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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Kopper1013 on December 24, 2014, 06:51:00 AM
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Not sure this is the right page, just figured with all the builders over here is get the best feed back on what I thought would be an interesting conversation.
Soooo....
What do you guys think makes a bow forgiving? Easy to shoot, can handle some shooter error ect...
Thanks for your input and all is welcome
Merry Christmas
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Length
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Ditto on length, plus equal limb timing...
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I've been thinking on building a forward handle longbow like a Shrew but a little longer. For that reason....
Here is some reading from a few days back with various opinions.
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=141543
I'm gonna try one and see how it behaves(after bow season).
The theory is with the handle forward of fades it is less likely to torque at the shot......
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Lol...that was an interesting thread Kenny...
I'd say a combo of length, forward handle, a good fitting grip, well timed limbs, little extra weight in the riser, and a draw weight that's comfortable.
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a little bit of string follow and length.
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...is it wrong to say..
cams, sights, and a release aid?
:knothead:
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Well you just made the gonna get a thumpin list.. :)
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Tell it your sorry !! :dunno:
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That's a loaded question....
Forgiving of what? Shooter inconsistencies like grip torque, string torque? Forgiving of tuning variables like arrow spine, nock height or brace height variences? Forgiving of different grip or string hand fulcrums? A book could be written regarding all of it.
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Come on over Roy.
The beer is cold.
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A tender heart? (Sorry, couldn't help myself!).
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Just say it Jeff......Length.... :)
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"Shooter inconsistencies like grip torque, string torque?"
I think this is the key, the bow does the same thing each time. Unless it blows up maybe.... :D
My bow don't always shoot where I look, but it shoots where its pointed every time... :laughing:
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Yup Kenny, your bow skeered a couple deer's this year.. LMAO
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Yep, poop happens Roy! :D
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Just delivered two HBH. One for 28" draw and the other 26". Both approximately 45-50 ibs. The longer bow felt and performed better. The longer bow had a smoother draw, too. I shot both bows with split finger release and three under. Even though I have a 26" release myself, the longer bow was more fun to shoot. Even when I drew past my own draw length. So I say longer.
Stan
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Lol guys are cracking me up! Kenny I read that thread and that's what peaked my interest to see what else you guys thought could be contributing factors to what I call a forgiving bow
My definition: something that can handle some SHOOTER error be it a little pluck upon release, maybe a little hand torque, forces your hand into constant position.
I always had some trouble shooting my bear grizzly, when I got my BW I was amazed how the bow just seemed to shoot itself. I think a lot has to do with the Asbell high wrist style grip. My hand just seems to go where it's suppose to. I'm trying to incorporate that same grip into my next build but was curious what you guys try to build into your bows to make them more "shooter friendly"?
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I'm really interested in that forward riser thing. I expect it to cost a few fps tho. Not that I worry about that, if its quiet and I shoot it better, that's what I'm after!!
Can tell ya in Febuary.....
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I did a few bows with forward riser and they turned out to be very easy to shot. Even not so experienced shooters could get good results from the beginning.
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Andy
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A grip that fits and naturally points your bow in the right direction. I pattern the grip angle after the old, well loved, 1911 pistol. Little or no finger pinch, that usually means a longer bow. It needs to be light enough to easily pull and hold for a bit. The arrows need to be tuned to the bow.
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Andy, ya got a pic of that bow so I can compare to what is circling in my mind?
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Flowers! it works with the wife why not a bow? :smileystooges: :smileystooges:
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:biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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i did read on here somewhere, for a hillbow- that the layup was just reversed (if need be) and once out of the form, the bow then was "built backwards"- to build a reverse handle hill.
now i would imagine that to be VERY forgiving- arent those hills pretty easy pointing and forgiving as it is!
just seems for a bow that is as "traditional" as a hill, might almost be sacrilegious to build it with a forward riser :dunno: :dunno:
any feed back on this??
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I also agree on length. I think longer brace height also helps. Consistent grip also goes without saying
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Originally posted by kennym:
Andy, ya got a pic of that bow so I can compare to what is circling in my mind?
Here you go, Kenny.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/Carlo%20Special/IMG_1065.jpg)
Since my draw length is bit short, I didn't go all the way. But instead I moved the riser forward about one inch only.
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Andy