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Title: hill style selfbow
Post by: bowberry on October 02, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
I would love to make a hill style selfbow. I did a search that gave frustrating results.Has any one done this lately?  Good dimensions for a hill style? Point me in the right direction?

thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: Pat B on October 02, 2015, 11:17:00 PM
"Hunting The Hard Way" by Howard Hill has dimensions for a Hill style selfbow.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: takefive on October 02, 2015, 11:59:00 PM
Not a selfbow, but Pearl Drums posted a cool hickory/ipe one a while back.

 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=011852#000001
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 03, 2015, 10:48:00 AM
I've since rebuilt the handle. I hated that grip and had to change it. It now has a modern looking long bow pistol grip, laminated with ipe and hickory slats to match the limbs. The rest of the bow is unchanged. Its a real hammer and very well behaved. Just shot it last night.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: takefive on October 03, 2015, 03:53:00 PM
Sounds nice, PD.  I've only made about 20 bows and I'm still looking for that perfect grip.  One thing I've found out is that the ones with the slimmest grips shoot the most consistent for me.  Hopefully I'll get it right on the next one.   :)
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2015, 02:24:00 AM
I believe dimensions for a self bow hill style is in one of the hill books.  It might be one of the old write pamphlets not John or Howards book itself.   I'll have to do a little digging, they are all sitting on my night stand.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 04, 2015, 08:11:00 AM
The needed dimensions will vary greatly depending on your wood selection. Which is?
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Flipped through hthw and the older pamphlet (Howard Hill archer adventures) i referred to and the write up is the same for dimensions.  

I have a complete set of the longbow shooters digest, and a few other old mags, and remember a write up in it as well referring to Howard and selfbow dimensions.  Short of turning my hunting room upside down to find it, it may be awhile before i find it.   Though it does give me an excuse to finish filing the tbm and pa mags i have stacked up around the place lol.    Organization..... Whats that   ;)
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: bowberry on October 05, 2015, 07:25:00 PM
Pearl Drums; I was thinking black locust.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 06, 2015, 09:44:00 AM
I'd go 1.25" wide, 70" ntn for a 28" draw, 3" fades with a 4 or 5" grip depending on your hands. Temper the bow while adding 3" of full limb reflex. You'll love it.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: bowberry on October 06, 2015, 09:47:00 PM
Why would you add reflex? how  would you do that? is the reflex in the handle area, but not near the ends(string nocks)?
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: bowberry on October 06, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
does the back profile taper the whole way on a hill bow? (1 1/4" -> 1/2") kinda like a skinny pyramid bow? or do the limbs go straight for a while and then taper?
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: Pat B on October 06, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
In "Hunting The Hard Way" the selfbow dimensions are 1 1/4" at the center for 4 1/2"(handle) then a straight taper to 1/2" tips. This is for a 6' bow.
Title: Re: hill style selfbow
Post by: bowberry on October 06, 2015, 11:50:00 PM
thank you Pat