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Title: the first bow worthy of posting about! :)
Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:38:00 PM
Hey all,

So this is my first build along I've done.  Any feed back would be great!  Big thanks to everyone who helped me along the way.  

So first things first.  I used a solid piece of black walnut for my riser.  My limb lams are hickery (I didn't splice them as I have a 8 ft peeve kicking around). Planned to my desired thicknesses.  I was going for a 45 pound at 28 inch draw.  I used a piece of core tuff to for look.  (http://imgur.com/WgP8Eui)   (http://imgur.com/WgP8Eui)   (http://imgur.com/WgP8Eui)   web page (http://imgur.com/WgP8Eui)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:40:00 PM
How do I get this image thing to work?
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:43:00 PM
http://imgur.com/nbhDhR2
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nbhDhR2.jpg)


Ok sorry about that.  I got the image thing figured bow.
Title: Re: the first bow worthy of posting about! :)
Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/WgP8Eui.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 10:55:00 PM
Next I shaped my riser and sanded out my fades
 (http://i.imgur.com/pEtoliO.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:01:00 PM
Pre glue up.

I started using thin gauge aluminum to help distribute my clamping pressure.

 (http://i.imgur.com/PQX0VfC.jpg)
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Post by: fujimo on April 22, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
very very cool   :thumbsup:  
now you got the pitchur thing figured out- now we need the mandatory, unbraced, braced and full draw pics   :D
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:05:00 PM
Lol im getting to that.  :)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:08:00 PM
Clamped and ready for heat
 (http://i.imgur.com/R8lqyrX.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:10:00 PM
Fresh from the heat box.  I cooked the bow at 170 farenhiet for 5 hours.

 (http://i.imgur.com/AqqXFMe.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:14:00 PM
Let's skip a few and go right to rough shaping  :)
 (http://i.imgur.com/DCpCsIx.jpg)
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Post by: fujimo on April 22, 2015, 11:22:00 PM
lookin good mate!
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:22:00 PM
Finished!  I rubbed two coats of gun stock stain into the wood and then finished with 3 coats of polyurethane.

 (http://i.imgur.com/8PnUvUv.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/uvvb0ar.jpg)
 (http://i.imgur.com/mOmM5FE.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:24:00 PM
Oh here are the tip overlays.  Had some blood wood kicking around.
 (http://i.imgur.com/rwNfOur.jpg)
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Post by: fujimo on April 22, 2015, 11:31:00 PM
i think your bow is awesome- coolest feeling in the world building something with basic stuff, that to the average eye, in a store, would just seem unattainable.
only positive comment i would add is, to try and reduce the weight on the tips
look at some of the tips that people do very slim and lean- dont need much on there to protect the bow.
very cool bow   :thumbsup:  
what poundage did it finish at.
what form design did you use
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:40:00 PM
Here it is braced.
 (http://i.imgur.com/7Tr6515.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:41:00 PM
And at full draw.

 (http://i.imgur.com/pM00pKk.jpg)
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:46:00 PM
Thanks! ! I want to be good enough to maybe take pay in next year's bow swap.  :)  

Ya I know the tips are beefy but I really wanted the blood wood to really be a nice accent point.  

It ended up finishing at 55#@28" so only 10 more then planned, but that's ok as I tore a ligiment in my arm and can only pull to maybe 26 with out crying lol.
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Post by: Krasus on April 22, 2015, 11:49:00 PM
As for my form design. I didn't really have a template or plan to go off of so I just worked my own r/d design till I was happy with the curves I was getting.  

Your right about building a bow being the best feeling in the world.  This is the 4 Th one I have done and my first one that is absolutly mint!  So pumped!
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Post by: fujimo on April 22, 2015, 11:56:00 PM
you can "trap the back" and that will drop quite a few pounds. if you are not sure about that, i can explain it a bit, or there are a lot of threads on here about it- or better still... just build another bow- cant have too many bows   :D  
do you have a stack recipe for a lighter weight bow.
swissbow had a good one- where you punch in your current stack and weight, and it will give you the other stacks needed to get different weights.
yer right the bloodwood tips really do show up well. a bow to be proud of mate!
and more than good enough to take part in the swap . and whats great about this site- its not the quality of the bows, its the act of giving and receiving that has been emphasized.
i would be proud to have a bow like yours in my rack!!
do you bow hunt, and if so where?
cool kids art!!   :)
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 12:14:00 AM
do see though, that you have been buying yer jammies from "Kenny m's custom archery"   :laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:
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Post by: Krasus on April 23, 2015, 12:22:00 AM
What's trapping the back?

I used Bingham stack calculator.  I think it ended up heavier since I used a piece of core tuff in my stack. But I'm not worried.  I just got some free yew and some awesome 8/4 wenge. Next bow is going to be a little fancier in the riser  :)

No I don't hunt. In fact this bow is the first one I will have ever shot.  Going to the range this sat. See how's much I can embarrass myself. Lol

Lol my son likes to paint stuff for "daddy ". I can't wait till he's older so I can make him a bow. But at 3 he's a wee bit too small.
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Post by: Krasus on April 23, 2015, 12:29:00 AM
Lol can't beat comfort  :D
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 12:39:00 AM
so trapping the back is where you try to reduce weight in a glass bow( or help to stop the back, overpowering the belly on a wood bow- but dont worry about that for now)
so...the sides are sanded but the belly glass is not touched, but the sides are angled up towards the back glass- so at the end of the day the back is narrower than the belly.
this will reduce weight, while still maintaining the stability of the bows width.
it needs to be done as a tillering process, as you are now removing material, and if done carefully - no problem- but if rough shod- it can throw your bow outta whack- the word "trapping" comes from the word "trapezoid" where if you cut thru the limb the cross section would be a trapezoid shape.

so it needs to have a different rate of trapping as the bows width changes- but it would be best to chat to some guys who have done it a lot on glass bows- to really add their input- swissbow, canapyboy, bowjunkie- just a few that quickly come to mind- but i know a lot more out there than that have done it regularly .
binghams seem to notoriously come out heavier- check out swissbows calculator- just google bow stack calculator
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 12:43:00 AM
one other thing , i struggled for years trying to get a handle on shooting properly( some may say, that i am still struggling   :biglaugh:  ) but when i started to get some good help and advice from good shooters, was when it all changed for me.some things are just a lot easier if you are shown and taught- no bad habits etc .
check out Rick Welch- read up a heap on him- good advice there- also good advice here with Terrys shooting clock, and also on the "shooting form" sub forum.
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Post by: Krasus on April 23, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
I Googled the stack calculator but couldn't find the Swiss bows one.  Do you have the ulr?  Ya I've heard that about binghams stack before.  That's crazy about tillering the back though. I don't think I'll try doing that yet. I don't want to mess this one up.
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
nah.. just build another one- and build your shoulder back up to shooting this one!

sorry it was bjansens- swiss bow just reposted it
 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=011875
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 01:00:00 AM
the trapping is not so hard- some good guys will chime in on it , maybe tomorrow- they are prolly all sleeping out on the east coast right now- little girly girls!!   :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
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Post by: Krasus on April 23, 2015, 01:06:00 AM
Sweet thanks.

Or up to their balls in snow lol. I like being in shorts in April.   ;)
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Post by: fujimo on April 23, 2015, 01:14:00 AM
:bigsmyl:     :laughing:    :laughing:
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Post by: wcdurand on April 23, 2015, 03:43:00 AM
Very Nice bow. Remember all bows build are worth posting. The failures and successes. I learn from each one posted something and the guys here give good advice and especially if it failed, the positive critique helps a lot for the next bow
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Post by: Krasus on April 23, 2015, 12:43:00 PM
Thanks!  I didn't want to post my previous bows since they all broke. But that's learning for ya.
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Post by: Wolftrail on April 23, 2015, 05:04:00 PM
Good execution looks nice. Big step going into the form layout and all the other stuff for sure.
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Post by: Krasus on April 24, 2015, 12:11:00 AM
Thanks!
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Post by: BrushWolf on April 24, 2015, 08:15:00 AM
Very nice!     :clapper: