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Title: Handle Separation
Post by: LaBill67 on September 04, 2017, 04:43:00 PM

Guys I need some help and advice.  I have recently had two bows were the handle has separated.  The attached photo is of the most recent one.  The handle on this hickory backed hickory has begun to separate where the riser joins the bow below the arrow pass.  I would like to save this bow if I can.  Would removing it and after tacking the back down flush with the limbs then attaching a thin piece of hickory that extends beyond the riser about 5 or 6 inches help retain the handle?  Any suggestions for future builds that will alleviate this problem will be helpful.  (http://https://imgur.com/CnSksxo)

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: LaBill67 on September 04, 2017, 04:45:00 PM

Hopefully this will show the photos.
  https://imgur.com/CnSksxo
 https://imgur.com/PizXLYw
 https://imgur.com/a/sDucT

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Mad Max on September 04, 2017, 07:12:00 PM

You need to learn how to do your riser.
all you need is 4" for your hand grip area.
your fades need to be longer and FADE into the riser, a angle like this \\_______/ is no good.
Read this first page about fades
   http://poorfolkbows.com/ipe1.htm  
I cant get a picture to load at this time

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: LaBill67 on September 04, 2017, 08:37:00 PM

Thanks Max.

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 04, 2017, 08:51:00 PM

Taper the end of riser longer.

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: BMorv on September 05, 2017, 09:51:00 AM

If you pick one of the methods described in Mad Max's link, you shouldn't have any problems.  Lately I've been using a power lam described in the 1st method on the link, and that allows you to get by with a smaller handle, which I find looks better.  The last method described in the link is probably the strongest.  If I was concerned at all about the handle I would make sure the fade runs into the belly wood a decent amount like in the photo.
      (http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q488/bmorvant1/IMG_1388_zps4kubgspo.jpg)

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Mad Max on September 05, 2017, 02:30:00 PM

I'am sure your next bow will turn out better.

If your not sure about something else, just ask.

   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 05, 2017, 03:31:00 PM

Yup just ask, Mad Maxi boy is always asking me for advice...      :laughing:

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Mad Max on September 05, 2017, 04:45:00 PM

Yea,Roy I have a question
Is it possible to synthesize excited bromide in an argon matrix?

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 05, 2017, 08:22:00 PM

Yes, it's an excimer, frozen in its excited state.

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: mwosborn on September 05, 2017, 09:54:00 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Yes, it's an excimer, frozen in its excited state.

OMG - I have to get my muck boots on...gettin deep here!    :eek:

Title: Re: Handle Separation
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 06, 2017, 07:00:00 AM

That's nuffen, Mitch...  :)