Post by: EwokArcher on July 19, 2018, 07:47:44 PM
Dont mind the mess just wrapping up some projects :biglaugh:
Post by: Wolftrail on July 19, 2018, 07:52:04 PM
Only thing I would do different is build a concrete slab level with the floor outside for sliding out the table saw and other power tools.
Post by: EwokArcher on July 19, 2018, 08:01:04 PM
I like the exhaust fan idea I'll think it over. I guess they are shuttered and I'd have to frame out the hole I cut.. probably worth a google.
Post by: kennym on July 19, 2018, 08:29:07 PM
Post by: EwokArcher on July 19, 2018, 08:37:48 PM
There is still winter time to consider. I have a little propane heater that can really knock the edge off of our already mild winters. But I've pretty much still had to leave the door open due to dust build up. Which also keeps me from being able to run heater. Maybe I should do the dust collection and try that fan window trick. How big of a difference do those things make compared to like a shop vac. Here is what I'm looking at.
Post by: kennym on July 19, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
It pulls all the dust from the big sander through 20 some feet of 4" pipe , I thought it would be the worst dustmaker.
The tablesaw is actually the worst because I (gulp) don't have the plexi shield on the blade because it hinders vision on what you are doing. So it spits chips and dust out a lot.
The edge sander loses some off the side of table but dust collector still gets a lot of it too.
Post by: wood carver 2 on July 19, 2018, 09:22:50 PM
Dave.
Post by: pditto613 on July 19, 2018, 10:22:41 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 19, 2018, 10:47:22 PM
Get the big dust collector and buy a dust deputy along with it and you will cut your dust by 80%
https://www.oneida-air.com/inventoryD.asp?item_no=AXD000004A
Post by: EwokArcher on July 20, 2018, 07:27:59 AM
Post by: Forwardhandle on July 20, 2018, 07:54:43 AM
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 20, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
You are wise to wear the respirator, a large number of us old bow makers have developed an allergic reaction to several types of wood dust, in my case just about everything but pine.
My collector is big and powerful but sounds like a B-52 taking off when it is running. Consequently I have installed it in an adjacent room to my shop with a heavily insulated wall in between so I don't have to listen to it.
(https://i.imgur.com/CBzUTCI.jpg)
Post by: C. Johnson on July 20, 2018, 12:18:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MGQjxBK.jpg)
Post by: C. Johnson on July 20, 2018, 12:25:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/BEv3LpF.jpg)
Post by: C. Johnson on July 20, 2018, 12:26:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CMU1c45.jpg)
Post by: Robertfishes on July 20, 2018, 01:23:18 PM
Post by: Wolftrail on July 20, 2018, 03:51:40 PM
I don't know much about HVAC but if you put the fan to blow out the window with some sort of shroud to make it pull all shop air and pulled air in the big door, wouldn't it move more air? Just a thought...The window idea is perfect but limited to the window size. Although that small shop should be adequate with a smaller window fan.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2018, 03:58:37 PM
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Post by: wood carver 2 on July 20, 2018, 04:50:54 PM
I keep my shop spotless..After seeing this, I won't even post a picture of my shop. It looks like someone dumped a truckload of wood and machinery and sawdust into my garage and then shook the whole thing. :)
Dave.
Post by: kennym on July 20, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
Just messin with yer mind, bro! :goldtooth:
Nice tidy shop! Wish mine looked like that some time...
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2018, 07:38:09 PM
That was taken before the first bow was built.
:wavey:
Post by: kennym on July 20, 2018, 08:26:17 PM
Post by: Bvas on July 20, 2018, 08:52:36 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2018, 09:11:52 PM
Post by: jess stuart on July 20, 2018, 10:19:13 PM
Post by: Forwardhandle on July 21, 2018, 04:46:30 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2018, 06:23:49 AM
LOL
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 21, 2018, 07:54:42 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 21, 2018, 08:00:35 AM
Then I sweep up the heavy stuff with a broom, the kind of broom Kennym rides.. :laughing:
Then I open both windows and the door and start at one end with the air hose and blow all the dust out the door.
I get a natural air flow from the wind coming up the hill, it comes in the windows and out the door.
Looks like an orange tornado going out the door.
A dust mask is required when I do that.
Post by: monterey on July 21, 2018, 10:37:40 AM
I let the saw dust and crap wood build up till I can't stand it anymore.
Then I sweep up the heavy stuff with a broom, the kind of broom Kennym rides.. :laughing:
Then I open both windows and the door and start at one end with the air hose and blow all the dust out the door.
I get a natural air flow from the wind coming up the hill, it comes in the windows and out the door.
Looks like an orange tornado going out the door.
A dust mask is required when I do that.
Roy, can't believe you need any assistance from mother nature in the wind department. 👿
Ewok, depending on where you are in OK and the relative humidity, you might be able to to cool the shop with an evaporative cooler.
Post by: EwokArcher on July 21, 2018, 12:58:54 PM
Thanks for your input everyone.
Post by: C. Johnson on July 21, 2018, 08:54:55 PM
Clean shop?? Clean all day then saw and get ready for a couple of bows need to clean again then repeat. :dunno:
This is my procedure as well. :biglaugh:
Post by: fujimo on July 25, 2018, 11:53:21 AM
http://www.clearvuecyclones.com/
many units are tested in a lab, to obtain their efficiency %, not real world, with longer lines and bends etc.
read up about Bill Pentz and his research, and his design.
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyclone/
Post by: kennym on July 25, 2018, 05:41:01 PM
Yup my broom is turbocharged, but I don't have the gas to use it as much as Roy does his.... :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 25, 2018, 06:34:03 PM
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Post by: EwokArcher on July 26, 2018, 10:58:18 PM
Post by: Wolftrail on July 29, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
You can pick up a good used FQ for about $25. A good motor will last at least 15 years, for making bows this is more than ample.
Post by: kennym on July 29, 2018, 05:37:39 PM
I tried necking my big collector down to " to try to catch more stuff on top of my table saw, it seemed to draw a lot less air. Maybe the 4" pulls easier than 2" tube ??
Post by: Wolftrail on July 29, 2018, 07:24:22 PM
Post by: fujimo on July 29, 2018, 07:46:25 PM
keep the pipes as big as you can, then have the constriction nozzle right at the end.
i run 8" pvc for my main overhead trunking, with 6" drop lines- all going through 2x 45 degree bends- keep the bends wide!, and then they neck down to the machine size right at the machine, also use 6" gate valves.
dont forget the static electricity wire !! that is grounded to the dust collector and each machine
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 30, 2018, 08:21:18 AM
Post by: fujimo on July 30, 2018, 09:09:41 AM
i also used to run one copper wire inside, and one spirally outside, and using pvc pipe they are critical, but a pain when everything hooks on them, all one needs is a spiral wire on the outside, and a small self-tapping screw every two feet or so, that is attached to the wire in the outside, and only just penetrates the wall through to the inside, to de-energize any static on the inside. i run the screw in, then back it out and grind the point nice and round, then run it back in.
i guess one could put as many as made a fella feel safe, but they told me one every 2' was more than enough. those wires would drive me crazy snagging everything, especially where they are on the inside of the curves and bends.