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Title: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 04, 2015, 08:04:00 AM
I just purchased a hickory stave for my first try at making a selfbow. When the stave arrived the first thing I noticed is that it has a large knot in the center of it where the grip will be on the belly side but I see no signs of it on the back after debarking. Looking at it from both sides it only shows up on one edge about 1/4" from the stave belly. I didn't find much info on the web on dealing with knots in the grip area so what are your thoughts on this. I will know more about what it looks like deeper down after I remove some wood in that area.

Not sure how to post pictures here, do you have to use Photobucket to post them?
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 04, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
I removed about 3/8" from the belly where the knot was and it is now gone so maybe it will work out in the long run.
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: LittleBen on December 04, 2015, 11:36:00 AM
It sound like it will be fine. Post a picture if you need more concrete advice.
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: RedStag5728 on December 04, 2015, 02:04:00 PM
As long as you are planning on making the bow a stiff handle that knot will pose no problem at all, it will add character!

Even if it was in the bending portion of the limb, as long as you leave enough wood flowing around the knot and don't gouge it out too bad it still won't pose a problem. With hickory most of the time you can work the knot as if it wasn't there because hickory is tough wood.

I've got a knot about the size of a quarter in the dead center of one limb about 6" from the fades in the second bow i've made (hickory). I over built the area (left some rings around it), and it's stiff and doesn't bend hardly at all in that area and my bow is still shooting after thousands of shots. However it's performance isn't spectacular (it's 43# at 28"; 40# at my 27" draw and throws a 560 grain arrow (14 gpp) 133 fps on average)
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: Pat B on December 04, 2015, 02:57:00 PM
Knots on the belly aren't as troublesome as knots on the back. I usually don't worry about belly knots unless they are close to the edge.
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 04, 2015, 08:00:00 PM
How do you post pictures here, Photobucket?
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: Pat B on December 04, 2015, 10:39:00 PM
Yes, Photobucket.
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 05, 2015, 06:23:00 AM
First picture is the stave.
Second picture is the knot on the belly.
Third picture is the back opposite the knot after removing the bark.
  (http:// [url=http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Stave.jpg.html] [img]http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Stave.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http:// [url=http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Knot.jpg.html] [img]http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Knot.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http:// [url=http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Back%20of%20knot.jpg.html] [img]http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Back%20of%20knot.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 05, 2015, 06:28:00 AM
#1 after removing 1/2" where the knot was.
#2 after removing to the back of the grip area.
#3 progress yesterday on one limb.
  (http:// [url=http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Knot%20Area.jpg.html] [img]http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Knot%20Area.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Knot%20Area1.jpg) (http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Knot%20Area1.jpg.html)
  (http:// [url=http://s717.photobucket.com/user/8upbowhunter/media/Selfbow/Limb.jpg.html] [img]http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww174/8upbowhunter/Selfbow/Limb.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: Eric Krewson on December 05, 2015, 08:52:00 AM
That isn't a knot, it is just hickory heart wood which is darker than the sapwood back.
Title: Re: Hickory stave with large knot
Post by: 8upbowhunter on December 05, 2015, 10:06:00 AM
Thanks I didn't know that. This is my first attempt at this so I am learning as I go.