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Title: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:33:08 PM
I decided instead of bocote, I would put together an all MO woods forward handle longbow to put in my stock bow blank empty slot... :)
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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:37:15 PM
Walnut/Osage riser with maple accents. Walnut veneers and red elm cores. Think it’s gonna look pretty good ...


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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:37:44 PM
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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
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My scarf sanding jig to join short land into long ones...


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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
Riser back cut, will put lams and glass on form and clamp on top to check glue line with light behind it.


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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:41:31 PM
oops
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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 12:42:41 PM
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Post by: Forwardhandle on July 14, 2018, 01:33:31 PM
I'm liking that combo  :thumbsup:
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Post by: monterey on July 14, 2018, 02:32:13 PM
Gonna be pretty!
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Post by: kennym on July 14, 2018, 03:45:53 PM
She is in the easybake oven now...
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Post by: Shredd on July 14, 2018, 04:50:55 PM
Those lams look nice...
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Post by: kennym on July 15, 2018, 06:50:28 PM
The BearPaw glass is very clear.... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180715/0422d5ff93f724b01faf32467fc120be.jpg)


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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 15, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
Purty snazzy ole boy..
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Post by: mwosborn on July 15, 2018, 09:48:17 PM
Very nice!
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Post by: hunting badger on July 16, 2018, 01:06:03 AM
WOW, Kenny, that some very nice wood!! can't wait to see the bow!! Do you have the plans for that bow on sale?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on July 16, 2018, 06:58:04 AM
My walnut aint that purty   :dunno:
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Post by: kennym on July 16, 2018, 07:21:38 AM
That was a really skinny scrap pc I couldn't throw away!  It sat in the corner for years and I finally sawed it up into really skinny veneers. Actually still had saw marks that I strategically placed to be ground off during profiling... I hope...  :o

No plans drawn yet, still R&D on it...
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Post by: C. Johnson on July 16, 2018, 12:13:16 PM
Your Kung Fu is strong Kenny!  I like it!
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Post by: Bvas on July 16, 2018, 03:32:16 PM
Next time your gonna throw away wood like that......just put a ship it to me.  I'll take care of disposal for ya :goldtooth:
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Post by: bow loving man on July 17, 2018, 04:07:09 PM
Kenny's trash barrel is full of great treasures!  It is one of my favorite place to dig around!   :goldtooth:
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Post by: Bvas on July 17, 2018, 04:56:07 PM
Kenny's trash barrel is full of great treasures!  It is one of my favorite place to dig around!   :goldtooth:
That’d be a looong drive for me to go dumpster diving :o
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Post by: kennym on July 17, 2018, 06:30:04 PM
Actually not a trash barrel, just stuff that can't be easily used and yet I can't throw it in a real trash barrel! :laughing:
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Post by: Bvas on July 17, 2018, 06:40:03 PM
So it’s the......I may use that some day barrel.
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Post by: bow loving man on July 17, 2018, 06:48:04 PM
Scrap barrel!!!
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Post by: kennym on July 17, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
A lot of it will only make one pair of lams, and I rarely get calls for a single side of a bow. The walnut I had thrown in there because it was a decent pair,  and then decided to split them and if it didn't work, burn em.

I think they made around .020 with some saw marks on the edge on the back of one.  :o
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Post by: bow loving man on July 17, 2018, 08:11:59 PM
I’m sure it’s going to make a great looking bow when you are done!
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Post by: Carpdaddy on July 25, 2018, 10:19:35 AM
So does someone have to buy it in order to see it finished?  :o  :)
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Post by: kennym on July 25, 2018, 05:43:53 PM
LOL, no but it has been on the back burner for a bit.  You know, MOJAM and getting caught up on the yardwork and stuff. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Carpdaddy on July 26, 2018, 09:06:59 AM
 :laughing: Send it to me, I’ll finish it, and send pictures back to you!  :biglaugh:
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:34:50 PM
A little more testing, pulled 44.51@28 so to check the gain on a 2” pike , I filed nocks for 58” in. That brought it to 51.66 which is about what I expected. A bit more gain than the other d/r bows for a 2” pike.
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:35:58 PM
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:36:27 PM
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Title: Re: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:36:55 PM
Might be able to go to 56 after a bit more testing


