Post by: flyonline on October 15, 2018, 04:15:31 AM
Specs:
Imperial Archery 62" Hickory Tri-lam
50#@28" (my d/l as well)
2015 build
Photos make it look worse than it is, but my plan was to wick in some TB2 (thinned?) behind the splinter then clamp. Once dried, sand lightly to remove the finish then bind with something compatible, silk etc. and more TB2.
Sound like a plan?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on October 15, 2018, 06:58:47 AM
Then wrap it tight with string serving and soak the serving with super glue.
Is that the back of the bow or the belly side?
Looks like where the splinter started, it could run up a few more inches with the thin sliver of wood there.
Post by: flyonline on October 16, 2018, 02:16:36 AM
that's the back, so further lifting is likely and I'll reinforce well past the end of the crack towards the tip! My first thought was to wick in CA, however I've not had good experiences with CA once it gets wet and as this is a hunting bow it will get wet at some stage.
Cheers
Steve
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 16, 2018, 06:11:38 AM
That doesn't look like a very good piece of hickory on the back of that bow, as there are many grain run outs.
The ideal back of a bow is to get the wood to one single growth ring.
Post by: Pat B on October 16, 2018, 10:34:07 AM
Post by: flyonline on October 19, 2018, 10:41:29 PM
What's the easiest way to lift the splinter without making it worse and get the CA in there - bow stringer? Is a backing likely to increase the # much? Long story short, this is actually the second one of these I have after the 1st (40# version) developed serious chrysals in a very short time. I can see hints of a chrysal or two, but this has been shot a lot more than the first now.
Thinking silk will be the first option, sinew and/or rawhide are hard to come by over here so I might have to start keeping a few goat skins to cure up :biglaugh:
Post by: Pat B on October 19, 2018, 11:04:10 PM
Post by: flyonline on July 08, 2019, 05:48:28 AM
First wicked in some CA behind the splinter than clamped until dry. Then sanded down lightly to make it all flush and remove small ridges of CA before removing all the finish on the back and backing with 2x layers of very light linen and TB3. I also rounded the corners a little more in the process.
So now I've removed all the excess fabric/glue and feathered off the edges of the backing, I've started slowly exercising it up towards full draw length. Am I wasting my time, or should I continue?
With regards to finish, I don't know what was on there but is there any way to tell, or any particular finish that is compatible with most other finishes?
Thanks
Steve
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2019, 06:29:51 AM
Hard to say what the finish was, but when ready you could spray a polyurethane on it.
Ya got more pictures?
Post by: KenH on July 08, 2019, 07:17:53 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 08, 2019, 08:28:10 AM
Post by: Flem on July 08, 2019, 10:43:33 AM
I have a homemade hickory bow that has severe grain runout also. Those are the kind of bows you give away, not sell.
Have to get down now, getting dizzy up here on my soapbox :goldtooth:
Post by: Wolftrail on July 08, 2019, 11:25:32 AM
Surprised someone would sell a bow with such obvious grain violations. Guess sending it back from Australia isn't practical. If it was mine, I would be sure the maker knew what happened.
I have a homemade hickory bow that has severe grain runout also. Those are the kind of bows you give away, not sell.
Have to get down now, getting dizzy up here on my soapbox :goldtooth:
I would never give-a-away a bow with bad grain runout incase of breakage in someone's face.
Post by: Flem on July 08, 2019, 12:32:30 PM
You sure about that Dean?
I'd be happy to send some goggles with the bow :saywhat:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 08, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Post by: flyonline on July 09, 2019, 05:20:38 AM
I can't really complain, this was given to me as a winner for writing a story on a local Oz bowhunting forum and came from the estate of a deceased member who had an extensive collection of bows and memorabilia. Ironically(?) this was a replacement for another of the exact same bow except in lower poundage I was originally gifted that developed bad frets at the top of the fades. A search doesn't bring up anything relevant on the maker, though I do remember finding something somewhere when I got the first bow a year or so ago.
Thread probably would have been my first choice for a one off local splinter, but Roy pointed out the chances of more developing, so I went for full coverage
Photos when I get a chance.
Thanks gents.
Post by: Forwardhandle on July 09, 2019, 08:00:57 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 09, 2019, 09:06:11 AM
Post by: flyonline on July 10, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
Post by: flyonline on July 13, 2019, 02:37:17 AM
It shoots fine, I've checked it over very closely after each session and I can't see any evidence of change in the backing so I'm calling it good for now and moving on. I'll leave it as is for the moment, then do a final cosmetic clean up of the backing and then give a final finish when it's had a couple of hundred arrows through. I had forgotten how low a spine it will need, so it might take me a bit to come up with something in the weight range and spine that I've got. It does seem to like a heavy arrow though - just mucking around I had up to 770gr flying pretty good.
A couple of photos sitting on my red wine vinegar barrel.
(https://i.imgur.com/EEhj2kh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gyApY6L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yTZVfAf.jpg)
Thanks again for all your help :thumbsup:
Steve
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 13, 2019, 04:43:32 AM
You did very well sticking with it, congrats.
What's the weight on it?
Post by: flyonline on July 13, 2019, 05:52:27 AM
Er, sorry that should ready HIGH spine (as in 500 vs 340 for my other 50's), even with a part shelf cut in. Did some more playing today and a xx75 in 500 with 100gr insert, 125 point and 50gr brass footing is very close to perfect tuning which comes in just on 630gr and 19% FOC (if that's your thing).
Steve
Post by: Fishinglink on July 13, 2019, 08:46:54 AM
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Post by: Flem on July 13, 2019, 12:26:31 PM
Post by: flyonline on August 13, 2019, 05:14:16 AM
Further inspection showed a serious crack across the other limb, so it looks like this bow is toast. Still, I learned some from it and I was impressed that the light backing held the splinter as I never heard any noise unlike last time.
(https://i.imgur.com/LSfx33D.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2vhBPE0.jpg)
Vertical crack almost directly through middle of pic
Got a Root/Shakespeare Warrior arriving soon so I'll be back to shooting wood in no time :goldtooth:
Post by: Flem on August 13, 2019, 11:55:56 PM
Post by: flyonline on August 14, 2019, 05:04:20 AM