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Title: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 21, 2018, 03:15:00 PM
Everyone should have received their victim's info from me now via PM. Let me know if it didn't come through.

My hat is off to Kelly for all his work over the years. I got all cross-eyed just trying to keep bowyers and victims and their info straight for 19 participants. I have no idea how he kept it all together back in the days when there were over 80 people!

Let's keep the progress updates happening on this thread. If I don't see something from you at least every 3-4 weeks, I'll be following up via email and phone. Now let the shavings and glass orders fly!

-Dave
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 21, 2018, 03:23:00 PM
I'm done, can I ship?

Just kiddin!

I have just begun to stalk my prey....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 21, 2018, 04:02:00 PM
Yes, the stalking begins. Will be starting on the form this week.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on January 21, 2018, 05:14:00 PM
Since were now officially started.
Which of these two styles should I go with: Osage English longbow or a black locust recurve?

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 21, 2018, 07:21:00 PM
let the games begin   :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 21, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
I have to go to arkansas for a week so i wont be able to dive into mine till the weekend. I'm the same boat Monterey. I have a lot of wood but don't know what to build I want to build what my victim would like but I have no clue what that is. I'll be posting pics and hoping people share their thoughts.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on January 21, 2018, 10:09:00 PM
Tradbowyer,
What part of Arkansas are you coming to?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 21, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
Hot springs. I'm there one week a month
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 22, 2018, 05:59:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mo_coon-catcher:
Since were now officially started.
Which of these two styles should I go with: Osage English longbow or a black locust recurve?

Kyle
Putting aside the fact that I am not a recurve guy, I have never found anything more beautiful (archery related   ;)  )  than the perfect arc of an English Long/Warbow
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on January 22, 2018, 06:58:00 AM
Ok, just curious I live in Camden. About an hour from Hot Springs.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on January 22, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
I couldn't sleep last night thinking about what design I'm going to pick for my victim...That's what it's all about.  
Kyle, I would like to see both of those bows you mentioned, but my vote would be the recurve.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 22, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
So, I have a question. If my victim seems to build only a certain type of bow, should I build something along the lines of what he builds, or should I build him something completely different?

I have some ideas either way.  This is gonna be epic!   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 22, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
Well, one of the concepts of the swap is to be inspired to do your best work ever.  To me that can be interpreted to include innovation.  I'm going to build within the general parameters of my usual work but with a twist that I've wanted to explore for a while.

It could easily end up needing two builds to get it right.

Anyway, that's my take on it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 22, 2018, 05:34:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by C. Johnson:
[QB] So, I have a question. If my victim seems to build only a certain type of bow, should I build something along the lines of what he builds, or should I build him something completely different?
My take is that you start by building what you are best at, and what is a best example of your work. If that still leaves a couple of options, I would steer away from what your victim would build for themselves, as they probably build it exactly the way they want it and it will be hard for yours to ever truly stack up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 22, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
So confession: I originally told my wife when I took this on that I wouldn't be making a bow myself. But I just couldn't help myself. I was talking to someone on the phone on the other side of the house when I mentioned needing to figure out what to build for the swap and she heard me. Ruh-roh. I was hoping to time coming clean a little more favorably...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 22, 2018, 06:49:00 PM
I’m not sure where I’m going with my victimizing.

First plan is to make some perfectly edge grain maple action wood for cores . See what that does for performance .

Here’s a question or two that might help everyone ?

Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs?

Darker/ lighter riser?

Colored glass or clear?

Boo or hickory back?

Selfbow?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 22, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Now to be easy- copy, paste and answer!

Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs?  lighter

Darker/ lighter riser? darker

Colored glass or clear? clear

Boo or hickory back? boo

Selfbow? yup

disclaimer, I don't need these things, but thought it would give my assailant ideas....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on January 22, 2018, 07:21:00 PM
Kenny - you're the artist, just make me happy    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 22, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
...yes...   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 22, 2018, 07:39:00 PM
I was tryin to sucker my victim into giving clues. I can be artsy with different stuff, lol . Learned from Roy!

If everybody copies and pastes and answers the questions, victimizing will be easyierer.   :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on January 22, 2018, 07:46:00 PM
OK, I'll help ya out. (This might help me out too)


Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs? lighter

Darker/ lighter riser? darker

Colored glass or clear? Clear if it's over lighter limbs so any flaws in the the glass are less apparent.  But I have grown very fond of colored glass.

Boo or hickory back? boo

Selfbow? yup
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on January 22, 2018, 07:54:00 PM
I like clear glass and really have no preference on woods, I like them all. I'm sure I'd like anything Kenny made.

I kinda like the shortest bow that is comfortable at my draw length. Anyone else feel the same or do some of you like longer bows?


Darker/ lighter riser?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 22, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
Quote
it will be hard for yours to ever truly stack up.
I can build bows that "stack up" all day long!   :biglaugh:

Think I posted this before but here it is again in the progress thread.  This is the form design for the swap bow.  Pretty dang simple back set Hill style.  I'm wanting this to be as close to classic Hill as possible so I'm open to suggestions all around.

  (https://i.imgur.com/ivHBjOi.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 22, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
Yeah, its hard to give preferences. I've built a lot of bows and as far as glass goes, I would say I'm always drawn to flat cut wood grain. that being said, one of my favorite all time combos is gray riser and black glass. I built a recurve for my brother in law high school graduation. Gray and black glass backed with snake skin. If would have been a lefty, I might have kept it   :)   Still working on trying to get a decent BBO bow and I love selfbows. I've built mainly hickory bows but I'm cracking into the world of locust. Had one I thought passed but it cracked at a slight knot in the limb. that was a bummer. all that being said, its also hard to beat a good ol hill longbow. what can I say? I like them all.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 22, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
As for me, I really like contrast. I like to combine different woods that are very different in color or grain but compliment each other.

Like black palm paired with maple. The palm is dark with a very unique and striking grain. Maple is very uniform in grain and color and they work well together.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on January 23, 2018, 02:12:00 AM
I can’t get my phone to copy very well, so I’ll type it up briefly.

Preferences:
Light limbs
Dark riser
Clear glass (I love seeing the cores character)
Boo (because looks, but no real pefeeremce)
Love selfbows

I hope that works without fully retyping the questions.
Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on January 23, 2018, 07:06:00 AM
Here’s a question or two that might help everyone ?

Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs? Lighter

Darker/ lighter riser? Darker

Colored glass or clear? Clear

Boo or hickory? boo
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on January 23, 2018, 09:21:00 AM
Colors I like on a bow: Yellows and Browns
I don't have a preference between dark and light colors.
I like the natural color of wood in all of it's forms.
 
If I get glass I would rather clear.
selfbow: sure
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Scifres on January 23, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs? Darker

Darker/ lighter riser? Darker

Colored glass or clear? No Preference

Boo or hickory back? No Preference
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 23, 2018, 04:25:00 PM
Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs? Darker is my preference, but I still like light!

Darker/ lighter riser? I am a big fan of contrasting grain, light or dark.  Can be applied to limbs as well.

Colored glass or clear? Clear is awesome so the core or veneer can shine through, but I have seen some good looking black glass/zebra riser combos.

Boo or hickory back? Boo.

Selfbow? Selfbow, tri-lam, glass bow... all the bows!

Also I left out a critical piece of info on my signup post, my draw length is 30".  I'm pretty stoked about this trade, and the decisions are keeping me up as well!  A bit nervous as well, as this will be my 6th bow.  Hope I can measure up!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 23, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
This should help the assailants out! And I may pay no attention to it either!!   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on January 23, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
I am not gonna be particular...  Just make me the best bow that you know how make...

   I got a confession to make...  When Canopy messaged me for info... I said, "This may sound selfish but could you you hook me up with an experienced Bowyer"...  Reason being I have not shot a lot of other bows and wanna see whats out there and take notes and compare my bow to theirs... I could care less about gaining a bow, I got about fifteen laying around... I am in it to learn and have some fun with this... AS far as giving out a bow I am gonna try hard and make the best damn bow I can make for the Receiver...  

Just make my bow Right handed, between 39 and 43lbs and I shoot three under...  A little over or under the weight will be fine if you miss your mark... Don't stress it...  But if it is under, it better be fast...  I don't want any arrows bouncing off the hay bales...    :)   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 23, 2018, 08:11:00 PM
Ya like lighter colors or darker ones limbs? Darker

Darker/ lighter riser? darker or mix

Colored glass or clear? clear

Boo or hickory back? boo

Selfbow? Sure
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 23, 2018, 08:17:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shredd:
I got a confession to make...  When Canopy messaged me for info... I said, "This may sound selfish but could you you hook me up with an experienced Bowyer"...  
I passed your message to the dice, but they just laughed at me. We'll see how it shakes out. Post your progress often here and you'll learn a lot. There's a few guys that shoot lightweight pink bows who love to tell you what you're doing right and especially what you're doing wrong...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on January 23, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
LOL...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 23, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
Working out a plan...to whomever got me I'm great with anything love character and fancy wood grain self bow long bow recurve it don't matter
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 23, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 24, 2018, 08:07:00 AM
Sorry for the crappy pic, but I think I've picked some amazing wood for my victim...

Bocote and Zebra.  Maple core.

 https://imgur.com/a/IQyX6
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 24, 2018, 10:57:00 AM
Looking for Myrtle Wood for the swap bow riser.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 24, 2018, 11:05:00 AM
not really sure what your asking. I've built some bows with myrtle and have some nice wood left. I treat it like curly maple since what I have looks a lot like curly maple but a little darker and some streaking.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 24, 2018, 02:52:00 PM
I'm looking for supplier.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 24, 2018, 03:54:00 PM
Fooled with some lams for the poor victim today..... which way to go dirty ash or cherry ???? hmmmmmm  The cherry would look good with a bubinga riser.

  (http://i.imgur.com/pqcUOHR.jpg)


Think I have a plan, the dirty ash is gonna be it...... It will be an all American bow, I made some sorta maple awood this morn for cores, but with only 3 glue lines in it by selecting some very flat grain maple and cutting to 1/2" and gluing together to make a 2" blank . I think it will be better than aboo....

And some more dirty ash for the riser ...

With a curly maple I beam

  (http://i.imgur.com/PXYAPlQ.jpg)

If this is too much info, let me know and I'll do something with it!   :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 24, 2018, 04:34:00 PM
that dirty ash looks like flat grain zebra
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 24, 2018, 05:32:00 PM
It all looks good.  

Tradbowyer, if you have some Myrtle that will work that you might sell we could maybe make a deal.  I get most of my stuff from Kenny and if he had any I think he would have spoken up.

PM me.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 24, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
The start of the riser. Maple with two walnut accent strips. My current "plan" is for a 3 pc takedown. It won't be fancy but I figured I should focus on function over form at my level.

We'll see.

   (http://i.imgur.com/gc2hru6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/gc2hru6)

   (http://i.imgur.com/BogOd3s.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/BogOd3s)

   (http://i.imgur.com/N9n1yGR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/N9n1yGR)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on January 24, 2018, 07:33:00 PM
Good Plan...  I most often opt for function over form...

  I just ordered some glass today from Kenny for the victimizer...

  So things are looking good...  Maybe glue up the riser this weekend...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 24, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Progress already, I like it! You're all ahead of me. I don't see myself getting anywhere until this work travel finally lets up a little in a week or two.

Every year I try to do something different for the swap, something I haven't done before. This time I think I'd like to build a new form and try a D/R hybrid I've been contemplating for some time.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 24, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Every year I try to do something different for the swap, something I haven't done before.

What's that, make a good bow?   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: goobersan on January 24, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
ooouuucchh    :deadhorse:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 24, 2018, 09:22:00 PM
That's alright goob, it don't hurt when Roy bites.

He's right I do keep trying to build a good one. But maybe because my standards are higher than Roybert's.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure Roy has ever shot a bow I made. But the one I shot that he made showered me with splinters and almost put my eye out. Nothing he can say via keyboard can hurt more than that did.

  :wavey:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jess stuart on January 24, 2018, 11:35:00 PM
Montrey  I get Myrtle from Gary Schuler from Oregon.  PM and I will give you his email.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 25, 2018, 12:06:00 AM
Thanks, Jess, Kenny already pointed me that way.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: KellyG on January 25, 2018, 05:42:00 AM
Mad some nice ideals being passed around. I cant wait to see some finished bows.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 25, 2018, 05:48:00 AM
LOL it was a kids bow and ya over drew it. Ben told me.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 25, 2018, 03:01:00 PM
Ok , my maple awood plan didn’t work out. Just tested it against regular maple and it wasn’t as stiff. So ground new lams and tested the tapers against each other, maple still won.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 25, 2018, 03:06:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Ok , my maple awood plan didn’t work out. Just tested it against regular maple and it wasn’t as stiff. So ground new lams and tested the tapers against each other, maple still won.
That's my experience too.  I'm not saying other woods won't work for core lams, but I haven't found anything better.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 25, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Placed an order for the needed supplies today.  Now, just have to avoid the missus for a few days... haha!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on January 25, 2018, 04:48:00 PM
Just saw Kenny's post


Here’s a question or two that might help everyone ?
 
I like the dark limbs to lighter riser combo...or light limbs dark riser!


Clear is always beautiful, but hunting bows are great simple.

I need to post pictures, I am thinking of modeling my hybrid after a 50-60's recurve I bought at a antique store. Classic green! Do people like green glass. Personally I think the classic green is pretty awesome!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 25, 2018, 04:53:00 PM
I should have mentioned split or 3 under tillering too, I shoot split. Normally tiller even to a little positive on my own bows.

 How about you all?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 25, 2018, 06:47:00 PM
home from beautiful Arkansas tomorrow can't wait to get started on mine. I'll be posting pics asking for input as well.

I shoot 3 under. I have found that tillering even to 1/4" positive is fine for glass bows regardless of shooting style. if it wouldn't be then string walkers would be up a creek.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 25, 2018, 07:10:00 PM
So while I was on my way home tonight I stopped off at a wood worker store to browse. I came across this wood that I have never heard of but I liked the look of it. I am going to make some veneers/parallels if it's a usable wood.

Is there restrictions on what can be used for veneer?

This, according to the sticker, is called Bali.

  (http://i.imgur.com/zubE1zm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zubE1zm)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 25, 2018, 07:11:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TradBowyer:
home from beautiful Arkansas tomorrow can't wait to get started on mine. I'll be posting pics asking for input as well.

I shoot 3 under. I have found that tillering even to 1/4" positive is fine for glass bows regardless of shooting style. if it wouldn't be then string walkers would be up a creek.
I agree!! Just askin for preference ! LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 25, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
I found balau in the Wood Database but not bali

 http://www.wood-database.com/balau/
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on January 25, 2018, 10:38:00 PM
I had to dig this out of a couple of feet of snow, I think it will find a place on the bow I build. I found it a few years and have been looking for a reason to cut into it.   (https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMbAJIgwBdPdDvBJ2o5CopiBBJZOdgRfK6leyrn)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on January 25, 2018, 10:47:00 PM
The suspense, what is it? Cant get pic to work..its an elk shed.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 26, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
So while I was on my way home tonight I stopped off at a wood worker store to browse. I came across this wood that I have never heard of but I liked the look of it. I am going to make some veneers/parallels if it's a usable wood.

Is there restrictions on what can be used for veneer?

This, according to the sticker, is called Bali.

   (http://i.imgur.com/zubE1zm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zubE1zm)  
It seems my old eyes read incorrectly. It's Beli... Below is the description from WoodCraft.

Beli (Julbernardia pellegriniana) is native to Cameroon and Gabon in Africa. This is a very affordable substitute for Zebrawood. The heartwood is light brown with alternating darker stripes throughout. This exotic is not commonly exported in lumber form, but as veneer.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 26, 2018, 08:57:00 AM
Does look like zebra.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on January 26, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
Quick question before I get started this next week. Draw style, split finger or 3 under? What’s your preference?

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 26, 2018, 05:13:00 PM
ok so here we go. here are some examples I was thinking of. risers on the right wood for lams on the left. risers woods: zebra, bubinga, east induan rosewood, bocote, charcoal dymondwood
lams: red elm, dangerous, walnut, research

of course black glass goes with everything. so give me your opinion on some combos here    (https://imgur.com/P0uzCxx.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 26, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
 
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
So while I was on my way home tonight I stopped off at a wood worker store to browse. I came across this wood that I have never heard of but I liked the look of it. I am going to make some veneers/parallels if it's a usable wood.

Is there restrictions on what can be used for veneer?


This, according to the sticker, is called Bali.

    (http://i.imgur.com/zubE1zm.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zubE1zm)  
It seems my old eyes read incorrectly. It's Beli... Below is the description from WoodCraft.

Beli (Julbernardia pellegriniana) is native to Cameroon and Gabon in Africa. This is a very affordable substitute for Zebrawood. The heartwood is light brown with alternating darker stripes throughout. This exotic is not commonly exported in lumber form, but as veneer. [/b]
It's Beli.looks just like zebra, only not as porous.  I've used a lot of it. Just be careful as it has a tendency to wrap.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 26, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
some cool looking stuff guys !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on January 26, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
It’s weird watching all this and knowing the names this time around. Kinda surreal.

There’s going to be some happy victims me thinks.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on January 27, 2018, 05:00:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mo_coon-catcher:
Quick question before I get started this next week. Draw style, split finger or 3 under? What’s your preference?

Kyle
Split
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 27, 2018, 06:24:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Mo_coon-catcher:
Quick question before I get started this next week. Draw style, split finger or 3 under? What’s your preference?

Kyle
Hi, I am Lonnie and I am a recovering split finger shooter...... Lately I have been shooting 3 under and I think I like it. Chances are good that I will keep it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 27, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
split   :archer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on January 27, 2018, 06:24:00 PM
Split shooter too
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 27, 2018, 07:07:00 PM
ok so here's a set of limbs I did today for a personal bow. flat grain zebra. I'm thinking of doing this with like a shedua or bocote riser OR going the black glass route with a bocote cocobolo or shedua riser....what do you think?

  (https://imgur.com/WifY3wy.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 27, 2018, 07:10:00 PM
I'm a split shooter , and love wood grain!! LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on January 27, 2018, 07:32:00 PM
Wow... That's Purty...  Kinda looks Tigerish...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on January 27, 2018, 10:12:00 PM
I shoot three under. Gotta love Zebra wood, goes good with about anything.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 28, 2018, 09:47:00 AM
nice!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
That's beautiful Tradbowyer!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 03:19:00 PM
https://imgur.com/a/ieNzg

Bocote and Beli.  Hard maple for the core wood.  Plus, an accent strip made from Beli, Black Palm, and maple.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 03:22:00 PM
https://imgur.com/a/ieNzg

Ok, forgive me.  I'm not much good with making computers cooperate, but this should detail my progress thusfar.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 03:25:00 PM
Ok, looks like it worked.

Anyway, I went with spliced veneers of Bocote and Beli wood with a maple accent strip in the joint.  This same theme is carried out in the riser as well.

She's in the oven cooking as we speak.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 28, 2018, 05:38:00 PM
Here is all I got, wanted to put an arch in riser like Craig did, but don't think it will work with the way I'm doing the riser on this one. So 2 straight accents....

Actually riser has 6 pcs...

 (http://i.imgur.com/QaI8QnT.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 28, 2018, 05:41:00 PM
Oh MAN, the top piece of riser slid a 1/16" !!

I'm gonna go pry it apart and fix it.  :saywhat:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 28, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
1/16"... let's see that is 1" divided in 16 parts.... carry the one.... double it..... take away.... awe screw it.... Leave it be Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 28, 2018, 06:52:00 PM
I didn't mess with it, was just funnin ya!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: fujimo on January 28, 2018, 08:37:00 PM
:biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 10:14:00 PM
Crap.....

I feel sick....

Cannot believe I just did that...

I flipped a god dang veneer.  So, now, I have my pencil marks where I wrote, "This side down" clearly visible under the clear glass.  Ugh....

I swear, the only way I could be any dumber is if I were bigger.

   :banghead:      :banghead:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 28, 2018, 10:15:00 PM
Well, I'm not gonna finish and ship this friggin' atrocity.

Back to square one.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 29, 2018, 12:41:00 PM
Just ordered more glass from Binghams....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: fujimo on January 29, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
aaaggghh man- sorry chap!!
but is that flipped veneer on the bottom limb?
would be great for someone like me- to know which way to hold the bow!!   :D  
sorry man!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on January 29, 2018, 01:15:00 PM
Ohhh  Chitttt..!!!  Get inventive...  Put a logo or something there...  Maybe some rhinestones or spell out the victims name with glitter...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 29, 2018, 01:54:00 PM
Skin it
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 29, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
At least it didn't say "packing strip"   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on January 29, 2018, 03:12:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
At least it didn't say "packing strip"    :biglaugh:  
That reminds me........I been meaning to tell kenny to stop using sharpie on my “future veneers”   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 29, 2018, 04:22:00 PM
Oh, it will make a nice looking and otherwise perfectly shootable bow.  Just not going to send something like that to my bow swap "victim".

That's what I get for allowing myself to get distracted when I'm doing a glue up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 29, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
I would take it ...its character witch = cool
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 29, 2018, 07:43:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/8TNYLeA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/8TNYLeA)

Here's my pencil marks.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on January 29, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/XFLA7m2.jpg) (https://imgur.com/XFLA7m2)

Here's the other aesthetic consequence of flipping that lam.  The spliced joints are supposed to orient in opposite directions belly to back on the bow.  Now they don't.

Not the best pic, but you see what I mean.

Actually, it's probably a good thing this happened. The splice I made is pretty wide.  Takes up a lot of real estate on the limb.  I may not have been able to narrow the limbs enough without cutting into it.

I've decided to finish the bow (eventually) and pass it along to someone who could use it in spite of it's cosmetic flaws.

I hate making mistakes and wasting materials, but sometimes, it can be an investment in my own education.

At least, that's what I tell myself....     ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on January 29, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
My figurin's are that if you don't learn something new everyday, you are doing it wrong.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: rmorris on January 29, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Sorry to see that mistake! But that was looking like an awesome bow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 29, 2018, 09:01:00 PM
Dang, I hate that, sweet bow anyway! It wouldn't worry me, unique that way!

I write on mine too, except I write " belly out" or "back out "  on the tip end at edge where it grinds off for taper.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 29, 2018, 09:02:00 PM
Oh, Brad, I'll start writing at the least attractive end for ya!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 29, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
Heck some camo paint would fix that right up...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on January 29, 2018, 09:11:00 PM
Yup, camo paint fixes anything!

I had part of a newspaper article under clear once.  I gave it away but it ended up coming apart on the ramp probably because I stained the lams with an oil based stain!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on January 29, 2018, 09:32:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Oh, Brad, I'll start writing at the least attractive end for ya!
Just kiddin on the veneers. But have salvaged some overlay and tip wedge material.    :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 29, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Kenny always writes something smart on my materials..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on January 29, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Kenny always writes something smart on my materials..    :)  
Does he write on your glass?
“CAUTION User may become itchy!”
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 30, 2018, 04:47:00 AM
I can't say what he writes, it always looks like an intoxicated chicken scribbled on it...   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 30, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
:biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on January 31, 2018, 02:32:00 AM
I got a start tonight. I picked out a narrow long stave of Osage with very tight rings. It’s also a dark orange instead of a bright yellow, so I’m hoping it’ll be a bit more dense and allow me to hit the weight I’m after. After I cleaned up the edges and clipped the ends to see what I have to work with. The stave ended up 72” long, and 7/8” wide. It only has 2 rings of sapwood that are clean. So I’m going to leave a sapwood back. I’m hoping to get it to pull into the mid 50# range. But will be content if I can convince it to pull 45#. I’m confident I can hit into the 50# range since o had a similar stave I got a 90# at 30” draw from that is only 1.125” wide.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on January 31, 2018, 03:00:00 PM
Well,
I finally decided on what I'm doing. When I first started into traditional shooting, I knew nothing about it nor did I know anyone who shot so I was on my own. While searching the good ol web for traditional archery information, I came a across a website called Shaffer silvertip bows. On their home page was a bow I instantly fell in love with. It was a 3 pc recurve with a shedua riser and flat grain zebrawood limbs. So, I decided, why not build this bow for this bow swap. I'll be doing a 58" take down recurve with a shedua riser with zebrawood accent stripe and flat grain zebrawood limbs. So, as soon as the shedua gets here, i'll be in business. Looking forward to seeing how this bow comes together.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on January 31, 2018, 07:25:00 PM
intoxicated chicken    :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:


trad,that sounds sweet!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on January 31, 2018, 07:57:00 PM
Only Roy has intoxicated chickens....  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jess stuart on January 31, 2018, 08:46:00 PM
C. Johnson here is another option.  I once built a bow with zebrawood veneers and the glass was horrible, full of streaks.  I sanded the glass just like I was going to spray finish on it but, sprayed it with brown paint instead.  I then put finish over the paint, that was several years ago and it still looks good.  I only wish I would have used some other color than brown.  I could have gone with some of the colors used in the past.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 01, 2018, 09:33:00 AM
Kenny, do you care to identify the white-ish "packing material" in the middle?  It's about to be part of my riser....
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/TyENSgb]  [img]http://i.imgur.com/TyENSgb.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 01, 2018, 10:22:00 AM
Looks like maple on fone. Will dbl check when I get to laptop...

I always hope folks can get some use out of the packing
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 01, 2018, 10:30:00 AM
No need.  I was kinda just joking about identifying it.  I also thought it looked like maple, either way it's getting used.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 01, 2018, 06:14:00 PM
LOL , it is maple I'm sure.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 02, 2018, 08:55:00 AM
Today I will start a new riser. This one would work but it seems that in removing the oozed glue on the jointer I got a smidgen out of parallel with the accents. Perfectly functional but it just glares at me when I see it.

