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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Bubbadooz on April 29, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
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I've never owned a bandsaw or built a bow so I'm not sure what size bandsaw I may need and I need help fast. Two saws are on sale til tomorrow at different places. One is a 12" 2/3hp for $599 the other is a 10" 1/3 hp for $319. Obviously I'd rather spend less if the smaller saw if it will suffice but I will spent the extra dough if bow building requires a more powerful saw. I have no clue so any help or advice will be appreciated.
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Some Grizzlys are on sale, I'd get at least a 14" saw.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/14-1-HP-Bandsaw-Polar-Bear-Series/G0555P?utm_campaign=zPage
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You can get a 14 inch 1 hp Grizzly for $445 plus shipping, US dollars..
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Between the 2 you have listed..the 12" would likely be the better choice..
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Thanks guys. I had actually orderd a Grizzly about a month ago but had to cancel my order. It was a huge hassle to have em ship one to Canada dealing with customs freight charges tailgate services etc... really jacked the price up in a hurry. I'm currently looking at the General international brand here in Canada. I too was leaning more towards the 12". I think I will be happier with it in the long run.
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Sorry you had a bad experience with shipping the Grizzly.
Are you looking at the 90-040 M1? That one looks like a nice saw, 0.67 hp is better than 1/2 hp. I have had good luck buying good used equipment off of Craigslist.
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Yeah the 90-040 M1 is the the one I had my eye on. I also was going to checkout Kijiji for used band saws but for some reason I just always feel better buying new.
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Bubbadooz, I live in Cambridge and I found it cheaper to order a Grizzly and have it delivered than buy a similar saw for what they want here- even with the exchange rate.
Dave.
P.s. there are a lot of good used tools out there. Don't be afraid to buy used. (my 2 cents) :)
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I wouldn't go smaller than a 14 inch saw. I have a delta and a rigid. Both were picked up on CL for under $100. I did repaint both and add new guides and ureathane tires. They are simple machines, not a lot to go wrong. The delta now looks and runs like a new machine.
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Ok so I found a Used 14" Delta online I'm going to have a look at. Like I said I've never owned one before so what should I look for to see if it's a good buy(bow building worthy)?
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Buy it.
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Ask to see it run. Look at the guide bearings. If they need replacing, you might get it at a lower price.
Dave.
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Here's a used 16" delta for $400 any thoughts on this? Is it worth it / a good deal? (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah62/Bubbadooz3/Mobile%20Uploads/F38FD6A5-2A5D-40A0-B5AB-8FE1F73F37A5.png_zps2qrlhyzb.jpeg) (http://[URL=http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Bubbadooz3/media/Mobile%20Uploads/F38FD6A5-2A5D-40A0-B5AB-8FE1F73F37A5.png_zps2qrlhyzb.jpeg.html) ]Photo bucket [/URL]
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That's too much...
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That's more like a 10" saw than a 16" saw, it has a tiny little motor as well. I would pass on that one.
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Thanks For the input. I thought it was priced too high as well. I seen another one. It was a Toolex 14" looked like really good condition for $200. Only thing was from my research it seemed like getting spare parts would be hard considering they don't produce that model anymore and the company is from Australia. Has anyone on here even heard of this brand or have any experience with it? This is the last one I'm considering. If this one don't seem like a buyer I'm just gonna buy new.
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the problem with those 3 wheel saws- is that the wheels are smaller than say a 14" saw, so the radius the blade needs to bend around is smaller- and that plays heck on blades- blades will fracture and crack quicker than a bigger wheeled saw- especially at the blade welds.
also the smaller diam. limits as too how thick a blade you can run- now not wider but actual thickness measured in thou. eg a 14 " saw wont like an .035 blade much- they will prefer an .025 blade- the thicker blades will fracture. you need a 16 to run 035 blades
the thicker blade helps with stability in the cut- really important if you are going to do a little resawing for some projects etc.
i would buy a minimum of a 14" or bigger.
check out the busy bee saws- not the best- its chinese stuff- but for the average home workshop they are pretty good value. but before i bought a new craftex from busy bee- i would buy a good solid used machine.
oh and like everyone says get one with enough jam- niothing worse than the machine lugging down.
i am kinda addicted to bandsaws- i use mine for everything- dont have a table saw.
i have a delta 14" a craftex 14, a craftex 16. a bigger 22 incher and have a brute coming that runs a 5" wide blade on it- with a 15hp motor, i think it has 3' wheels- fugger that will cut lams for my bows ok! thats iffin i ever get the chance to get near my bow shop again- and ever even think about building another bow :(
you can never own enough bandsaws- nice to have them all set up with different blades- for different uses.
good luck- keep a-lookin you will find something!
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http://www.busybeetools.com/products/band-saw-14in-deluxe-craftex-cx-series-csa-cx104.html
this is the same wheel size just a bit more skookhum
http://www.busybeetools.com/products/ultimate-bandsaw-14in-craftex-cx-series-cx100.html
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I have a general international 10" and it works fine for bowyering. The key is having the right blades for what you want to do so you don't burn out the motor. I use a 14 12 bimetel when I cut glass. And a 3tpi when I'm working with wood. Never had a issue.
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I had a three wheel Delta just like that one. $400 is way too much for it, and it will drive you crazy breaking blades.
If you're not in a rush, I would say keep looking at kijiji. You're bound to find something good there.
Wayne, I'm sooo jealous! ;) I love my big Grizz. I would have ordered a bigger one but space is an issue where I work (play).
Dave.
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i will gloat and post pics of the big boy when it gets here Dave :D
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Thanks for all the info everyone. I couldn't settle for anything used on Kijiji. A few times I seen something I liked but it was already sold and before I have to spend my money on bills I put it towards a new General 12" 2/3 hp bandsaw. I also feel at ease buying new. Hopefully one day I'll get over my weird fear of buying used. But anyway I pick it up in a cpl weeks. Based on my research and info from all you friendly ppl I feel happy with my purchase. It's not a grossly undersized saw and I'm not spending close to $1000 on a saw I've never used before. So thanks again everyone for helping me along the way. Maybe once I get building I can do a build along and hopefully help someone else.
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Here's a pic of my soon to be first bandsaw! Is it wrong to say I'm almost as excited as when My first son was born! (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah62/Bubbadooz3/Mobile%20Uploads/871D56B0-A66D-49C9-91D0-970A222BC6D4.png_zpsncluxlcb.jpeg) (http://[URL=http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Bubbadooz3/media/Mobile%20Uploads/871D56B0-A66D-49C9-91D0-970A222BC6D4.png_zpsncluxlcb.jpeg.html) ]Photobucket [/URL]
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:thumbsup: :archer:
Dave.
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I just noticed. The saw in the picture looks like it has the fence mounted backwards. :o :)
Dave.
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Nice!
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Just picked up my new toy tonight! Feeling a lot like a kid at Christmas right now! (http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah62/Bubbadooz3/Mobile%20Uploads/58CC1DF2-CA78-4675-8A9D-68AC090D96A4_zpsv9n3ldaw.jpg) (http://[URL=http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Bubbadooz3/media/Mobile%20Uploads/58CC1DF2-CA78-4675-8A9D-68AC090D96A4_zpsv9n3ldaw.jpg.html) ]Photobucket [/URL]
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I haven't thoroughly looked it over yet. I still have to square it all up before cutting. It looks like I'm not able to put a riser block on it which isn't a huge deal. Not sure if that's just an option for higher end saws. Also not a huge deal but it's welded right to the stand. I just assumed it was bolted on for removal. Perhaps if you wanted to build your own stand to suit your needs. Needless to say Im happy so far and I'm sure I'll be happy with its performance once I get using it. Thanks for all the help and input everyone. Looking forward to starting my first bow soon!
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Well after setting up my new saw I must say I was quite disappointed! I turned the thing on for the first time and the work table shook quite violently! To the point where I'd say it's unsafe to use! So I did a bunch of research and I come to realize while I bought the floor model the the blade must've been under tension for who knows how long. The top wheel seemed to be out of balance and the tires both had numerous flat spots on them. So a long story short I returned it and bought a different bandsaw altogether still in the box. I'll post a pic soon.
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(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah62/Bubbadooz3/Mobile%20Uploads/48126846-0F00-4CCD-B87B-1A2FCDFC033C_zpshydhr9tv.jpg) (http://[URL=http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Bubbadooz3/media/Mobile%20Uploads/48126846-0F00-4CCD-B87B-1A2FCDFC033C_zpshydhr9tv.jpg.html) ]Photo bucket [/URL]
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14" king industria , able to put a riser on, 3speeds, more power, waaaay better blade guides and best of all little to no vibration! Passes the nickel test with ease.
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*industrial
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Congrats on the new saw, looks like the JET and Delta style saws.
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i have that exact saw- it works really well!
well done!
:thumbsup:
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More power, better guides...awesome!