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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Appalachian hybrid on February 21, 2016, 01:55:00 PM
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Hello all, I'm a long time reader of trad gang. I have learned a lot about bow building from all the knowledgable people who are members here and greatly appreciate the fact they are willing to share all their useful information.
I decided to join today, so keep in mind I am new to this. I have been building bows for some time now and I'm looking for opinions. I build R/D longbows, primarily 60"-64". I have never owned nor shot anything other than my own. I perform draw force curves on all bows I build.
How fast should a R/D longbow shoot? How can I post a picture of my bow and a draw force curve chart on here to get some opinions?
Thanks in advance for any help offered. [email protected]
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Welcome! You need to join an image sharing site like Photobucket or Imgur to post pictures on here as far as I know. You'll probably get more specific info on your bow speed question if you give more info on the type of material you make your bows from. I've seen R/D profile bows made as wooden selfbows, all wood lam bows, and fiberglass bows. Which kind do you make?
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Welcome, Kenny. You'll find a bunch of great folks here. We're glad to have ya.
I make d/r longbows too, though I have never done a FDC chart of one.
Pictures here are kind of a pain. They have to be linked through a hosting site like Photobucket.
In order to post a picture, you have to click down below on where it says "Post Reply", which opens more options than is available in the "Quick Reply" dialog box. Then click on the "Image" tab, and enter the URL of the picture that is offered by your host site. Photobucket is what I use. I hope that helps ya some. Give it a try. Let's see a bow you made!
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i got 170 fps out of my kenny m 64" R/D bow- #50 @ 29" shooting 535 gr arrows
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(http://http://s1044.photobucket.com/user/kennyraynes/library/Mobile%20Uploads?sort=3&page=1)
I'm not certain that this picture uploaded. Will take me a while to get the hang of this.
The bow I tried to post a picture of has (2) 0.001 per Inch tapered bamboo core covered with splatled/curly maple veneers. The handle is figured walnut. I will add that 100% of the wood is cut by me as well as grinding my parallels and tapers. It's wrapped with 0.040" Gordon's glass front and back. This particular bow is 60" 42 @ 29". Testing with finger release (2 under 1over) with a 455 grain (total weight) I shoot 160 FPS. Speed is not important to me but good arrow flight is. I haven't seen much testing to see how my creations compare to others.
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(http://http://s1044.photobucket.com/user/kennyraynes/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrvqy7sfq.jpeg.html?filters[user]=144755916&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=1)
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(http://s1044.photbucket.com)
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(http://http://s1044.photobucket.com/user/kennyraynes/library/)
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See if this helps...
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=75;t=000478
I have been using imgur.com
Photobucket can be a pain sometimes, so far imgur has been pretty good.
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(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b593/osagemark/878654.png) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/osagemark/media/878654.png.html)
If you get this far
left click the IMG number and when it's blue right click and click copy.
then right click on trad gang (your post) click paste
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(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b593/osagemark/878654.png) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/osagemark/media/878654.png.html)
Got it.. :)
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http://imgur.com/a/w1OQ5
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Nice bow man! Wicked curves, would love to see strung and full draw!
If you do smmething in imgur like click on the small pics, it drops down a screen that lets you post to message boards without showing a link, just shows the pic.
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http://imgur.com/a/uQjHr
I'm still having trouble trying what you suggested posting the picture instead of the link.
In the full draw picture, I notice the tiller looks off on the upper limb. Small stiff spot.
When timing the limbs I really take my time. Perfectly timed limbs seem to me to be extremely smooth on the release with no hand shock. But this particular bow still shows a stiff spot. Drives me crazy but I hate to go further with it due to how quiet and smooth it is!
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Nice bow :thumbsup:
Did you put the two tapers on the face side?
I just tried out tineypic and found it to be easier than photobucket. Ironically, it seems to be owned by photobucket!
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I went back to imgur, signed in and it showed about 9 small pics. I clicked on one and it made it big and by itself. On the right side was 6 choices to share, I clicked on message board and it highlited, then copied it and here we go.
(http://i.imgur.com/9ApHdYW.jpg)
Fill draw looks good from here!
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Photobucket does the same thing, and I never have problems with it. I click on a small picture and it gets bigger, then over to the right are the options and I just click the bottom img link and it's copied. Then if ya wanna scroll through more pictures, just click the arrow on the left or right of the big picture and it goes to the next picture and the options still stay on the right side. Simple...
