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Title: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 17, 2016, 02:12:00 PM
Fiber glass bow
One of my washer held up the glass on the back of the bow 9" from the nock.

I could probably dig some of that out, not much
I want to put it back on the form (the belly is on the form, the hose is on the back of the bow) and use a piece of wood 3/16" thick and clamp it down on the hump and use a heat gun. ?????

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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 17, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
LOL. Just fix it. Grind it out with a dremel tool and finesse it back down. What else can you do??  I can't leave you alone for one day without ya messing something up..  :)
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: beachbowhunter on November 17, 2016, 03:58:00 PM
Most of it will go once you profile the limbs won't it?
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: BenBow on November 17, 2016, 04:20:00 PM
It appears that the joint between the two wood lams was affected too. It depends on how much of the width of the limb is affected. I'd mark out the limb profile on the limb and see if I could adjust the profile to take out as much as possible then see how bad or good it looked. You've got nothing to lose and some bow building experience to gain. Also you should always loosen and move the washers away from your limb after adding air pressure to prevent this from happening but I'm sure you've figured that out.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: kennym on November 17, 2016, 04:43:00 PM
I like the h eat idea, but be very careful with the heat gun, it can kill yer glass.

Can you grind it within a bit of profile and put the hose and all back on, then back on oven? I've reheated lammed risers when I glued up one pc bows with no probs but never reheated limbs.


Grinding to profile mi h t be a risk if you think it might slide too....
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Wagstaff on November 17, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
Here's hoping that will mostly be reduced when you profile that part of your limb..  

I'd be hesitant to put a heat gun on that glass.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Bowjunkie on November 17, 2016, 05:01:00 PM
I'd lay the pattern on that limb, cut/grind it, shape it, smooth it, and see if it disappears. it may. If not, I'd scrap it and start over. I wouldn't piss around with a dremel in there or a heat gun... but that's just me.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 17, 2016, 05:11:00 PM
The limb is at width
when I saw it I thickness sanded all on that side.

The limb is 1.4 wide and the hump goes 1/4" across the limb.
I think the heat gun is my only option. has anybody tried the heat gun?
I can gouge out very little  
The cores have just a little more glue between them on that side.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 17, 2016, 05:19:00 PM
I cooked it at 180
If I put it back on the form and a piece of wood over the hump, inflate the hose and cook it at a higher temp.
will that work?
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: jess stuart on November 17, 2016, 05:52:00 PM
I am with Bowjunkie, it isn't worth having it blow up in your face.  I would never feel comfortable shooting it and could probably never develop any trust in it.  That being said you might be able to warm some smooth on up until it get real watery and wick it in and clamp it down.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: kennym on November 17, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
Mark, that is what I would try, but not sure about the pc of wood.

I wouldn't let anybody else have it or shoot it....
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: kennym on November 17, 2016, 08:03:00 PM
P S .... I did that before too...  :D
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: on November 17, 2016, 11:42:00 PM
Doesn't seem like there is a whole lot you can do but to chalk it up to experience...  Happened to me to...  Finish up the bow and call her a loaner... And warn the person to shoot at own risk...  It will probably be ok  if it is lighter weight bow...
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: mikkekeswick on November 18, 2016, 02:46:00 AM
Heat won't soften the glue without ruining the glass. Remember that the glass is just a bunch of fibers held together by glue.....
Personal shooter only. I would get some nocks cut in, finish the profile then pull the heck out of it on the tiller board.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 18, 2016, 05:55:00 AM
I would just cut it up. No sense taking a chance.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Bowjunkie on November 18, 2016, 08:31:00 AM
Yep. Chop it up. Start another right away. It'll only bother ya for a minute or two. Consider it another lesson learned.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: on November 18, 2016, 09:24:00 AM
Don't do that... If you are thinking to trash it and if it is under 40#..., send it to me with a few details on how you would finish it...  I'll give $40 plus shipping...   Or I'll trade you for some materials... Riser wood or glass...  I make my own glass and have some cool colors and I have plenty of Sheoak...
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 18, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
I did this way yesterday before I posted and had no limb twist so I think it will be OK

Thanks for the info
we will see how it goes.
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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: on November 18, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Awww  Chit!!!    :)
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 21, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
This is a Binghams 60" 1 piece recurve.
I made it 1-1/2" wide with a .260 stack, shooting for 35# or less, It came out 40#.

I got most of the glue joint tighter, narrowed the tips and put a string on it, all seems good.
no limb twist     :)    

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Glued on the under riser part.
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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 21, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
40#..? Heck ya may as well send it too me ole timer..   :)
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: LittleBen on November 23, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
Maybe I e lost it but I think that bow would be totally fine with that lump.

That section would be extremely stiff. Also Binghams recurve uses not taper in the limb, so the outer limbs tend to be very stiff anyway.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on November 23, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
I put a clear coat on today, all finished
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on December 04, 2016, 06:32:00 PM
I never was a big fan of the Coreflex/Superaction
wood, and I'am still not
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Black fiber glass on the belly of the riser to cover up some of the coreflex stripes
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Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: bigbob2 on December 05, 2016, 04:24:00 AM
I like it!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: on December 05, 2016, 07:26:00 AM
Nice.!!   Like the look of your overlay on the riser...
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on December 05, 2016, 07:56:00 PM
Thanks guy's
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Trenton G. on December 05, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Looks really nice!
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: LittleBen on December 05, 2016, 09:35:00 PM
I've never been a huge actionwood fan, but I really like the way that turned out.

Nice job.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 06, 2016, 04:28:00 AM
Looks nice, Mark.
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: BenBow on December 06, 2016, 10:27:00 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: HELP HELP HELP All Finished
Post by: Mad Max on December 06, 2016, 04:12:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by LittleBen:
I've never been a huge actionwood fan, but I really like the way that turned out.

Nice job.
I guess it's OK

Thanks guy's