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Title: Japenese rasp
Post by: stack on December 15, 2014, 10:14:00 AM
Any one know where you can get these. No stores I have been in even know what they are.

Thanks
Bill
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Lin Rhea on December 15, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
Might try Woodcraft. I think they have one called Shinto that may be the one you are talking about.

I use the Nicholson Cabinet makers rasp #50. It higher but well worth it. I've never used the Shinto so I cant compare it.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Grey Taylor on December 15, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
Japan Woodworker carries the Shinto rasp and so does Woodcraft. Many of the self-bowyers I know use this tool, as do I.

Guy
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: stack on December 15, 2014, 01:18:00 PM
Found them, thanks
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Bjorn on December 15, 2014, 01:57:00 PM
The Shinto rasp is good but IMO you cant beat the Nicholson 49 and 50. Buy a wire file cleaner while you are at it.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: ChuckC on December 15, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
If you can, try one out first before you switch.  i really like some of the japanese ideas on wood and metal working tools, but they are sometimes different enough that you buy a "rasp" and you get a "heavy rasp" or a "light rasp", close, but not quite what you had in mind.

CHuckC
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Grey Taylor on December 15, 2014, 03:49:00 PM
11" Shinto rasp, two sided, coarse and fine: $34.50

Nicholson #49: $50.99 + handle
Nicholson #50: $67.99 + handle

For that price difference I'll stick with the Shinto.

Guy
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: neuse on December 16, 2014, 07:17:00 AM
Nicholson rasp are no longer made in America.
I have read that quality control does not exist.

I lost my 49 and have yet to replace.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: 2treks on December 16, 2014, 07:22:00 AM
Yep, the Nicholson line is made in Brazil I think. they don't come close to the old American files. Breaks my bow makin' heart.
It looks like I will be after a German or Japan file when the time comes.
It wont be a Shinto rasp either. Not my cup-o-tea.
they do remove some wood tho.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: jsweka on December 16, 2014, 08:54:00 PM
Here's the one I use when building bows.  I don't use the handle which gives me better control.  Love it and couldn't imagine working on a bow without it.

 http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=65692&cat=1,42524
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Grey Taylor on December 16, 2014, 09:17:00 PM
jsweka, that's how a friend of mine uses the same one. He makes bows for a living and that's the tool he's chosen.
Personally, I like the 11" with a handle.

Guy
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Drew on December 17, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
Love my Shinto ....just takes a little while to learn to control it.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: karrow on December 17, 2014, 08:04:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jsweka:
Here's the one I use when building bows.  I don't use the handle which gives me better control.  Love it and couldn't imagine working on a bow without it.

  http://www.leevalley.com/US/Wood/page.aspx?p=65692&cat=1,42524  
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: takefive on December 18, 2014, 04:04:00 AM
I like the Shinto rasp, too, and it's holding up well after about a dozen wooden bows.  Woodcraft has them on sale every so often.  Mine was less than $25, but it doesn't have that handle bracket.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 18, 2014, 12:24:00 PM
I don't like the Shinto rasp at all. I buy farrier rasps at tractor supply for $20.00. Work great.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Carson81 on December 18, 2014, 02:05:00 PM
I just got 6 of the straight handle 11" Shinto saw rasps in for the self bow classes I teach. I have found from past classes that this tool is popular with the students. Now the students wont have to fight over one.

My only wish is that they offered a half round surface with the saw style rasp.

I hope to launch a bow-making tools page on my website soon. These will definitely be on there.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: Robyn Hode on December 18, 2014, 07:57:00 PM
I also buy farrier rasps at tractor supply for $20.00.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: red hill on December 18, 2014, 11:12:00 PM
I buy the farrier's rasp at a local ranch/farm supply.  We don't have a tractor supply.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 19, 2014, 01:17:00 PM
Shinto is my go to rasp. Love them and go through at least one per year, that's a lot of bow work for me. I use my 1/2 round Nicholson's for fades and handles only, they just don't remove wood like a Shinto does.
Title: Re: Japenese rasp
Post by: takefive on December 19, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
I like a farrier's rasp for getting the bow to floor tiller.  After that I go to a finer cut Nicholson and my Shinto.  Nice to just flip the Shinto over and go from coarse to fine cut.