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Title: Re: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:44:28 PM
Guess this one isn’t a blank anymore either... lol


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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:45:02 PM
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Title: Re: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 05:46:47 PM
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Post by: C. Johnson on August 12, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
Looks great Kenny!  Your Kung Fu is strong!
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Post by: stickmonkey on August 12, 2018, 09:19:14 PM
I like it! Do you have an FD curve on it somewhere already Kenny?
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 09:40:04 PM
Thanks Craig and Shane!!

LOL,I do have a FDC somewhere and will try to find it but I was hoping to cut it to 58 with good results and it didn't draw as far as I hoped....

Will try to find and post the 60" DFC..
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Post by: Bvas on August 12, 2018, 10:04:01 PM
Looking good kenny.

What kinda brace height ya got?
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 10:14:18 PM
Looking good kenny.

What kinda brace height ya got?
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 10:15:38 PM
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Post by: kennym on August 12, 2018, 10:16:50 PM
7” Brad


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Title: Re: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: Forwardhandle on August 13, 2018, 04:12:27 AM
I love the osage / walnut combo , I found on mine 7 1/4 brace gives me the best arrow flight but Im shooting 32.5 arrows @ 31 in.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on August 13, 2018, 06:36:28 AM
Looks pretty smoov  :shaka:
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Post by: Dannon on August 14, 2018, 09:37:25 PM
Nice!!
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Post by: kennym on August 15, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
Thanks guys! Sorry for the slow progress, my stuff gets worked on last.. lol
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Post by: onemississipp on August 15, 2018, 10:50:48 PM
Love those handle forward designs.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 16, 2018, 07:18:00 AM
Nice dude.
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Post by: BLOB on August 16, 2018, 08:56:56 AM
If you need someone to do some long term testing let me know... :biglaugh:
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 05:42:26 PM
Piked it to 58” and made a dfc on it.
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 05:43:06 PM
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
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Title: Re: 60" Forward handle blank coming up...
Post by: Forwardhandle on August 18, 2018, 05:56:16 PM
Wow thanks for posting that, that curve for that short of bow is awsome , looks like at my 31 in draw the 60'' is the shortest for a great curve that bow looks awsome bend at 28'' did you shoot it yet ?
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
Yep, shot a couple fletched arrows from back porch at 24ish yards. flew funky but hit in a 6" circle on target.

Bare shafted and arrow was way limber, no silencers on it tho.  A little twangy, silencers will slow it and finish sanding will take a lb or 2 so it may shoot them just fine....

If it shoots that good when I'm done, the TD may have competition this fall. Both are in my preferred weight...
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 06:34:39 PM
Wondering what a parallel limb with a power lam would do ….  dang thinkin anyway :o
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Post by: Forwardhandle on August 18, 2018, 07:19:21 PM
Only one way to find out !  :archer:
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Post by: Bvas on August 18, 2018, 07:38:26 PM
Wondering what a parallel limb with a power lam would do ….  dang thinkin anyway :o
Wouldn’t those kinda counter each other???  Power lam forcing outer limbs to work more. And parallels making the inner limb work more.
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Post by: kennym on August 18, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
Maybe, but looking at the limb ends, I was thinking they would unroll a little more at my draw without a tip wedge...

Not sure if that would help anything but... :)
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Post by: Forwardhandle on August 19, 2018, 04:53:09 AM
I wonder what would happen if you just skipped the tip wedges if it would have the tip profile like the R/D ,I wonder if one could be made with no PL or tip wedges or no taper on the lams ?  :dunno: your right to much thinking darn Disease  :goldtooth: [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Post by: Todd McDiffitt on August 19, 2018, 07:43:12 AM
Man that looks sweet!!!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on August 19, 2018, 08:54:16 AM
Tip wedges help string angle and lets the limb load a bit quicker on the bottom end. Paralells would make the limb more even all the way out. power lam moves the working part out futher. LET the thinking begin  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 19, 2018, 09:46:13 AM
Yer gonna drive the old coot from Mo crazy..

 :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on August 19, 2018, 10:19:02 AM
Gonna, he  :laughing:  ll I'm already there!!
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Post by: Forwardhandle on August 20, 2018, 04:50:44 AM
Hey Kenny sense you opened this can of worms & we never go of topic around here 😃 what do you think would happen to the center bend profile if you skiped the power lam ? Im not talking my current build just future designs ?
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Post by: kennym on August 29, 2018, 10:01:26 PM
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Post by: Forwardhandle on August 30, 2018, 04:52:18 AM
How does that little guy feel when shooting , how far can you pull it ??
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Post by: SteveD on August 30, 2018, 06:01:26 AM
Very Nice Kenny. Beautiful bow
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Post by: Crooked Stic on August 30, 2018, 07:17:59 AM
Yellow and brown are good together !!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 30, 2018, 08:06:55 AM
Yer just diggen that Osage wood, hain't cha son?

LOL..

Very nice, Kenny...
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Post by: kennym on August 30, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
Heck I can pull it 32" if it don't get hung behind my ear!!  See the DFC chart , it slowly starts picking up weight about 30" look s to me..

Mike and Roy , the osage looks great with walnut!
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Post by: Forwardhandle on August 30, 2018, 04:52:11 PM
Dont pull it behind your ear you will take your ear off...lol  I thought you where piking that little girl to 56 ''
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Post by: kennym on August 30, 2018, 05:02:54 PM
No, just 58" , think I'd do something diff on taper and riser length for 56, maybe a different form altogether.

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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 30, 2018, 06:14:37 PM
Yupper osage and walnut are cool..

Osage is cool...

Now don't be using all my Osage out there son...

 :laughing: :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bvas on August 30, 2018, 08:36:52 PM
Nice looking stick Kenny!

That walnut Osage combo is growing on me, good thing I got some Osage riser wood drying in the garage.  ;)

What kind of riser length/power lam you using in that kenny?
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Post by: kennym on August 30, 2018, 08:45:53 PM
16" riser, using the superlam with 11" of powerlam in it. 

I'm getting to like native woods more and more...
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Post by: Bvas on August 30, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
16" riser, using the superlam with 11" of powerlam in it. 

I'm getting to like native woods more and more...
Ya kinda lost me there.....So with normal lams, that would be kinda like a 22” powerlam?

And yeah, Might not get as fancy grains and colors, but native woods are so much easier to work and can be just as attractive.  (Mostly. Lol)
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Post by: kennym on August 30, 2018, 09:01:57 PM
Sorry, yes the super has to be joined in middle of bow so 22" total power  lam!  :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 31, 2018, 06:23:16 AM
geeze..

powerlams

superlams

whats next

gwass lams?
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Post by: skeaterbait on August 31, 2018, 06:46:31 AM
geeze..

powerlams

superlams

whats next

gwass lams?

Yes, they can be called the "Epic Lam"
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Post by: kennym on August 31, 2018, 07:24:22 AM
It has two boo gwass lams in it . LOL
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Post by: Roy from Pa on August 31, 2018, 07:28:11 AM
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It has two boo gwass lams in it .

Well I'll be dipped:)
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Post by: EwokArcher on August 31, 2018, 03:28:44 PM
Great looking bow kenny I like how that forward handle is laid out.
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Post by: ron w on September 16, 2018, 10:07:11 PM
Pretty neat stuff........ :clapper: :thumbsup: