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Title: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 22, 2017, 03:27:00 AM
Hi guys,
did a glue up yesterday night on my 4th bow. It will be 2 piece takedown, bocote/wenge riser with white fiberglass and padouk accent stripes and B&W ebony veneers and bamboo cores. It wiill be my first where I ground all the lams myself. Riser has 1/4 inch black G10 fiberglass I beam.

Dry run
   (http://i.imgur.com/BLSn207h.jpg)
   (http://i.imgur.com/W1UIQw2h.jpg)
fades looking good
   (http://i.imgur.com/qSMBOfJh.jpg)
ready for glue up
   (http://i.imgur.com/AbiCsFnl.jpg)
all covered with smooth on
   (http://i.imgur.com/8BBF1Pjh.jpg)
in the oven
   (http://i.imgur.com/UxXOuTUh.jpg)
this morning - glue lines looking good
   (http://i.imgur.com/DpGyUwQh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 22, 2017, 05:31:00 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Mad Max on June 22, 2017, 08:05:00 AM
what kind of wood is that form made of?

Sound's like it's going to be a Looker.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Bodork on June 22, 2017, 08:13:00 AM
I'd hate to cut that in half!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 22, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
It is made od water resistant plywood. Yeah it scares the hell out of me to cut it in half. But I will do it anyway. It will be the socket system that Big Jim uses. I Hope it will be a looker, bu I'm bit afraid how clear is the fiberglass going to be. It is made by Bearpaw, but I have it for a while so I'm not sure if it is the new one that Is supposed to ve wery good.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: matiass on June 22, 2017, 01:00:00 PM
Excuse me Kristalik, can you tell me the thickness of the lams you are using? are you using tapered lams? thanks!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 22, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
Hi Matiass, stack is: 2x 0.060" parallel veneer, 0.095" 0.002 taper,  0.060" 0.001 taper, 2x0.040" fiberglass for total stack of 0.355" shooting for 64" 45# draw weight. It Is Kennym design.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 23, 2017, 01:28:00 AM
All cleaned up
 (http://i.imgur.com/S8QudELh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/ZaQSjVgh.jpg)
there are some small streaks in the glass, but not too bad
 (http://i.imgur.com/i1Gmfghh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/e7VAyMBh.jpg)
cut to profile
 (http://i.imgur.com/iqhk25ch.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/UbYPPZPh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 23, 2017, 05:10:00 AM
Looks good. I have done a few of the take downs like you plan here. You will want at least .250 riser overlay on the front of the bow. This should be enough to keep from going through the glass when you relieve material for the glass wrap.
 (http://i.imgur.com/yxqDEvk.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 23, 2017, 05:16:00 AM
Another tip to is when you wrap go right up to where your shelf will be on the part with a couple of layers that is not relieved. This will give a good transition when you shape the grip.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 23, 2017, 05:46:00 AM
Thank you very much for the tips. I have a question, do you think it will be OK to use good quality CA glue for overlay, or should I use smooth on. I nedd to finish it in few days before I go for vacation (I need to take it with me, this bow is for a friend), so I dont want to wait fo the smooth on to cure.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 23, 2017, 12:35:00 PM
Smooth on for sure on the riser overlays. I use CA on tip overlays.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kennym on June 23, 2017, 12:53:00 PM
Looking good so far!!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 25, 2017, 11:54:00 PM
Got some work done yesterday. Rougly shaped the how
 (http://i.imgur.com/IdpwweHh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/NNn0hq1h.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/R3J6nmWh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/Tg3EGMWh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/pROqqQkh.jpg)
Ready to ne cut in half
 (http://i.imgur.com/jclGH8Ih.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/ynRXs3Eh.jpg)
CUT   :banghead:
 (http://i.imgur.com/YGD4cGIh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: bigbob2 on June 26, 2017, 02:10:00 AM
Looking very nice! and no turning back now!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Roy from Pa on June 26, 2017, 08:14:00 AM
That bow is very nice.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: matiass on June 26, 2017, 10:31:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kristalik:
Hi Matiass, stack is: 2x 0.060" parallel veneer, 0.095" 0.002 taper,  0.060" 0.001 taper, 2x0.040" fiberglass for total stack of 0.355" shooting for 64" 45# draw weight. It Is Kennym design.
Thanks!!!! It'looks great!!!!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kennym on June 26, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
Cool!! Lovin it!!(cause I didn't cut it)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 26, 2017, 12:16:00 PM
Thank guys. Done some more work on it yesterday.
Clamped up
  (http://i.imgur.com/qHQoKfwh.jpg)
First layer of glass and then carbon
 (http://i.imgur.com/eagfUCsh.jpg)
This morning
 (http://i.imgur.com/uJkls1xh.jpg)
I have to add some more fiberglass on the bottom of the handle. I couldn't finish it in one go, because my epoxy started to set on me, it was over 89°F.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 27, 2017, 03:11:00 PM
Added more fiberglass, should be enough now. Tomorrow I will see if it comes apart. Fingers crossed.
 (http://i.imgur.com/RYFXznBh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 27, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
That is the beauty of this system. If they happen not to come apart you still have a bow.  :scared:     :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Bodork on June 27, 2017, 08:54:00 PM
That made my heart stop!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 28, 2017, 09:22:00 AM
Ok guys, made some progress this morning, because I'm off work today And for next two weeks.

Glued on tip overlays, same as everywhere on the bow, white black white g10, then strip of bocote and wenge. I used CA for this
   (http://i.imgur.com/SK50NdFh.jpg)
same on the belly side of riser
   (http://i.imgur.com/i8KfQ58h.jpg)
Tips rougly shaped
   (http://i.imgur.com/1CnLK5lh.jpg)
Sight window cut and riser rougly shaped
   (http://i.imgur.com/6iXydeth.jpg)
   (http://i.imgur.com/C8pKbMKh.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/e4hS4dYh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 28, 2017, 09:26:00 AM
Got it braced and I just had to shoot one arrow. Shoots smooth and quiet. I think that braced profile looks good. I might tweak it a little later on.
 (http://i.imgur.com/ZaeV4mnh.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on June 28, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
Ok here it is, after 10 minutes od wrestling with it, I heard the two alignment pins snap and it came apart.   :biglaugh:  
 (http://i.imgur.com/0hoJvfhh.jpg)
it took a lot more force than I thought.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kennym on June 28, 2017, 11:53:00 AM
Excellent!! I'm going to have to do one of these!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Trux Turning on June 28, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
Cool- it's looking good!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: BMN on June 28, 2017, 01:11:00 PM
very nice
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: monterey on June 28, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
Very nice   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 28, 2017, 11:47:00 PM
Looks good. The other tip I forgot to mention is using a computhane dead blow hammer and hitting the wrap supported on your table top a couple of good blows. This will make the fiberglass move a little and helps get things moving better.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: PV on June 29, 2017, 04:27:00 PM
Looking good!!
I clamp a "C" clamp(padded) to the bottom limb riser and give it a tap with a dead blow hammer
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Holm-Made on June 30, 2017, 12:08:00 AM
On stubborn ones that won't come apart, I have used a heat gun to heat it up good and it will release.  Chad
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: kristalik on July 04, 2017, 02:34:00 PM
Ok, some finished pics
 (http://i.imgur.com/JTk1eFah.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/UAysefXh.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/KTxAz91h.jpg)

 (http://i.imgur.com/2rUS9Ckh.jpg)
And the money shot
 (http://i.imgur.com/r2kvIf9h.jpg)
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 04, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
Looks really good. Nice shootin britches    :eek:     :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Trux Turning on July 04, 2017, 08:12:00 PM
Way cool! That's a beauty.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: BrushWolf on July 04, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: bigbob2 on July 05, 2017, 02:25:00 AM
That is a great result!Very nice.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Mad Max on July 05, 2017, 08:43:00 AM
Turned out nice
I don't know if I could cut one
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Buemaker on July 05, 2017, 05:30:00 PM
Looks very good.
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: Bodork on July 06, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
Good job!
Title: Re: 2 piece takedown D/R build - finished pics pg.3
Post by: on July 07, 2017, 12:38:00 AM
Sweet... excellent job...  I gots to make me one of those...