Post by: Shredd on September 22, 2018, 12:23:03 PM
I was thinking the stretcher was the issue and I may be over stressing the fibers... It has about 115 lbs. of tension on it... A 45# bow has about 80 to 90# of tension on it and when it is shot I am sure the stresses go well above 150#...
Are there any suggestions out there for string that works well and looks good when unstrung.?? I just want to try different strings to see how quiet and fast they can be... I got the 8125G because it's been around and it is supposed to be easy on the bow limbs and I believe the Olympic shooters use it... If they use it you know it's gotta be good... :thumbsup:
Post by: Forwardhandle on September 22, 2018, 12:49:15 PM
Post by: Bvas on September 22, 2018, 01:04:08 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 22, 2018, 02:31:59 PM
Post by: Bvas on September 22, 2018, 03:02:33 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 22, 2018, 05:21:49 PM
I have not compared the two strings as far as speed and quietness... Once I do and the BCYX does not stand up, I am canning it... If it does I will use it for what it is good for and mostly personal use... I would just hate to ship out a bow with a defective looking string... I think I am gonna try some Mercury and Angel Majesty... I have heard good about both... And they are made of just one type of fiber...
Post by: Bvas on September 22, 2018, 07:26:45 PM
Do you put any twist in the string before stretching? I’m still using good old b50, but I always put 3 or 4 twists in before stretching. That might help keep the fibers from separating.
Post by: Shredd on September 22, 2018, 11:09:32 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 23, 2018, 05:13:29 AM
I can't see how a bad spool of string would put all the bad spots in the same place as you wrap the string around your jig. It almost looks like that spot was wrapped around a small hook.
What's your jig look like?
Post by: Shredd on September 23, 2018, 10:23:29 AM
It just does not seem right that a string should do this... Something looks stressed...
Every BCYX string I made does this... Even before i had a string stretcher...
Post by: Flem on September 23, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
Yes, Flemish twist with 452X.
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 23, 2018, 02:42:06 PM
Chad Weaver, he is a sponsor here.
http://www.recurves.com/
Post by: Shredd on September 23, 2018, 07:37:32 PM
I lied... They are 1/4" pins on my jig...
Post by: LBR on September 23, 2018, 10:20:13 PM
Call BCY and ask to speak with Roger. More than likely he will offere to send you a new spool of material.
Post by: Shredd on September 23, 2018, 10:49:19 PM
I am gonna call them tomorrow...
Thanks Chad...
Post by: LBR on September 24, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
Post by: LBR on September 24, 2018, 11:34:23 AM
Post by: Shredd on September 24, 2018, 12:09:36 PM
I don't think I am over stretching it... I have put it on a bow before I had a string stretcher and have had the same issue...
Thanks again...
Post by: Shredd on September 24, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I have been spinning the spool in my hand but it works up a little heat from the friction...
Post by: LBR on September 24, 2018, 12:35:39 PM
I don't think it matters how it comes off the spool, but I let the spool spin between my fingers or if it gets warm I'll grab a screwdriver and let the spool spin on that.
If the material kinked up from just being on a bow, definitely a bad spool. With the amount of material BCY runs every day, it's going to happen...but it's rare. I've used hundreds of pounds of BCY materials over the last 20+years I've been using BCY...as best I can recall, I've run across maybe two 1/4# spools that weren't right--they were replaced, no problem.
Post by: Shredd on September 24, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
Post by: LBR on September 27, 2018, 10:50:11 PM
Post by: Shredd on September 27, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
Post by: LBR on September 28, 2018, 09:49:14 PM
That kind of customer service is par for the course for BCY. One of the main reasons I went to them some 20 years ago and have used them exclusively ever since (well that and superior quality, innovation, color selection, material selection...you get the picture). I'd never heard of them way back when. I'd just tried to get dealer status with the other company and the CSR I spoke with basically told me I wasn't worth their trouble, go through a distributor...and she wasn't the least big friendly about it. A friend turned me on to BCY, so I called. Spoke with a guy named Ray (who wound up being a co-owner and co-founder), and he treated me like a million dollar customer...and continued to do so from then on. Now I call Ray a friend, but back then he didn't know me from Adam's house cat. A few other things I learned (BCY doesn't brag about it)...
Ray (Browne) and Bob (Destin), the co-founders of BCY, are the inventors of the original Fast Flight material. They were working for Brownell at the time, and named the material in Ray's dining room. Bob also invented the first blended material, 450 Premium (which became 450+, 452X, BCY-X, and most recently X-99). Every major innovation in bowstring material since B-50 has been due to these two.
In case you are wondering...Ray and Bob didn't leave Brownell to start a competing business. I don't know the full details, but the short version is they wanted to buy Brownell's string making division (back then Brownell was into lots of different things), since they were responsible for putting it on the map with "Fast Flight". That didn't bode well with someone, and they wound up leaving the company. Bob went to work at a thread company, Ray bought a steel cable company and was running it. It was later on when they came together and started BCY, and the rest is history.