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This bow has, 0.070 taper on the belly and 0.090 on the back. So far this has been the combo that's offered my design the best cast as well as speed. I've experimented with tip wedges (which I like) and also 0.015 carbon towards the belly side of the stack.
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Really like that riser and those sweet curves. Nice work!
I mostly make wooden bows and am always happy with the rare one that is an overachiever speed wise. But, getting good arrow flight is the main goal for me, too.
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Thanks!!! The wood for the riser came from a walnut that uprooted In my mothers yard. My trouble is every bow I make I fall in love with and hate to let it go!
As for the picture uploads. I'm doing this via Mobile phone. I can click on a small picture, it gets big. Then I click again and it give that little arrow at the bottom. As for share options I have mail, Facebook, and message. Do not see a message board. I'm computer illiterate!
And nothing beats the sight of that arrow like a dart through the air. I love it.
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Pictures from phones is tuff...
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http://i.imgur.com/5xkEkWQ.jpg
Here is my latest, also made from figured walnut. I've also added a draw force curve and would like some opinions on what that chart reflects.
Thanks!
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http://i.imgur.com/UjioiA2.jpg
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(http://m.imgur.com/UjioiA2)
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I tried it too and get that same funny little image thangy.
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Hopefully I'll get the hang of it. In the mean time I'll keep building bows. Or attempting too.
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Really like the bows. Nice work!
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Took me 45 seconds to upload this to photobucket, then paste here.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/5xkEkWQ.jpg)
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That is some beautiful walnut. I wouldn't want to let go of it either. :)
I like your accent strip, too. Is it wood? Phenolic?
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Gettin' pretty hi-tech there, Roy :eek:
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Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Took me 45 seconds to upload this to photobucket, then paste here.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/5xkEkWQ.jpg)
Phone or PC? I haven't got the hang of phone bucket...
Really nice riser!!
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PC
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Looks like one of your glass bows Roy. NICE !!
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The accent strip I used in this one was curly maple. The way I cut and ground it you can't see the first curl as I had planned, but still turned out nice.
And I'm trying with mobile device to upload the pictures. I am very lost when it comes to computer/phone stuff.
And thank you for getting my picture up! Maybe I'll get the hang of it.
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http://i.imgur.com/UjioiA2.jpg
Is it easier on a computer v/s iphone to upload copy and paste a picture?
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I was using a phone with no luck.
If Roy did it on his PC, then anybody can do it. :laughing:
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With only one arm he still has it.
but what is IT :laughing:
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Originally posted by Appalachian hybrid:
http://i.imgur.com/UjioiA2.jpg
Is it easier on a computer v/s iphone to upload copy and paste a picture?
It is sure easier for me on a computer!
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I use an iPad... Go to the pic you want there will be a circle at the bottom of the pic with an i in it,click that and the next page it'll give you the option to chose how to upload the pic... Pick the bottom one IMG after that it should say copied then just past it here. Nice bow by the way! This is a nice blacktail rattler I got last year. I forgot to add this is with photobucket.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/Mobile%20Uploads/3A507DEE-CBBC-4F6B-B077-329A436E0521.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/Flinthunter_bucket/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3A507DEE-CBBC-4F6B-B077-329A436E0521.jpg.html)
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he looks headless- do you skin em?
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Took me only 43 seconds IPad via Photobucket. Nice riser. Beat you by 2 seconds Roy. :bigsmyl:
(http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/timian46/image_zps88fdqbm1.jpeg) (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/timian46/media/image_zps88fdqbm1.jpeg.html)
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Very nice work on the bows! And that draw force curve looks like it's solid shooter.
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Thanks for the compliments on the bows! Nice to hear from people who understands what they are. I have had several people from my are shoot these bows and really like them, but then again their everyday bow is a compound. Hard to compare!
I'm still using imgur for photos, I will give it a try with PC when I can. You guys are in the seconds with posting pictures and I'm still timed in hours with no luck! I'll get it...........eventually
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I cut my own laminations, is there a benefit to carbonized bamboo?
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Originally posted by fujimo:
he looks headless- do you skin em?
Yes sir I've got 2 of them skinned and a think a couple Diamondbacks as well I just haven't had time to work on any bows in a year and a half.
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I just e-mail my pics from my phone or whatever to my photobucket account. I like it cause I don't have to log in to upload and I can do it from another persons phone no prob.
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Re the carbonised 'boo, I don't have any chrono data to back me up but for a given stack I feel the carbonised stuff is slightly faster than the natural stuff.
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I have to agree, I have no data to back what I'm saying but the carbonized seems to have a quicker return than natural. Soon going off what it "feels like" to me.