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Title: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: mangonboat on September 22, 2015, 08:22:00 AM
I recently acquired a 1961 Herter  birdseye maple 62" recurve that was in good shape overall but I discovered on first draw that the glued joint between the two halves of the riser was separating. There was an original leather wrap-style grip that had to come off to get at the joint to repair it, it didnt come off easy and I ended up stripping the bow down to bare wood and glass.
    Now that I'm contemplating the new finish, I am looking at those tiny limb tips, the size of a small fingernail, with no overlays, and about 3/8ths of material , measured across the tip, holding the string, and I'm thinking that overlays of antler, bone, horn or phenolic would support those tips and I could use a newfangled string. But I have never worked with any of those materials except to saw and drill buttons and never shaped tips, much less overlays. The gluing I can handle but then I'd be in strange waters.
A) Am I making this project too complicated, i.e. should I leave those tips alone? and
B) Are tip overlays a poor choice for a beginner project?
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: Pat B on September 22, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
Tip overlays are a pretty simple undertaking as long as the mating surfaces are well matched. Being that this bow has survived since 1961 without overlays, I see no reason, other than cosmetic, to add overlays.
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: LittleBen on September 22, 2015, 11:35:00 AM
I redid the overlays on an old York recurve with phenolic and it wasn't a big deal.

It's easier to do with 2 thin pieces than 1 thick piece. I used 2 1/16" black phenolic. I've since been shooting the bow with a FF string with no apparent ill effects.

I do agree with Pat though ... In general ...  If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: jess stuart on September 22, 2015, 08:21:00 PM
thin phenolic is the way to go.
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: fujimo on September 23, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
go for it, not necessary, as Pat says, but a cool project to do- makes the bow "yours" and before you know it the virus will have taken a-hold, and youll be building bows   :D
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: LittleBen on September 23, 2015, 07:11:00 PM
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Originally posted by fujimo:
go for it, not necessary, as Pat says, but a cool project to do- makes the bow "yours" and before you know it the virus will have taken a-hold, and youll be building bows    :D  
Lol you're not supposed to tell him he's going to be addicted after one try!
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: fujimo on September 23, 2015, 07:30:00 PM
hi, my names wayne ... and i am a bowaholic...
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: Krasus on September 23, 2015, 09:11:00 PM
That's the first step Wayne.  Except in this case is not a problem  ;)
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: fujimo on September 23, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
:D
Title: Re: Adding tip overlays?
Post by: mangonboat on September 24, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
I ordered a phenolic tip overlay set from 3Rivers, so I guess I'm not going to leave well enough alone.