I have only used a few broad heads and they all had to be sharpened before being hunting sharp. Is there a screw in BH out there that is hunting sharp right out of the package?
-Charlie
Depends on what kind of a head you are looking for. I have Muzzys and Thunderheads that are awesome heads and razor sharp ready to go out of the box!!
Try the Magnus Stinger. :thumbsup:
I like Magnus Stingers.
stinger comes very sharp and is easy to touch up
Charlie,..you beat me to it.Must have posted at the same time.
Razorcap so far.
if your a bargain hunter the first cut broadheads are very sharp outta the box, and cost about 12 bucks a 3 pack
All Steel Force Broadheads. Try the 150 Hellfire or 125 Titanium. No sharper IMO.
thunderheads are consitantly scary sharp out of the box.Face shaving sharp which is differnt than arm shaving sharp
Silverflames,Zephyr,and Magnus Stingers. All of these are very sharp right out of the package.
Bill
Magnus Stingers and Muzzy.
Stingers and razorcaps, my go to heads with carbons and brass inserts.
Maybe the Stingers and Muzzy Phantoms have improved. Mine came sharp everywhere but the tip. Both heads came with a flat edge at the tip and I had to sharpen both of them.
Silverflames, Steelforce, Thunderheads.
The sharpest broadheads out of the pack that I've ever bought were the NAP series of mechanicals (Shockwave, Spitfire, and Scorpian). I've never found a broadhead as sharp as those mechanicals straight out of the pack. Of course, mechanicals are not the best for trad bowhunting :rolleyes: :D I was quite disappointed with the Magnus Stingers. I thought they were quite dull out of the pack. I use Snuffers and Zwickeys now, so they have to be sharpened! ;) :thumbsup: Depends what weight broadhead you want. Most of the heavier broadheads you'll have to sharpen before you hunt with them.
Razorcaps
Sharpest blade out of the pack are Slick Tricks. Can't recommend them for a stick bow however. Second sharpest are Stingers can recommend them for stick bows.
Silver Flames by far.
Haven't used the Silver Flames but the Zephers are surgical sharp out of the box or bubble pack.
Mike
Just got 2 packs of Silver flames from Mr. Herb...they are without a doubt the sharpest...I liked them so much I just ordered some 180..now I have 150 and 180 for my pig hunt in april...this is the best place on the net!!!! :)I have worked in a archery bow shop have tried all mentioned , they dont come close to German Kinetics silver flames PEROID!!!!!!out of the box
Stingers, also the
G5 BH's are very sharp also.
Silver Flames are so sharp you almost can't do any thing with them. The first time I drew one the back side of the blade touched my finger. it bled for an hour
Yeah Mike....the Zephrys are sharp out of the pack....very sharp....and easy to keep them sharp as well. Probably the 2nd sharpest head I've ever bought 'out of the pack'.
The Razorcaps and Muzzy Phantoms have been really straight. I don't worry too too much about sharpness out of the package as I shoot all my arrows once or twice with the bh to make sure they are shooting properly. Then I sharpen them to my liking.
Razorcaps
'nuther vote for silverflames. If you even LOOK at them directly you cut your eye.
Silver Flames sharpest on the market -- herb
I vote for silver flames---definately the sharpest I have seen---they shave you good--good idea to wear leather gloves when handling too!
Silver Flames.
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
Honestly, the only folks that don't think Silver Flames are the sharpest are the only ones who haven't handled one. They are the benchmark for what sharpness it. Expensive, yes. Worth it, yes.
Ya'll know what I'm going to say as i have said on here for a couple of years now........German Silver Flame
Forget it...$35 a piece? I'm out.
QuoteOriginally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
Forget it...$35 a piece? I'm out.
Not sure where you got the 35 dollar a piece price from. I found them for 66 dollars a 3 pack...makes them 22 dollars each. Still not bargain basement, but it seems very reasonable for a head that is not designed to be a throw-away item. Once you've seen them you'll agree they are the best in the world. They maintain their amazing edge after many uses and can easily be touched up when needed. Considering the hundreds to thousands of dollars we spend on equipment, tags, licenses, travel expenses for hunts,etc., it doesn't make much sense to scrimp on the only piece of equipment that does the actual killing. How many shots do any of us get at game each year? When the moment of truth arrives, I am glad to have them in the quiver.
German Kinetics USA has them 3 for 66.99 now....see below: (by the way...I get nothing for being a admirer of these broadheads, wish I did :-)...thought those unfamiliar with them might enjoy the description from the site).
"SilverFlame broadheads incorporate an amount of structural integrity that invariably one searches in vain with most other manufacturers. Only an ingenious construction, based on solid design, combined with the correct materials, constitutes a first-class product.
The facts speak for themselves:
Ferrule Material: AlZnMgCu1,5 F53 Internationally better known under the ASTM designation 7075 T6
This high-strength aluminum alloy contains a tensile strength of 540 N/mm² which is approx. 1.5 times stronger than average construction steel and is used in many cases, where high-strength, but light materials are needed.
Aircraft engineers as well as the top technical designers of world class racing bicycles, appreciate the advantages derived from this material. The ferrules are manufactured in a CNC process. They are in turn ground in a vibratory in order to remove even the finest remaining burr particles. The surface finish will be done with anodizing in the color black silk matt.
As technical characteristic the ferrules show a "round butt", thus a radius to the arrow shaft. Consequently the use of conical washers (U.B.A.R.'s etc.) is eliminated, thus minimizing retraction resistance of the arrow from the practice target.
The thickest portion of the ferrule has a diameter of 8.5mm (> 21/64") and is thus somewhat thicker than most of today's more common carbon hunting shafts, with diameters amounting to somewhat less than 8mm (5/16").
