for me the best(groove) are the ones with nylon on fingers
That is one of the beautiful things about traditional archery, we can all shoot what we like the best.
Right, correct and not rely on Band-Aids and Magic :jumper:
Real trad archers don't use tabs or gloves!
It's bare fingers for me and my 80# longbow..
:laughing:
Well Ok, maybe I use a Bateman 3 under tab with cordovan leather.
My tab is 10 years old, over 10,000 shots, and there is no sign of wear or any kind of groove worn in it.
Buy the best and only cry once.
I bounce back and forth. Glove tab glove tab...I have found with a tab that my left misses decrease significantly due to getting tighter in to my face. I am liking a tab more and more but I don't like losing them LOL.
Shoot what ya can!
Get one glove and one tab. Shoot until you decided what you like. Put the other one away and leave it there.
It ain't majic and it ain't rocket science.
Almost forgot... don't try to save money. A cheap glove or tab won't last and it won't teach you a thing.
I remember when I was young I was getting beat all the time at shoots by guys with tabs,, so I tried the hottest tab at the time I think it was called a super archery tab? anyway first shot the tab came back and slapped the side of the mouth so hard I took it off and handed it to whoever it was standing next to me.... had a dang welt on the side of my face all day!!
I guess like tabs not all gloves are the same I have about 40 gloves hanging here that I bought an tried a few times and they just didn't feel right, the only glove I like is a traditional deer skin archery glove which I preferred the Martin archery gloves the best until they stopped making them,,, I like these gloves loose where they can slide off my fingers when I put my hand down..... I have a couple that I soaked and stretched out so I can wear thin gloves under them..
tabs are fine, gloves are finer but those thumb rings are just TOO COOL :thumbsup:
Yes sir, those were all the guys that got beat by Howard and his mystical magical glove. :goldtooth:
If you meant me nah ive never been beat by anyone shooting a hill that i can remember because nobody shot them i was getting tooled by the century 21 and matlock shooters shooting acc's back im those days :biglaugh:
The American Leathers gloves with the nylon strap finger tips, get a really smooth release if they are powder coated and they hold the powder very nicely. I prefer the Dr. Schulz travel size foot powder. Even though I always have a little shaker of foot powder with me, I would not advise that anyone stick their nose in my hunting boots. On the flip side, I have a Groves recurve that I shoot better with a KantPinch tab.
Be careful! Talcum powder killed Howard Hill.
I guess I'm the other way, I can't get comfy with a glove.
I started with a Tab, mainly due to not liking the idea of using a glove in really hot weather. Been using a Tab (3 under) pretty much ever since.
Did have a play with a Deer skin glove for a very short while, like a couple of days. It was ok, but I was not consistant with it it all, the shot just never felt right. If I had chosen to persevere, no doubt I could have worked it out and gotten along with it just fine, but the tab was doing everything right for me so I didn't see the need to change.
I guess that's another way we are all quite unique, we all like and happily use different stuff................... and that's just fine :bigsmyl:
Best
Lex
Shoot for one month without a tab or a glove and I'll bet you'd be happy to have either. :biglaugh:
Quote from: BWallace10327 on December 29, 2018, 08:49:34 PM
Shoot for one month shot without a tab or a glove and I'll bet you'd be happy to have either. :biglaugh:
Corrected it for you!
Quote from: DanielB89 on December 28, 2018, 01:06:31 PM
Didn't plan for this to go this way, Fellas.
I was just curious to see if others struggle to use a tab and it be as comfortable as a glove to them.
I do have an opinion on the tab vs glove and release and it is in line with Dave's. I've shot gloves and tabs on and off and the glove is what in more comfortable with, but I've always liked how a tab doesn't develop as bad of a grove where the string lies. I've seen it happen tons of times. I don't necessarily believe one if per say better than the next, but I do believe there is a reason you don't see gloves in Olympic archery.
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Good thread Daniel.. :thumbsup:
lotsa opinions here based on personal preferences / experience.
My introduction to the "glove" was in the midst of the original Howard Hill thread back a few years ago. Got me an ASL from HH Archery that was around 60#@27". Having been away from shooting for mebbee ten years I found that bow to be too much for me to pull comfortably for more than a few shots at a time
I had been a tab user prior to that going way back to the early 70s. I had always been a tab shooter (Kant-Pinch mostly) but decided to try a glove with my longbow. I bought a couple different varieties from American Leathers and they all worked well.
Fast forward to these past couple years, I found my ability to pull 60# (or even 55) was hampered by an increasing pain in my right shoulder at full draw (gettin' old) so, like some of you here I began the a draw weight downgrade to where I am now - pulling 41#@27".
I have tried to use my gloves with the lighter bows I shoot now but they were too cumbersome. Seemed to me there was not enough weight at full draw to facilitate a clean release. My lightest glove went to the St Jude auction. Went back to the tab....waaay bettah!
Rob D is a tab shooter...he also shoots lightweight longbows that he hunts with ...and some refined target bows that would require a bit of finesse (feel) to realize any degree of accuracy. I suspect the Olympic archers need to "feel" the string but we are hunters, eh?
I will echo "to each his own" and leave it at that. :wavey:
It doesn't bother me too much when these personal preference items turn into a debate as long as people don't get overly testy with their posts. The reason I say this is simple. Newbies hear many arguments on each side of the debate, which tends to encourage them to try different things for themselves rather than simply accepting one "expert's" unquestioned opinion. In short, it teaches them to find what they actually prefer through trying it for themselves. Or as Tony so aptly stated, "To each, his own".
Yes I am that's what I've been trying to play the whole time. I really don't understand the comment about which way this thread is going. I thought we're all pretty much saying the same thing comment to find what works for you then neither is best for everyone..... and not sweat the small stuff.
As far as taking experts advise, there's been several mentioned on this thread and they all don't use the same finger protection. Again, Point proven and no reason to throw either finger protection item under the bus.
I'm sorry if somebody got their feelings hurt, I thought we were just all having fun.
"Anyone just not able to shoot a tab?"
Yep.
The same thing arises over the Best aiming Style. Gene and Barry Wensel are twins, 1 uses the Gap method and the other uses the instinctive method. So each of those two Eileen styles is either successful, or they're both unsuccessful. You decide. So arguing over it is absolutely pointless.
:campfire: :campfire: :campfire:
I thought it was a great conversation.
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CORRECTION, I Typed Dr. Schulz, okay so I think about the things John Schulz told me quite often. It Dr. Scholl's foot powder and it does not have talc. The talcum powder that we were smothered with as babies was a hydrolyzed magnesium base, some even contained aluminum, which is an even more dangerous neurotoxin. Powdering the glove works very well, most products these days are a corn starch and zinc base.
Back to the subject, some like to 'feel' the string. I have noticed that 'feeling' the string with a fast flight serving has a lot more 'feeling' to it than a B50 string with a B50 serving. For me a heavy bow and a light tab ends up being a painful scenario after a bunch of shots and starts to effect my shooting.
If you ever want to hear an old woman say really nasty words, go ahead and touch my wife's American Leathers shooting glove with "your fat fingers".
I seem to be opposite from the majority here as have been shooting tabs with occasional forays with gloves. Maybe the gloves were cheap ones but never liked the grooves that formed and found it hard to come off clean. Use my cordovan tabs even in colder weather with thin wool gloves quite well. Don't really care what someone else shoots equipment wise but tabs have worked for me over 50 years. Not a tournament shooter -just a hunter.
Could never get used to gloves. Tabs for me. I like to feel the string and with a glove I always felt like it was too far from my face.
I'm sure I could get used to the glove but just like trying 3 under, i never gave it enough time
Tabs? Isn't that how the plague started?
I tried again with a BW tab last summer. I kept trimming it trying to keep it from slapping me. By the time I threw it away I had fired an arrow over towards the neighbor's place and tore my lips and nose off. Implement of self destruction, same as 3 under and fixed crawl. can't do any of that. It just isn't right.
Tedd
I've tried a tab, and it wasn't me... Buuut you should try em and see what works best for you.
The buck I shot last week didn't know I left my fave glove in the shop while testing another bow, I had a pair of lined fleece gloves in the truck so a couple shots with a judo to see if I was on and I went hunting... :)
I knew an archer that always showed with ten or twelve cordovan tabs in his shirt pocket, every one was just a little different, but all the same classic shape. Try that with ten or twelve shooting gloves.
For me with a tab there is no break in time, new tab shoot a couple arrows and I'm good to go. With a glove about the time it started o get broken in it was time foe a new one. Tabs just last longer for me, like almost forever.
I started with a tab, switched to glove, switched back to a tab, switched back to a glove, im back with a tab. really makes no difference , when I screw up its my fault. but a tab is easier to get in and out of your pocket when its cold and pushing buttons on a camera.
Quote from: Charlie Lamb on December 28, 2018, 10:05:14 PM
Almost forgot... don't try to save money. A cheap glove or tab won't last and it won't teach you a thing.
I have to agree with Charlie. I struggled for several years with which to use. When I used a tab the string would hit my nose because I was tighter into my face. After trying 8 or 10 different tabs I now just shoot a glove. I found that the Bear Paw glove fits me best.
who could care whether you use a glove or a tab???
well, you.
should you take advice as how to protect yer string fingers? NO. opinions of others are just that. there is no fast food way around a lotta things in life and this is one of them. be brave, buck up friend, and make decisions based on personal fact and not the hearsay of others,
this is yet another subjective choice in life and i just know yer gonna make the right choice, because what ever it is, it'll be the best one you'll ever make for ----- YOU.
:clapper: :campfire:
I shoot a glove and cut the ends off the fingers, just cannot do the tab.k
A glove is more comfortable/natural for me...of course I started with a glove, so I am sure that has something to do with it. Since early October I have been shooting a tab, not daily but real close. Went out to do little stump shooting this past weekend and realized I'd left my tab on the work bench. I keep a spare shooting glove in my truck so I grabbed it and off I went. Shot better than I have since, well, early October.
I am sure that if I had started off shooting a tab back in '84 I would be a dyed in the wool tab shooter. As Terry said, a tab or glove is just protection for the fingers. One of my buddies shot 70#+ selfbows for years with bare fingers. He shoots a homemade tab now that he cuts from scrap leather he gets at the craft store. Just use whatever works the best for you and have fun!
here's what we he-man use .... :shaka:
:deadhorse: :laughing:
switching to a tab was the best thing I ever did. Jeff Massie suggested I try one when I bought one of his longhorn longbows back in 2001 or 2002. Haven't shot with a glove since. I tried my old super glove a couple years ago before giving it away. Felt like I was wearing a catchers mitt.
I still have the cordovan tab I bought from big ed at Alaska Bowhunting supply back then too. They are easy to make from scrap leather. So I a few have spares around if I need them as well.
I can also shoot bare fingers well enough that I don't need it to hunt with a tab. I have either forgot my tab or dropped it once up in a stand and just leave it until I climb down. I've practiced enough without a tab that it doesn't bother me or get in my head if I don't have it.
Can't imagine ever using a glove again.
I used a glove for 40 yrs but switched to a tab a couple yrs ago.
It was a slow transition for me. I did have a problem at first with the tab slapping my face. I didnt have it trimmed enough.
Nothing wrong with a glove but if you keep slappibg your face with a tab, something just needs to be adjusted...trimming may help. Also, with a tab it allows you to get your hand closer to the face..if you collapse upon release at all...the tab can slap you.
I shot a glove starting out and for a lot of years. I eventually went to a tab. The tab was a lot more consistent for me. I just shot better, I couldn't argue the results. It did take a while to get use to the tab. I still have an old glove I shoot once in a while just to see if I feel the same way. I always go back to the tab. Whatever works for you is the correct choice.
Rather like my Fred Eichler cordovan solid tab as it works well for me shooting 3-under. Here's some of what I like about my tab:
I can quickly and easily turn it around on my middle finger which allows me almost complete use of my right/dominant hand. Helps when pulling arrows, reaching into my hunting pack, reaching into my pocket, etc. (Try not to pick my nose :nono:)
Goes quickly and stays well in my jacket pocket when the hunt is over. Comes out of my pocket and install quickly when needed.
I slide an arrow through the finger opening and then place the arrow with tab into my practice quiver when practice is over for the day. The tab hangs securely in vision until my next practice session. My practice quiver goes with me to archery deer camp, so my tab remains with me.
I can wear a light glove on my right hand under my tab when the MI weather turns colder. I don't find myself needing a glove often, but its comfortable when walking in/out of the woods.
I can write scores better on a 3D course when my tab is rotated.
I do carry a glove as a back-up in my hunting pack. Shoot it rather well.
Note: I generally discredit and tune-out folks when they use use words like 'always', 'never', 'best', 'worst' when telling their 'stories'. There are exceptions to 'always' and 'never' and there are folks/items better and poorer than 'best' and 'worst'. Those words tend to raise a red flag for me and cause me to question the credibility of the presented information. :archer2:
Practice - Practice - Practice - Beer! Seems to work for me.
Practice and beer. The secret of champions!
I couldn't agree more.
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Not sure the 'practice and beer' will get me to Champion level, but I do enjoy good competition.
Wait, at my age, real sure the 'practice and beer' will NOT get me to Champion level.
Wait, I'm heading for another beer, so I can better evaluate this maddening idea! :o
the thing is, once a glove or tab or whatever "speaks" to you, yer home and nothing else will do, literally forever.
each of us can break it down and show why something works "best" for each of us, and that's a good, personal thing. nothing else should and won't matter.
the not-so-good thing is if yer sittin' on a fence and can't seem to decide what yer string hand will wear. in that case, you ain't shot enuf arras yet. keep at it and you'll eventually know what will get wrapped around string hand fingers, and the bowstring. don't just stand at a butt and shoot, rove the woods, get into a more hunting situation and give that fingers protection a good work out.
:archer2:
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on January 10, 2019, 08:07:09 PM
.... don't just stand at a butt and shoot, rove the woods, get into a more hunting situation and give that fingers protection a good work out.
:archer2:
That's what convinced me to go with a tab over a glove even though I shoot both about the same considering +'s and -'s of both at the range. I wear gloves nearly every hunt, mostly for hand protection from vegetation and I also use my phone as camera, GPS, tracker etc. while hunting. With a glove, I had to take it off, do whatever, then put it back on again whereas with a tab I can simply spin it around my finger and leave it out of the way and takes very little movement. I now hunt with my tab on pretty much all the time so it can't fall out of my pocket while crawling on hands and knees and I don't have to go fumbling in my pocket if I manage to get in close to game without realising it.
Just gotta remember to take in the first place though :laughing:
Too many people on here assume because you haven't been on here long or have a low post count that your experience is somehow lesser.
Personally my trad experience is less than many. My bowhunting experience is more than many though. That said more of my hundreds of bow kills over the last 3 decades were under 20 yards than over. All of my traditional kills have been u der 20 yards.
Please don't try to invalidate a person just because they are new in the neighborhood.
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GCook, too many people, really?
If you're calling me out my point was more about who has the moral high ground to challenge others credibility on what amounts to human nature.
Who among us hasn't bought a new bow and said we'd never sell it?
I've said it at least a dz times in the last 20 years and lied every time. Is my opinion not credible then?
The low post count part of that is about throwing your weight around when few would know much about you as opposed to what you may actually know and have credentials to speak on. There's very little history here to read between the lines and again the critique used was subjective at best and an insult to many at worst.
Who steps up to a campfire and starts questioning the credibility of those around the fire already telling their stories?
Where I come from that's almost a certain ass whooping.
ftr, 1arrow pm'd me with a very cordial message and explanation and I replied in kind. There's no problem between us best I can tell.
Lastly, its very out of character for me to even bother responding the way I did and I'm still not sure what rubbed me wrong enough to bother responding in this case either. Regardless, I did respond and I stand by my comments for the reasons I just articulated. - eric
Hello My Brothers. I still vote for my cordovan tab. I also vote for PEACE and GOODWILL toward ALL MEN! Never meant to challenge anyone's credibility, just some of the information presented (as stated in my original post). Boys will be Boys (don't wanna grow up) and we each have differing life experiences. We each also like or dislike differing things and ideas. My wife's been teaching me for 39 years that 'My Way' is right for me, but that doesn't mean that 'My Way' is the 'ONLY' way, or that it's 'Right for Others'. I say. 'I'm learning' . . . she says, 'Not so much'. She Wins . . . AGAIN!
1Arrow1Kill - OUT! Time to Practice . . . :archer2:
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Im a glove man, but only for practice at home and shoots. When im hunting i only wear a thin camo glove thats slick enough for a few hunting shots. And besides if my fingers are so tender I cant take a hunting shot with a 50# bow ive got bigger problems. :biglaugh: i hate tabs for splitfinger. They feel cumbersome.
I shot a glove back in my compound days. It worked really well. Starting using a recurve to bowfish and kept the glove. Not sure why I tried a tab but about 10 years ago I did and that's what I use currently. Both work well, both feel good but I prefer the tab. I also practice bare fingers as well just in case I ever forget my tabs when I hit the woods.
An odd thing that I ran into this year. About 18 or 20 years ago a bowhunter came and talked to me about boots. The shoe fixer in town told him that his favorite hunting boots were a lost cause and they could no longer be patched up. He said that they were his 16th birthday present and they were only boots he owned. He just couldn't part with them. Remember those cordovan tabs with the sheep hide? We turned one of his boots into an arm guard and the other we traced my tab and made two tabs out of the other boot top. I ran into him this year over Thanksgiving. His arm guard is that old boot top, and he was shooting a longbow with one of those cordovan tabs. Does anyone make a cordovan tab with good boot grade leather?
Quote from: nineworlds9 on January 12, 2019, 11:45:11 PM
Im a glove man, but only for practice at home and shoots. When im hunting i only wear a thin camo glove thats slick enough for a few hunting shots. And besides if my fingers are so tender I cant take a hunting shot with a 50# bow ive got bigger problems. :biglaugh: i hate tabs for splitfinger. They feel cumbersome.
I agree. I actually take a few practice shots with my fingers fairly regularly so I can be ready should the opportunity ever arise.
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I will only say that I wanted to try a tab, but kept getting slapped in the face; especially around the lips.
I found out the tab was way too long. Arnie Moe has a great video about tab length. When you curl your fingers they are on the outside of the curve and the tab needs to be shorter than the fingers.
Made all the difference in the world. I can shoot with either, but like the finger freedom I get with a tab.
If you do want to try a tab, it needs to be a lot shorter than you might think.
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on January 10, 2019, 08:07:09 PM
the thing is, once a glove or tab or whatever "speaks" to you, yer home and nothing else will do, literally forever.
each of us can break it down and show why something works "best" for each of us, and that's a good, personal thing. nothing else should and won't matter.
the not-so-good thing is if yer sittin' on a fence and can't seem to decide what yer string hand will wear. in that case, you ain't shot enuf arras yet. keep at it and you'll eventually know what will get wrapped around string hand fingers, and the bowstring. don't just stand at a butt and shoot, rove the woods, get into a more hunting situation and give that fingers protection a good work out.
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Here 'tis...in a nutshell :archer:
Quote from: GCook on January 12, 2019, 09:34:58 AM
Too many people on here assume because you haven't been on here long or have a low post count that your experience is somehow lesser.
Personally my trad experience is less than many. My bowhunting experience is more than many though. That said more of my hundreds of bow kills over the last 3 decades were under 20 yards than over. All of my traditional kills have been u der 20 yards.
Please don't try to invalidate a person just because they are new in the neighborhood.
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Yep...!! :wavey:
Quote from: scott myers on January 13, 2019, 03:08:54 AM
I shot a glove back in my compound days. It worked really well. Starting using a recurve to bowfish and kept the glove. Not sure why I tried a tab but about 10 years ago I did and that's what I use currently. Both work well, both feel good but I prefer the tab. I also practice bare fingers as well just in case I ever forget my tabs when I hit the woods.
Kinda like me. I use what works...no matter what works for others. Its all good but better when you choose by first-hand experience.
I like a glove. l actually like a pretty substantial glove. But I can adapt pretty quickly when the need arises. Like when I forgot my glove one morning and needed something/anything to protect my fingers from the sting of the fairly heavy bows I prefer.
A business card and a pocket knife did the trick. I didn't have to use it, but there was a lot of peace of mind in that little piece of card stock.
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Nice Charlie. Necessity IS the mother of invention. After a closer look, it appears you have the very first Harry S Truman tab.
Well, you won't be seeing any tabs made from Benjamins any time soon. :saywhat:
I'm confused now.
So I think I'll just order a thumb ring..
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For really cold rabbit hunting, I found that a cordovan tab with rather stiff deer skin that is big enough to fit over a moderately warm glove, gives a really good release. I tried leather gloves, but mine are not warm enough and the string sinks in too deep.
tried, didnt like it