  (http://i.imgur.com/3Sm0Wc6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/3Sm0Wc6)

  (http://i.imgur.com/InTv1h2.jpg) (https://imgur.com/InTv1h2)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 03, 2018, 07:38:00 PM
Took me all day to glue up the victims riser...  Reason being I had to make up the gluing jig first...  No more wonky glued up risers...

   (https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540140_10211119299475480_1505010582836312806_n.jpg?oh=67e1c5b84d97d20b6e761aa58cddfb1e&oe=5B189D9E)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 03, 2018, 07:46:00 PM
That's a nifty jig.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 03, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
agreed.....sweet jig
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 03, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 03, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
I like that jig Shredd. Great idea!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 04, 2018, 09:11:00 AM
Some quality work happening out there. Going to start on a new form today.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 04, 2018, 11:56:00 AM
Glued, sanded and feathered riser... Gluing jig worked great...  Riser is Light Sheoak with wenge and maple accents...  The accent is kinda my signature series...  It's simple and I like it...     ;)     :biglaugh:  

  (https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27655208_10211123628703708_6959633379076052684_n.jpg?oh=2696a54668862393a42dd6dcc4f306ac&oe=5B16A0FF)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 04, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
Looks good, shredd.  What is your plan for the limbs?

As for my progress, I've cut plywood for the form but not putting it together until I get some of that construction paper to bring it to specs.

A nice piece of Myrtle Is on the way from Oregon for the riser.

I'm struggling with core lams and glass colors.  Wanting this to be reminiscent of old school Hill style straight limbed backset.

Any thoughts on cores and glass?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on February 04, 2018, 10:48:00 PM
I've taken the first steps in my build.  Decided what to build and got an order off to Kenny for some lams which will be here soon.

Kenny is so awesome to deal with.  Sent him an email yesterday with what I needed and he hopped on them today and will ship in the morning.  I feel bad making him work on Superbowl Sunday.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 04, 2018, 11:20:00 PM
"Looks good, shredd. What is your plan for the limbs?"

  I am keeping it simple...  Going with what I know...  Maple cores and Black Glass...  I will be using Gordon's Glass for the first time so the stack will be different than my glass...  I hope I get it right or I might be building two bows...  lol...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 05, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
Got some materials from Kennym today, hopefully I can get things glued up this week. Hope my victim likes Bocote and Curly Maple. Sorry for the bad photo quality, it's a phone pic.

  (https://i.imgur.com/S5iIPfU.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jsweka:
I've taken the first steps in my build.  Decided what to build and got an order off to Kenny for some lams which will be here soon.

Kenny is so awesome to deal with.  Sent him an email yesterday with what I needed and he hopped on them today and will ship in the morning.  I feel bad making him work on Superbowl Sunday.
LOL , I won't watch football anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 07, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by C. Johnson:
Crap.....

I feel sick....

Cannot believe I just did that...

I flipped a god dang veneer.  So, now, I have my pencil marks where I wrote, "This side down" clearly visible under the clear glass.  Ugh....

I swear, the only way I could be any dumber is if I were bigger.

    :banghead:        :banghead:  
I was just thinking of your Boo-Boo this morning...  I here are some options for writing on your lam... After you lay out your lams that are gonna be glued write on the tips of the lam...  It usually gets cut off any way...  I also started writing info on the side of my lam near the tips...  That area also gets cut off...  Or just use colored glass...      :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Ahh, the agony. Should I go with a proven design or whip something out never seen before.....  :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 07, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
LOL...  You know what I am going through...  Personally I think you should give them a taste of Kenny...  Go with your standard and what you know works...

   I was gonna glue up the bow today but you know how it goes...  Yah gotta pick out and match your lams, scarf and glue some lams together, figure out stack thickness, record everything in the notebook, cutting lams to size, double and triple checking everything so that there is no mistakes, then there is always something else involved and you gotta answer the phone a few times...  Three hours later and no glue on the lams yet...  I got a small job to do this afternoon so it looks as though this bow might not get glued up today...
   And all I can picture is the poor victim is sitting out in the cold waiting by the mailbox...    :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 07, 2018, 06:37:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shredd:
LOL...  You know what I am going through...  Personally I think you should give them a taste of Kenny...  Go with your standard and what you know works...

   I was gonna glue up the bow today but you know how it goes...  Yah gotta pick out and match your lams, scarf and glue some lams together, figure out stack thickness, record everything in the notebook, cutting lams to size, double and triple checking everything so that there is no mistakes, then there is always something else involved and you gotta answer the phone a few times...  Three hours later and no glue on the lams yet...  I got a small job to do this afternoon so it looks as though this bow might not get glued up today...
   And all I can picture is the poor victim is sitting out in the cold waiting by the mailbox...      :)  
I say "standard Kenny" is getting stale, let's mix it up a bit and keep it exciting....    :rolleyes:

I wonder if I should have saved my Roy impersonation until after Kenny shipped my glass...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 07, 2018, 07:45:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
whip something out never seen before.....   :cool:  
As my wife tells the kids “Think before you hit send”LOL

Im not in the swap, but I’m all for checking out new designs.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 07, 2018, 07:55:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bvas:
 
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
whip something out never seen before.....    :cool:  
As my wife tells the kids “Think before you hit send”LOL

Im not in the swap, but I’m all for checking out new designs. [/b]
"Excuse me while I whip this out"
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on February 07, 2018, 08:09:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by C. Johnson:
Crap.....

I feel sick....

Cannot believe I just did that...

I flipped a god dang veneer.  So, now, I have my pencil marks where I wrote, "This side down" clearly visible under the clear glass.  Ugh....

I swear, the only way I could be any dumber is if I were bigger.

    :banghead:        :banghead:  
I was working on a maple-backed walnut board & did this.  My excuse is it was my first time on a wood-backed bow.  I'll think of another excuse next time it happens...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: RJonesRCRV on February 09, 2018, 01:32:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by C. Johnson:
Crap.....

I feel sick....

Cannot believe I just did that...

I flipped a god dang veneer.  So, now, I have my pencil marks where I wrote, "This side down" clearly visible under the clear glass.  Ugh....

I swear, the only way I could be any dumber is if I were bigger.

    :banghead:        :banghead:  
I think it would be a cool story to go along with the bow.  As long as it shoots, oh well.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 09, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
Things are moving right along...  Glued up bow yesterday...  Got her sanded and ready to trim the profile... I should know if I hit my weight in the next hour or two...

   (http://https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27858452_10211157422948543_2295331467893707926_n.jpg?oh=e4199d581bd7448f8cfae054fd833a1f&oe=5B195D6F)

   (http://https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27545533_10211157425948618_7518936105566584801_n.jpg?oh=5cd4f0af5ccf2693d980fc686e1c3f24&oe=5AD9B136)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 09, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
Oh chit the pics did no come out...  Will try again...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 09, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
(https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27858452_10211157422948543_2295331467893707926_n.jpg?oh=e4199d581bd7448f8cfae054fd833a1f&oe=5B195D6F)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 09, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
(https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27545533_10211157425948618_7518936105566584801_n.jpg?oh=5cd4f0af5ccf2693d980fc686e1c3f24&oe=5AD9B136)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 09, 2018, 03:18:00 PM
Nice Shredd....Love the shape
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 09, 2018, 05:48:00 PM
Very nice Shredd.

I finished up my lams and veneers for my victim. I need to work on the riser next but I have been waiting on new guide bearings for my bandsaw, which finally came today. As did the glass from Kenny. I may have to give him a call about those though, he forgot to include assembly instructions...   :confused:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2018, 08:08:00 PM
Ummm, glass , wood , wood ,wood ,wood, glass, cover it and yourself in glue, pop in the easybake oven and wait .......  Presto, a bow!!  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 09, 2018, 08:26:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by kennym:
Ummm, glass , wood , wood ,wood ,wood, glass, cover it and yourself in glue, pop in the easybake oven and wait .......  Presto, a bow!!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 09, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
But what's dah stack?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 09, 2018, 08:50:00 PM
Ya sure as heck don't want to ask me.   :confused:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on February 10, 2018, 03:19:00 AM
little update...

i have bought bamboo plank. the internal part was full. split it and make thick lam from it than suddenly loved the idea of making bow with this thick (little more than 1cm) lams. well i will keep this as plan a.

plan b is the bow that i have started long ago. which is much like chinese type.

plan c is i have ordered the metal casting for recurve limbs. next week i will have those castings. idea was the sequeze the lams with 2 metal casting with c clamps.

let's see which one i will be shipping.

at the end of the year i will be build 3 bow and 2 will stay at home  :D

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 10, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
I went ahead and drilled the riser for my victims bow and got the inserts epoxied in. I drew on the basic shape that I am going for but not sure if it shows well in the pic.

  (http://i.imgur.com/JPVB5Mt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/JPVB5Mt)

  (http://i.imgur.com/laN5szj.jpg) (https://imgur.com/laN5szj)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
Very nice, Lonnie..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 10, 2018, 05:59:00 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 10, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
I was joking....

LMFAO: )
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 10, 2018, 09:30:00 PM
Got it glued up today, gonna try to get the mounting holes drilled tomorrow. Hopefully centered up first try.

 (https://i.imgur.com/lPACrcY.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 10, 2018, 09:49:00 PM
Nice work guys...  Skeats did you give up on the accents???
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 11, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
Got my picks bow roughed out, limbs are straight and tiller is close. It's a couple pounds lighter than I wanted but it'll work, usually gain a couple pounds when I add the overlays. Glue on some overlays and a bunch of sanding and she should be a shooter!

 (https://i.imgur.com/kcFErBu.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/dKR8unv.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Malone on February 11, 2018, 05:04:00 PM
That's going to be one sweet looking bow 4 point.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 11, 2018, 08:01:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shredd:
Nice work guys...  Skeats did you give up on the accents???
Not totally but the are off just a bit. I know it will be covered by the limbs but it will drive me jack batty knowing it's there and I gave it to someone.

  (http://i.imgur.com/InTv1h2.jpg) (https://imgur.com/InTv1h2)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 11, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
Skeats...  I think yah jinxed me...  Mine are slightly off but you could never tell unless you really looked for them to be off...   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 11, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Have not put much thought into getting a bow...  Just making a good one and giving it away... But now that I saw 4Point's bow it has got me thinking about it...  Nice looking bow Brother...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 11, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
Travis , That is killer!!

Lonnie, is the side and face of block square?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 11, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Thanks guys, I hope someone will put it to good use.

 Lonnie, I'm guessing that you checked if your limb pads were square. If so you could just put a limb pad over lay on to cover the problem.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 12, 2018, 03:05:00 AM
I did check for square and they are all good there. I am pretty sure what I did was get a little out off kilter when cleaning up the riser block after glue up so even though it's all square, the inlays are not running perfectly parallel to the sides.

I will toy with a limb pad overlay and see how that turns out. Thank you for the idea.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 12, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
I think I see part of the problem.  "Somebody" is working in the shop in the middle of the night.    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 12, 2018, 02:27:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
I think I see part of the problem.  "Somebody" is working in the shop in the middle of the night.     :biglaugh:  
I don't see how people do that, I need my beauty sleep.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 12, 2018, 06:58:00 PM
It's not working!    :laughing:  

I was referring to your post that according to my computer was done at 1:05 AM.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 08:00:00 PM
Mike, you been hangin with Roy?

But that was a good one!   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 12, 2018, 08:07:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
It's not working!     :laughing:    

I was referring to your post that according to my computer was done at 1:05 AM.
It would have been about 2:05 for me, one of them far too frequent nights when the old eyes just pop open for no reason at all.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2018, 08:15:00 PM
Nah, it's cause ya gotta take a whiz..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 13, 2018, 12:04:00 AM
Hmmmmmm if it was for a whizz I'd be checking into the shop six times per night!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on February 13, 2018, 08:18:00 PM
I'm starting to feel inferior in my bowyer skills given some these bows being put together.

I have all the pieces/parts for my build.  Just gotta find some time to glue it up which may not be for a little while given my travel schedule for work.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2018, 08:36:00 PM
John, you'll feel much better when I post pics!   :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 14, 2018, 09:48:00 AM
I agree with some of the past post.  I forgot that I was even getting a bow until I started seeing pictures of the almost complete ones.  Awesome bow 4 point!
Bow season officially ends tomorrow for me, so I should be able to get rolling on my swap bow....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 11:52:00 AM
The time has come to decide what to do to ... err , for my victim. Will try to post a pic this eve.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 14, 2018, 02:33:00 PM
So I decided on a design and the lam material that I will use.  It will be an all wood tri lam, bamboo back, yellow heart core, and ipe belly.  I've never tried this combo, but it should look and perform well.  
I'm looking for opinions on riser and accent material to use.  Which one do you think complements the woods the best: cocobolo or zebra?  This will be the 1st time I use either one so I can't imagine the finished look.  
 (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/qOcLdiv] [img]http://i.imgur.com/qOcLdiv.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/hdxHPLz] [img]http://i.imgur.com/hdxHPLz.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 14, 2018, 03:35:00 PM
Both of those look good.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 14, 2018, 04:46:00 PM
I like them both, but I think the zebra goes best.
Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 04:48:00 PM
Coco all the way
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 05:53:00 PM
I'm ready to ship, honey locust sapling bow. Builtin arrow rest. Think its about 80@ 24", close nuff!!

 (http://i.imgur.com/hY020nM.jpg)

And the full draw pic, need to make a low stretch string tho.....

 (http://i.imgur.com/s2QGe52.jpg)

I think my victim will be pleasantly surprised when he gets his bow....

  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 14, 2018, 06:01:00 PM
Went aggressive with the deflex....let me know when the plans are available  
   :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 14, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
Let me guess...

Ya got my name in the bow swap, dint ya?

LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 14, 2018, 07:03:00 PM
You could probably drop a few pounds if ya got a little more bend mid limb.......or any at all.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on February 14, 2018, 07:42:00 PM
I like a bow that will blend in with the deer woods.    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 14, 2018, 07:44:00 PM
LOL...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 14, 2018, 08:37:00 PM
bmorv,
Just keep in m8nd that cocobolo darkens over time so eventually it could look like the ipe unless it's Mexican cocobolo but yours doesn't look like mexican. no problem with that just if you like contrast the zebra would be the better choice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 15, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
Thanks for the responses on my riser choice.  I thought the votes would be more one way or the other, but it looks like they are pretty even.  After looking at the pics again, I'm leaning coco with a yellow heart accent.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 15, 2018, 09:20:00 AM
Kenny I had a bow like that growing up.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 15, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
Starting plan C or D today, I forget which.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 16, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
Nice bend Kenny lucky victim
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on February 16, 2018, 11:39:00 AM
Haven't checked out this thread in a while - WOW!  Some very nice bows!  Some serious bow building talent here.

Kenny - how did you get my design?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Buemaker on February 16, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
My swap bow is finished also. Made only with an axe.
  (http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/imagejpg3_zpsa9d82797.jpg) (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/imagejpg3_zpsa9d82797.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Buemaker on February 16, 2018, 12:30:00 PM
Comes with a string from moose leg sinew.
  (http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/65EA5813-BE84-470B-BE25-1382BAFCE0D6_zpsir5r7gi6.jpg) (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/65EA5813-BE84-470B-BE25-1382BAFCE0D6_zpsir5r7gi6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
Mitch, I learned it from Roy, he has spys in your area.....

Bue, now I feel bad, mine has a manmade string material.  Guess I'll start plan E...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on February 16, 2018, 01:09:00 PM
The bows just keep getting better and better.    :confused:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 16, 2018, 01:55:00 PM
Bue, I hain't never seen ah 6 legged moose?    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 02:16:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Bue, I hain't never seen ah 6 legged moose?     :laughing:  
Horse don't know how many feet a moose has....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
Limb #1 is in the easy bake oven, just like Kenny tolt me.

  (http://i.imgur.com/AH77lJf.jpg) (https://imgur.com/AH77lJf)

  (http://i.imgur.com/vzxqMpT.jpg) (https://imgur.com/vzxqMpT)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 02:21:00 PM
I am a bit concerned though and maybe some experience will chime in. After I mixed the epoxy really well and started laying it on, I noticed it was granular. At that point I was committed so I went all in.

Has anyone else seen EA-40 get grainy?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 16, 2018, 02:57:00 PM
I've seen the "A" get gritty but it seems to smooth out if warmed up.  When it gets like that I relegate it to furniture repairs, etc.

That limb could last six, eight months!   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
I've seen the "A" get gritty but it seems to smooth out if warmed up.  When it gets like that I relegate it to furniture repairs, etc.

That limb could last six, eight months!    :laughing:  
Will that be the furniture I break if the limb comes apart?    :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 16, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
You are such a pragmatist.   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 03:22:00 PM
WHOA, easy them big words there. I am just a simple MO boy.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 16, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Bue, I hain't never seen ah 6 legged moose?     :laughing:  
That would be the heavy duty all terrain moose. You should see one climb a steep hill!    ;)
Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 16, 2018, 07:31:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
I am a bit concerned though and maybe some experience will chime in. After I mixed the epoxy really well and started laying it on, I noticed it was granular. At that point I was committed so I went all in.

Has anyone else seen EA-40 get grainy?
I had some do that. Used it to glue together overlay material. After 72hrs at room temp, it still hadn’t completely hardened. So I trashed them.

Hopefully the oven cures it for you.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 16, 2018, 08:09:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bvas:
 
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
I am a bit concerned though and maybe some experience will chime in. After I mixed the epoxy really well and started laying it on, I noticed it was granular. At that point I was committed so I went all in.

Has anyone else seen EA-40 get grainy?
I had some do that. Used it to glue together overlay material. After 72hrs at room temp, it still hadn’t completely hardened. So I trashed them.

Hopefully the oven cures it for you. [/b]
The squeeze out seems to have set up ok, we'll see tomorrow when I can turn it loose.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 17, 2018, 01:21:00 AM
Lonnie, I hope it works, I've never seen smooth on seem grainy. If it hardened it should be ok, only time I've had problems with smooth on I had to much part B in the mix.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 17, 2018, 01:35:00 AM
She's ready for finish sanding and finish. Shoots good for me, hope my victum likes it.
 (https://i.imgur.com/wWQD9nl.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/iIhRm8X.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/ZSVEPPN.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/i7X8VrL.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 17, 2018, 06:55:00 AM
Not sure how a victim could justify NOT liking that. Very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2018, 06:56:00 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Buemaker on February 17, 2018, 09:18:00 AM
Looking good great work
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 17, 2018, 10:06:00 AM
It looks like the limb has survived the first stage of it's life. No apparent bubbles, the EA-40 seems to be ok in spite of the graininess and I managed to keep all the tape on the outside of the limb this time.

I am pleased with how the Beli looks under glass although I am not completely sold on the riser accents. I may have to be at the rate I am getting this built.

When it comes time to sign the thing I feel I should pass it around to a number of people here to sign as well, I think y'all have put as much in to this as I am.

Enough chatter, here is the progress so far with the second limb in the box.


  (http://i.imgur.com/3QXSm57.jpg) (https://imgur.com/3QXSm57)

  (http://i.imgur.com/ag9Xn8P.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ag9Xn8P)

  (http://i.imgur.com/q4dfoiq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/q4dfoiq)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 17, 2018, 10:08:00 AM
Very good job on that. I need to get with it, don’t want to be late....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
Very nice, Lonnie..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 17, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Shweeet..!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: styksnstryngs on February 17, 2018, 12:03:00 PM
These are some nice bows, fellas.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 17, 2018, 01:08:00 PM
Everything I’m seeing is looking great!
I’ve got mine roughed out and ready to start bending with the long string. I’ve still gotta do a bit of cleanup, but the floor tiller from the roughed out tapers look and feel good. I should be able to hit above 50# with it without having to heat treat and pike. Though I’ll have those options if necessary. It’s sapwood backed Osage 72” t2t and 7/8” wide at the handle for 10” each way from center then tapering to 3/8” tips. Also nice tight rings at 32 per inch. I’ve got as much out of this stave as it would give I think.
Righ now I’m debating. Victorian era horn nocks, or Viking style single side nock with 2” bracing levers?
I’m leaning towards the Viking style nock. Though the handle will be wrapped in some old eleph leather to fill out the grip more, as it already feels tiny in the hand. But still floor tillera like it’s still pushing 70#
I’ll put up some pics as soon as I figure out how to post from imgur as the picture and not just the link.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 17, 2018, 01:12:00 PM
Kyle, when in IMGUR copy the bottom link on the right sight, then you can paste it directly in to your Tradgang, text input box when you are typing your reply. You can even do that from your "Quick Reply" box.

  (http://i.imgur.com/5ystihj.png) (https://imgur.com/5ystihj)

  (http://i.imgur.com/2KXz9JL.png) (https://imgur.com/2KXz9JL)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 17, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
Thanks for the advise skeaterbait. For some reason I can’t get that code to pop up with my phone, just the option to copy link. I even tried searching for how to from an iPhone. So I guess for now links will have to do. It’s supposed to be a long click will bring up that code . But it didn’t. So here’s what I’ve got going on.  https://i.imgur.com/CvTGolQ.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/Owv4wQ6.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/vOII6vk.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/fGDk9HG.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/iC74vRT.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 17, 2018, 02:24:00 PM
Doesn't work for me with the phone either.  Works great on the desktop though.

It's the reason I don't post many pictures lately.  On sites that allow direct upload of pictures it's easy to take a pic with the phone, resize it on the phone and upload directly to the site.

TG will be going there soon!   :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 17, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
Well, I glued up plan E, first one that's made it to glue stage. Dang, like a girl in a shoe store, just can't decide.....

First for me , 5 wood lams , hope it don't turn out over 35# with the extra lam.  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 17, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Well, I glued up plan E, first one that's made it to glue stage. Dang, like a girl in a shoe store, just can't decide.....

First for me , 5 wood lams , hope it don't turn out over 35# with the extra lam.   :D  
Somebody better start working out...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 17, 2018, 02:51:00 PM
Try this.....
Search    M.imgur.com
This should get you the desktop version to access the bbcode.
When it gives you the option, DO NOT open in apps!!!

You can use the app to upload. Then use  the desktop version to copy links.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 17, 2018, 03:23:00 PM
Didn’t say at what draw length did I? Might be 80 if the string stays on....   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 18, 2018, 04:37:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by wood carver 2:
 
Quote
Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Bue, I hain't never seen ah 6 legged moose?      :laughing:  
That would be the heavy duty all terrain moose. You should see one climb a steep hill!     ;)  
Dave. [/b]
Holy cr$p that cracked me up...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 18, 2018, 06:44:00 PM
Got the profile cut out and got her bending purty good...  She is just rough sanded and needs to be tillered... I have got a light week for work so I plan on gluing up over-lays, tillering and shaping the riser this week...
   (http://tradarchers.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29.0;attach=5222;image)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 18, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
Drawn 28"

    (http://tradarchers.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=29.0;attach=5223;image)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on February 19, 2018, 05:11:00 PM
I need to get some pics up, spent the better part of yesterday afternoon tillering bow. Coming along nice! I am having a tough time uploading pictures from my google pics. Any pointers or do I need to use another format?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2018, 05:26:00 PM
I’m making progress but may keep it secret....    :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 19, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 19, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
SECRET? What the heck, what kind of thread would this be if everyone keeps secrets....   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2018, 07:36:00 PM
My camera is in the sock drawer..... (old joke)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: fujimo on February 19, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
hey Hova    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 19, 2018, 09:07:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
My camera is in the sock drawer..... (old joke)
What are you talking about?  That joke never gets old.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 19, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
I got my shedua riser and hardware in. I'm in Arkansas this week so i'll hit it when I get back.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 20, 2018, 09:32:00 AM
Looking good guys... I'm feeling the pressure watching some of you progress so fast.  

Got my lams grinded and bamboo profiled.  I just need to get my riser figured out and I'll be ready for glue up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 20, 2018, 02:28:00 PM
Shredd, that is a super looking profile. Makes for an elegant bow for sure.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 20, 2018, 04:08:00 PM
Boy am I glad that battle is over. Thanks to Kenny's extremely high threshold for pain (that would be me hounding him with questions) I was able to get my cheapo HF self-centering dowel jig adjusted so that it actually is centering now. It was off center by more than 1/32". That may not seem a lot, but when you are off by 1/32" on one end of the riser, then turn it around and do 1/32" on the other end that is offset you get about 1/64" offset. Which translated out to the tip of a limb it gets real big.

Anyhow, I believe I have conquered this obstacle am ready for the next... who am I kidding, I'm having a beer.

  (http://i.imgur.com/QfCsX2P.jpg) (https://imgur.com/QfCsX2P)

  (http://i.imgur.com/KQqofn8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/KQqofn8)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on February 20, 2018, 04:43:00 PM
Here we go! Tillering done!

  (http://i.imgur.com/aXMmqje.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aXMmqje)

  (http://i.imgur.com/QqQjyP0.jpg) (https://imgur.com/QqQjyP0)

  (http://i.imgur.com/tCxOiMH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tCxOiMH)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2018, 05:26:00 PM
Lonnie, you got that one by the ...uh yeah, family site.

Looks good Jacob!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
I did take a couple pics, the bow is 4# over right now, will make 33# easily.....

She has a blonde streak in her otherwise darkness....

 (http://i.imgur.com/d1XI0Aj.jpg)

My 5th wood lam in this one is red for some hilites.... glue line looks OK I guess. (Beat Roy to that one!   :goldtooth: )
 
 (http://i.imgur.com/bZN6Xw4.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Nice guys.

Lonnie, toilet paper on the work bench? LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 20, 2018, 06:53:00 PM
LOL, I had a crappy outlook today
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 20, 2018, 07:48:00 PM
damn you guys are making me look bad...not that it takes much...great looking stuff!!! I guess I should order some more thunder bird got 2 0r three ready to glue up for my poor victim lol
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
No problem, Lonnie.

Ole Kennym has ah porta jon in his shop..     :laughing:    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Woodpuppy on February 20, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
This ones fun to watch! (Subscribed)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 20, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
I appreciate it Beachbowhunter...  Looking Great Skeats...  Deitz is that green glass?? Nice Fade Kenny...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 20, 2018, 10:30:00 PM
Some nice looking work goin on!!!

But I’m still trying to figure out what Kenny’s doin. Other than using his pocket knife for a pry bar.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2018, 11:28:00 PM
Some good look'n bows guys!

Lonnie, I think everyone struggles with hole drilling jigs. I sure haven't figured out how to drill takedown holes with 100% confidence.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2018, 11:39:00 PM
I like them all and I hate to show favoritism but I hope Shredd's bow is made for a long draw. She's a sexy girl!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 21, 2018, 04:36:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by 4 point:
I like them all and I hate to show favoritism but I hope Shredd's bow is made for a long draw. She's a sexy girl!
I would love to say the same but Shredd's pics don't show for me. Just a little square
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 21, 2018, 08:14:00 AM
I finally got (re)started on my victim's bow.  Since the great lam flipping debacle, I decided to go a little different direction in materials.

I have a special piece of wood I'm using.  It's special in the sense that it was given to me by my father, a gunsmith, who purchased it sometime in the early 1970's. He had intended to use it to make pistol grips. Apparently, lace wood doesn't really show off it's striking grain characteristics as well as he would have liked on smaller pieces.

Anyway, I'm combining this lacewood with tigerwood and maple.  I'll try to get some pics up tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 21, 2018, 09:14:00 AM
I am curious...  Who else cannot see my pics on here???
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2018, 09:18:00 AM
I can't see them either. Takes me to a site that say access denied.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 21, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
I cant ether !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 21, 2018, 09:40:00 AM
I can see the ones posted on the 9th but after that they're just boxes.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Crittergetter on February 21, 2018, 09:45:00 AM
I can’t either! Thought it was just me! Lol
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
I can’t either! Thought it was just me!

No comment..     :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 21, 2018, 12:21:00 PM
I can't see them either, but I saw Roy coming.    :biglaugh:  

Ok, new question for all participants in the swap.  Don't answer if you are not actually in the swap.  This is my devious round about way of asking my recipient without giving anything away.   :o  

What partipants are hunters and which are not?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 21, 2018, 12:32:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
I can't see them either, but I saw Roy coming.     :biglaugh:    

Ok, new question for all participants in the swap.  Don't answer if you are not actually in the swap.  This is my devious round about way of asking my recipient without giving anything away.    :o    

What partipants are hunters and which are not?
I've actually never been archery hunting.  I would love to try it some day soon.  Truthfully though, I haven't been big game hunting since the early 90's.

Anymore, I mostly shoot prairie dogs and coyotes.  Or, shoot AT them anyway.    ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 21, 2018, 01:02:00 PM
I hunt a little....   :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2018, 01:03:00 PM
A little what?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 21, 2018, 01:03:00 PM
I hunt, which forces me to buy a lot of burgers....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 21, 2018, 01:26:00 PM
Mostly quiet is what I’m after Mr. Roy...  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 21, 2018, 02:18:00 PM
I hunt.  
Try for elk skeaterbait, you can make a lot of burgers with it.  2 birds with one arrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 21, 2018, 02:38:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BMorv:
I hunt.  
Try for elk skeaterbait, you can make a lot of burgers with it.  2 birds with one arrow.
LOL, you assume I can make that arrow go where it's needed. I am a poster child for the old archery adage "So that's where I was looking"
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 21, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
my wife is a widow come September through January which just happens to correspond to colorado elk and PA deer season
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 21, 2018, 05:21:00 PM
From the time the leaves start to drop  until the start of trapping season I’ll be found under a brushy tree with a bent stick in my hand, harassing all the fluffy critters.

I’ve decided to make my victims bow into a Hedeby Viking bow as opposed to a more Victorian style elb. I’ll be back to it as soon as I can get a Penobscot down to weight. 40# at 27” before I lashed in the backer bow, and 70# at 15” after. I was more expecting a 20-25# weight gain, not that much. I’m glad I need to drop weight as the main bow could flex more in the outer half of each limb.ill get that evened out then I’ll drop some weight from thenbacker bow.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 21, 2018, 07:25:00 PM
Put overlays on the poor victims bowthingy

 (http://i.imgur.com/sRKs0DX.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/FFh8f0k.jpg)

   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 21, 2018, 09:26:00 PM
I'm mostly a hunter, I do shoot a few 3D shoots every year.

Looking good Kenny, at least from what I can tell from your secretive pictures!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 21, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
hunter/hunter Kenny that one is no good you had better send it to me    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on February 22, 2018, 03:07:00 PM
Yes green glass on mine, going for the classic hunter look! So far the colors are coming together real nice. Next step, two piece transformation!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 22, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
Worked on her a little today, see her blonde streak?

 (http://i.imgur.com/VWTh8Nm.jpg)

And was delighted to see it in the sight window...

 (http://i.imgur.com/Zd9oqns.jpg)

So I may finish her, maybe she will be fit to send off ....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on February 22, 2018, 04:17:00 PM
WOW that is amazing!Very beautiful!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 22, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
Finally got to work!  Laid out my first form ever, took a note from kenny with the 1/4" template.

  (http://i.imgur.com/aZoamxW.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aZoamxW)

Here it is all glued and screwed.  Tomorrow I will go back to the wood shop and cut it out and route it.

  (http://i.imgur.com/CPpUUpd.jpg) (https://imgur.com/CPpUUpd)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 22, 2018, 05:54:00 PM
Nice Kenny and Chris.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 22, 2018, 07:15:00 PM
Looking good Guys...  Kenny...  What the wood on the limbs...  That's some gorgeous stuff...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on February 22, 2018, 08:13:00 PM
Looking sharp Kenny!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 22, 2018, 08:20:00 PM
I’m a wood bow guy, but the looks of these glass bows are making me really hope that one of them ends up on my doorstep.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on February 22, 2018, 09:06:00 PM
Nice looking bows fellas.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 23, 2018, 05:21:00 AM
Nice looking bow Kenny, nice form there Chris, Im doing the same that templet is a big plus keeping things lined up !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2018, 08:33:00 AM
Looking good guys! Rich, that is a pc of hickory that was split on the end an couldn't sell. But I can make it work. Sorry to my victim.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 23, 2018, 09:26:00 AM
What's to be sorry for? They look fantastic.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2018, 09:35:00 AM
Sorry to use broken materials in her bow ...    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 23, 2018, 11:20:00 AM
I am sure she will be very happy with it.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 23, 2018, 11:32:00 AM
She..???  Where are all the Hot Babes.??? I thought the chicks were into Bowyers...  That's why I took up bow making and joined this forum...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2018, 12:08:00 PM
Shredd, they like Long Bows..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2018, 12:32:00 PM
Hmmm, should I ???

 (http://i.imgur.com/0n6x87I.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 23, 2018, 01:05:00 PM
Yes you should...And update pics of the process so I can learn     :)  
Been wanting to try out some antlers....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
Well so far I’ve picked a piece for riser back  overlay and a couple for tips. Thinned out to where I like and soaked glue side of antler with ca . Will rough up and install later today .  Have phenolic on tips and will put sliver over that.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2018, 02:29:00 PM
Yup ya should.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 23, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
nopoe ... uynder,lol
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 23, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Thought I had made a flaw free bow but after final finish when its in the sun you can see two small cloudy spots in the glass. Nothing serious but enough to bug me. Any of you guys ever build a bow that you couldn't find a flaw in? I sure haven't been able to!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 24, 2018, 04:53:00 AM
Coming along slowely. I got it cleaned up with a scraper, so I’ve still gotta sand it smooth. It’s got single side nocks cut in leaving a 2.5” bracing lever. Which isn’t reallly needed for a bow of this weight, but it’s te design I’m going with. The floor tiller looked good so I went ahead and braced it. I don’t think it looks too bad. So the next step I’ll start pulling it back on te tree and see where it is weight wise. Imc will get it pulled a bit to see where it’s starting. Ive gottado a little tweak to align the string and I may do a mild heat treat while I’m at it.
I don’t think it’ll take muc more to get to full draw. I can probably just about excercise it back while tweaking the tiller a bit.
 https://i.imgur.com/ZYVahp0.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/NXhzIp4.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on February 24, 2018, 02:50:00 PM
Just recieved my bow supplies in the mail from Kenny. Got a couple bandsaw blades on order so when I recieve them I can get started! Hopefully next week. Thanks Kenny for the supplies!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2018, 04:07:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by soy:
nopoe ... uynder,lol
HUH??

There is a flaw in every bow, even the pro's .

Just how it works. I usually have several in mine!    :D

Dannon, glad it got there quickly! I've had a couple real slow ones lately!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
Pretty happy with the antler attempt...

 (http://i.imgur.com/9EzLZ2n.jpg)

This pic didn't turn out well..

 (http://i.imgur.com/AZ74jWN.jpg)

And she has some blonde highlights too I found. I'm kinda in love.....

 (http://i.imgur.com/FTPcEPg.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 24, 2018, 05:07:00 PM
I wondered if this is one you already had made up. 2009?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2018, 05:15:00 PM
Ha , batteries died in camera and I didn’t get set date again . Got it now ...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on February 24, 2018, 05:20:00 PM
Looking good Kenny!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 24, 2018, 05:41:00 PM
That’s awesome Kenny!  Antlers came out great
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2018, 05:47:00 PM
I'm calling foul.... LOL

Very nice Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 24, 2018, 05:50:00 PM
4 point, that’s what makes each bow handcrafted by the bowyer.  The only ones that I know of that are perfect are the ones that machines make.    I don’t think we would be in this swap if we were interested in those bows.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2018, 05:50:00 PM
Sock drawer is hard on batteries Roy. Must be the smell in there.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on February 24, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
Like the antler overlay.  Very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 24, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
The antlers looks sweet Kenny !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 24, 2018, 06:01:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
 
Quote
Originally posted by soy:
nopoe ... uynder,lol
HUH??

There is a flaw in every bow, even the pro's .

Just how it works. I usually have several in mine!     :D  

 [/b]
Tell me about it...  I took my time double checked everything and when I went to spray the bow I looked down and saw a flaw...  I said, "Too late now...  Finish is going on"...  
   Well...  Needles to say...  I got the first coats of finish on today...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 24, 2018, 06:52:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Sock drawer is hard on batteries Roy. Must be the smell in there.....
You do know that you're supposed to wash the socks before they go into the drawer right???
   :dunno:    ;)  
Very nice bow, by the way.
Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 24, 2018, 07:09:00 PM
Keep yer socks in one drawer far far away from yer pink undies drawer.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 24, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
Got the form all cleaned up and the riser cut. Will add the aluminum face and the angle iron straightening legs tomorrow.

  (http://i.imgur.com/W9P9uy1.jpg) (http://imgur.com/W9P9uy1)

  (http://i.imgur.com/OcfCIoP.jpg) (http://imgur.com/OcfCIoP)

  (http://i.imgur.com/1896H8X.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1896H8X)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 24, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
Kenny, those antler overlays look great! I'm liking that bow.

Chris, thats going be a good look'n riser.

I'm working on a curvy selfbow now. After a few hours working on that thing the flaws in my glass bow seem minor!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Crittergetter on February 24, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
Looking good everyone!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 08:42:00 AM
Is it still progress if you are moving backwards?   :archer2:  

I braced my victims bow this morning for the first time. I was very surprised, it's sitting at a 1/8" negative tiller. For me I count that as a win.

I did also find that I am about 5-7 lbs under weight which unfortunately is enough to be out of the requested specs. Which is baffling, because according to Binghams chart, at the total stack measurement (measured right at the end of the wedge fade), I should be right in the middle of the 10 lb range that was specified.

The bow is plenty long so I have room to pike it a bit so my question(s) will be around doing that. If I take another inch I will gain X number of pounds, but how much of that will I lost by narrowing the limbs so they don't look like tree trunks and have all that extra tip weight.


  (http://i.imgur.com/TQJtMGr.jpg) (https://imgur.com/TQJtMGr)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
OH, I forgot to add that limbs are already 1" shorter than what Bingham's call for so I am doubly surprised at the lower draw weight.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2018, 08:48:00 AM
Can't you swap ends and have 1/8" pos tiller? doesn't look like you have shaped riser yet?

My bows gain around 5-6# when you take an inch off each end.

I think Binghams measure lams at the butt thickness instead of the end of wedge. That would make you lighter tho, correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Did you go with plan length and taper rate?

How about the limb pad angle?

Scale good?

Got yer glasses on?    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 08:52:00 AM
LOL, yep, had the glasses. The scale however could and probably should be questioned. Maybe I better look in to a new one to make sure. This one is pretty old and was used in a pro shop so it could very well be worn out.

I guess I didn't really think about taking that 1" off would changed the limb width. Which is funny since I thought about that when asked my question    :knothead:

Is it better to have positive tiller over negative?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 09:01:00 AM
According to the digital bathroom scale the bow scale is spot on. Dang it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2018, 09:23:00 AM
How about the limb pad angle?

And also, they use some .050 glass, what ya got in that one?

 I haven't tested this personally, but I've heard .040 vs .050 will make about 10# with same total stack.....

Do they measure stack at end of wedge now?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 10:24:00 AM
Pad angle is 11° per the drawing. The weight chart really doesn't say anything about glass thickness, it just gives a total stack. I never gave the glass a second thought other than calculating the stack. You can bet I will from now on.   :thumbsup:  

I only measured at the end of the wedge because it was easier than measuring the butt end and trying to cipher that without the wedge. I checked my specs and I am definitely equipped with a NON-ciphering brain.

I shortened it another inch and even with narrowing the limbs I appear to be 2-3 lbs over the bottom end of the range. WHEW!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2018, 10:27:00 AM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 11:19:00 AM
Skeats...  Good Drama going on here...  You had me at the edge of my seat...  :)

   Glad its gonna work for yah...

  You could always pop out another riser at an 8* angle...  That should add a couple of lbs...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 25, 2018, 02:46:00 PM
Thanks skeater, nice to see that I'm not the only one who screws   everything up!   :laughing:

Shall we make it a contest?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 03:43:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Shredd:
Skeats...  Good Drama going on here...  You had me at the edge of my seat...   :)  

   Glad its gonna work for yah...

  You could always pop out another riser at an 8* angle...  That should add a couple of lbs...
Interesting idea. Of course that would mean I would have to go to the wood store again.... whatever would I do...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 03:44:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by monterey:
Thanks skeater, nice to see that I'm not the only one who screws   everything up!    :wavey:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 03:48:00 PM
Ok Men...  Can you all see this pic???


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28277136_10211264818553366_2368109330181236897_n.jpg?oh=382c113c66f6052bc8857e26c6c001a0&oe=5B1298A9)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 25, 2018, 03:51:00 PM
Yep !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 03:51:00 PM
And this one???


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28472112_10211264824473514_3946093611338944254_n.jpg?oh=c88ec5fb4b885117f0caf09713543795&oe=5B44B96A)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2018, 04:03:00 PM
Yup on both.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
I got the final coats of finish on this weekend and got a string made. I think she's good to go!      (https://i.imgur.com/bzG7W2g.jpg?1)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2018, 04:30:00 PM
I can see them too Shredd. Looks  good!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 25, 2018, 04:41:00 PM
I can see them as well. Looks good.

4 Point, very nice work.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2018, 04:46:00 PM
Very nice 4point.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Woodpuppy on February 25, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Wow, very nice indeed!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 25, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Got the irons and the aluminum face on the form today, and will be filling countersinks with adhesive and final sanding it tomorrow.  That form weighs about 50 lbs now    :D  

  (http://i.imgur.com/V8UzF4y.jpg) (https://imgur.com/V8UzF4y)

  (http://i.imgur.com/1b34TOQ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/1b34TOQ)

  (http://i.imgur.com/aUFUzQp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aUFUzQp)

All of y'alls bows look so nice, I'm starting to get a little nervous about how mine will measure up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 25, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
I gave the bow it’s first test pull on the tree on my way out of the house to work. I went almost straight to a 20” pull where it was pulling 40#. It’s looking like it should hit 50# if it doesn’t give me too much fuss getting to full draw. I’ve gotta get the midlimb a bending more and give it its clean up sanding. I think I’ll give it a good clean up, then I’ll heat treat when I give it a little left and right correction, as the string lies on the opposite side of the handle I need it to.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
Whoa...  That's a Looker, 4 Point...  Nice job...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2018, 08:14:00 PM
Thanks guys!

Chris if your bow looks as good as your form you have nothing to worry about. My forms are never that nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2018, 08:32:00 PM
Kyle, can't wait to see the full draw picture with that natural hinge on the right limb.. That gotta be fun tillering..     :)  

Why do you have the string grooves so far in from the ends of the limb tips?

   (http://i.imgur.com/XpSxpbD.jpg) (https://imgur.com/XpSxpbD)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 25, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
Sweet bow Travis!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 25, 2018, 09:12:00 PM
Thanks for bringing up the picture. I still haven’t been able to get it to do that from my phone yet. I need to play with it some more.
I’m copying the Viking style with this bow.(can’t remember the name atm). Where they left bracing levers past the nock. Which is a single side nock. The levers really aren’t needed on a bow of this draw weight. But why not. And if it ends up a bit thumpy in the hand I can cut them off later. I made one bow in this style before and it was an eastern red cedar self bow pulling 40# at 27”. It was the smoothest shooting bow I’ve shot, no thump at all, even with te levers. Though that could be because it was ERC and a dense Osage might act different.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2018, 09:21:00 PM
Thanks Kenny, that was a really nice piece of curly maple you sent me!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
She be Done...  Time to Victimize...

  A little about the bow...

  Sheoak riser with wenge and maple accents, Maple cores in the limbs, Custom glass on the over lay that reminds me of a mineral rock that shimmers in the light... Solid glass tip blocks similar to G-10...


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1930884_10211266781762445_5523460728095697693_n.jpg?oh=7d658b2b245dd1c538d1f79cf02eb6cf&oe=5AFFB801)


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1930898_10211266773562240_5749131656444457402_n.jpg?oh=f4664b50345af424fb3afcefd2d87bdd&oe=5B0ABBB1)  


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168730_10211266779442387_8283486656421121507_n.jpg?oh=c7eae8b7932a8b4577ee5d0be2f15117&oe=5B088FC8)


   (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28167128_10211266776082303_464969612418151775_n.jpg?oh=e6c369b87daf7ab6c8bf5dc608e563b8&oe=5B074CD5)


  (https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28277379_10211266781082428_7013527059326738111_n.jpg?oh=e17fdbc57d0e0441e32090512e1c6da3&oe=5B08B385)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 25, 2018, 09:49:00 PM
That is pretty darn nice.. Good thinking with the crevice on the shelf for the fletching to traverse through. Damn good thinking.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 25, 2018, 10:03:00 PM
Thanks...  I started out shooting vaned arrows and I still do so I slot my shelves...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 25, 2018, 10:20:00 PM
Shredd, your Kung Fu is strong!  That bow looks amazing!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 25, 2018, 10:28:00 PM
Ok,after two back to back hell weeks at work, I finally got to spend some quality time out in my shop with the tools and equipment I love best!

Made some good progress on my victim's bow.  Got her glued up and baked, and this time, all the lams came out in the correct orientation.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 25, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/YD5VCTi.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YD5VCTi)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 25, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/PQC2R4O.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PQC2R4O)

The pics here don't do the lacewood justice.  It looks incredible under glass.  I'll post more pics as I go.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
I like it Shredd!
 
Thats gonna be sharp Craig!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on February 25, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
Some nice looking bows being made - well done guys!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 26, 2018, 05:49:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Sweet bow Travis!!!
Travis=4 Point?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 26, 2018, 05:56:00 AM
Nice Craig.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 26, 2018, 09:52:00 AM
I got my tips mostly done, there is a lack of symmetry in a couple of spots but they may just stay that way and I will market it as character.

Next I have to figure out why my limb pads ended up not flat.    :banghead:  

  (http://i.imgur.com/DplTJgi.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DplTJgi)

  (http://i.imgur.com/8LXLkWH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/8LXLkWH)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 26, 2018, 05:45:00 PM
sure is a great lot so far...great job,and I hope the one im working on is in the same line as yall...keep the pics coming!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 26, 2018, 06:02:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
 
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
Sweet bow Travis!!!
Travis=4 Point? [/b]
Yup.

(Click on their avatar name on the left and pull up their real name, Etc. )
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 26, 2018, 06:03:00 PM
Some sweet bows going on here! I’m definitely feeling amateur now.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 26, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
... but they may just stay that way and I will market it as character.
Lonnie - funny thing, I always market it as character too.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 27, 2018, 04:19:00 AM
Quick form question, would 1/2" beech dowels be sufficient for a rubber band type form?  If not, I have 3/4" ash dowels available to me as well.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 27, 2018, 05:36:00 AM
You guys are doing some awsome bows over here wow !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 27, 2018, 07:47:00 AM
EvilDog, use the 3/4".  Don't ask me how I know.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 27, 2018, 08:19:00 AM
Ah come on, Craig.. Gotta be a story there. LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 27, 2018, 10:42:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by C. Johnson:
EvilDog, use the 3/4".  Don't ask me how I know.
Found 3/4" beech dowels, got those.  Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 27, 2018, 11:05:00 AM
I use 3/8 or 7/16 oak dowels with no problems.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 27, 2018, 12:41:00 PM
OK Victim...  Your bow is shipped and on the way...  I hope that you Dig It and find good use for it...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 27, 2018, 12:48:00 PM
Shredd, quit making us (me) look bad, both in your promptness and quality of your work.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on February 27, 2018, 01:01:00 PM
These are all looking awesome! Great job everyone! I am going to need to add some accents to my green glass to fancify it a bit. All of your veneers are making me wish I went clear glass.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 27, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BMorv:
Shredd, quit making us (me) look bad, both in your promptness and quality of your work.
Hey Morv...  Good things take time...   ;)    :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 27, 2018, 04:18:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Ah come on, Craig.. Gotta be a story there. LOL
Yeah....  I used to use surgical tubing when I used rubber band type forms.  I was laying up a bow and pulling the tubing tight, broke one of the 3/8" maple dowels I was using on the form and managed to punch myself in the face.

I got a nice shiner out of the deal.  No one believed me as to how it happened, so I just started telling everyone that my wife beats me....    :smileystooges:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 27, 2018, 06:25:00 PM
ok so the most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions but I noticed it's a lefty and I haven't looked through everyone recently but the last time I looked I was the only one....just saying. oh and jealousy will get you no where.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 27, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
I'm a lefty   :thumbsup:   , but shoot a bow right handed.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 27, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
im rh...just saying   :wavey:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on February 27, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
I’m the same as skeater, lefty but shoot a right handed bow since that’s my dominant eye.  But I can shoot a lefty, so if tradbowyer has to forfeit his bow since he tried too hard to figure out who was making him a bow, I’ll be happy to take it    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 27, 2018, 10:59:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/nfAxuc6.jpg) (http://imgur.com/nfAxuc6)

Made some more progress.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 27, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/q5kOQ2i.jpg) (http://imgur.com/q5kOQ2i)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 27, 2018, 11:02:00 PM
 (http://i.imgur.com/5d54aIr.jpg) (http://imgur.com/5d54aIr)

Grip and tip overlays glued up.  I use Smooth On for this, so I'll get back after it tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 27, 2018, 11:09:00 PM
Wow Craig, I like that!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2018, 05:03:00 AM
Very nice Craig.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 28, 2018, 07:18:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by TradBowyer:
ok so the most exercise some people get is jumping to conclusions but I noticed it's a lefty and I haven't looked through everyone recently but the last time I looked I was the only one....just saying. oh and jealousy will get you no where.
If it was me, I'd have reversed the images to mess with you. Just sayin'...

So I'm tracking one bow in the mail and one bow is ready to ship once the recipient gets his bow built. Not that anyone seems to need extra motivation so far this year -- I've seen some amazing progress.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2018, 07:35:00 AM
That will be the best bow tradbowyer ever had..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 28, 2018, 08:25:00 AM
Craig, that is a nice one!!

Reverse the image, hmmmm..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 28, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
Thank you guys!

That's a real compliment coming from you guys.  I've seen pictures of you guy's work and it's beautiful!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on February 28, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:


Reverse the image, hmmmm..
Are you referring to me...  LOL...   I have been busy and not getting enough sleep...    :rolleyes:   I guess I forgot...  Damn...    :banghead:    :banghead:     He's probably good at shaking his presents at Christmas and guessing what's inside too...

   Wow...  Looking nice Johnson...  I am trying to not get my hopes up...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 28, 2018, 11:50:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by 4 point:
I got the final coats of finish on this weekend and got a string made. I think she's good to go!        (https://i.imgur.com/bzG7W2g.jpg?1)
Beautiful work 4 Point. I really like to see risers that have really been sculpted.

Do you have a tip wedge in there?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2018, 12:01:00 PM
Nice...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on February 28, 2018, 01:36:00 PM
very nice 4 pt

LOL Roy well you got me on that one...I got nothing

forget shaking gifts...I just open them
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on February 28, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
Everybody is doing some real nice stuff!!

Craig, what did you do with the eggs??

I cut some wood for the form today.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on February 28, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
I looked at my victim's trade bow as I walked by. Then went fishin....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 28, 2018, 05:42:00 PM
The bows are still looking awesome!
I got mine back to 23” and is pulling 45#. It’s looking like it’ll end up about 50# by te time i get it to its full draw. I usually stop on the tree and sand and shoot in the bow the last couple inches. So I’ve got about 3” to go before that point. It should be just touching 50# at that point.  I do t think I’ll have to heat treat to get them weight. I don’t think I want to with this stave anyway as there are a few flaws that it might make worse by putting more stress on the sapwood back. I’ve been trying to correct a bit of string alignment issue by tillering it in, but it just isn’t wanting to move yet. So I’ll have to use some heat to bring it in. Otherwise the only heat will be used to bend the levers to match the curve of the bent bow.
The web browser won’t allow me to log in through my phone, so atleast for now the links are the best I can do.
 https://i.imgur.com/6T5j5bL.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on February 28, 2018, 05:57:00 PM
I managed to squeak a little time in the shop tonight and started shaping the riser. It looks a little more clunky than I had hoped but there is still wood to be removed.

If I keep this up I may actually end up with a bow-like object to send out.

  (http://i.imgur.com/OdwVccV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/OdwVccV)

  (http://i.imgur.com/IrKnumu.jpg) (https://imgur.com/IrKnumu)

  (http://i.imgur.com/0uEqJjQ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0uEqJjQ)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 28, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
Nice looking bow Skeater !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on February 28, 2018, 06:31:00 PM
Lookin good skeaterbait!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on February 28, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
I got some band saw blades ordered as soon as I get them in I hope to get started. Although I have decided on some changes. I think I need to order a few more items from Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on February 28, 2018, 06:33:00 PM
oh man it has started....busy working in the shope when I see not only usps but ups and fed ex roll through...next time lol    :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2018, 07:30:00 PM
Nice Lonnie.
coon-catcher, is that a hinge on the top limb or natural deflex in the stave?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 28, 2018, 07:50:00 PM
It’s a natural kink that has a reflex leading up to it. It definitely messes with the eye. It also has a bit of a hump at the handle that keeps making me think it’s hinging at the center.
I think it’s a few pages before this one that has a link to the picture of it before it’s first brace.
Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on February 28, 2018, 08:02:00 PM
Thanks beachbowhunter, yes I do use a tip wedge as well as a belly tip overlay.
 (https://i.imgur.com/GUVVwis.jpg)
 (https://i.imgur.com/MT0k3Tl.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2018, 08:27:00 PM
Ok coon..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on February 28, 2018, 08:37:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mo_coon-catcher:
It’s a natural kink that has a reflex leading up to it. It definitely messes with the eye. It also has a bit of a hump at the handle that keeps making me think it’s hinging at the center.
I think it’s a few pages before this one that has a link to the picture of it before it’s first brace.
Kyle
Looks challenging.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on February 28, 2018, 09:47:00 PM
Some great looking bows being built.

Really enjoy seeing all the different styles.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 28, 2018, 10:27:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:


Craig, what did you do with the eggs??

Took me a minute to figure out what you meant.     :confused:    

That's a little plastic paint tray that I use for cresting paint.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on February 28, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Skeater, I like the way that bow is shaping up. One of these days I'll have to try a takedown.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: arachnid on March 01, 2018, 01:23:00 AM
Man, you guys produce very fine pieces of art! I hope I'll be able to participate in the swap next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 01, 2018, 08:35:00 AM
Skeats...  That bow is coming out Nice...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 01, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Just got a shipping notice...  Someone should have a long box on their doorstep today...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on March 01, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
yes sir Shredd....just signed for it. Thank you much sir. Love the belly glass. I saw your note to call you before I shoot it.

Guys the bow looks really good. cant wait to shoot it. 62" 42@28.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 01, 2018, 01:44:00 PM
Is this the first arrival for this year?

Good job Shredd!!

We will need pics and a full report , Tim!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on March 01, 2018, 01:46:00 PM
I wish I could but it will have to wait. There was a note in there along the lines of "call me son before you even think of touching her"....or something along those lines....takes me back to my dating days  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 01, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
Wow, that Shredd just can't let go.   :biglaugh:  

Can't wait to hear what his instructions are.  Probably something like "no snipe hunting".    :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wooddamon1 on March 01, 2018, 02:27:00 PM
Some beautiful bows being built, you guys got skills.    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :notworthy:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 01, 2018, 03:53:00 PM
Got it pulled back to 50-52# at 26”. Now to sand and shoot in and she should settle in right at the numbers I’m after. Looks to be a nice smooth curve. At this point it has about 1/2” set at the 26” draw on the tree.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 01, 2018, 05:12:00 PM
It shoots well even with those big tips. No idea of the speed yet, but it seems fairly quick with a 625gr arrow. There’s a bit of a thump at shorter draws but feels pretty good once you get past 26”. I shoot 26” so I had to stretch a bit to get 27” draws for most shots and a handful at 28” where it draws right at 50#. Now it’s time for some finish work. Set was right about 1”
 https://i.imgur.com/Xy3nYn1.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/PSewOuD.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/XKruXjR.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/qBQRHNI.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 01, 2018, 07:54:00 PM
I just wanted to touch base about an arrow rest on that slotted shelf...  Hope I did not talk your ear off, Tim...  Once I get started on something I am passionate about I can be a motor mouth...

   Good thing it was a Lefty, I might have kept it for myself...    :)
 
   I had a tough time shooting that thing...  You might have thought I was Dyslexic...  I could not hit the target to save my life...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on March 01, 2018, 11:11:00 PM
LOL not at all man. I love talking bow designs. When I was designing mine, I would do all my F/D curves by hand including plotting in Excel, finding a matching curve formula and calculating the resulting potential energy and efficiency numbers out by hand using calculus lol so I'm with you on the scientific stuff. I can get lost in it but at the end of the day, its just a device that launches a projectile LOL. hopefully I can shoot tomorrow but we'll see. Rained all day and it sounds like a wind tunnel right now.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 02, 2018, 12:48:00 AM
I’m wanting to do an overlay across the entire lever and essentially replace the lever tip with a different material before I round it out. My debate: Buffalo horn, African Blackwood, or white ash? I have an inclination towards one already, but would like some input.
I’m also leaning towards leaving the handle bare and inlaying parallel charcoal powder lines to indicate the arrow pass. Then making an India ink mark to show where to line up your middle finger when grabbing the bow. Either that or a leather wrap of either soft thin (probably goat) leather, or some thick/tough elephant leather. The bare handle would be closer to traditional as I don’t think the Vikings used handle wraps, like the old English warbows. But it’s not really a fully authentic version right as is.

Opinions?

Thanks,
Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 02, 2018, 10:18:00 AM
I am working a bit more on shaping the riser and finished the shelf. And of course I couldn't help but take a few shots. It's not horrible and considering I had no nocking point, coupled with the fact that I am horrible shot to begin with: I won't complain for a 14 yard group.

Go easy now, I told you I was a horrible shot.

  (http://i.imgur.com/Iw5BfJR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Iw5BfJR)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: breazyears on March 02, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
Well I guess I missed out this year. I've been really busy. some really nice looking bows out their too.
 have fun ill be back next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 02, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
Skeater, are those the form alignment doohickeys that you made holding the target up.  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 02, 2018, 02:07:00 PM
LOL, you have a good memory. I had a few extry.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 02, 2018, 02:12:00 PM
I got the riser shaped and sanded. It's currently got the first coat of finish on it and drying. I would like for it to be a bit slimmer but I suppose I will learn that in time.

    (http://i.imgur.com/ijXHjAj.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ijXHjAj)

    (http://i.imgur.com/08ikezq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/08ikezq)

It's bringing the grain out better than expected.

   (http://i.imgur.com/qYMx0qr.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qYMx0qr)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 02, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
LOL, you have a good memory. I had a few extry.
Just don't let my wife in on that.  I'm milking the old age thing hard. :)

It could be thinned out a bit but it's sleeker than many I've seen.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 02, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
Pretty slick Lonnie!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 02, 2018, 06:29:00 PM
Everyone's bows are looking really nice!  Have a bit of catching up to do.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 02, 2018, 06:41:00 PM
The finish did bring out some colors and grain. It looks good

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on March 02, 2018, 08:54:00 PM
Looks great Lonnie
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 02, 2018, 09:01:00 PM
Looking good skeater.
Is that your first takedown?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 02, 2018, 09:05:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bvas:
Looking good skeater.
Is that your first takedown?
Sort of, I have another one that came out about 20 lbs under weight so I have been using it for a test dummy for all the stuff I needed to try on this one. However, in the process of that I got it up to 40 lbs after taking 3.5" off each limb.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 02, 2018, 09:17:00 PM
Nice, Lonnie.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 03, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
Finished the form! I may have over-engineered it a bit    :biglaugh:
Today I learned a spade bit will seriously jack up some plywood if you drill straight through from one side.  Also, this form will probably survive the apocalypse.  I ended up going with 3/4" beech dowels spaced 2", 1.5" down from the face of the form.  Going to get my lams joined tonight and then its riser template time!

  (http://i.imgur.com/KXHc0Aa.jpg) (https://imgur.com/KXHc0Aa)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on March 03, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
in here, we have very big carpenter's location in which thousands of carpenter shops, log shops, materials shop etc. very large facility.
i went there today and i guess i found what i was looking for  :D


 (https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1ZKFijgs8eNmhpQL9zmuOKrNsiWhm5zAo)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 03, 2018, 08:31:00 PM
I had every intention of being done with pics until the bow was packed up and shipping out, but now that the first few coats of finish have dried and I got to see it assembled, I am really pleased and wanted to share. Mind you, it's still an amateur job, but I like it. I do wish the curl in the overlays was more prominent but you can at least make it out.

Now I have to start shooting it to make sure it don't spontaneously disassemble.


  (http://i.imgur.com/F8QO0CS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/F8QO0CS)

  (http://i.imgur.com/5zLiEzF.jpg) (https://imgur.com/5zLiEzF)

  (http://i.imgur.com/FII2Jm0.jpg) (https://imgur.com/FII2Jm0)

  (http://i.imgur.com/vNni4Ls.jpg) (https://imgur.com/vNni4Ls)

  (http://i.imgur.com/x8oaaM1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/x8oaaM1)

  (http://i.imgur.com/z8vLWAw.jpg) (https://imgur.com/z8vLWAw)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 03, 2018, 08:35:00 PM
Looks perty nice Lonnie!

My trade bow looks crappy now, filled the wenge twice with epoxy/acetone mix. . . .

The Tbird is looking better!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 03, 2018, 08:36:00 PM
Lonnie, that is very nice..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 03, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Looking purty sweet there Lonny...  Nice touch how you rounded off your tips on the belly side...  I think I may start doing that...  Plus a while back a friend mentioned if the tip of your limb hits something while shooting , it will prevent it from delaming...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 04, 2018, 05:48:00 AM
Thanks guys.

 
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:

...filled the wenge twice with epoxy/acetone mix. . . .

I tried that once when I had a had a hole I needed to fill. Maybe it was the brand/type of epoxy but it ended being a very pliable rubber like substance when it cured.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 04, 2018, 12:21:00 PM
Cool! Maybe the victim will like a grippy grip!!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 04, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
Just a few more coats of truoil and the Viking bow will be done. Just got give the ink a day or two to dry first. It’s got one coat of try oil on top of a rubbed in coat of linseed right now. I plan on 6-10 more coats of tru oil. I left out the signatures from the picture. But I marked the center point on te back with the horns of Odinand the belly side with the Jumis symbol. Then My little raccoon under all of it. Once it’s dry I’ll shoot it a bit more then send it on it’s way.
 https://i.imgur.com/VkDeKEl.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/tn8pqm8.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/HDGTajJ.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/s5zXdHO.jpg
 https://i.imgur.com/7GBKYnf.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 04, 2018, 09:34:00 PM
This is the design I decided on for my riser. Although straight in the picture the accents will be radiused in the riser. I'm about to lose my patience waiting on my new bandsaw blades to come in the mail so I can get started on this thing.  (https://s19.postimg.org/mss5bdpdb/IMG_5233.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mss5bdpdb/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:45:00 PM
Nearly done.  61#@28" 62" NTN. Tiger wood and lacewood.  Maple core.  Just needs clear coat.  This pic is the riser under super glue.

 (http://i.imgur.com/z2w1s5a.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:46:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Be2allL.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:47:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/k75L6Zm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:48:00 PM
Tip overlays are black phenolic and water buffalo horn.

 (http://i.imgur.com/Dj49SxV.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:49:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rYrvYpG.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
Rough shaping the riser.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:51:00 PM
[img]http://i.imgur.com/l6JpRPF.jpg[/img
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
Ugh.  Let me try again.....

 (http://i.imgur.com/l6JpRPF.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 04, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
Hopefully, I'll be able to shoot it with clear this week after work.  Then I'll get her shipped out to my victim, Mr. X.  Somewhere back east...   ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 05, 2018, 05:01:00 AM
Those bows look great, good job mo and CJ!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 05, 2018, 09:45:00 AM
Whoa, some great work since Friday.  
Lonnie, the bow came out nice. Good job on the finish.  
Kyle, you have some talent with those staves, good work.  
Craig, those colors are stunning.

   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 06, 2018, 05:33:00 PM
Ordered a kit of Smooth On today.  Let's see if they can actually ship it to my APO address lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 06, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Got some sealer on her today,now let it cure good and sand again to see if the dang wenge is sealed up now........

 (http://i.imgur.com/dt9ISYM.jpg)

  (http://i.imgur.com/hHMiTKn.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hHMiTKn)

 (http://i.imgur.com/KEs1DIc.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/lm8VTIR.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 06, 2018, 06:07:00 PM
Hey I feel left out...  Maybe I should have took my time with this and stretched it out a bit...  Does anyone else need a bow???      :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 06, 2018, 06:11:00 PM
NEED?.... Is it ever really a need?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on March 06, 2018, 06:16:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
NEED?.... Is it ever really a need?
LOL!

Looking nice Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 06, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Ok, I am putting the finish on my victims bow but I decided to shoot a few through it in between coats. Just the break the lull around here I thought I would record one shot for posterity and share it with y'all.

 https://youtu.be/c134veCv3YQ
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Trenton G. on March 06, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
I love this thread! You guys are creating some incredible looking bows!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 06, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
Looking Great Kenny... I am guessing that is wenge...

   Looks like its bending pretty good to me, Lonny... Nice shot also...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 07, 2018, 02:26:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
NEED?.... Is it ever really a need?
The answer is always yes when the wife asks     :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2018, 05:39:00 AM
Nice Kenny.

LOL evildog..  I always say, Yes Dear..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 07, 2018, 06:54:00 AM
Nice looking bows , very nice Kenny , Lonnie that bow shoots great, I liked your vid !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 07, 2018, 07:01:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Yellowwood:
Nice looking bows , very nice Kenny , Lonnie that bow shoots great, I liked your vid !
Thanks, I was hoping people don't think I really talk like that.... all the time anyway
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 07, 2018, 07:12:00 AM
I did
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2018, 07:25:00 AM
Me too..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 07, 2018, 07:53:00 AM
I was expected some slurring and maybe a little drooling.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 08:19:00 AM
Looks great Kenny!

Your Kung Fu is strong!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 08:24:00 AM
I have my victim's bow done.  Just have to put a rest on it, package it, and ship it.

I'll get some pics up tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 07, 2018, 08:26:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bvas:
I was expected some slurring and maybe a little drooling.    :biglaugh:  
Those are definitely not unreasonable expectations.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 07, 2018, 09:32:00 AM
Those are definitely not unreasonable expectations.

Say it isn't so.. LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
Ok, I got her done!  I hope my victim likes it!

 (http://i.imgur.com/Su2Vefa.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:51:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GamGoP9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:52:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3g6024T.jpg)

Had to hide the victim's name with my finger.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/bEa56D3.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:54:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/B52ky55.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:54:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/o8jnJCj.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:55:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EiiFygM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/5ESgnEK.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:57:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UQc8jYu.jpg)

Test firing.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 10:58:00 PM
This thing is a beast!

 (http://i.imgur.com/k8qI5on.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 07, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
I've never actually shipped a bow before.  All of mine have gone to local people.  I built a good, hell-for-stout crate.  If the bow doesn't make it intact, it's only because God didn't want it to get there.    ;)
 (http://i.imgur.com/unp86FN.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 08, 2018, 02:09:00 AM
Nice job Craig, the bow looks amazing!  That's also one hell of a crate  :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 08, 2018, 05:57:00 AM
Very nice Craig, If your victim don't like it, just have them give me a shout...    :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Woodpuppy on March 08, 2018, 06:28:00 AM
Did you glue the lid down too for good measure
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 08, 2018, 06:46:00 AM
Heck Craig your guy gets a bow & a new hot box , thats a beautiful bow !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 08, 2018, 08:15:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Woodpuppy:
Did you glue the lid down too for good measure
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 08, 2018, 09:41:00 AM
That bow is awesome Craig...and dead accurate at 3 yards...LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 08, 2018, 11:19:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by BMorv:
That bow is awesome Craig...and dead accurate at 3 yards...LOL
Aw, come on man!  It was at least 4 yards!    :D
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on March 08, 2018, 01:10:00 PM
Really nice looking bow Craig.  Someone will be pleased!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 08, 2018, 01:45:00 PM
Aw, come on man! It was at least 4 yards!  
And down hill...     :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on March 08, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
Wow that is a beauty! I am feeling a bit insecure in my build! These are amazing! Good work everyone.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 08, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
Great looking bow , Bruddah..!!!  Nice crate too...  We should all make crates like that and we could reuse them every year...  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 08, 2018, 05:22:00 PM
One last thing to do and I’ll be ready to ship. This style of bow does live up to its reputation. A little bit thumpy, and not that quick. But does seem to do decently with a heavy arrow to calm it down without losing much speed in the process. Once you hit a 27” draw it smooths out quite a bit too, I can’t hit 28” so I can’t comment there. I put several dozen arrows through the chronograph to get a good idea of performance of this style of bow. I was underdrawing as my normal draw is 26” and me stretching can touch 27” without going to a warbow draw and jumping to 30”. I used 625g arrows, so about 12.5 gpp is I reached the full 28” draw. When I would stretch to about 27” I would get a consistent 136-138fps and at 26” I would get 128-131fps. So I would expect a touch over 140fps wth a full 28” draw. Which it was pulled to many times in the tree. With a 450gr arrow I would get 141-145fpa from my 26” draw. So not much speed difference for almost 200gr of arrow weight. I’m liking the Bluetooth hookup with the Caldwell chronograph as I can snapshot and upload actual speed numbers.

 https://i.imgur.com/AJcUY6j.png

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 08, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Kyle, those are good numbers for a selfie with that heavy an arrow and not a 28" draw.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 08, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
Well, Victim, your bow is on it's way....

BWWAAAHAHAHA!!!!! (evil, maniacal laughter)

Surprisingly, it cost less than $40 to ship from Colorado Springs to, well, somewhere back east...    ;)

The story behind the crate is that I couldn't find any kind of shipping carton, ready made, large enough to ship a recurve.  Being a plumber by trade, my first inclination was to use a piece of PVC pipe.  SDR 35.  Unfortunately, it would have needed to be better than 10" in diameter.

That would have been ridiculously heavy and expensive.

So, I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 1/4" underlayment plywood for $15 bucks and made my own.  Used some 2 X 3 studs I ripped in half lengthwise for the sides.  I already had the screws and wood glue, so it only cost me about $20 bucks.  Probably not cost effective for volume production, but I have enough material left over for a second crate.  Not too bad really.

Where I got a little butt hurt was the $20 for a roll of bubble wrap.  I had it in my head that would be cheap.

I guess my problem is that I'm old enough to remember what stuff used to cost.     ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 09, 2018, 02:19:00 AM
The last step after shooting and wearing a spot in the finish, was to use a triangle file to cut shallow grooves and super glue in some ground charcoal powder. The arrow goes between the lines and your middle finger goes over the symbol on the back. The charcoal embedded lines should last much longer to the scuffing of passing arrows than if I just inked them on. A couple spots of finish over it all and it’ll be ready to send.

 https://i.imgur.com/jQOzuPI.jpg

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 09, 2018, 09:36:00 AM
Well I got tired of always having the excuse that I don't have time to work on my bow today, so when the wife and newborn went to bed at 9pm I headed straight for the garage.  Worked till 1am and got her glued up....
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/nOXHa1u] [img]http://i.imgur.com/nOXHa1u.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]  
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/zZknuxz] [img]http://i.imgur.com/zZknuxz.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 09, 2018, 10:19:00 AM
That's dedication BMorv!    :)

My wife says I go out to my shop only to be abducted by aliens.  It's the only rational explanation for the missing time.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2018, 10:21:00 AM
Nice, Benton..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 09, 2018, 10:33:00 AM
That sure seems to be a lot of clamps, maybe it wouldn't sag in the middle so much if you didn't use so many??   :help:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 09, 2018, 11:04:00 AM
It's only about 45 clamps...   :)   .  What can I say, I don't like gaps in my glue line.
I move the form with it clamped into a closet with a heater to cure, and it must weigh 60 lbs with all those clamps...haha.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 09, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
Ok, last pic of my swap bow, I promise....     :saywhat:


  (http://i.imgur.com/TEQ4P6n.jpg) (https://imgur.com/TEQ4P6n)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 09, 2018, 02:20:00 PM
Very nice, Lonnie.. Love the white limbs..   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on March 09, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
Ok, I'm tracking 2 in the mail now -- keep your eyes open.

Additionally there is one about to ship that I've given the ok for and another that is ready and just waiting on the recipient to complete his bow. No pressure or anything...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 09, 2018, 04:07:00 PM
Looks like everyone's making good progress but me. Got tired of waiting on my bandsaw blades to come in the mail so I ordered a couple more yesterday from another site online. Maybe they'll be here next week! I'm ready to get this thing glued up!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 09, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
I'm close to getting started.  Have two bows to complete and ship first.

It'll be ground up including the form.  A little nervous about stack cause my victim's range is very narrow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 09, 2018, 07:00:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
I'm close to getting started.  Have two bows to complete and ship first.

It'll be ground up including the form.  A little nervous about stack cause my victim's range is very narrow!
Not that I am expecting to be your victim, but I did list a narrow margin as well, so if needed by whomever, take mine 5 lbs. either direction if needed.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 09, 2018, 07:43:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by skeaterbait:
 
Quote
Originally posted by monterey:
I'm close to getting started.  Have two bows to complete and ship first.

It'll be ground up including the form.  A little nervous about stack cause my victim's range is very narrow!
Not that I am expecting to be your victim, but I did list a narrow margin as well, so if needed by whomever, take mine 5 lbs. either direction if needed. [/b]
Same here.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 10, 2018, 04:47:00 AM
Just waiting for my Smooth On to get here so I can continue my work.  I have the form made, and the veneers and lams skived waiting for glue up.  Just stuck on the riser at the moment since it needs to be bonded together.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 11, 2018, 01:25:00 PM
Lots of progress being made by everyone.  I was starting to feel like a slacker, but I got my victim's bow glued up this weekend and rough shaped.

It will be a mild r/d, black glass, curly maple riser, and walnut/maple lams.  Going for clean and simple on this one.  The weight should come in perfect for the recipient.

  (http://i.imgur.com/4mcX4r1.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/4mcX4r1)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 11, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
Looking good!

I really like curly maple.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 11, 2018, 02:15:00 PM
That’s going to look great once the finish touches it.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2018, 02:18:00 PM
Nice John, I love curly maple risers..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Scifres on March 11, 2018, 02:34:00 PM
I started on my bow.  It's an osage selfbow, 66" long, 1-1/4" wide.  Probably going to be rounded belly.  

I don't have the energy to do the dance to get photos on here so if you would like to see them, you can go to the Selfbow Nation group page on Facebook.  You shouldn't have to have a facebook account to look at them.    Selfbow Nation (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2024458627829173/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 11, 2018, 05:54:00 PM
She is pretty much done, but got a couple coats of matte to go on her yet......

It is fairly close to 122# @ 40" that the poor victim asked for...   :laughing:  


 (http://i.imgur.com/tfn0lsn.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/v2Cr04C.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/Laty0zC.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 11, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
That's a sweet looker Kenny  beautiful !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 11, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
Pssst, hey Kenny, your arrow fell off.

That's downright perty.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 11, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
Thanks Ritchie!

Lonnie, this thing is so fast the arrow is gone before you can hit anchor . LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 11, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
Cool way to frame the flag.  

Nice bow.  there's a lucky recipient out there!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 11, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
Looking good Kenny! Uh.....the bow that is!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: bow loving man on March 11, 2018, 07:04:00 PM
Nice work Kenny! Gotta love that west wind!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 11, 2018, 07:46:00 PM
122# @ 40" - I'm a good sized Dude and can handle that.

Arrow gone before you can hit anchor - That will mesh well with my quick Hill Style shooting.

I know you have my address Kenny, so I'm looking forward to seeing it on my door step some evening when I get home from work.   ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 11, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
Thanks guys, it may be my best effort ever on a bow.

I got the flag in there cause it got blocked by the bow last time.

John, that weight is estimated , I need Roy to pull it  on the scale  for me....  :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 11, 2018, 08:10:00 PM
I can pull 122#.

Nice bow, Kenny

I just love the flag in the background...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 11, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
That was a lucky shot on the flag !!   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on March 11, 2018, 08:36:00 PM
Nice progress being made here!

Lonnie - looks like you forgot to include the riser!    :scared:

Looks sharp Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 11, 2018, 09:17:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mwosborn:


Lonnie - looks like you forgot to include the riser!     :scared:  

 
The limbs are held in place with "The Force"
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Crittergetter on March 11, 2018, 09:33:00 PM
Very nice guys!!
Outstanding job Kenny!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 11, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
I really admire your work Kenny.  That bow looks great.

Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if it were to make it's way here to Colorado....     ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on March 11, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
jsweka, Curly maple and black glass is gonna be a great combo, can't wait to see finished pics!

Kenny, that's a looker! Bet it shoots good too.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 12, 2018, 06:42:00 PM
Starting on my swap bow this past weekend must have been good karma because today I got a great big crate in the mail.

Yes fellas, I am now the proud owner of that dandy that Craig Johnson built!!!!

Craig - You sir, are a true craftsman! Dang, this thing is nice.  Your attention to detail is incredible and I must say you make me feel inferior as a bowyer.

I unboxed it and immediately went outside to test it out.  It sure blows away the straight and mild r/d longbows I make.  I felt like I was back shooting a compound again.  

The only downside is that I am in need of some stiffer spined arrows.  All the arrows I have are spined to shoot out of my straight longbows that are nowhere near centershot, so they flew a bit wonky out of this bow.  I already have a call into Gary Hall for some and I sent him a couple pics of the bow so he can do some fancy fletching to match.  I already know this thing is a speed demon, and I can't wait to get some properly spined arrows to really appreciate it's full performance.

Here's some pics.  

   (http://i.imgur.com/1hObW7x.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/1hObW7x)

   (http://i.imgur.com/YjcGbyy.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/YjcGbyy)

   (http://i.imgur.com/VuvrRwf.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/VuvrRwf)

Craig - Thank you so much for this gift.  You really put forth a great effort on this bow and I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 12, 2018, 09:05:00 PM
John,

You're very welcome sir!

I cannot express how much it means to me that you are pleased with it!

It was a real pleasure to build and I enjoyed participating in the swap so much.  I'm already looking forward to doing it again next year.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 12, 2018, 09:06:00 PM
Cool!! I thought you had Roy hangin on the fence for a second.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 12, 2018, 09:27:00 PM
Finally got my bandsaw blade today and got the radius cut into my riser block.  I'll do a little fine sanding to smooth it up and get it glued up tomorrow.  (https://s19.postimg.org/be6skm3yn/IMG_5249.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/be6skm3yn/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 12, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
Well I guess I'm not copying the correct code to get a full sized image
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 12, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Very nice lines on that bow. Johnson...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 14, 2018, 10:19:00 AM
Got her cleaned up and the riser glued on.  Shouldn't be much longer...
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/rJr5Fbl] [img]http://i.imgur.com/rJr5Fbl.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http:// [url=https://imgur.com/7JIGhI8] [img]http://i.imgur.com/7JIGhI8.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 14, 2018, 05:47:00 PM
The Smooth On finally came in today, no more work-stoppages for me!  Immediately went out and laid up the riser.

  (http://i.imgur.com/1tS3Uv0.jpg) (https://imgur.com/1tS3Uv0)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on March 14, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
My progress for the last couple months...

Made a fatal error on my first attempt.  Wasn't thinking very well & tried to flip the tips AFTER laminating.  The heat separated the laminations.  So I put it aside to chop it down & give it to my son.  It was maple-backed walnut (trapped back).  It will be pretty but too short for my victim to draw back 28".

Changed gears on the design & put in some Perry reflex on a maple-backed maple.  While it was gluing up, I realized that I didn't have enough clamps for such a design.  Went ahead & let it dry & floor tillered it.  Cut some nocks in & pulled it to brace 50-60 times with no issues.  Went to put a string on it & "BAM!" it blew.  Got my hand whacked pretty good.  Post mortem indicates that the section that broke wasn't laminated (needed those clamps).  Back to the drawing board.

Simple, straight glue up this time.  No added reflex on hickory-backed walnut.  Used 2x lumber to sandwich the pieces together with more even compression as it dried. Now it's floor tillered.  Hoping to cut some nocks in next week & put it on the tree.  A trapped hickory backing on walnut makes a nice color contrast.

And if that doesn't work, I'll opt for a rawhide-backed hickory board.

Got permission to hunt some private land for turkey season, which starts in a couple weeks.  Saw droppings all over the place when I was there a few weeks ago.  I'm hoping for a shorter season this year so I can get this bow done & shipped in time.  Project keeps getting longer with these rookie errors.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on March 14, 2018, 09:43:00 PM
Well, in past years if I was getting underway in March I'd be pretty proud of myself. But this year, y'all are making me feel like I've never been farther behind!

Tonight I finished laying out my design and cut and faired my router template for my new form. Then I realized I didn't have the right glass on hand so had to send Kenny a quick email to set things right again. Have most of the day off on Friday, so hoping to finish up the form and cut some lams before being tied up for the weekend.

As this is a completely new design for me, I'm doubting I'll hit weight on the first try. But I think I have a home or two for the practice bows. In the meantime, maybe I can figure out how to make my bows less Plain Jane after everything that's been posted. Competition is tough this year!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 15, 2018, 09:24:00 AM
Sorry for your luck Yosemite.  Have you considered using the bike tire inter tube method?  It's a good option when doing a single lamination and is inexpensive.  That would be my go to if I didn't have enough clamps.
*Edit- just re read your post and realized you already have your current bow glued up.  Hope it works out.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Malone on March 15, 2018, 09:30:00 AM
And leave the bottom lam a lil wider. Two bamboo tooth picks in the handle help to. Ive done it before.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on March 15, 2018, 12:19:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BMorv:
Sorry for your luck Yosemite.  Have you considered using the bike tire inter tube method?  It's a good option when doing a single lamination and is inexpensive.  That would be my go to if I didn't have enough clamps.
*Edit- just re read your post and realized you already have your current bow glued up.  Hope it works out.
The innertube idea still needs some sort of form to set it in, right?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 15, 2018, 12:39:00 PM
Nope.  I just mean wrapping the lamination tightly with the intertube.  I'll send you a PM.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 15, 2018, 04:54:00 PM
Riser cleaned up and cut to size.  Every step of this is incredibly stressful since its my first time making a laminate haha.

  (http://i.imgur.com/DOrLKh1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DOrLKh1)

  (http://i.imgur.com/O0iQlCs.jpg) (https://imgur.com/O0iQlCs)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 15, 2018, 05:08:00 PM
I feel your stress Chris.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 15, 2018, 06:56:00 PM
I got nuthin to report, been roofing a house that looks like a Bass Pro store!! Roof is 18/12 pitch.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Malone on March 15, 2018, 08:18:00 PM
18/12, youre braver than I am Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2018, 08:43:00 PM
Ha John..

Ya ever see his face close up?

LOL

  (http://i.imgur.com/hXqvl1j.jpg) (https://imgur.com/hXqvl1j)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2018, 08:45:00 PM
Chris that is sharp as heck..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 15, 2018, 11:10:00 PM
Hey Chris...  I feel Yah Bro...  At least you got this crazy bunch for support...  back in the day when I made my first bow and was not on any forum the limb had a slight twist at brace...  I spent hours trying to figure out which side to sand to straighten it out...  Talk about stress...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 16, 2018, 12:39:00 PM
Thanks for the encouragement guys!  I will be shaping it Saturday at the wood shop, any tips on making the bandsaw cuts before I dive into this? I am planning on borrowing Kenny's riser design for this one, and will be running the 0.100" maple lam with a 0.002" taper up the ramps.  Think that's too drastic of a curve?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on March 16, 2018, 12:49:00 PM
I think you can do it. I would make a clamp to hold riser in place while you get the lams pushed down into the curves of ramps. I also glue a little block with beveled ends to flat on riser block  on belly to push the lams and belly glass against (with CA). It doesn't have to be full width of lams and riser, it's just a stop that grinds off later. Make sure it isn't thicker than lams and glass if you use it.

Oh, do a dry run to be sure all works right before you put the slickery glue to it!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 16, 2018, 04:34:00 PM
Just dropped off a white pipe at the post office. It says 2 day shipping, so it should be there by Wednesday. Seems like those 2 or 3 days are a, they’ll be that at quickest.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 16, 2018, 06:55:00 PM
Just glued up my riser a little bit ago. Note to self, if I make another bow oven, make it a little wider! Like to have not gotten my riser in my oven because of the clamps.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 16, 2018, 06:59:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dannon:
Like to have not gotten my riser in my oven because of the clamps.
I feel your pain. Mine needs to be 2” taller. If I don’t use the right bar clamps I can’t get my bows in mine.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 16, 2018, 10:33:00 PM
Just put it in the kitchen oven.   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 17, 2018, 10:41:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kennym:
I got nuthin to report, been roofing a house that looks like a Bass Pro store!! Roof is 18/12 pitch.....
Uff da!  18/12 pitch? No thanks!

That's why I'm a plumber!   ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Sacred mt on March 17, 2018, 03:49:00 PM
Checking in...got an osage stave and will start chasing a ring before long.

Progress Threads is way too COOL; SKEATERBAIT out did himself. Now I have to fling some arrows.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 17, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
Got the riser cut out today.  Man am I glad that part is over!  The grain lines make it look a little wonky but it's relatively symmetrical    :D  

  (http://i.imgur.com/SQZVYG6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/SQZVYG6)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 17, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
Looks symmetrical to me.  Very nice!

I've made good progress on my bow, but I realized I'm out of 220 and 320 grit sandpaper.  Off to the local Lowes for me tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 17, 2018, 06:39:00 PM
Looks nice Evildog I'm doing the same riser on thursday , how did you do yours, I made a templet & going to use a shaper ?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 17, 2018, 06:57:00 PM
I made a template but was unsure if it would work since I made it with no lams on the form.  I used 1" masking tape to hold the lams on the form and then clamped the riser block to the back of the form (used a level to keep it parallel) and traced the outline onto the face.  After that I took it to the band saw, cut it out, and cleaned it up with the spindle sander (5" drum).

Has anyone ever used a jointer to clean up the back face of a riser block?  Kind of wish I would have done it that way but not sure it's possible due to the curves.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on March 17, 2018, 07:23:00 PM
I made a tracing off the print  then made the templet  off of that but  it still has to much of a center gap on the form so Im tracing the form this time and making another templete then I will do the finale fit by hand with the lams in place , I bought this templet shaper bit for my drill press.  https://imgur.com/gallery/I8Ezf
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 17, 2018, 07:30:00 PM
Looks like that should work out nice.  Something about the spindle sander at the wood shop here isn't quite right, anything sanded on that thing loses squareness but i'm not too sure why.  Maybe it's the rubber on the spindles that does it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 17, 2018, 08:44:00 PM
Ok guys I'm not sure but I may have ran into a problem. I cut the belly lams and veneers to length and the right side lams and veneers are about an inch longer than the left side. Is that going to be a problem?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 17, 2018, 09:18:00 PM
What are you building?
And are either of them tapers?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 17, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
Depends on your situation...  I cut my lams a good 1 1/2" over of what I need...  If you did the same you will be fine...  But if you only gave yourself a half inch of play, it sounds like you have got yourself a shorter bow...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 17, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
I cut them an inch longer but I thought they'd still be the same length
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 17, 2018, 09:34:00 PM
Has anyone ever used a jointer to clean up the back face of a riser block? Kind of wish I would have done it that way but not sure it's possible due to the curves.
If you mean jointing a riser block that is already tapered, I'd say don't do it. You would be cutting uphill on thin stock and it will explode and hurt you.
I hope I misunderstood your question.
Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 17, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Im confused.
So are the lams different lengths, or do they layout on the form differently?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 17, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
I'm building a 60" bow so I cut my lams and glass about an inch longer for the back of the bow. I laid out my bow on the form to test the riser fit and to cut my belly lams to length. I cut the first side and thought I'd just use the first on as a guide to cut the rest to length, but something told me to lay it down on the other side of the bow and it turned out to be about an inch longer.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 17, 2018, 10:59:00 PM
Didn't get much done today. Been helping my little brother with a kitchen remodel. However I did get the riser cut out and and run a dry run this evening. Had one little place on the belly ramps were I could see the light from a flashlight on the opposite side. I'll put some shims in that spot to fix that. I think I'm ready to slap some glue on it.
  (https://s19.postimg.org/73euqnbab/IMG_5260.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mc4s4f4yn/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 17, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
Ok you guys that use postimage. Which link am I supposed to be copying to my images aren't so small?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 18, 2018, 06:31:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by wood carver 2:
If you mean jointing a riser block that is already tapered, I'd say don't do it. You would be cutting uphill on thin stock and it will explode and hurt you.
I hope I misunderstood your question.
Dave.
I meant with just the one side that matches the back of the bow cut out.  The other side would still be solid stock because the fades wouldn't be cut out yet.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 18, 2018, 06:49:00 AM
I just checked tracking and it looks like the white tube should be in someone’s doorstep Monday.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 18, 2018, 10:03:00 AM
Hey Dannon...  Do you have a pic of your ramps???
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 18, 2018, 11:30:00 AM
I got you now, but it's still not a good idea. As you start planing, you will be planing uphill against the grain on the curved section and there is a likelihood that it will tear out. If the cut is deep enough it could be nasty.
 You could start in the middle and work towards each end, but I'm not not keen on doing that either.
If it was me, I would cut out the curve and sand it, then plane the sides square to it.
Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 18, 2018, 01:47:00 PM
I finished sanding and got the first coat of finish on my swap bow today.

I went for simple classiness in this bow with the curly maple riser and black glass.  The limb cores are walnut with center lam of maple for contrast.  I like the way this one turned out and I'm tempted to make one just like it for myself.

Here's a couple pics.  The maple looks better in person than what the pics show in my dark and dingy basement.

  (http://i.imgur.com/Tbdq2J5.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/Tbdq2J5)

  (http://i.imgur.com/DJ1Dx8n.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/DJ1Dx8n)

  (http://i.imgur.com/sarLTp2.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/sarLTp2)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 18, 2018, 01:57:00 PM
That's a very good looking longbow.  Can you give us some specs?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 18, 2018, 02:01:00 PM
Monterey - It's my mild r/d model which comes off a form that was copied from a Great Northern Critter Gitter.  The riser is 16" and I use 0.004 total taper in the lams.  1 1/4" wide at the fade out and 1/2" at the nocks.

Right now I can't give you the stack thickness because I don't want you guys doing some kind of calculation to see if it's within your desired draw weight range       ;)   (Although, Kenny would know since I got the lams from him.)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 18, 2018, 02:03:00 PM
Shredd, here's a pic of the riser after some sanding.
  (https://s19.postimg.org/x8sbnwq4v/IMG_5259.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/x8sbnwq4v/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 18, 2018, 02:19:00 PM
Heh heh.  It's nice to know that im not the only devious player.    :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 18, 2018, 02:52:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jsweka:
Monterey - It's my mild r/d model which comes off a form that was copied from a Great Northern Critter Gitter.  The riser is 16" and I use 0.004 total taper in the lams.  1 1/4" wide at the fade out and 1/2" at the nocks.

Right now I can't give you the stack thickness because I don't want you guys doing some kind of calculation to see if it's within your desired draw weight range        ;)    (Although, Kenny would know since I got the lams from him.)
That’s cute, he thinks I can do math.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: on March 18, 2018, 08:22:00 PM
Hey Dannon...  It could be the picture but the left side of that riser looks a little inconsistent...  My guess is that you are seeing light through the lam and riser on that side at the top of the ramp...  I would put a nice curved line on it and sand to the line...  Nice even strokes...  If you want those lams to lay down easy I would also sand it flat for about 1" at the top of the ramp...  The flat has to blend in nicely to the curve though... Works like a charm... Good luck...

   Classic looking riser there JS...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 18, 2018, 08:40:00 PM
Hey Shredd, it is the pic I noticed that inconsistency also. I've looked at my riser and it's pretty uniform with a nice even curve. Here's the funny part, I payed everything back down on the table and there's actually not that much difference in the length of the belly lams. My only excuse is I guess I been sniffing too much glue here lately!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on March 18, 2018, 09:28:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jsweka:
Monterey - It's my mild r/d model which comes off a form that was copied from a Great Northern Critter Gitter.  The riser is 16" and I use 0.004 total taper in the lams.  1 1/4" wide at the fade out and 1/2" at the nocks.

Right now I can't give you the stack thickness because I don't want you guys doing some kind of calculation to see if it's within your desired draw weight range        ;)    (Although, Kenny would know since I got the lams from him.)
I like the lines of that riser a lot.  Clean, simple. and very well executed.  Love the curly maple too.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on March 26, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Here ya go skeater
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 26, 2018, 06:32:52 PM
Well looky there!!!!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on March 26, 2018, 06:37:25 PM
Well let's get this started. I have to be officially removed from the "Victim" list, my bow is incredible. I'm going to have to build me a ship and go plunder and pillage now.

Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 26, 2018, 07:57:43 PM
Well got my swap bow in the oven! Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 27, 2018, 03:12:17 AM
Got the bow cured and off the form.  The slippage cost me some glue lines at the fades, will get some pictures up once I get home and have the bow cleaned up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 27, 2018, 04:18:25 AM
For posterity!

(http://i.imgur.com/53u9NR6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/53u9NR6)

(http://i.imgur.com/mlUV9Zt.jpg) (https://imgur.com/mlUV9Zt)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 27, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
Alright, got her all demasked and cleaned up.  Other than the glue lines around the fade it looks pretty good.  Also, due to the slippage, should I adjust my trim lines on both ends to account for that or just trim on the original lines?  I left the ends 2" long in case something like this happened.  Take a look and let me know if you guys think this is still serviceable or if I need to start over.  I don't want to build a bow that will fail after little use.

(http://i.imgur.com/u9nyqqx.jpg) (https://imgur.com/u9nyqqx)

(http://i.imgur.com/iYQwbfR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/iYQwbfR)

(http://i.imgur.com/tM4IhCj.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tM4IhCj)

(http://i.imgur.com/0dJrHFg.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0dJrHFg)

(http://i.imgur.com/s1XBudU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/s1XBudU)

(http://i.imgur.com/G9GEQ7T.jpg) (https://imgur.com/G9GEQ7T)

(http://i.imgur.com/9L1hmPG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/9L1hmPG)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on March 27, 2018, 02:58:37 PM
as long as there isn't glue gaps the thick glue lines are going to be cosmetic only. Remember that is your fade so the end is just barely going to be moving anyway. once you get 1/4-1/2" back from the end of the fade, nothing is moving. I don't think you have anything to worry about structurally. nice looking piece
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 27, 2018, 05:38:23 PM
as long as there isn't glue gaps the thick glue lines are going to be cosmetic only. Remember that is your fade so the end is just barely going to be moving anyway. once you get 1/4-1/2" back from the end of the fade, nothing is moving. I don't think you have anything to worry about structurally. nice looking piece

Good to hear, I was feeling a little disheartened about the situation.  Thank you.  Any suggestions on the trimming?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 27, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
Since my pics of the finished product were deleted with the Trad Gang transfer, here they are again.  My victim should have his new bow by this weekend.

(http://i.imgur.com/iQZkOBN.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/iQZkOBN)

(http://i.imgur.com/GeHPIls.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/GeHPIls)

(http://i.imgur.com/d5Mzi0E.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/d5Mzi0E)

(http://i.imgur.com/Jm47Seo.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/Jm47Seo)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 28, 2018, 09:54:57 AM
Starting to look like a bow!
(https://s19.postimg.org/px40dy65f/IMG_5281.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nsjncv4in/)
(https://s19.postimg.org/507s9bq4z/IMG_5282.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pkcm7t5vz/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on March 28, 2018, 10:42:50 AM
Looks Great...  Did you get everything laying tight???
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 28, 2018, 10:47:12 AM
I did have one small spot on one of the ramps where there wasn't a real tight glue joint. I put shims in between my hose and pressure strip but I guess I didn't put them in the right position. I'm pretty confident it won't effect the bow since it's not in a working part of the limb. Just another lesson learned.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Scifres on March 28, 2018, 04:22:50 PM
Let's try this new-fangled picture thing out.





Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on March 28, 2018, 04:58:40 PM
Looks like a nice piece of osage John.  So what path around that knot did you choose?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 30, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
Glad you like it Lonnie. I hope I shoots and serves you well. It does real well with heavy arrows, for me it only gained about 12-15fps dropping from a 625gr to 425gr arrow. Which I think its the same speed with the 625gr arrow as my 68# at 27” black walnut English longbow. Though I was barely hitting 27” and it was tillered to 28”. Feel free to send me an honest critique. That’s what I look forward to to help me make future projects better.

Everything is looking good everyone. I don’t think I’ve seen one yet I would be disappointed to see show up on my doorstep.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on March 30, 2018, 04:46:23 PM
Welllll....  Looky, Looky here...   Looking forward to opening this Bad Boy up... 

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 30, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on March 30, 2018, 06:23:33 PM
Made up a blank for the swap bow form.  See, Dave, I'm working on it. :)

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on March 30, 2018, 09:14:32 PM
Got a string made for my swap bow and braced it up today. Limbs looked good and straight. Came out to a pretty much even tiller.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on March 31, 2018, 01:17:51 PM
Well...  I got to open up the package yesterday...  What a Beautiful slim and Elegant bow...   :thumbsup:  You are right, John...  I am glad that you did not put a leather grip on it...  The Maple is beautiful and I could stare at it all day watching it shimmer as I shift the riser... I also like how you did the tips...  A little too pointy for my taste but very aesthetically pleasing to the eye with nicely blended curves and beautifully shaped...  :clapper:   I only got a few shots through it as I had other things to do...  It seemed to be very quiet, had decent speed and was putting the arrows where I was aiming...  What more can you ask for??  Very, Very Pleased...   

   Raining Today...  I am sure I will be shooting it when the weather clears up...

   Well this Victim is pretty damn Stoked...   :shaka:  Many Thanks,John for taking the time and effort to create this Sweet Stick...  I will be calling you and we can talk a little shop...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on March 31, 2018, 01:59:05 PM
I'm glad you like it, Rich.  I bought that piece of maple from a gun stock wood dealer at a muzzleloader show back in early February.  I'm saving the other half of the piece for the next bow I build for myself.  I've built a number of bows with curly maple, but they always seem to end up in other people's hands.

Have fun with it!

Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 31, 2018, 04:16:22 PM
Oh man, it's trimmed and tillering out nicely!  Here it is at full brace for the first time and drawn to 18".  Clamp on the end is because I was nervous it would jump the nock.

(http://i.imgur.com/tYHhAqq.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tYHhAqq)

(http://i.imgur.com/tgIjquU.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tgIjquU)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 01, 2018, 06:11:35 AM
Please feel free to tell me if you see something wrong, feedback doesn't hurt my feelings.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on April 01, 2018, 06:25:58 AM
I don't have any comments on tiller but I'm still one step behind you & watching,  your bow looks nice , I ended up at 1 3/8 on width due to a riser issue so well see on weight !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on April 01, 2018, 11:53:15 AM
  See, Dave, I'm working on it. :)


Got it! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 02, 2018, 03:29:21 AM
this weekend i made some progress on bow limbs.
shaped and adjusted.
still some more work to be done on limbs.

when i am done with this one i will start building another.

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 02, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 03, 2018, 07:15:04 AM
Love the grain on that riser, Kenny..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 03, 2018, 07:54:17 AM
Wenge is beautiful and this one I filled with EA 40 and acetone mixed 50/50.  Usually the grain is very open  but this one went very easily. I've tried to fill with finish but that doesn't work as easily as this time...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on April 03, 2018, 07:58:06 AM
That riser is very cool 😎
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on April 03, 2018, 10:08:57 AM
Wenge is beautiful and this one I filled with EA 40 and acetone mixed 50/50.  Usually the grain is very open  but this one went very easily. I've tried to fill with finish but that doesn't work as easily as this time...
How did you apply the Ea40?
How long does it take to dry before sanding and finishing?

Been using CA, which works, but takes a lot of coats for deep pores.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mark R on April 03, 2018, 11:56:40 AM
Ken did you mix the ea40 1to1 and then the acetone to ea40 1to 1
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 03, 2018, 12:22:17 PM
Yep, roughly. LOL  Ea40 mixed 1/1 and then rough guess on acetone to make liquid enough to apply. Wiped on with fingers and a latex glove.  Let dry a day or 2 and sanded. Loved it!

CA works but makes my eyes feel like they have sand in em...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on April 03, 2018, 12:28:29 PM
CA works but makes my eyes feel like they have sand in em...

I know the feeling.
First time I tried doing it in the garage. I learned real quick to do it outside with a nice breeze.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on April 03, 2018, 12:54:08 PM


CA works but makes my eyes feel like they have sand in em...

It sure does.  I keep a small desk fan across the bench when I'm using CA to blow the fumes away.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 04, 2018, 10:53:35 PM
Worked on shaping the riser tonight. Still got some work to do around the shelf, but it starting to look like a bow.
(https://s19.postimg.org/81fd8evn7/IMG_5285.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ibhs7nlin/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 05, 2018, 06:48:57 AM
(https://s19.postimg.org/f1z86vepf/IMG_5287.png) (https://postimg.org/image/svnkvx7an/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 05, 2018, 08:28:45 AM
Lookin good !  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 05, 2018, 04:49:24 PM
Took it out to full draw tonight, looks like ill be shaping the handle and hopefully shooting it in Saturday!  Observations always welcome.

(http://i.imgur.com/HlaalNG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HlaalNG)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on April 05, 2018, 05:16:39 PM
Looking good Chris.
Don’t forget to take that clip off the tip before shooting in :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on April 05, 2018, 05:21:10 PM
Looks good Chris  :archer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 05, 2018, 05:24:12 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 05, 2018, 08:10:11 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 05, 2018, 09:59:30 PM
Looks like it's bending nicely.  What is the riser wood?