The transition between the main body and the shank, which get screwed together with the thread into the insert, was turned not on 90°, but provided with a small radius by 0.5mm. This radius effectively provides two distinct advantages, an increased bending stability and allows for the self-centering in the insert of the arrow shaft. Blade
Material: X90CrMoV18
Internationally also known under the ASTM designation 440 B. You will recognize that alloy from high-grade hunting knives as well
In actual bowhunting practice you will appreciate the first-class combination of edge-retention and easy resharpening.
The blades are a ready to use right out of the box! That's right, both the assembled broadheads as well as the replacement blades are razor sharp and will take the hair off your arm effortlessly. Handle with the utmost precaution!! SAFETY FIRST AND ALWAYS!! CNC-Laser cuts the blades from a tool steel board. The thickness of 1.80mm (.071") and the grinding of the cutting edges are made in a CNC wet-grinding process to preserve the hardness of the steel. No other manufacturer offers this blade strength!! Prior to this process the blades are bead-blasted and vibratory ground.
The blades are precisely tempered to 55-57 HRC. In order to ensure a homogenous molecular structure of the steel, the blades are then subzero quenched in a special cooling chamber.
The final process in achieving razor sharpness is accomplished by de-burring of the edges on a wheel containing elephant leather and a special polish paste.
The rear blade (trailing edge) is not sharpened at the factory. This feature serves the intended purpose, as well as the rounded off ferrule, an easier arrow retraction. All blades have a cutting diameter of 1-1/8" to meet all relevant hunting laws and regulations worldwide.
The treatment of the blades is made by a specialized company for high-quality industrial knives in Germany's "knifemaker capital city" SOLINGEN. Screws
The two screws used for blade attachment (M2.5 x 5) are made from stainless steel (V2A).
The screw head has a TORX drive (T6), which is considerably more durable than a hexagonal or slot drive.
The screws are not standard parts. They are manufactured exclusively for the SilverFlame Broadheads. The radius of the screw head corresponds to that of the ferrule.
Three broadheads per pack.
Availability: Usually ships the next business day.
sf-150Regular price: 79.99Sale price: 66.99"
Silver Flames are the sharpest and most durable I ever saw. You can cut yourself very easy with 'Flames and not even know it. They are sharp man!
Biggies just joshin ya....he spends that much at Dunkin Donuts for brunch every day.
QuoteOriginally posted by Red Boar:
Honestly, the only folks that don't think Silver Flames are the sharpest are the only ones who haven't handled one.
Yeah......probably so.
Does this Silver Flames have a website?
QuoteOriginally posted by dagwood64:
Does this Silver Flames have a website?
The company name is German Kinetics.
;)
http://www.german-kinetics.com/
I caught Biggie in my quiver twice last weekend trying to swipe one of those 1 7/8" wide "Whitetail Spliters". That head stole his soul! right marty?
Well, I have not had the opportunity to handle a Silver Flame! Does anyone have a spare they would be willing to send out?? LOL :bigsmyl:
Thank you gentlemen.
I think there are maybe 3 choices; Silver Flame, Stinger or Zephyr.
Sharpest and most dependable for a quick/least painful kill is what the animals deserve.
Which of the above mentioned will hold the best edge from the quiver to the string and achieve that goal? Assuming I've done my part of course!
Appreciate the input,
-Charlie
I vote for steelforce, killed lots of deer with them years ago..Never handled a Silver Flame though!! Shawn
bought the Muzzy phantoms and steelforce and Stingers recently.The stingers were the sharpest.They shaved hair the easiest.They are all good heads nonetheless and all shaved hair.
Who knows thier may be variances in sharpness from one head to another from the same company depending on how strict the quality control is.I did buy 3 packs of Stingers and all shaved hair easily.
I second Steelforce.
As with all things in life it's what you did with it at the right time and moment.
The best things in life are not always insight as we tend for things at grasp. :bigsmyl:
I've read up on Silver Flames as they seem to be no doubt a superior made product. What German product isn't? Honestly was there ever a better made car for price then the VW Beetle?
Testing by someone here in th past of shooting them at (not into) block walls I beleive and not bending the head. So craftsmenship and quality are there.
But with Trad equipment I feel there a over kill and simply not worth the money.
With a wheely bow at 275fps you would probably pass thru both hind quarters including the bones of an elf and stick into a tree 10yards beyond, walk over pull it out and put back in ya quiver for the next one, but at 160 to 180 fps I don't think so.
There's a point where enough is enough and since only lQQking now it's better IMO to try other blades be it the stinger, or Zephr as you mentioned and see how they work keeping in mind the you could always try others.
Let us know what you choose and pictures of results as this is an exciting time for you for sure. :thumbsup:
Definitely Silver Flames - hands down. As mentioned they aren't cheap, but super scary sharp just the same.
I would put Steelforce a close 2nd, but I have found them not very durable.
Burnsie
I'm with Biggie on this one.
I've never handled a Silver Flame, never will. I'm not trying to bash them, it's just that my belief is that it is absolutely crazy to have to pay that much money for a three pack of broadheads, when you can make other great broadheads deadly sharp at a considerabley lower price for twice as many broadheads.
You may not believe this from my post, but I am definitely not a cheapskate when it comes to my hunting equipment. However, all I need is something that is deadly sharp, for one shot. If I miss, I can touch it up and get it deadly sharp, AGAIN, with no problem.
In answer to the original question, my choice is the Stinger or the Razorcap.
Another vote for Steel force. Great product, great value and an even greater selection. :thumbsup: