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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: John Malone on January 28, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
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Hello guys. So i got this stave worked down a little. Its 65 inches long 3/4 thick at the limbs 1 1/4 thick in the handle area 1 3/4 wide the entire length. I want to make an eastern woodland style bow. The bow on page 53 of the TBB volume 2 is my model. That one is 1 1/8 at the handle 1 1/16 mid limb 5/8 at the tips. Looks like some slight recurve in the tips. At this point think i work on the profile some. Take it down to 1 1/4-3/8 and 3/4 tips that would leave me wiggle room later to adjust things. It has some slight natural deflex i think i should leave that for now, fix when i put the reflex in. What do ya think so far. Going in the right direction?
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Looking nice, John.
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Just read a post by Eric Krewson. So i will be using Eric's goof proof bow building method. Sorta what ive been doing but i like the way he explained it.
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Well fellows, this one is coming along very slowly. Its at what I call zero brace or string is tight enough that the tips start moving when you start pulling. These two pics show brace and #55 @13. I figure its #85 @28, that about right?
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Looks nice, Johnny.
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Thanks Roy, I'm getting there.
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:thumbsup:
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Looks good so far. With that little and smooth of deflex, I’d probably leave it myself for an easy to brace shape that won’t gigve up much speed (compared to same with reflex) as log as the set stays low. But a it’s still very easy to induce a little reflex when heat treating too.
I was thinking English warbow when I opened the thread. But a good eastern woodland is just as good and fun to shoot.
Kyle
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Looking good John wish I had the shop room you do :archer2:
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Mo-coon, that deflex is very slight its not perfectly even but close. I'm kinda going by the pic in TBB vol 2 pg. 53. It has a tad bit o reflex that I think would have been intentional, it also has some delex could have been string follow who knows. It will not be an exact replica I'm just using it as a rough pattern, more like inspiration. If anything this one has been really fun so far.
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Well fellows I got it worked down to #55 @19 inches. A little further and ill heat treat it and flip the tips as is in the picture I'm working from.
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Yer gonna have a 75 pound plus bow dude.
Looks nice though.
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Naw I'm just going slow working it down. Was thinking #55 might tiller to that and then if heat treat adds #5 or so call it good. I got it down to #55 at 22 now.
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Looking good! Nothing wrong with going slow.
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You are tillering correctly. Always pull to full weight if there are no problems. Drawlength progressing as you remove wood.
The mid to outer limbs need to bend more.
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Ok guys and gals, got it down to #55@25, been staring at the pic on page 96 Of TBB vol4. The bow is turned in the tree in the 2nd pic. Lighting sucks.
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looks great, only advice i would give- is refrain from using a tillering stick- leaving an all wooden bow- under tension while one snaps pics etc will put excessive strain on the bow- at the least causing unnecessary set- and in the worst case causing the bow to fail.
i have seen all hickory bows explode quite spectacularly.
build a tillering tree with rope and pulley- and its easy to get pics by oneself
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Thanks fujimo. I don't like doing that but I did it anyway. Think ill drill a hole in a metal wall stud to anchor that down, I have pulleys and such.
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Well guys, draw is 26 inches brace is just shy of 5 inches. I turned the bow arounf in the two pics. Heat treated the belly put a lil d/r in it not much, Feels pretty good. Put a few arrows through it no hand shock seems pretty smooth.
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tiller looks great- just starting to bend in the hnadle
very nice!
is that some natural backset in the stave?
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Backset? Not sure what back set is. It had some natural deflex in it. I flipped the tips some.
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John, backset is reflex.
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Gotcha Pat, then no it had no natural backset. I did that with a hot rock (heat gun)
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ok cool!
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Well Guys I think I may be hooked. I really like this Eastern Woodland style bow. 250 arrows and it pulled #58.8 on the scale. Target was #55 so that makes two in a row that came in plus or minus 3 pounds so that's a success by itself there. It does flex in the handle ever so slightly at full draw which freaks me out as this is my first bendy. No real hand shock maybe a slight thump I guess you could call it otherwise nice and stable good balance on the draw and release. Needs more tuning as far as brace height and arrows but seems to be a good shooter, definitely fun. She's only half dressed so no finish pics yet.
Now I've got to go find me a stave before I get this one finished so I don't go into withdrawals.
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Very nice, John..
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Man that bendy came out nice! Great job John.
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Well Guys thanks for the help. I do believe I have found my favorite style bow. Cant remember the last thing I made that gave as much satisfaction and enjoyment. She is 63 inches n2n, 1 1/4 wide through the handle to mid limb then tapers to 3/4 tips. #58.3 @28 bend in handle, and after 300 plus arrows she is a very good shooter. I didn't want to copy a another design or color scheme so I made one up, it could pass for several different cultures I believe. I always thought coral snakes were beautiful so there ya go. I didn't break out the masking tape and hvlp, just done it by hand so there are brush strokes and such in there. More realistic for a hunter who imbued his own bow with some magic. Raw hide handle I dyed and it came out pink it has since calmed down some but I'm man enough to deal with it.
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Nice, Johnny...
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Very nice bows.
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Very nice bend...and it does take a real man to shoot a pink handled bow. :)
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with that nice pink handle- better send it to ol'Roy!!
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LOl I thought about that Fujimo. I will end up putting some black or something on that handle I'm sure.
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Hey fujimo-boy...
I'll put a nice pink wrap on your bow.. :)
Just wait and see....
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:bigsmyl: