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Title: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 24, 2017, 07:58:00 PM

Tried some with maple and walnut. Resawed and ground nicely down to .030. Did not take flexing at all. I realize once they are glued up in a limb they will be fine. But very fragile. Any thoughts ? used smooth on and 30% cut.
     (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/crookedstic/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170524_073151_zpsto2yqdu8.jpg)  
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/crookedstic/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/20170524_073754_zpspwswxbuj.jpg)

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 24, 2017, 09:07:00 PM

Bummer
I think maybe
if you would have put some stripes in there it would help.
spread the load out?
I have done 45* cut with 3 stripes.

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 24, 2017, 09:08:00 PM

Bummer
I think maybe
if you would have put some stripes in there it would help.
spread the load out?
I have done 45* cut with 3 stripes.

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Bvas on May 24, 2017, 10:17:00 PM

Here's my theory.  And take it for the 2 cents it's worth.
You are basically inducing twist in the veneers at the splice. Although both are good bow woods, they come from opposite ends of the flexibility range.
Once encased in glass it would probably not be noticed. But a V splice would eliminate the twist.
The better question is.....which wood goes to the tips?  Walnut to keep them lighter or maple to keep them stiffer?

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kennym on May 25, 2017, 08:28:00 AM

Brad brings up a good point on inducing twist . That can be countered by making sure the back and belly lams are opposite , forming an x with the splices. I would lengthen the splice. I have a long lazy s splice I've used, they are pretty strong that way .

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 25, 2017, 09:28:00 AM

Yeah a flatter angle would give more surface.

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: mikkekeswick on May 25, 2017, 11:59:00 AM

Yes make the splice longer.
how did you prep the glued surfaces of the splice?

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kcbrown on May 25, 2017, 06:19:00 PM

I think you need to lengthen the splice for sure. Thinner the veneer the better too. Good start Mike!!

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 25, 2017, 11:06:00 PM

Got some curing now with longer splice and a different glue.

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 26, 2017, 02:52:00 PM

These seem to be a lot better.
 (http://i.imgur.com/5BqXGAn.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/aB1xdCX.jpg)

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 26, 2017, 06:15:00 PM

Nice

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kcbrown on May 27, 2017, 11:47:00 AM

Looks good Mike, I measured mine and it is 4" on the diagonal on a 1.5" wide limb

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 28, 2017, 09:01:00 PM

Results.
   (http://i.imgur.com/MuNKyuK.jpg)   (http://i.imgur.com/KnHh7WK.jpg)

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 28, 2017, 09:24:00 PM

nice

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kcbrown on May 30, 2017, 05:32:00 PM

Pretty cool, looks good

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2017, 07:04:00 PM

Mike
show us more when you finish.
   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 30, 2017, 08:01:00 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/SM71tZC.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/yMJ2AeB.jpg)
Getting closer.

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on May 30, 2017, 08:51:00 PM

Oh man
I really like it

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 03, 2017, 10:02:00 AM

The tips--
   (http://i.imgur.com/kWFWdrG.jpg)

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kcbrown on June 03, 2017, 11:04:00 AM

Like it Mike, hard to beat curly maple

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Mad Max on June 03, 2017, 11:27:00 AM

yep

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: kennym on June 03, 2017, 12:27:00 PM

SWEET!!

Title: Re: spliced veneers
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 03, 2017, 03:12:00 PM

Thanks. Here is a shot of the finished riser. Trying a different finish. I will see how it holds up and talk about it later. Most satins look more glossy to me and this one actually looks satin.
 (http://i.imgur.com/Zor99ki.jpg)