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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: NorthShoreLB on March 11, 2008, 02:20:00 AM
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I was just flipping thru my latest 3RIVERS catalog, and realised they don't carry RIBTEKs anylonger, one of my favorite heads, but moreover the only 190gr head now is the Grizzly.
I was wandering if with all the new info on FOC, companys would start to develope real heavy BHs, in the 250 to 300gr, I surely would be one of the first costumers :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Check out the Tusker, they just put out a new 200 and there are sponsors on TG that sell them. I just ordered some 190s and some 145 to put on my 100 gr brass insrerts. Can't give you a recommendation yet, but will post when I can.
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Ho yeah, I can make real heavy ones with inserts, but I'm talking about heads for wooden arrows :bigsmyl:
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That is thier specialty. Get'R'Done is selling them and they are all glue on heads. i special ordered mine to fit some 5575s' that need used up.
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I want a 270-300gr head :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
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Realised I made a typo mistake on my original post, and corrected it,..sorry
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look at bob morrison web under new products,prototype broadhead.302 or 400 with and the price is going to shock you.
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ACE also has a 200 gr. glue on. Don't know of any heavier. I believe the head longbowben is talking about is 3 blade screw on. Would have to use a screw on adapter with it(for wood shafts). If a fella went that route, shoot, those are another 75 gr. aren't they? There's some FOC!
Steve
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Try using stone points. You can make them any weight you want. I have a few for elk hunting that are 190-200gr. The one in the middle is 200.
Bryan
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Emanuele,
Patience Grasshopper. What you seek shall soon appear. :bigsmyl:
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
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Another vote for going to the Morrison website, 300 grain heads!
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I was just taking a glance at the Foxfire Traditional Archery website and they carry the 190 grain Ribtek's.
I want to move to a 190 grain head. I will be shooting 11/32" wood shafts what do you guys do for field points? The heaviest they make for 11/32" is 160 grain.
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Granpa 3oogr glue on heads ? I'll check hem out.
Bryan, no stone here :bigsmyl:
Yeah, Dr. I would figure someone will start doing something :bigsmyl:
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Emanuele,
I have consulted the oracles, sought out the witch doctors, cast the bones, read the tea leaves and gazed into the crystal ball. I’ve regularly consumed the magic elixir of spiritual guidance (that’s Tom 101, who has diligently pondered all matter of real consequence for at least 8 years, while sequestered inside finely crafted oaken barrels, lovingly charred in order to purify all thoughts that enter therein.) . All the signs say it is true. So shall it be. :goldtooth:
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
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we are plenty waiting for a 300-400gr new "ashby" broadhead...
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I believe Rib Teks are still available from a shop in Australia called Archery Supplies.
They have a web site. It is not hard to order online. :)
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Luckely I have several dozens still in the bags,
but I'm waiting impatiently for real heavy stuff to come out :bigsmyl:
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I've had the opportunity to see the ones on Morrisons site. They are screw in's, not glue on's. The gentleman who makes them is out of Canada and they are expected to be out this summer. They are 300 grains and are solid. I can't wait to try one. Bob says they blow right through deer. :bigsmyl:
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I will be carrying the Xtreme 300 when it comes out...yes it is a screw on stainless steel 3 blade head with a slight tanto tip...Asgier, the fellow out of Canada that is going to be producing them is doing some final preparations before they go to market. He was at the K'zoo show at Bob Morrison's booth and selling some of the prototypes...they are very easy to sharpen to a razor edge and fly very well on my arrows. I have 3 of the prototypes that "missed" the weight and they are 350gr each...man do they shake a block target when they hit. I am shooting a 45/60 carbon with a 100gr brass plus the 350gr b'head..total arrow weight is just over 700gr..they fly just fine.
The heaviest glue on that I have found is the Ace 200gr Super Express...I carry them as well and they are an awesome head!! With a 125gr steel b'head adapter you get weight the tip up 325gr...
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Yeah I konw that, I get my RIBTEKs 190 on a 125gr steel adapter for a 315gr head, and than you can get all kinds of weight up front with the PDP sistem, on my alluminum I got a total of 435gr up front like that, with an arrow weight 850gr, .......but I'm talking about manifacturing a glue on BH in the 250-300gr range.
staying on topic would be nice :bigsmyl:
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Peschek, 190gr field points are sold by 3RIVERS, what you can't find in 190gr are blunts,..but that's an easy fix with the TARANTULA :bigsmyl:
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Get SCA arrowheads. You know, the geeks that dress up in armor and play fight, they make REALLY heavy broadheads for that. Of course they are not sharp at all, but a half hour with a grinder and they are perfect. I have one on my new arrows, and its around 345 grains at the tip. I think about 600-700 or somewhere overall. The thing is, Im shooting a 45# bow, and that arrows is flying better than any other I have at hunting distances. And its by far the hardest to get out of the target, it blows through almost everything, boxes, hay, tree bark....
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Michael, we have 190 grain 11/32" field points in stock. As you might imagine a popular item with our Grizzly 190 shooters.
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Originally posted by Michael Peschek:
I was just taking a glance at the Foxfire Traditional Archery website and they carry the 190 grain Ribtek's.
I want to move to a 190 grain head. I will be shooting 11/32" wood shafts what do you guys do for field points? The heaviest they make for 11/32" is 160 grain.
I've got 11/32 190gr field tips. Go to tradbits.com.au
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I asked a similar question recently, and a couple Trad-Gangers recommended 'woodyweights' which was the perfect solution for me. They are tapered steel adapters that you glue onto wood arrows, and then you glue any broadhead you like onto that. They come in 25 grain increments, from 75 grains to 200 grains. I ordered the 200 grain ones to try with 160 grain STOS broadheads. My arrows fly great!
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There ya go! I'm shooting 160 Stos with 75 grain Woody Weights, but could go higher. How about that 200 grain Ace with a BIG Woody weight? Lots up front. They fit the arrow taper really well and the broadhead taper. Mine spun true after I put them on. Good luck.
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I have been going through the same problem getting heavy weight heads for my heavy wood shafts. The woody weights work in getting good arrow flight but then the thin blade on the broadhead becomes the weak part. I shoot each broadhead arrow several times to make sure they are flying right and have noticed that after 8 t0 10 shots some of the heads no longer spin true. On examination they all have very slight bend at the end of the ferrel. This happened to both the tusker 175 and the 175 ace with 75 gr woody weights for an arrow in the 800-850+ range. My guess is that the heavy spinning shaft and the twisting on impact is more than the .036 to .040 blades can take repeatedly. A stronger head with a .070 to .090 blade thickness might be a better way to go and get the overall weight up.
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Check with Todd. I don't think the new, heavy STOS will be out before deer season is over, but it might be ahead of the projected schedule. I concur, we NEED some really heavy glue-on STRONGLY BUILT broadheads; and not just for the woody shooters. I did a tiny bit of testing this year with some Ultra Extreme FOC arrows (those above 30% FOC) from a little 40# recurve, and was REALLY impressed with the results. Plan to do a lot more with them next year - assuming I'm able to.
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow
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You'll HAVE to be able to Doc...otherwise I'll havta do the testing for ya hehehe...
All is still chaos with this moving house but...while the shed isn't ready for workshops, the archery gear has it's own cubby-house and the bows are 'resting' on my spare bed till I get a new rack up for them.
This girl knows what's important
:bigsmyl:
Mum was having a winge about my backyard being too big...clamed up and storked off when I said "but it'll give me a fantastic shooting lane when I'm set up" hehehe
We'll just put you up under the mango tree when you come back down under and you'll be all set to go.
Keep exercising and get yourself better boy
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I look forward to that test Dr. Ashby.
I use to search threw my pile of wood shafts for the heaviest I could find but my new way of thinking is to find the lightest I can which isn't going to be easy since now I have to move up in spine and make up the weight with broadhead instead of arrow mass to attain the 10-12 gpp I like.
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Under the mango tree? :scared: :scared: Now, you know that I ate so many mangoes while living in Africa that I can't look at one without having nightmares of "the attack of the monster mangoes". :scared: :scared:
Are the tools sorted and out yet, where you can build that new bow rack? A range in the yard. Now, THAT will be a useful addition! Looks like you will have LOTS of time to get ALL the work done well before I'll be repaired!
Ed
TGMM Family of the Bow