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Title: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 21, 2016, 03:26:00 PM
Has anyone made selfbows with hickory heartwood?

Yesterday I split a short hickory log and ended up with several belly split billets that are all heartwood. Today I quickly got them to within a growth ring or three and sealed the backs with shellac. They have thin rings, about 1/16" thick.

Anybody have experience with them? All of the hickory selfbows I've made were all sapwood in the limbs.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Sure would be pretty..
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 21, 2016, 07:49:00 PM
Ye ol' triple split.

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jeff_Durnell/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02-21%2019.28.57_zpsgb7tyhwl.jpg)
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 21, 2016, 07:51:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jeff_Durnell/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02-21%2019.30.27_zpsjqb8ufjz.jpg)
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 21, 2016, 07:54:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/Jeff_Durnell/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02-21%2019.30.42_zpshptzm3ft.jpg)
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 21, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
Neat...
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Pat B on February 21, 2016, 10:47:00 PM
Hickory heartwood is more brittle than the sapwood but I've never built a selfbow with hickory heartwood. I assume with a clean back and good tiller there shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Jomohr84 on February 21, 2016, 11:16:00 PM
The heartwood sure has a nice color, but I have never tried using it, would make a beautiful bow though
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 22, 2016, 05:47:00 AM
That's what I've heard as well, Pat. I'll give it a try. If it breaks, I'll switch gears.

Now I'm wishing I would have tried to leave a couple sapwood rings on there. That would have looked nice, a couple sapwood rings and the rest heartwood. It would have looked a little like a yew stave. Especially with these thin rings. Oh well. Too late now.

If the heartwood doesn't work out for selfbows, I could always flatten them and back them with hickory or hard maple.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Pat B on February 22, 2016, 07:48:00 AM
Hickory or  maple would be good backing options.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 22, 2016, 07:52:00 AM
I have, Jeff. It was from a board. To the best of my knowledge it still together. My kid shot it for a year or so, then gave it to a friend. It was very light in physical weight.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 22, 2016, 08:18:00 AM
Good. That's encouraging.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Buemaker on February 22, 2016, 05:43:00 PM
I have made some from boards and could not see any difference from sapwood  hickory. I have also made selfbows that were about half sapwood and half heartwood with the borderline going diagonally through the stave. These Hickory boards were imported here 1960-1970 and were used in ski production. I'm posting a link to a trilam with a thin tapered Hickory heartwood backing.
 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=013196
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Jomohr84 on February 22, 2016, 06:23:00 PM
That is a one dang fine bow Buemaker! Outstanding!    :clapper:
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 23, 2016, 03:55:00 AM
Nice one Bue. That hickory heartwood seems to be handling the tension. How many arrows through it so far?
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Buemaker on February 23, 2016, 04:55:00 AM
Couple of hundreds I guess, winter now so not much shooting outdoors and during tillering on the tree at least that amount ( I never keep count) I do not know which species of Hickory was imported all those years ago,but it is some heavy hard stuff.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 23, 2016, 05:25:00 AM
Very good. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: LittleBen on February 23, 2016, 08:53:00 PM
I've backed with hickory heartwood with no problems as well.

I weight sample of heartwood and sapwood hickory from the same board and the heartwood was like ..85SG the sapwood was much lighter like .70SG.

II've neve made a heartwood selfbow, but I wouldn't hesitate either. I bet you can go a bit more narrow than a sapwood bow.
Title: Re: Hickory heartwood selfbow???
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 24, 2016, 05:41:00 AM
That would be a bonus since I prefer narrower bows.