Got some work done on the trade bow form today.  Unfortunately it's going to rain in the "shop" tomorrow. :tongue:

My crappy router does a poor job of it but it's going to tune up ok..... I hope.


Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 05, 2018, 10:06:55 PM
Ya gotta hit those insert attachments, Mike..

Ya get a boo boo?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 05, 2018, 10:08:00 PM
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 05, 2018, 10:13:14 PM
I don't know what I was doing wrong there.  Double posted one picture and couldn't fix it so I edited them out and put them in a separate post.  Don't know what happened to the boo boo pic.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 06, 2018, 04:06:23 AM
What is the riser wood?

Riser wood is Santos Rosewood with a Maple accent.

Thanks everyone, I can't wait to get home and shape the handle for the Saturday 3D plink.  Perfect way to shoot it in!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 06, 2018, 04:04:16 PM
It's snowing here.  Seventy degrees yesterday and 28 with snow today.  So, I made a run to my local veneer guy and picked these up.  Three silky Australian walnut and one curly etimoe.

I'll probably incorporate some of this into the swap bow.  Any opinions on what which would look good with Myrtle?

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 06, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
Nice Mike...

I like the darker ones.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on April 06, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
You can never go wrong with curly!!!!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 06, 2018, 05:10:48 PM
I like the dark ones too.  My first thought was to make one for my self with the dark ones.  There's enough of both to make two.  It's a decision quandary. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 06, 2018, 05:32:55 PM
I think the darker ones would look pretty with a bubinga riser.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 06, 2018, 07:35:23 PM
Gotta allow some cred to Kenny.  He puts some nice combos together.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on April 06, 2018, 08:15:20 PM
Yep...  Aussie Walnut...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on April 07, 2018, 03:42:44 PM
looking great guys!i was trying to make a take down to go for something new....its just not in my favor lol ,so a one piece it is...sorry
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 07, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
Got the handle shaped up and sanded to 120 tonight.  My overlay materials also came in but I have to wait until Monday to pick them up once the Post Office opens.

(http://i.imgur.com/Qke1Znc.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Qke1Znc)

(http://i.imgur.com/yuorful.jpg) (https://imgur.com/yuorful)

(http://i.imgur.com/tdk3Usz.jpg) (https://imgur.com/tdk3Usz)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on April 07, 2018, 07:44:59 PM
Looks awsome Chris wow !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 07, 2018, 08:22:13 PM
Thanks Ritchie  :cheesy:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on April 07, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
Looks Great...!!!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on April 07, 2018, 09:01:09 PM
Very nice....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on April 07, 2018, 09:21:45 PM
Nice job Chris.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 07, 2018, 10:11:15 PM
Excellent job Chris!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on April 07, 2018, 10:25:12 PM
Perty
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on April 07, 2018, 11:06:34 PM
Nice.  It will pop with finish!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on April 07, 2018, 11:22:00 PM
That's a beauty Chris!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 08, 2018, 05:25:50 AM
Thanks everyone, the praise from you veterans means a lot to this greenhorn!  I am really pleased with how it's turning out.  I wasn't feeling great about it after the slip issue, but glad I stuck with it instead of starting over.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on April 09, 2018, 12:59:41 PM
Worked on a nice-looking 65" hickory-backed walnut.  Was tillering out slowly and made it to 24".  Had just done some light scraping, put it back on the tree for 30 pulls and then a recheck with the tillering block.  Got my marks on it and then, "Tick... Tick... Tick-" I started backing away.  "Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-BAM!"

Post-mortem shows that my lamination was just fine.  I just think it was too much draw weight for that light wood.  I don't think HD walnut is as good as a stave.  Might do better at 70"+ and something closer to 35-40#.

Time is running out so I'm opting for a design & materials I've gotten to work several times in the past.  I've had fun experimenting.  Now it's time to get something done.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 11, 2018, 10:06:44 PM
Got some more sanding done on riser. Hope to get some limb tips glued on by the weekend and get some final sanding done. Ready to get this thing ready for some spray.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/ryfd58hpv/IMG_5297.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/rlnyz1zfz/)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/zeemr1kur/IMG_5298.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4k7dtbf7z/)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/6c0co7qv7/IMG_5299.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/t0pjns88v/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on April 12, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
Alright, I can't remember what may have been put up that I missed during the server change but right now I'm tracking the following:

19 participants
5 bows shipped and received
2 bows ready to ship
Therefore 37% complete.

We have just over 7 weeks until the first deadline (June 1st). It looks like most everyone has been posting updates and status so far. If you haven't written about your current progress in the last couple weeks, please update us. Pictures are preferred obviously!

As for me: the new form was finished a couple of weeks ago and with a little luck I plan to get mine glued up this weekend. I was waiting to finish making my profile jig for the riser since I have to make a couple of these if the design works out.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on April 12, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
My 2nd attempt with an experimental maple backing is going pretty good.  Only a couple more inches to go and some shooting in.  Hopefully it holds up, but I have a couple backups to my backup now if it doesn't  :goldtooth: 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 12, 2018, 12:49:54 PM
I have templates made and form for all practical purposes complete.  Placed an order with Kenny yesterday for materials including for the trade bow.  I'll start working on the riser meantime.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on April 12, 2018, 01:02:09 PM
Handle glued and almost done floor tillering yesterday.  Hoping to get the backing glued up before the weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 12, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Handle overlay is half-done, still need to do the tips.  I am leaving on a TDY for the next couple weeks and will get the shoot-in and finish done around 1 May when I return.  I'll have internet access and will be watching the progress of course!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 12, 2018, 09:35:52 PM
I have to spray a couple coats over the lettering and it will be ready to roll....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 12, 2018, 11:11:56 PM
Kenny, speaking of lettering, what did you use to get the nice gold letters.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 13, 2018, 10:08:47 PM
Mike , it is a Mitsubishi UM153 Signo uniball pigment ink pen. I have no idea how it will react when I spray finish on it, but it writes wonderfully and dried on the original finish, so hoping it don't run or something crazy.... .

Search that on the big auction site and they are really pretty cheap and free shipping but takes a bit to get here.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 14, 2018, 12:53:32 AM
Sounds good but I'm going to wait and see what happens when you hit it with some finish. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 16, 2018, 03:27:04 AM
here is update 1
long bow
handle
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limbs not glassed yet
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best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 16, 2018, 03:28:30 AM
update 2
recurve
limb
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other limb not casted.
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best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 16, 2018, 03:28:44 AM
update 3
asiatic
limb belly not glassed.

handle (probably for the sake of shipping i will cut it half to make take down.)


best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on April 16, 2018, 09:28:39 AM
Since my victim didn't want a 10 pc take down, it's on to plan C.  Had this bow shot in with over 100 arrows through it.  Shot great and was fast.  Held 2" of reflex.  Did some final sanding then wanted to check weight before I put a sealer on it, pulled it to full draw and boooom!  This thing just exploded.  I'm just happy it didn't blow when me or even worse my victim was shooting it. ...I have another one glued with one of these experimental maple lam backs, but I don't trust it after this failure.  My bamboo is finally in so I'll get started on another one.  Sorry to my victim, I thought I would be finished 2 months ago :dunno:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 16, 2018, 09:35:46 AM
sorry to see such a beauty blown up... :(
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: SportHunter on April 16, 2018, 12:29:01 PM
You'll probably have much better luck with the boo BMorv. At least you got your practice bows out of the way now.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 16, 2018, 12:58:55 PM
Ouch, Mr. Ben..

That sucks.

Put that Makake on the next one.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on April 16, 2018, 02:15:49 PM
Oh man I'm sorry to see that maybe the third will be the charm !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 16, 2018, 02:30:00 PM
(https://s19.postimg.cc/gkxxedd2b/IMG_5304.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/egdkdabfj/)
Got limb tips finished up and done some final sanding. I put a string on it at lunch today and put a few arrows through it. I need to round over the limb edges and do final sanding over the whole bow and put a finish on it. Getting close to complete. While I'm here is there anything I need to do to the bubinga to seal it before I spray the finish on it? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on April 16, 2018, 04:56:09 PM
With Bubinga or any other oily, tropical hardwood, it depends on what you're finishing with.

If you're spraying epoxy like Thunderbird for example, you don't need to do anything.  Same with catalyzing urethanes.

If you're using a varnish or conventional polyurethane, you'll want to seal the wood first.  A lot of guys like shellac for this.  I prefer to use superglue as a grain filler/sealer.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: goobersan on April 16, 2018, 04:58:32 PM
Lookin real good Dannon
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Post by: Dannon on April 16, 2018, 09:49:07 PM
(https://s19.postimg.cc/i1wvckkyr/IMG_5305.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lya78k5y7/)
I've heard of people liking the VHT but I couldn't find any in clear. Just curious if anyone has ever tried this stuff? I purchased a can of gloss and a can of mart.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on April 16, 2018, 09:53:28 PM
Ink - some nice looking bows there. What is the wood in the riser of the last pic?

Ben - Bummer. Most of us have been there. More than a few have been there more than once.

Well, I got my test bow in the oven tonight in the new form. This is the first time I've done risers with a pattern sanding jig. Dang, where has that been all my life!?! Things went well, I'm excited to pull it out tomorrow and hopefully see where weight landed before long. Then off to the clear glass and good veneers for the final bow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 16, 2018, 09:54:37 PM
YES!! TAKE IT BACK!!!

I put it om my bro's bow last year, gloss then flat . He said any touch to anything left a white mark on the bow.

I use 4 coats duplicolor in the red can on wood surfaces, don't worry too much about the glass. Automotive clearcoat.  Then I give it a coat or 3 of Duplicolor Wheel finish matte in the bigger black can on all surfaces.

No luck with the stuff in pic, bro scraped it off after season and refinished. I even told him it was under warranty.... :saywhat:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 16, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
Oh, the clearcoat dries on everything I've tried it on....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 16, 2018, 10:08:34 PM
Ok, thanks Kenny! I'll take it back and try the finish your talking about if I can find some.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 16, 2018, 10:12:01 PM
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This stuff Kenny?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 16, 2018, 11:08:11 PM
Yep and if you want less shine, the matte wheel finish in same brand,
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 17, 2018, 03:48:08 AM
hi all,

i just got out one limb for recurve from cast.
i did not make any cleaning yet.
it i seems epoxied well :D
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on April 17, 2018, 12:48:30 PM
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Post by: jdeitz10 on April 17, 2018, 12:49:12 PM
Disregard the wide flyer in the photo, shooter error!
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Post by: jdeitz10 on April 17, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on April 17, 2018, 10:11:01 PM
Nice bow Mr. Deitz

!

I pulled my test bow out of the oven today and roughed her out. I think for a new bow design, my weight is going to come in just fine. I have a neighbor who is having a birthday soon and is getting into archery. I think this one is going to be perfect for him. Now to pick the veneers for the fancy swap version!

(https://i.imgur.com/lquXLTK.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 18, 2018, 06:06:57 AM
Ink - some nice looking bows there. What is the wood in the riser of the last pic?

Ben - Bummer. Most of us have been there. More than a few have been there more than once.

Well, I got my test bow in the oven tonight in the new form. This is the first time I've done risers with a pattern sanding jig. Dang, where has that been all my life!?! Things went well, I'm excited to pull it out tomorrow and hopefully see where weight landed before long. Then off to the clear glass and good veneers for the final bow.

re: canopyboy... it is "multiple teak lams".
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on April 24, 2018, 09:50:18 AM
hi there...
some update..

with small sized handle and new started normal sized handle (just glued).

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started another recurve limbs with black glass.

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just handle fro long bow. i guess i will change the limbs that i have done already.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 26, 2018, 08:45:16 PM
(https://s19.postimg.cc/81xxjxhwj/IMG_5378.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/45klnxwwv/)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/v3eipo9ub/IMG_5379.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/r716tooun/)
Finished up my victims bow this afternoon. Been putting a few arrows through it. I may shoot it for another week before I mail it off.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on April 26, 2018, 08:59:05 PM
That came out nice Dannon.  It’s purty  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Shredd on April 26, 2018, 09:50:45 PM
Pretty Sexy there Dannon...  I once knew a girl that had curves like that...   :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 26, 2018, 10:08:52 PM
Thanks guys!
I'm pleased with how it turned out, and she shoots pretty good too!
Shred, I dated a girl with curves like that also, then I married her! Now she's just one big curve!! Lol! :o
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on April 27, 2018, 12:09:31 AM
Ohhhhh  Chitttt...  I hope a certain someone don't see your posts...  Or your gonna be like the guy with the jiggly eye...   :knothead:    :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: goobersan on April 27, 2018, 01:49:56 AM
lol     :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Dannon
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 27, 2018, 08:19:38 AM
Good looking bows getting done!!  Like the curves on all of em!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 27, 2018, 08:21:40 AM
Nice, Dannon.
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Post by: C. Johnson on April 27, 2018, 10:06:29 AM
Looks great Dannon!
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Post by: Dannon on April 27, 2018, 05:17:55 PM
Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 30, 2018, 12:26:36 PM
Hmmmm, should I send this? The scrap wasn’t big enough to suit me, so did the best I could with what I had.

I dunno, maybe I should just keep it, it does sound good..... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180430/8b59100a1e80d386d400df2c359b4afb.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 30, 2018, 12:30:47 PM
What is that. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 30, 2018, 12:39:22 PM
You ain’t got white tails out there? Bet it might work on Muleys too! Not sayin it is goin west .  :saywhat:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on April 30, 2018, 12:41:35 PM
Oohh , I bet you thought I made it for Roy!!  :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on April 30, 2018, 01:03:57 PM
Dang Kenny! That is one good looking bow.....the grunt call is nice too!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on April 30, 2018, 03:59:15 PM
Oh, it's a grunt call!

Don't need one, I grunt with every step up the mountain. :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on April 30, 2018, 06:14:50 PM
Dang - I like that combination of woods Kenny.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on April 30, 2018, 07:09:09 PM
Is this thing still going on..??  Lol...  I should have dragged out my build...

  Nice looking bow and call Kenny...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 30, 2018, 07:25:30 PM
Got home from my TDY tonight, back to building tomorrow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Forwardhandle on May 01, 2018, 04:39:39 AM
Thats really sweet Kenny especialy on that forward handle !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 01, 2018, 07:49:23 AM
Looks like a funnel..

What's ya trying to say ole boy?

 :laughing:

Sweet bow bud..

Call is nice too.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 02, 2018, 06:04:19 PM
I worked on the form a bit but stalled deciding between hose and rubber band method.  Settled on the riser shape and it's ready to stick on the riser block but after studying the block for over an hour couldn't decide how to cut it.  Finally decided to take a nap.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 03, 2018, 09:27:21 PM
So there are now two bows on hold waiting for their recipients to finish up. There is one bow that should be in the mail any day. Things are moving. I have sent emails to a couple guys who haven't posted for awhile just to check in. If you haven't noted anything in the last couple weeks, you might post something up to let us know you're still alive.

I found some really cool wood in a scrap pile for a riser. Plan to get her glued up this weekend now that the test bow worked out so well. I'll try to post pics of the lams tomorrow. Yew belly and some dark wood I forget the name of at the moment on the back. You'll probably only be able to see the grain in the sun, but still cool.

-Dave
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on May 03, 2018, 11:09:55 PM
That's a great combo Kenny! It's hard to find a grunt call made of wood now days, the plastic ones just don't sound real to me. I made a little something extra for my victim too since I got finished early, I'm keeping mine a secret though.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Buemaker on May 04, 2018, 01:32:49 AM
Very nice work Kenny and I am impressed how well that glued on belly piece lines up with the rest.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 04, 2018, 04:12:31 AM
Got all the overlays on and the tips roughed out.  Put five arrows through it last night, I have to say the thing shoots like a dream!  Taking it camping at the range tonight and will shoot it in during the weekly 3D shoot tomorrow.  I should have it finish sanded and coated by Tuesday, and shipped by Thursday.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 04, 2018, 02:54:22 PM
Working on the riser.  The wood is Myrtle but it's not that dark.  Blade burn!  Didn't realize how far gone the blade is but once started I pushed on through.

So the blade is replaced now.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 04, 2018, 06:35:54 PM
Roy, you could use it for a funnel, but not sure what kind of noise it would make running beer thru it....

Thanks Bue, I took some special pains getting the lines to align..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 04, 2018, 10:16:47 PM
Kenny, light beer wouldn't make much noise...

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on May 05, 2018, 09:21:06 AM
got the limbs mounted. everything looks good. had to order a tool so waiting for it to come in. I was hoping the accent stripe I put in had more contrast but you never know what wood is like under the surface.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 05, 2018, 09:33:52 AM
Nice, Tim.

You posted a thumbnail picture, which is fine.

After you select your picture from your PC or phone, just to the right of the little window where the picture name appears, click ( Insert Attachment 1 ). That will make the picture full size in your post.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 06, 2018, 11:59:12 AM
here is your bow mate :D
need some more things to do, but it is pretty much completed...

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 06, 2018, 12:49:57 PM
I'm finally done with it, gonna try to get it sent off tomorrow.....
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 06, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
Going in morning, victim should receive it in 3 to 725 days  :laughing:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180506/50dbbce41a89ad3df8017d349faf955d.jpg)


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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 06, 2018, 04:12:29 PM
Ink, you have come a long way..

 :thumbsup:

Kenny, now that is a shipping box..
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 06, 2018, 04:22:59 PM
Kenny spends more on his shipping box than I spend on a bow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 06, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
When I made it I was thinkin it would make a good shelf !! LOL
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 06, 2018, 04:36:55 PM
All scraps! That's the good side!! :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 07, 2018, 04:04:03 AM
re: roy
thanks mate... especially if you think that i do not have wood shop in my new house, i guess this is good effort. atm, i am working in my balcony with praying my neighbors not to burn me on a stick  :biglaugh:

i hope i will finish the rest and able to ship next week.

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 08, 2018, 10:11:40 PM
Pulled the bow out of the oven, but nice weather, fire pit and whiskey called so I never cleaned up the goobers. Hope she turned out... the glue up was a bit crazy with a new riser being required on the fly.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 08, 2018, 10:32:37 PM
Put final 3 coats of Thunderbird on the bow today, plan to ship her off this weekend. Maybe before as long as finish looks good. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 08, 2018, 10:34:19 PM
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on May 09, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
Looks great Jacob!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 09, 2018, 09:00:39 AM
Figure I owe some pictures. Let's see if I can get them to work directly on this site without imgur...

First, here is the prototype bow. I need some better pics out in the sunlight, but this will give y'all the idea:
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Then, here are the lams I used for the actual swap bow. Yew belly, ziricote back:
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All glued up and ready for the oven on Sunday:
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So I had found this really great laminated wood in the dumpster, not sure how old or what it was originally used for. Hard, heavy, resin impregnated, in 10' strips, 2" wide x 1-1/8" thick. Had that old plywood smell to it when you worked with it, but looked awesome if you tried shaping it. And seemed crazy strong, and had a little weight to it. Figured it would make good riser wood. I glued two together for that purpose and cooked it in the oven. I was surprised when it came out that I saw a few cracks had developed during heating. After some consideration, I figured I'd still go with it. Shaped it into the riser (you can see it on the left):
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I had everything glued up and was making some last minute adjustments to the placement of the tip wedges before moving to the form when the riser slid out and hit the floor. This has happened before, but usually it is salvageable once I clean the dirt off and re-glue. Maybe one fade is a bit banged up, but usually it doesn't affect the finished bow. However, looking at this one showed both fades had shattered back to where it was almost 1/8 thick. I hadn't thought about how brittle it might be. So with my wife tapping her foot because we were due at the neighbor's for dinner I had to slam out another riser. I grabbed the first thing I could think of that was thick enough for a solid riser that wouldn't look too bad - walnut. Hope my recipient is ok with that. Should look ok I guess...

Otherwise Sunday was a good day in the bow shop. First time I glued up two bows in one day. The form was still warm from the first one when the second one went back in the oven.

Should have this thing shooting this weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 09, 2018, 09:18:37 AM
Very nice, Dave.
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Post by: BMorv on May 09, 2018, 09:29:28 AM
Nice Jacob. 
And I like that color combo Dave.  That's going to be purty.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 10, 2018, 09:27:19 AM
That coco sure does pop
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 10, 2018, 10:34:09 AM
Very nice Benton!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2018, 11:24:44 AM
Very nice, Mr. Ben..

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on May 10, 2018, 03:30:56 PM
C'mon Canopy...  Would love to see that bow at brace and 28" draw...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 10, 2018, 07:29:53 PM
Well, I got home today and guess what! I had a long box leaned up against the house under the porch! I recognized the box right away and couldn't believe what I was seeing! All I can say is I'm in awe! I was wondering where I was gonna get a good box to mail my victims bow! Now I got one!

Upon further inspection, the box contained one of the prettiest forward handle longbows I've ever put in my hand. Kenny, I'm not just saying that. I'm truly unworthy! I've had one custom bow built, and I've shot many more, and this bow you've built absolutely blows me away! I'm forever grateful! I will try to get some good pictures up soon! Wouldn't you know it, I tried taking pictures with my phone but apparently there was a memory issue and I couldn't take pics, so I had my son take a full draw pic.

Kenny, thank you! I look forward to spending many hours in a tree admiring that bow!  By the way, the grunt call is pretty awesome too!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2018, 08:42:10 PM
Very nice, the ole boy does nice work sometimes..  :laughing:

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 10, 2018, 08:54:14 PM
Dannon, you are quite welcome, I’m glad you like it, it is technically a test bow!! LOL

BTW , you anchor a lot the same as I do. Except I stick my thumb knuckle behind my jawbone.

Roy , I don’t get much done but I try to be nice...  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 10, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
Ya sure ya do...

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 10, 2018, 09:12:45 PM
Roy, he may do nice work sometimes but he knocked it out of the park this time!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 10, 2018, 09:54:33 PM
C'mon Canopy...  Would love to see that bow at brace and 28" draw...

In due time...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 11, 2018, 05:18:31 AM
Dannon, I guess he's ok..
 :laughing: :thumbsup:

Ole Kenny and I have been poking each other in the ribs for years in here.

All in fun though.

I also have one of his long bows and it's a sweet fast shooter.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 11, 2018, 07:52:35 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you all scuff sand your glass before clear-coating?  If so, is 400-600 grit acceptable?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on May 11, 2018, 08:50:27 AM
Just out of curiosity, do you all scuff sand your glass before clear-coating?  If so, is 400-600 grit acceptable?

Yeah, you pretty much have to.  The manufacturer puts some kind of coating on it which is very resistant to other things adhering to it.

I typically sand to 400 grit if it's getting a gloss finish.  220 grit if matte.  Wipe it down with acetone then spray the clear.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 11, 2018, 10:30:04 AM
I do the same but go to 320
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 11, 2018, 12:11:47 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 11, 2018, 03:37:25 PM
Today I put the final tweaks on the form and finished fitting the riser.  The limb backset radius runs across the entire form so the riser needs to be fitted carefully.  It's tedious but it's done.

also experimented with dyeing some tip wedges.  One of these soaked in ferric nitrate solution and the other in rit dye for about eight hours.  The light one is the ferric and the dark one is the rit.  You can see by the cut off ends that the ferric saturated the wood and the dye did not.

So, I'll use the ferric dyed ones.



Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 12, 2018, 10:39:20 PM
My recipient’s bow launched a bunch of arrows today. Needs final sanding and finish now. Out next week, so maybe finish up memorial weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on May 14, 2018, 11:26:57 AM
Clarification Needed:

This is my first swap.  Do we post pics of the bow before shipping or is the victim supposed to post the pics once they receive it?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 14, 2018, 11:32:36 AM
I'll be posting pictures of mine shipping out for the sole purpose of building anticipation lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 14, 2018, 11:53:52 AM
Clarification Needed:

This is my first swap.  Do we post pics of the bow before shipping or is the victim supposed to post the pics once they receive it?

Preferably both. Just don’t give it away in your pics. (Ie cover up the name and specs if written on the bow.)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: skeaterbait on May 14, 2018, 02:00:57 PM
I thought posting a full draw pic of the bow you received was part of rules?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 14, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
YEP..

UPON RECEIPT:
You need to post some pictures. Your bowyer may post the most beautiful pictures in the history of bow porn prior to shipping, but that doesn’t remove your obligation to post at least one full draw pic with your new bow. I don’t want to hear any excuses about camera batteries in a sock drawer. Find a teenager somewhere to take a picture for you if necessary, or call me and I’ll see if we can get the posse to visit and help you out.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on May 14, 2018, 04:25:46 PM
Thanks.  Wasn't clear to me if that was the obligation of the giver or the receiver.  But I'll do both.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 14, 2018, 05:31:18 PM
Definitely an obligation for receiving party. Highly recommended for the sender too though. As was mentioned, definitely adds to the excitement.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 14, 2018, 10:18:42 PM
Question....I'm currently working on another bow for myself and it's really turning out nice! Can I use the one I'm currently building for my swap bow instead?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 15, 2018, 02:29:42 AM
Here is latest update....

this weekend i will be shooting some arrows. then it will be ready to ship.
i made some changes after taking pics.
added some leather on arrow rest, natural tree skin to side of arrow rest,  3d printed luminescent archery logo on one limb etc...

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2018, 06:14:34 AM
Not bad, Ink.

Are you leaving the tips that blocky?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 15, 2018, 06:46:45 AM
yes roy i will leave tips blocky. gives some weirdly looking and i like that...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 15, 2018, 08:14:59 AM
Question....I'm currently working on another bow for myself and it's really turning out nice! Can I use the one I'm currently building for my swap bow instead?

Up to you. If it meets the specs, can be shipped on time, and you’re happier with it then it seems like a no-brainer.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 15, 2018, 08:34:14 AM
Ink, that's entirely up to you leaving them bulky.

I wouldn't though.

Distracts from performance and looks.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 15, 2018, 09:29:29 AM
Canopyboy, I'll post pics of the bow I'm working on now then. I done some things different on this bow that I like better. It'll be finished in time, just like some final sanding and spraying a finish. I shot it last night several times, shoots really good! I'll post some pics of it this afternoon.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 15, 2018, 09:38:55 AM
Nice job Ink.  I like it.

I didn't want to jinx myself, but I'm gonna call this one finished.  Got the finish on, and shot some more arrows through it.  It's fast and fun to shoot.

Now I just need to build a crate and get it shipped off, somewhere....

Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Garman on May 15, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
Bmorv is that black glass on the belly? Then you just glued up handle over the top...? Sorry just new to all of this. Looks very nice
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 15, 2018, 11:29:21 AM
Garman, it's an all wood tri lam.  That's ipe on the belly that has that rich dark brown color.  It's the best piece of ipe I've found in 3 years of looking.   
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Garman on May 15, 2018, 11:46:04 AM
Very cool looking, almost looks (from pics) like black glass.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 15, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
Thanks Garman
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on May 15, 2018, 03:08:03 PM
First Swap - Entry-level build
To be fair, I gave fair warning that I was building a board bow & that I should be paired with another entry-level builder out there.  I attempted three different experimental builds before getting this one to work out.  But with precious little time to get this thing done now, I can honestly say that I've done better finish work.  But aesthetics aside, this bow is shooting better than I expected.  My 20-yard gap is right around 7" with 600 grain arrows, which is better than I usually get with my homemade stuff.  Arrows that were about 500 grains sounded much nicer coming off the bow & flew much faster.  If I were to set this thing up, I'd drop to 4" fletching on a 500 grain arrow.

This is a simple hickory-backed maple.  My son helped with the roughing out stage.  I taught him a little about using a block plane.  He often comes to hang out and chat when I work on archery gear. 

I put in a couple inches of backset (perry reflex?) at the glue-up stage.  After shooting in, the bow holds no set.  It's 65" NTN.  It's asymmetrical -- bottom limb is about 1.25" shorter.  1.5" at the fades, parallel for the first half and tapering to 1/2" nocks.  There's a small knot in the belly in the upper third of the top limb so I left that part a little stiff, as well as the last 6" or so of each limb.

My wife ran over the scale I use on the tillering tree while I was scraping so I'm guessing it pulls about 45# at 28" but I wrote 40# expecting it to drop a little after a few hundred more arrows run through it.  We'll call it 40+#.  Hopefully, my victim can find a use for it or, if not, give it away to a newer archer out there.  I'd be absolutely tickled if somebody were able to use this successfully on a hunt.

I'm pretty well humbled by the bows I'm seeing made on here.  I'm not in the league of craftsmanship of most of you but I'll take this as an opportunity to learn what I can & appreciate the opportunity to participate.  All constructive feedback is appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 15, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Nice Yosemite.  Your tiller looks great as far as I can see.   
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 15, 2018, 05:31:20 PM
Ok, I have this thing finish sanded and I'm taking it to work tomorrow to clear coat it.  Here is what I have as of right now, final pictures to follow tomorrow.

(http://i.imgur.com/uNt6wRI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/uNt6wRI)

(http://i.imgur.com/lQqXbgP.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lQqXbgP)

(http://i.imgur.com/NA9Z3a7.jpg) (https://imgur.com/NA9Z3a7)

(http://i.imgur.com/E4lnjRG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/E4lnjRG)

(http://i.imgur.com/fvuAJP9.jpg) (https://imgur.com/fvuAJP9)

(http://i.imgur.com/N14VkXd.jpg) (https://imgur.com/N14VkXd)

(http://i.imgur.com/hmIh6tv.jpg) (https://imgur.com/hmIh6tv)

(http://i.imgur.com/KKS9k8C.jpg) (https://imgur.com/KKS9k8C)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 15, 2018, 05:58:00 PM
Wow, that's a beauty.  Hmmmm... beauty and the beast?

Well done.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 15, 2018, 06:50:49 PM
Evildogbeast, what riser wood is that. Very nice bow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 15, 2018, 07:08:10 PM
Thanks guys.  Dannon, it's Santos Rosewood.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 15, 2018, 09:50:10 PM
Awesome Chris!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 15, 2018, 09:55:31 PM
Matt, that’s an awesome “board bow”. Well done!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 16, 2018, 06:12:12 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 16, 2018, 07:04:01 AM
thanks bmorv...
i have sanded the tips by the advice of Roy. maybe i can go further and replace the tips with something thinner.
btw: i always liked bamboo backed bows... thanks for making me one  :bigsmyl:

 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 16, 2018, 08:21:42 AM
Sweet bows guys!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 16, 2018, 08:34:53 AM
Just clear coated the bow, it looks amazing. Pictures to follow when it's dry!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 16, 2018, 09:55:19 AM
(https://s19.postimg.cc/4jhiw3iib/IMG_5417.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i0eheystr/)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/noks5upgj/IMG_5418.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/70ta3cuov/)
Put the first coat of spray on it last night and noticed a spot I missed in the final sanding. I'll go back and sand that spot tonight and get the final coats put on. I've decided to make this one my swap bow, although I was really wanting to keep it for myself. However I want my victim to recieve the best that I have to offer. The original swap bow looks and shoots great I just had a few rookie errors in it that most people wouldn't notice but someone who builds bows would. So I'll keep the original one for myself, and of course build me some more.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on May 16, 2018, 12:59:21 PM
Stunning work, gents!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on May 16, 2018, 03:44:06 PM
Some real nice looking bows in the swap this year.
Great work everyone.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 18, 2018, 02:30:43 PM
hi there,


i am still dealing with limbs tillering... it is taking long since i just can work on weekends.
but it seems like i nailed the victims expectations.

as soon as i am happy with tillering i will be shipping it away...

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on May 19, 2018, 01:01:26 AM
Remind me, please. We need to wait for confirmation from canopyboy before shipping, correct?  Or do we just ship ASAP?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 19, 2018, 04:14:02 AM
It depends, you only have to wait if you have a first-timer or if you have a late sender from last year.  I would PM him and let him know you're ready to ship and then see what he says.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 19, 2018, 04:30:01 AM
Dannon that is awesome.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 19, 2018, 08:06:32 AM
Yosemite, sent you a PM. But Evildog is right. I should have told you if need to wait for an ok when I sent you your original info.

As a secondary note, if you’re a newbie or late shipper who is packed and ready to ship, I need to know so I can tell your bowyer who may or may not be holding your bow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 19, 2018, 12:38:57 PM
Thanks Roy! I think I'm getting the hang of this bow building thing! :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 19, 2018, 01:13:49 PM
Yes you are..

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 19, 2018, 02:13:07 PM
Clear coated and crate made, just have to wait until Monday for the Post Office to open so I can mail her off.  Made the crate as bomb-proof as possible to survive our wonderful military postal employees....

(http://i.imgur.com/7Gox2DI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7Gox2DI)

(http://i.imgur.com/b5mQ2LI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/b5mQ2LI)

(http://i.imgur.com/lRR2HMC.jpg) (https://imgur.com/lRR2HMC)

(http://i.imgur.com/HmnCvl1.jpg) (https://imgur.com/HmnCvl1)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 19, 2018, 04:02:03 PM
Finished up and waiting to get the go ahead on this one. Until then, I'll just keep enjoying shooting it!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on May 19, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
Two good looking bows, Brothers...  Dannon...  I like those accents...  I been wanting some Osage for a while...  I am gonna post a thread...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on May 19, 2018, 10:36:41 PM
Some good look'n bows getting finished up!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 21, 2018, 10:20:02 AM
Those 2 bows finished up nicely! dang....a couple people are going to be happy. 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on May 21, 2018, 10:24:42 AM
Wow!  Both of those are beautiful!  It sure wouldn't hurt my feelings if one of them were to land on my doorstep..... :pray:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 21, 2018, 06:20:30 PM
Bow is done and crated up.  Here, have some glamour pics!  My favorites are the profiled limb tip where you can see through the glass and the belly from below.  Clear coated with Deft aircraft grade polyurethane clear coat liberated from work (the paint we use on our F-15's).  Shipping out tomorrow morning which should put it on my victim's door-step in about 1-2 weeks because of the wicked fast APO mail...  Canopy, tracking number inbound!

(http://i.imgur.com/DH2jb14.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DH2jb14)

(http://i.imgur.com/IUi8a7b.jpg) (https://imgur.com/IUi8a7b)

(http://i.imgur.com/PUneqkI.jpg) (https://imgur.com/PUneqkI)

(http://i.imgur.com/W0vPG6V.jpg) (https://imgur.com/W0vPG6V)

(http://i.imgur.com/pg47fQe.jpg) (https://imgur.com/pg47fQe)

(http://i.imgur.com/aP8GUt8.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aP8GUt8)

(http://i.imgur.com/GaLVUEV.jpg) (https://imgur.com/GaLVUEV)

(http://i.imgur.com/zwXBYab.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zwXBYab)

(http://i.imgur.com/oaTCHFA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/oaTCHFA)

(http://i.imgur.com/seKST2y.jpg) (https://imgur.com/seKST2y)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 21, 2018, 08:51:25 PM
Sweet!! Bending beautifully and lookin good doing it!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on May 21, 2018, 09:33:02 PM
Nice job Chris!!!
With the issues you had in the beginning, you ended up with a beautiful bow.
 :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 22, 2018, 04:09:06 AM
Thanks guys, it means a lot from you all.  She isn't perfect, but I'm proud to call it my first laminate bow and that one of you will have it.  I learned a lot from this process and from all of you, I only wish I had started doing this sooner.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 22, 2018, 07:43:42 AM
Shipped, someone will have a crate on their doorstep in 7-10 business days!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 22, 2018, 02:34:44 PM
She's all packaged up and off to her victim! I spent a whole week trying to find some way to send it besides a cruddy box. I think the pvc will be plenty strong. My one regret, we will see if it gets noticed, I tried writing with a permanent marker and it was blotchy I sanded it down, but still a little showing under finish. Sorry to the victim. Maybe I shouldn't have pointed it out.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 22, 2018, 02:53:16 PM
Just built a set of pressure plates for the trade bow. I planned to lay it up today but a graduation just popped up out of nowhere so it will be tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 22, 2018, 03:01:54 PM
So, opinions on tip wedges.  70" ASL with .005 taper, 1.125 at the fades and 7/16 at the nocks.  So, 27.5" working limb length.  Any thoughts on how long the tip wedges should be?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 22, 2018, 10:14:19 PM
Jdeitz10, I finally found these at Hobby Lobby and they work great!
(https://s19.postimg.cc/szcaycgk3/IMG_5436.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6an3yrz67/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 22, 2018, 10:56:31 PM
What kind of tips do those have?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 22, 2018, 11:04:33 PM
Thanks! That is what I used round 2!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 23, 2018, 07:42:16 AM
They have a very fine tip n them. They're the kind that you push down two or three times to get the paint flowing.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 23, 2018, 10:38:04 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 23, 2018, 01:48:20 PM
Progress made!  It's in the oven.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 23, 2018, 01:49:30 PM
Tip wedges aren't in the picture.  Forgot to lay them out but caught it in time.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 23, 2018, 08:42:43 PM
Got mine ready to ship out tomorrow or Friday. Recycling Kenny's box to mail mine!
(https://s19.postimg.cc/58w81v00z/IMG_5437.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f678ux7mn/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 24, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
My bow ships out today. My victim should see a package on their doorstep in 3-4 days.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 25, 2018, 06:32:24 AM
finally...

i have done with bow...
finished and ready to ship. next week, i will be shipping it.

BTW:
my formula to write on bow etc.
materials needed.
1. gouache (white)
2. white (opaque) wood glue
3. water

put little amount of gouache in to pod and mix it with little amount of water until it dissolves completely.
then put some wood glue and mix it again.

with dip pen you can write permanently.

this method was used in permanent black indian and chinese inks in history. i just converted a little. they were using resin instead of glue and ashes for black powder.

maybe this information can be useful to someone :D

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 25, 2018, 01:13:17 PM
Ink, what is "gouache"?

Made progress yesterday and got it profiled, tip overlays on and on a long string.

The strung profile is interesting and seems to contribute to smooth and stack free draw.  Maybe there is something to this running the backset through the entire length.

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This is the clear glass from Bear Paw.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on May 25, 2018, 03:01:28 PM
Nice job Ink.  I like it.

I didn't want to jinx myself, but I'm gonna call this one finished.  Got the finish on, and shot some more arrows through it.  It's fast and fun to shoot.

Now I just need to build a crate and get it shipped off, somewhere....



job well done ben!!! :clapper:   it has made its way here to Minnesota in great shape...thanks soooo much! will try to get pics up soon
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on May 25, 2018, 06:14:16 PM
Awesome! You are welcome.  Glad it made it alright. 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on May 25, 2018, 07:29:52 PM
I received a white tube in the mail today. I'll post some pics this weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on May 26, 2018, 12:01:00 PM
Ink, what is "gouache"?


https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=gouache&client=opera&hs=J6y&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlvcW-36PbAhUhD5oKHW3WCgwQ_AUICigB&biw=1273&bih=642


paint  that can dissolve with water.

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 26, 2018, 02:08:28 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 03:21:18 PM
Looky what the nice mail lady left this morning!!!


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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
Pic fail , guess I’ll have to do it the old way...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 03:55:56 PM
Chris, excellent job on this bow!!

And your packaging was nothing short of amazing!!

34 screws in the lid alone, and I couldn’t get all the bubble wrap back in the box without the bow in it!

I’m gonna shoot it this evening when it cools just a bit outside.

Thanks bro for a fine one and thanks to canopyboy for keeping track of all this!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 26, 2018, 06:18:43 PM
Kenny,

Thank you for the kind words, they truly mean a lot to me.  I over-packed the bow because the military postal system is very hard on packages and I didn't want them to screw it up. We often receive packages that are either crushed or completely water-logged (not kidding) and I didn't want that to happen to this.

I know this isn't the prettiest bow you have seen, and I learned a lot from building it. I had a ton of reservations doing this but I knew it was the only way I would ever cross the line and do it.

You are a hell of a guy, and you were the inspiration for most of the build I did this year.  When I found out I was your builder I was initially crushed. I didn't think I could ever come up with something that would impress you and I figured all was lost. It was a blessing in disguise though because it drove me to come up with my own bow design and think for myself.

Despite everything, I figured it out with help from you and the rest of the guys. I know there are things on this bow that should be improved upon, but it is my first laminate and I think it turned out ok. I am damn proud that you of all people hold my first laminate bow and I hope it servers you well.  Thank you for all the help you have given me in the past, and thank you for giving me the opportunity to build for you while teaching me at the same time.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 07:54:09 PM
Thank you for the kind word Chris, I like helping folks build them! 

I shot her a bit ago, first eyeballed a brass nock on the nice Flemish string. Then took my hunting shafts practice arrows and a bare shaft out to the target.  They are 500s GT with a 200 grain point. They work perfectly on my 48# TD longbow .

They are too weak for this 50# bow, but I toned the speed on my TD down a bit with 3 sets of silencers.

Kind of a backward way, but I go thru more bows than arrows so I try to tune the bow to the arrow sometimes.

This bow shoots great, wish I had some 400s to use , need to get some , I have about 3 bows now that need em.!!  :biglaugh:

Will have some pics including full draw when my fone gets charged back up!

The full draw pic is a sweet crescent bend that I absolutely love in a bow!! :clapper:

On another note, I need to use these trade bows more, and Renee says take some does this year, the bucks I wait on are not as good to eat.  :saywhat:

So I may go thru the bows I have received in the trades and try to take a deer with each one. (Except in the first half of November) :archer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 07:58:42 PM
Thank you for the kind word Chris, I like helping folks build them! 

I shot her a bit ago, first eyeballed a brass nock on the nice Flemish string. Then took my hunting shafts practice arrows and a bare shaft out to the target.  They are 500s GT with a 200 grain point. They work perfectly on my 48# TD longbow .

They are too weak for this 50# bow, but I toned the speed on my TD down a bit with 3 sets of silencers.

Kind of a backward way, but I go thru more bows than arrows so I try to tune the bow to the arrow sometimes.

This bow shoots great, wish I had some 400s to use , need to get some , I have about 3 bows now that need em.!!  :biglaugh:

Will have some pics including full draw when my fone gets charged back up!

The full draw pic is a sweet crescent bend that I absolutely love in a bow!! :clapper:

On another note, I need to use these trade bows more, and Renee says take some does this year, the bucks I wait on are not as good to eat.  :saywhat:

So I may go thru the bows I have received in the trades and try to take a deer with each one. (Except in the first half of November) :archer2:


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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 07:59:02 PM
Thank you for the kind word Chris, I like helping folks build them! 

I shot her a bit ago, first eyeballed a brass nock on the nice Flemish string. Then took my hunting shafts practice arrows and a bare shaft out to the target.  They are 500s GT with a 200 grain point. They work perfectly on my 48# TD longbow .

They are too weak for this 50# bow, but I toned the speed on my TD down a bit with 3 sets of silencers.

Kind of a backward way, but I go thru more bows than arrows so I try to tune the bow to the arrow sometimes.

This bow shoots great, wish I had some 400s to use , need to get some , I have about 3 bows now that need em.!!  :biglaugh:

Will have some pics including full draw when my fone gets charged back up!

The full draw pic is a sweet crescent bend that I absolutely love in a bow!! :clapper:

On another note, I need to use these trade bows more, and Renee says take some does this year, the bucks I wait on are not as good to eat.  :saywhat:

So I may go thru the bows I have received in the trades and try to take a deer with each one. (Except in the first half of November) :archer2:


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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 08:01:17 PM
Starting to hate TaT
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 26, 2018, 08:03:11 PM
Starting to hate TaT
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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Woodpuppy on May 26, 2018, 08:43:24 PM
Nice!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Shredd on May 26, 2018, 11:55:58 PM
  That looks great Chris... Love a nice D-shaped bow... Looks like it is bending good also...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 27, 2018, 08:27:32 AM
Well done Chris!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 27, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
My hat is off to Kelly. I seem to have trouble staying organized with this swap, and he did it for years with much bigger groups!

Anyhow, right now I have the following stats:
19 total participants
9 bows have been received
4 are being shipped (or about to be)
      -All bowyers who had been told to hold should have been given clearance to ship by now.
That leaves 6 still in progress, including mine. I plan to spray later today or tomorrow. I've emailed a couple folks to ask that they post up some progress pics as we haven't heard from them for awhile.

With the first deadline in front of us, all first time participants have now shipped or have just been given the ok to ship and have been waiting patiently to do so. Well done guys! Now we just need the rest of the old-timers including myself to get theirs wrapped up and in the mail prior to the second deadline. Would be great if we had no one go into the grace period. (hint hint)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on May 27, 2018, 10:49:43 AM
well the first bow has been shelved. after roughing out limbs and getting the tape off the dreaded streaky glass strikes again. just didn't want to ship that. so I switched gears and decided to build a new bow. going with my second favorite...superaction gray riser and black glass limbs. riser is done and both limbs glued up. should be ready to ship next week. I'm really starting to hate clear glass
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 27, 2018, 11:00:58 PM
I got home from state track late last night and my wife had a package propped against the front door. Dannon,  I am wowed, I think the best part of this bow swap is getting to see the creativity you all have! Great color choices, perfect for hunting! I took it out today with the family, I was dreaming that I might see a bear and get to post some hero pics with your bow and a spring black bear. My kids made sure there were no bears within shouting distance, but got to test her out! What a great shooter! Smooth and silent! Jake





Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on May 28, 2018, 12:47:17 AM
 Finally got some pics of the bow jdeitz10 made me. She's a good shooter, might stack slightly at my draw but not to bad. Shoots full length G/T 400s like darts. I like the green glass. Jacob, what is the wood in the handle? Thanks building it for me!

(https://i.imgur.com/i4TBE8A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Yq2HiKB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NsNCTzp.jpg)

Travis
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 28, 2018, 07:12:20 AM
Jake I'm glad you like it, and I hope you do use it! Have fun with it and please give me any feedback you can, negative and positive!
Thanks,
Dannon
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 29, 2018, 10:55:14 AM
Travis, the riser is mahogany, hard maple in the limbs. It is a fast shooter, any suggestions on stack? I think I need to work on a better taper for the limbs.

Dannon, all positive on your bow, I might be a little long limbed for a 56" bow, I generally go no shorter than 62" not a complaint, just getting used to a shorter bow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on May 29, 2018, 05:59:47 PM
Jake, I thought I built the bow 58"??? :pray:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on May 29, 2018, 06:09:43 PM
I'll get pics loaded soon. got the bow almost ready to spray. should be spraying tomorrow. just wanted to give an update. went with charcoal gray diamondwood and black glass with red elm core
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 29, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Yes 58" typo
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on May 29, 2018, 10:50:49 PM
Jacob, the bottom 1/3 of the limb looks to be doing most of the work. You could taper your limbs more or add more taper to your lams. Its putting a lot of pressure on the fades, it makes me a little nervous shooting it at my draw. I think it would have less hand shock also if you get those limbs bending more, the top half of the limb is slamming forward all at once now giving it fair amount of hand shock. If you sand your bow form with a hand block and get it as true as you can making sure to keep it square then give it a coat of body filler and sand again it will get rid of the waves in your limbs. Use coarse paper, either 36 or 40 grit and it will be easier to get it true. The top limb has a curve in it when looking at the back of the bow, if you make a limb template with a square side that's true at the butt end of the limb and your limb taper above that you can line the true edge up with your squared riser, trace your limb profile on that side. Now flip the template over and repeat, If your riser is square you'll have a perfect limb profile. Hope all this didn't confuse you. These are just my opinions and I'm wrong a lot so if you guys see anything I'm wrong on feel free to correct me. 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jdeitz10 on May 30, 2018, 12:32:16 AM
Very helpful, I am hunting with this design now, with heavier wood there is less shock, that one does have a phenolic I beam to help. This summer I am going back to the drawing board.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 31, 2018, 06:32:33 PM
DISASTER!!! :scared:

Today I stripped tape off to start final sanding and round the corners.  Now, before I proceed, understand that I had stripped off all the tape when it came out of the oven.  Everything was hunky dory.  I retaped to protect the glass and when I took it off today this jumped out at me.

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Wish I could say they are only scratches or streaks, but they are cracks.  Haven't figured out yet what caused them but it's a sure thing it can't go to my victim.  Soooo... It's start over time. :(
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on May 31, 2018, 07:06:47 PM
No!!!!

Sorry to hear that Mike.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Bvas on May 31, 2018, 08:20:02 PM
That stinks Mike.
I had same thing on my last bow. But I think I did mine prying the bow off the form(had a lot of squeeze out). Fortunately mine were close enough to the edge that they came out when I profiled the limbs.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 31, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
Damn, Mike..

That sucks...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on May 31, 2018, 09:13:04 PM
Well, onwards!

I'll keep this bow for a shooter and see how long it lasts.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on May 31, 2018, 09:23:50 PM
Man, that is a kick in the ... Hate that for you ,Mike!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on June 01, 2018, 02:49:53 AM
hi there...


i am building bow for a sometime but i can not say that i am building eagerly since i can only work at weekends after playing / spending sometime with my kids (which is the only time that i can do this).
i know that the bows that i built are not perfect but i guess it is good enough. well mate here is your bow and mandatory pictures. i hope (  :pray: ) you like it.

critics are always welcome.

have fun...

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best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 01, 2018, 03:11:18 AM
Looks nice ink!  I understand the time issue, I feel the same way when I'm building.  I know I wouldn't be sad to see that bow show up at my doorstep!  Good job brother.

Edit:  Do you have any more pictures?  Let's see some glamour shots!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on June 01, 2018, 08:00:08 AM
Looks nice ink!  I understand the time issue, I feel the same way when I'm building.  I know I wouldn't be sad to see that bow show up at my doorstep!  Good job brother.

Edit:  Do you have any more pictures?  Let's see some glamour shots!

thanks mate...
who knows who will receive it, right?
those are the only pics that i have with full draw. but i have post pictures in a lot to this thread.
i have shot some arrows with this bow. i felt no disturbance. arrows fly nicely.
i have put "luminescent" logo (3d printed) on upper limb. if you expose it to a light for 15-20 secs it will glow all night. (btw: i am not sure if this is something good or bad)
and put string stopper to both limbs for which not to damage the limbs.

well, let see how receiver will react.

best.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 01, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
I'm sure they will love it, good work!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
sitting in my recliner trying to avoid this ridiculous heat my trade bow is laying over there screaming at me to shoot her! So I braced my KennyM forward handle bow up and step outside. From 25 yards I shoot all three arrows in my quiver. I think I'm gonna spill lots of blood to the ground in the future with this bow! I'll take a group like that any day!
(https://s19.postimg.cc/eb3afwj3n/IMG_5460.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w14z0xwof/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 01, 2018, 07:38:22 PM
No one likes a show off.

 :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 07:40:56 PM
Lol! Canopyboy, when I shoot a group like that.....I'm showing somebody!!!  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on June 01, 2018, 08:31:40 PM
Dannon, there is a recall on that bow for animal safety reasons.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 08:33:57 PM
Kenny, they should be afraid! Very afraid! :archer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 01, 2018, 08:59:39 PM
Try again tomorrow and post the results. For scientific purposes...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on June 01, 2018, 09:44:44 PM
Just out of curiosity Dannon, how do you like the grip on that bow?  That is my fave type of grip anymore.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 10:14:11 PM
I really like it Kenny. Feels really good in the hand. The bow draws very smooth out to my draw length. Overall just a very shootable bow. I'm gonna start to play around with some different arrows with weighted inserts to add some weight up front. Headed back to Colorado in September and this bow is definitely coming with me. You have
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 10:16:17 PM
Canopyboy, I will do that but only if you'll place a little wager with me? I'll bet you it won't be that tight of a group. You in?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 01, 2018, 10:19:21 PM
In? Absolutely! I’m betting you’ll need to repair the first arrow after the second shot.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 01, 2018, 10:25:08 PM
Repair because I miss the target and hit the gravel?  :biglaugh:
Is there a way to upload videos on here?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on June 02, 2018, 01:34:11 PM
If my tracking info is correct someone should have a package.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on June 02, 2018, 01:58:35 PM
Someone did get a bow today.  That was me!  What an awesome bow Travis! Quality, workmanship, and beauty are top notch.  And not to mention I got a knife too!  I definitely feel like this bow is out of my league but I’m so happy to have it. 
Unfortunately as the ups guy handed me the package my wife told me we needed to leave on our overnight trip so I will have to delay shooting and picture taking until at earliest tomorrow.  But I did manage to put it together and string it, and my wife made the comment you look like a kid at Christmas, and that’s what it feels like.  Can’t wait to do a full review of it when it get back! 
Thanks so much !
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on June 02, 2018, 08:21:36 PM
well here she is....the grim reaper  :biglaugh:

love this combo and I hope the recipient does as well. just got to get a couple strings twisted up and she's ready to go [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on June 02, 2018, 10:23:43 PM
Looks great Tim, love that full draw profile!!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on June 02, 2018, 11:31:02 PM
TradBowyer , that is a sexy bow! I like longbows with slim lines. BMorv I'm glad you like the bow, hope you enjoy it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 03, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
I like that Tim! Can't wait to see if it shows up on my doorstep...  :dunno:

Sprayed the 3rd coat tonight. Need to twist up a string and stick a little piece of leather on the shelf and she'll be off before I leave town on Friday.

It's coming down to the home stretch, kudos to all! :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 04, 2018, 07:07:08 AM
Just picked up a PVC pipe from the post office. Wonder what's inside?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 04, 2018, 08:07:04 AM
Fishing pole?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 04, 2018, 08:08:11 AM
Turns out it was just my new gutter downpipe...

Just kidding!  Large post with pictures incoming!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 04, 2018, 08:31:28 AM
Matt,

Excellent job with your bow!  The finish job is amazing, whatever you put on the back to bring out the grain really makes it look sweet.  I also really like the way you did the nocks.  You sell yourself short my man, this is a fabulous bow that I couldn't build myself (believe me I've tried).  There is something to be said for the beauty of simplicity in craftsmanship, it pleases me greatly.

So on to the details!  I threw it up on the scale since yours came to an untimely end, and you were right on with your estimate.  Comes to 43# @ 28", and shoots hard and fast!  It really likes the carbons I use for my recurve and puts them right where I'm looking.  I actually shot the center out of my "target butt" within the first 10 minutes of shooting!  I can't wait to get out to the range and put this to work on the 3D course.  On top of all this, you were kind enough to send me a 3Rivers gift card.  I'm beside myself really, your craftsmanship and kindness are top-notch Matt.  Thank you for building this for me!

(http://i.imgur.com/7jqFIVZ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7jqFIVZ)

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on June 04, 2018, 09:26:06 AM
Nice Job Matt.  Looks great. 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: BMorv on June 04, 2018, 09:43:15 AM
I was able to get out and shoot my bow, and man was I impressed!

Travis, you did an amazing job on this bow!  The looks are stunning and it shoots just as good as it looks.  It's smooth and has zero hand shock.  It's actually smoother to draw and feels lighter than my 55 lb longbow.  I put in on the scale and it came right in a 60#'s, a perfect hunting weapon.  I almost wish it wasn't so nice, because I'm already thinking about how I will protect it when I bring it in the woods with me.  I'm gonna load this guy up with a heavy arrow and the hogs better watch out in a few months.

And this knife is awesome too!  Never had a custom knife before, but always wanted one.  This will be right along side me this hunting season. 

You really out did yourself Travis.  I can't say enough about how happy I am to have it.  You even got me rethinking that " I only build wooden bows" thing I have. 
Excellent job
-Ben

 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 04, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
Wow! A couple more amazing bows. It’s getting fun now!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on June 04, 2018, 02:38:01 PM
Chris, you're too kind.  Good of you to find a few redeeming qualities in it.  Looks like it shoots just fine in your hands.

Thanks for posting that you received it.  The tracking number didn't scan in so I had no idea where it was after I dropped it off.  Had me worried.

Hope you can get some fun out of it.

BMorv - Thank you.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: TradBowyer on June 04, 2018, 02:55:58 PM
allow me expound a little more on the grim reaper lol. got a little too eager to get pictures up. she is 62" long pulling 53@27 on my scale. I purposely build my longbows about 10# overweight so I can trap the limbs which really improves performance. for extra speed I went with 3 lams of red elm one being a 0.002 taper. this is the max taper I like with my design as any more and the limbs get whippy. I'm a bowhunter first so all my bows are designed with stability first on the list. so my philosophy is I maximize speed to the point where my stability is not compromised. ok enough of that. the riser is solid charcoal diamondwood to give a little weight to help with pointing the bow and to aid in absorbing some vibration. I went with two layers of phenolic overlays to allow the use of any string material the recipient would want to use. overall im very pleased with it. its a good thing its a righty and not a lefty or it might not be leaving. its hard building a blind bow for someone because you can't find out their preferences. I didn't put a leather handle wrap on because I normally don't on my TD longbows. well that about wraps this up. I hope the recipient accepts it.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 04, 2018, 04:26:01 PM
Matt,

Yeah the military postal system is terrible with everything from tracking to delivering undamaged packages.  Most of the time once something hits Chicago you won't hear from it again until it gets picked up.  As far as the bow goes, I'm going to have a blast with it!  You should be proud of that bow Matt, it looks good and shoots well, but most of all I'm proud to be the one that gets to use it!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Garman on June 04, 2018, 04:33:52 PM
Matt,

Yeah the military postal system is terrible with everything from tracking to delivering undamaged packages.  Most of the time once something hits Chicago you won't hear from it again until it gets picked up.  As far as the bow goes, I'm going to have a blast with it!  You should be proud of that bow Matt, it looks good and shoots well, but most of all I'm proud to be the one that gets to use it!

Minneapolis is about the same way.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on June 04, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
Matt,

Yeah the military postal system is terrible with everything from tracking to delivering undamaged packages.  Most of the time once something hits Chicago you won't hear from it again until it gets picked up.  As far as the bow goes, I'm going to have a blast with it!  You should be proud of that bow Matt, it looks good and shoots well, but most of all I'm proud to be the one that gets to use it!

In this case, it wasn't the military's fault.  I know for certain that it was my local carrier.  All the same, I'm relieved it made it.  I figured I could throw that pipe off my roof onto the asphalt and still have the bow in good condition ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 04, 2018, 05:46:23 PM
I just wanted to take a second to thank all of you for helping me get my bow made.  You all had a hand in it through your pictures and designs posted here which enabled me to create my frankenbow.  Kenny, you had a heavy influence on my build as I'm sure you can see, and I tried to get your grip design in there because you said you like it.  Hope I came close at least.  Bvas, thank you for all the feedback over the course of this swap, I am about to start a second build and I will be putting it to use.  Ritchie, thanks for bouncing all those ideas back and forth with me.  Thank you all for your guidance, whether it was inadvertent or direct.  I am a better bowyer because of it and I look forward to next year!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on June 04, 2018, 07:27:52 PM
Ben, Thanks for the positive review! Hope I built some pig MOJO into it for ya!

Some great looking bows showing up guys.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 08, 2018, 09:43:06 AM
So, how are we looking Dave?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 09, 2018, 10:43:08 PM
I believe a couple more are planned to ship this week. Almost done.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on June 09, 2018, 11:10:51 PM
I believe a couple more are planned to ship this week. Almost done.

Yep, I'm like a little kid waiting for a mail order package to arrive!  :pray: :pray:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on June 11, 2018, 02:30:51 PM
I have a good start on TGSB #2 and hopefully won't be too late shipping.

I have been shooting #1 quite a bit and it hasn't come apart...yet.  it's a good shooter.  Hope #2 shoots as well!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 13, 2018, 09:55:57 PM
Sorry I've been a bit absent, and it'll get worse before it gets better. Life and work have been crazy the last few weeks and I leave tomorrow for Bear Quest. The last few bows are either on their way or in the final stages. With a little luck, we may not need much "grace" time this year. Oh carp, did I just say that? I better knock on wood. With my head.

My recipient's bow has been done including string for awhile now. Just needs the leather sideplate and packing. I'm really sorry to keep him waiting a little longer, but it just won't happen tonight with a 0430 wakeup call tomorrow. I don't do well without sleep.

Will probably do a better update from the road while Sweka drives. But after we leave civilization, you'll have to take any complaining or questions up with Deputy Roy until I get back.

-Dave
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on June 14, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
Good luck with the bears.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Scifres on June 16, 2018, 08:13:40 AM
So I am the lucky recipient of Tradbowyer's beautiful bow.  Tim, you did an outstanding job on this bow.  I am so thrilled to be its caretaker.  I will get some live action photos of it soon but wanted to thank you for it as soon as possible. 

As for my bow, it is getting closer.  I will post a full update later but I think the recipient will be happy.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: SportHunter on June 18, 2018, 04:45:41 PM
Nice looking bows guys, keep up the great work!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 25, 2018, 08:33:06 AM
Back from Quebec. A cool bow from Ink was waiting for me. Hope to get home early enough to try it out and and post some pictures tonight. More to come!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on June 25, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
Work is progressing on TG swap bow #2.  I am out of town from the 27th to the 7th of july so I'm not going to hit deadline for sure.  Just not enough time to get the finish on.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Sacred mt on June 28, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
In the tillering stage on my second bow; first one didn't make the weight.  Should have it ready for shipping next week.

Thanks,  Sacred mt
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Dannon on June 30, 2018, 11:02:28 AM
Loving my KennyM longbow! Got out and shot a little this morning. 15 yards quartering away.
(https://s19.postimg.cc/4nylc5tlv/IMG_5550.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/wo2owfx27/)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 30, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
Life's been a bit crazy the last month or so, with long days at work and bear quest squeezed in between. But my victim's bow went to PO today and is on its way. It's been sitting there needing just a bit of leather on the shelf and a nocking point for weeks. A few pics, I'll let my victim post the full draw.

(https://i.imgur.com/S4HXNum.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/LnWVDHS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RpkYgSM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on June 30, 2018, 04:19:39 PM
A long overdue update on where we are:

Yet to ship-
   monterey
   Sacred mt
   John Scifres
   soy

Waiting to receive-
   monterey
   inksoup
   C. Johnson
   Yosemite Sam
   Mo_coon-catcher

Today is the deadline to ship, so tomorrow we begin the one month grace period. Hopefully our last four are able to get bows out shortly as I know their victims are eagerly waiting. Please keep us up to date on your progress with pics, I have no doubt they'll be worth the wait!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: bigbob2 on July 01, 2018, 05:47:39 AM
Beautiful bow there!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 01, 2018, 06:05:49 AM
Very nice Dave.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on July 02, 2018, 10:10:09 PM
I really like that sculpted grip Dave, looks great!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 09, 2018, 07:00:23 AM
Need those still not shipped to post some updates, preferably with a pic or two.

And someone should have received bow...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 09, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
Just got home from a ten day trip and my held mail was delivered Along with a beautiful kids bow for my grandson Josh.  Canopyboy builds a sweet bow.  More plus pictures to follow when I get the boy rounded up!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 09, 2018, 03:38:02 PM
Shaping and sanding.  Here it wet down for whiskering.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: arachnid on July 09, 2018, 04:11:53 PM
Amazing looking bows guys.
I think I'll join the swap next year :goldtooth:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 10, 2018, 01:42:20 PM
Very nice Mike, that’s going to look sharp!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on July 10, 2018, 08:45:40 PM
Very classy Mike!  That's gonna be a real looker!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 10, 2018, 11:04:32 PM
Thanks guys.  Hope my victim likes it!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 11, 2018, 05:37:20 AM
Nice Mike.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 14, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
Thanks, Roy.

The tips were just a bit robust so I took them down and like them better now.  If they are still too chubby say so!

Here's the before.





Here's the after.






Just one grit away from final sanding and it will be finish time.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 14, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
Definite improvement, even if subtle. Nice job Mike.

Was asked for confirmation of address, there should be one in the mail soon. Hope everyone is on track to finish, 2 weeks left!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on July 14, 2018, 09:12:34 PM
I think you made the right call on the tips - look good.  Bow is going to be sharp finished up.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 15, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
Thanks all.  I'm going to start finish today with a shellac coat sanded in.  Not decided yet on what to use for the final.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 17, 2018, 11:40:22 AM
Ok folks, 2 weeks from today is the deadline to ship within the grace period. We're down to our final four and all seem to be in the final stages if one hasn't already shipped. We've seen updates from monterey, but for the other three please post an update and let us know where you are.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 17, 2018, 02:37:57 PM
Also owe an update on the bow I received.  Trying to corral the kid for some photos but it's been difficult.  Maybe get him with me on a rove this weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 17, 2018, 03:22:42 PM
Yup, I couldn't do a full draw pic without giving away a bit too much information...   :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 18, 2018, 09:41:52 AM
You were sneaky!  What wood is under the glass?
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 18, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
Ziricote back, maple cores, yew belly, walnut riser.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 18, 2018, 11:01:37 PM
That's what I thought except for the zircote.  Has a very distinct look.  At first glance it looked like black glass but in better light it pops.

Saw you and your gator in TBM.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Sacred mt on July 19, 2018, 09:30:23 AM
Getting close to draw length and weight; Hunting the Osage Bow.  Should be fling some arrows with it tomorrow.

Thanks
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 20, 2018, 01:21:23 PM
Close to done with finish.  One more coat and it should be done.  Then a leather grip wrap and string.  Should be flinging arrows in a couple days.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 20, 2018, 01:25:55 PM
I will say that this bows sister is getting shot a lot and those little cracks show no sign of changes.  I have quite a few ASL styles to choose from but its looking like TG1 will be going into the elk woods on opening morning!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 20, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
That looks pretty quick, Mike.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 20, 2018, 11:49:50 PM
Thanks, Roy.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 24, 2018, 04:41:11 PM
7 days left to ship folks!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 24, 2018, 11:10:10 PM
Only 4 left. I had one ask for confirmation of shipping address, hoping he confirms actual shipment soon. I had another confirm shipment, so someone should be seeing a long package show up before long. We're getting close!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 26, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
I'm having stutters and difficulty with the finish.  Had it at good but decided to go for better and ended up worse.  It's a drag having to put sandpaper to a finish job.  :banghead:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 26, 2018, 05:39:59 PM
I know that feeling. Perfection is the enemy of good enough...
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on July 26, 2018, 06:46:08 PM
A package just arrived!  Sacred mt. just sent me a beautiful osage selfbow, D-shaped profile with an ambidextrous handle.  I'm very excited to start shooting this thing.  I'll get some pictures up soon -- hopefully tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: YosemiteSam on July 27, 2018, 01:20:24 PM
Well, this bow is a shooter.  It's ambidextrous, which is great for me since I enjoy shooting both sides of the bow.  It flings a 600 gr arrow with some speed.

And talk about some finishing touches -- the Bolivian Rosewood tips, leather handle, sock and stringer all included.  The string was also very well done -- very clean, unlike the stuff that I make.  Luckily, I had some arrows that spine around 25#, which happen to fly great out of this bow.  I'm really going to enjoy this bow.  If I don't take it out for deer, I may yet give it a go for a winter pig hunt.  It pulls about 50# at my draw and is 62" long -- perfect for me.

I took it outside to fling a few arrows in our summer heat.  My wife saw me outside & made a point to come out to tell me how cool she thought the bow looked at full draw.  She usually rolls her eyes at my hobbies, archery being no exception.  So, Sacred mt, to have impressed her, you did some fine work!

Thank you, Sacred mt, for this awesome selfbow!  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 27, 2018, 02:34:36 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on July 28, 2018, 06:36:50 AM
That’s a nice lookin stick!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 29, 2018, 06:44:29 PM
I'm finally ok with the finish, but just ok!  I'm letting it rest before putting the handle wrap on.  Should be able to meet the grace period deadline.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 30, 2018, 11:47:01 AM
Handle wrap is on and a good fit.  I really enjoy doing a handle wrap.

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Had to do this project indoors. While I was out of town a pair of robins set up housekeeping on my patio light fixture.  They layed four eggs two of which hatched.  As soon as they hatched dad became Super aggressive and dive bombs constantly.  He has hit me in the back of the head three times!  That's no way to treat the landlord.

Be glad when they are gone.  It's taking all of my better side and the better half to keep me from a rude eviction.

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 30, 2018, 12:23:30 PM
He who dances with birds!

I always knew you wasn't quite right, Mike.

 :laughing:

Bow looks very nice.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on July 30, 2018, 01:49:05 PM
Your bow looks awesome! 

As far as the birds, borrow a cat.....  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on July 30, 2018, 03:24:29 PM
Funny you should say that.  Yesterday I found a dead and very torn up squirrel in the backyard.  Today a big rough looking cat jumped into the yard and trotted straight to where the squirrel had been. 

Maybe he will find a feathered meal.  :biglaugh:

Roy, I only have to be right 51% of the time. :)

Made a string while the wrap was drying then ran a few arrows through it.  Shoot pretty well considering it has no nocking point.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on August 01, 2018, 11:46:23 AM
Bow is shipped.  Might take a while to get there.  It has a long way to go.

Still to come are pictures of my grandson Josh with his new bow built by Canopyboy.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on August 01, 2018, 10:06:38 PM
Word is another was shipped as well. Confirming the final bow, I know it was all hit shipped. Once that confirmation comes in, we’re finsjed shipping and just waiting on receiving these last bows.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on August 01, 2018, 11:09:37 PM
Looking forward to seeing a tube show up on the porch. It’ll be like Christmas. Since I work nights, I’ll wake up, look out the window and hopefully see a tube leaning against the door.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 03:25:11 PM
Looking forward to seeing a tube show up on the porch. It’ll be like Christmas. Since I work nights, I’ll wake up, look out the window and hopefully see a tube leaning against the door.

Kyle

Me too.  I feel like a little kid on Christmas eve..... ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 07:41:10 PM
Well, what a pleasant surprise!

When I arrived home from work today I was greeted by a package sent all the way from the distant northern land of Arvada, Colorado!  Inside, I found this stunning example of craftsmanship from another Colorado fella, Mr. Mike Lee.

 :goldtooth:

(http://i.imgur.com/pAQxLdP.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 07:42:24 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vDFt16y.jpg)

This thing is beautiful!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 07:43:08 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/DSq2Lw2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 07:43:58 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/VqL7D7F.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 02, 2018, 07:48:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8HiYU0L.jpg)

Shoots well too!

The very first thing I did was set a nock point on the very well crafted string and fling some arrows!  I can only shoot 18 yards at my house, but I'm confident this bow can reach out much farther as long as I do my part.

This is one awesome bow.  From the smooth, silky finish, to the custom leather grip, to the excellent color combination.  I am honored to have it and it will see a lot of use!

Thank You!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on August 02, 2018, 07:54:17 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on August 04, 2018, 07:57:08 AM
There’s one more at least on the mail that should be showing up any day. Keep your eyes open.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on August 04, 2018, 03:31:16 PM
Glad you like it, Craig.  I felt a little apprehensive building a bow for another bowyer with your credentials!  Especially knowing your propensity for curvy bows and fancy riser work.

Looks like you have figured out how to grip it and the target looks great.

That string is B55 so you will want to watch the brace height until it's fully settled in.

Sorry about the rather crude writing on it.  I must have 55 or 60 bucks sunk into looking the "write" stuff (that there is a pun :)  ) and still am not satisfied.  Might try the India ink system.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 05, 2018, 09:26:26 AM
Glad you like it, Craig.  I felt a little apprehensive building a bow for another bowyer with your credentials!  Especially knowing your propensity for curvy bows and fancy riser work.

Looks like you have figured out how to grip it and the target looks great.

That string is B55 so you will want to watch the brace height until it's fully settled in.

Sorry about the rather crude writing on it.  I must have 55 or 60 bucks sunk into looking the "write" stuff (that there is a pun :)  ) and still am not satisfied.  Might try the India ink system.

I love it bud!  It is a very well made bow, and, very different than what I build.  Which makes it fun and interesting.

I use India ink.  After MUCH experimentation, I found that works best.  Usually.  ;)

Thank you again!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on August 05, 2018, 12:32:04 PM
How do you apply the ink?  Do you have special pens?  I'm going to get it "write" once and for all! :)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on August 05, 2018, 01:20:01 PM
How do you apply the ink?  Do you have special pens?  I'm going to get it "write" once and for all! :)

I use an old fashioned quill pen.  They call them calligraphy pens now.  You can get a kit with the pen holder, different tips, and ink for about $20 at Hobby Lobby.

Also, the extra fine tip paint pens work well.  They're cheap, but they seem to only want to work once or twice no matter how well you clean and cap them.  Many different colors, 2-3 bucks a piece.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on August 05, 2018, 02:49:32 PM
The extra fine paint pen is what I used on your bow.  It's okay, but kinda clunky.  Also hard to control.

I'm going to visit hobby lobby tommorow!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on August 05, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
I’m not sure what nib this one is, but it’s the one I like to use. Since it has the resevior I can get all my writin done with one dip. And I like the print size it makes. Which I can adjust with pressure. That bow is the first one I came across in my phone wrote with that nib

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on August 06, 2018, 11:14:03 AM
That looks good!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on August 06, 2018, 01:04:04 PM
Mike, ya gotta get one of those 3 cornered hats the declaration signers wore.  Roy may have one you can borrow... :laughing:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on August 06, 2018, 01:28:30 PM
Yup I gots one...

I wear it every time I add someone's name to the top of the thumpin list..

It's getting worn out, McKenzie..

 :laughing:

Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: John Scifres on August 06, 2018, 02:28:52 PM
Somebody's got a package:

Hello JOHN SCIFRES,

Your item was delivered at the front door or porch at 12:28 pm on August 6, 2018 to A Town, in A State, with a Zipcode.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on August 06, 2018, 07:24:21 PM
I left the house to go to BJJ class and found a white tube from Mr Scifres on my doorstep. I haven’t cracked it open yet to see what’s hiding inside. But I can say that it made it in one piece. Once I get done with class and the gym I’ll pop her open and see what’s waiting. I’ll give an update tonight with pictures tomorrow in the daylight.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on August 07, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
 :campfire:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on August 08, 2018, 04:23:12 PM
Sorry it took me a little bit to get some pictures. I got the full draw pic yesterday, then a buddy stopped by and I forgot to take more until after it was dark.
Overall it’s a good bow. A nice simple Osage bow with flipped tips that throws and arrow well and throws it where I’m looking. There is also a  it in shelf, that is large enoigh to give a solidly repeatable holding point but still feel like shooting off the knuckle. And be here she is.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on August 08, 2018, 04:24:14 PM
Btw. I’ve noticed I need to change my phone holder for taking full draws. It sits a little low, so makes the lower limb look long.

Kyle
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on September 01, 2018, 09:55:35 AM
I just wanted to provide an update. The last bow has been stuck in the customs warehouse in Istanbul for a couple of weeks now, waiting on clearance to proceed the rest of the way to Ink. I'm hoping this gets resolved soon so that Ink gets his bow and we can say that this swap has been completed, with 100% of bows shipped and received.

So to repeat, we have had 100% of bows shipped and soon will have 100% of bows received! Well done to all participants. Most bows were shipped by the deadline, and all except the bow to Ink were shipped by the end of the grace period. Ink's bow was ready earlier, but the shipping to Turkey took a little more work than we anticipated and the comms have been very good as we worked through it. Thanks to those that helped on that front!

Once the last bow is received, I'll post up a summary of who received from who, etc. Stay tuned!

-Dave

 :archer2:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on September 01, 2018, 10:03:31 AM
thanks to you dave! :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: monterey on September 01, 2018, 08:12:16 PM
You did a great job Dave.  I feel like new life has been breathed into a swap that was at risk of going away.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 02, 2018, 05:19:11 AM
Yes Dave did a fantastic job.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: C. Johnson on September 02, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
Yes, thank you Dave!

This was my first time doing the swap.  I had a great time and I'm looking forward to doing it again next year!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on September 02, 2018, 11:20:41 AM
Well, thanks to y’all there looks to be a next year. Well done all.
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: jsweka on September 03, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
 :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:

Well done Dave!
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: kennym on September 04, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: mwosborn on September 04, 2018, 05:33:43 PM
Great to see - good year guys!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: canopyboy on September 19, 2018, 04:47:37 PM
I have received word that THE 2018 ANNUAL BOW SWAP IS COMPLETE!!!

Well done all!  :clapper:

(More to come...)
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 19, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
Thanks Dave.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: 4 point on September 19, 2018, 10:44:32 PM
Thanks for the work you put into this Dave. 
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: inksoup on September 24, 2018, 08:14:41 AM
i guess, i am the last man!
here is the beauty of this year. it just fit on my hand like my arm's extension. enjoyed to play with her :)
thank you mate...

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Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 24, 2018, 11:55:36 AM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2018 Annual Bow Swap Progress Thread
Post by: soy on September 24, 2018, 04:11:10 PM
Glad it got to you...sorry for the delay :archer2: