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Title: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
Osage belly, red elm core lam, backed with boo. Asymmetrical, 67" tip to tip, shooting for 50 to 55 @ 28".


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Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: cunruhshoot on March 14, 2015, 12:03:00 PM
I want to be the "New Guy" glueing up a bow in Roy's shop!   :archer:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: fujimo on March 14, 2015, 02:18:00 PM
now thats smart!!- i REALLY like your clamp pads   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Boobacker on March 14, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
Not a new Guy ! This is his 3rd glue up ! LOL  Looks like he has a Big ear ring in his left ear ! Last Bow Kenny is his Name! LMFAO
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Bowjunkie on March 14, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
Denny, he'll be the new guy until someone comes along greener than he is.

Roy was my new guy for over a decade    :laughing:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 14, 2015, 05:04:00 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Buemaker on March 15, 2015, 05:15:00 AM
Good idea with the cutouts on them bamboo clamp pads.   :)   Bue--.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 15, 2015, 07:21:00 AM
Bue, I just held them on the one inch belt sander for less than ten seconds to do that. I also cut some off the edges as the full width boo pieces I used before has caused a couple bad glue joints, due to the outer edge sometimes riding on the core lam and not contact the boo backing. I'm a slow learner.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: breazyears on March 15, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
Wish I could get some bamboo around here. Don't want to pay to have it shipped.
 I have seen bamboo poles at garden centers... What would be the minimum diameter pole a guy would need to be able to get a backing out of it?
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2015, 05:21:00 AM
I would guess 4 inches. Depends on thickness of boo.

Bow out of clamps.

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Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Zradix on March 16, 2015, 09:16:00 AM
What type of glue is that?
Looks dark and really thin..at first I thought you were staining before glue up.

My uninbond is much lighter and certainly can't see the grain thru it.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 16, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
Unibond 800 with the dark powdered hardener.  Unibond 800 is a modified urea resin formaldehyde two part adhesive with a translucent liquid resin and a powdered hardener. It comes with either a light hardener or a dark hardener. You don't apply it 1/4" thick..   :)
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Zradix on March 16, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Thanks Roy.
never seen the dark stuff.
I need it .24683" thick to fill in the gaps...but 1/4" is just too much.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: bigbob2 on March 16, 2015, 10:02:00 PM
those maths would be too much for ol' Roy to get his head around!!!   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Martin Schutte on March 26, 2015, 03:14:00 PM
Hi Roy is it my eyes or is there two small holes on either side of the boo on the first pic at the tip of the mock up clamp part? Is that very important?   :confused:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 26, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
Hey Martin, yes it is. I clamp the bow pieces down and run a string down the center from tip to tip to get everything aligned and clamp it down. Then I drill two holes in the handle section where they will be covered with the leather grip. And drill two holes at the tips. I also drill holes at mid limb. After the glue is applied, the pieces tend to get slippery, so I stick tooth picks into those holes to keep everything aligned.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Martin Schutte on March 27, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
Thanks Roy I thought so much, an easy and cheap rig to keep everything in place!!

Martin
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: ColonelSandersLite on March 29, 2015, 03:09:00 AM
That is a pretty dang good idea there with the pins.  I've got a broken arrow sitting around, maybe I'll start chopping it up for that purpose.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Archer Dave on April 01, 2015, 03:16:00 PM
Cool looking project, wish I had someone close to do this sort of thing with.

How do the bows turn out on a clamp up without a form like this compared to a bow made on a two piece form?

Thanks,
Dave
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Mad Max on April 01, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
nice one roy


 
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Originally posted by breazyears:
Wish I could get some bamboo around here. Don't want to pay to have it shipped.
 I have seen bamboo poles at garden centers... What would be the minimum diameter pole a guy would need to be able to get a backing out of it?
tenbrook archery in the Sponsors Classifieds has some, have him quote the freight
go ahead and get 3 or 4
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2015, 05:39:00 AM
Dave, they turn out nice. I can change the deflex/reflex anyway I want with my form.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: fujimo on April 02, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
weeellll, they kinda turn out ok   :dunno:   if yer into plywood bows , that is   :shaka:

they turn out great- and awesome shooters- i have always been wary of the clamp ups, but i think i am just not smart enough to get it to work- but man o man they work allright- i have an ol' codger bow and it does 174 fps with a heavy hunting arrow- only #50 at my draw!
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2015, 08:31:00 AM
If you don't like that plywood bow, then send it back, BOY...  :)
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: fujimo on April 02, 2015, 08:46:00 AM
fat chance o that happening- yer gonna have to come up here and pry it from my cold dead hands!!!
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: fujimo on April 02, 2015, 08:49:00 AM
better make sure ya can run faster than 174 fps too...    :laughing:      :laughing:      :laughing:      
 thats  my hunting bow this season ( with my little ben bow and my frelink stick!!)
 i am going "au natural" this season
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Archer Dave on April 02, 2015, 05:32:00 PM
So is this thing finished yet?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2015, 05:38:00 PM
Not yet, but close.
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Archer Dave on April 02, 2015, 07:48:00 PM
How bout now?    :D
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: fujimo on April 02, 2015, 09:13:00 PM
and now?   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 13, 2015, 07:44:00 AM
Finished tillering and shooting in. 49# @ 28", quiet as a mouse and shoots nice. Stained now and first coat of tung oil on it.

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10 yard group in basement.
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B.S. session.

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Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Mad Max on April 13, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
Nice work Roy
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Zradix on April 13, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 16, 2015, 07:48:00 AM
Stitching on the deer hide grip.

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Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: cunruhshoot on April 16, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
Love the look of the stained bamboo backing!
Title: Re: New guy bow glue up
Post by: drewsbow on April 19, 2015, 07:04:00 AM
very nice bow , congrats