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Title: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: swamhuntr on February 24, 2014, 10:56:00 AM
Hey fellas is there a DIY or anything on cutting a osage tree from standing tree to staves. I need to know how/when to split, when to put paint or whatever on the ends. I need to know this stuff when I find my Osage tree hahaha.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 24, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
The ends should be sealed very shortly after it's cut. I do it right away... 2 or 3 coats of shellac within the first hour.

When it comes to splitting osage logs, you have a little leeway. You can split them right on the spot where they fell, which often makes them easier to get out of the woods and/or load... or you can bring the logs home and spit them there. They'll be ok for a while in log form, I've let the go for a month or so, but they won't begin to dry inside until they're split.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 11:13:00 AM
a couple of months ago a me and a buddy split up a small osage log that had been sitting on the ground with the ends sealed for a couple months.  it looked rotten from the outside, but once you get past the sapwood its good hard wood.  some powderpost beatles had got in it but they didn't go past the first hearwood ring.  people make bows out of fence posts that have been in the ground for 50 years so its pretty tough and lasting stuff.  seal the ends is the key, and if you remove the bark and sapwood remove it all and seal the back.  i had a stave check overnight cause i didn't finish removing the sapwood and didn't seal it up.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: swamhuntr on February 24, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
Thank you,

how long after you split them til they are dry enough to beginning working on a bow?
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
months to decades depending on how ya do it.  the thicker it is the longer it will take to dry.  more air flow means faster drying as does higher temperature and lower humidity.  once you get your staves split out and remove the sapwood and seal the back give it a month or two and then you can rough out your bow and that will excellerate drying.  i built a drying box out of foam board insulation and incandescant light bulbs where i heat them up to 100 degrees or so for a couple weeks or as needed.  Dean torges' book hunting the osage bow gos into detail.  a moisture meter is a great thing to have too.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: John Scifres on February 24, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
Find a tree:

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-01.jpg)  

Cut the tree.  Be safe.

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-03.jpg)  

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-05.jpg)  

Split into quarters if needed to carry.

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-09.jpg)  

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-06.jpg)

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-07.jpg)

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-08.jpg)
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: John Scifres on February 24, 2014, 11:31:00 AM
Carry to truck through muddy field:

  (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-15.jpg)  

Seal ends for 6" and any exposed backs with shellac right away.  

 (http://sticknstring.webs.com/photos/Wood-2009/wood2009-16.jpg)
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 11:34:00 AM
i can't see your pics is it just me?
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 11:43:00 AM
Now i can
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: swamhuntr on February 24, 2014, 11:45:00 AM
Thanks John  :)
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 24, 2014, 11:54:00 AM
I can't see the pictures either.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 12:06:00 PM
i can see them on my phone, but not my computer.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Bowjunkie on February 24, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
I see em now.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: John Scifres on February 24, 2014, 02:47:00 PM
They are magical pictures.  Now you see them, now you don't.  You must be ready to see them before they appear.  Get to your quiet place, genuflect  to the East and then turn one full circle prior to attempting the download.  If that doesn't work, you must go the dark room and pay your penance for your reward.  I hope that helps.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Echatham on February 24, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
:biglaugh:
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: swamhuntr on February 24, 2014, 03:44:00 PM
:bigsmyl:
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: David Flanrey on February 24, 2014, 04:17:00 PM
Dustin,
You find us a tree and I'll help you get it processed.

For a stave of course.   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: swamhuntr on February 24, 2014, 05:00:00 PM
haha I might have got us one  :)  I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: David Flanrey on February 24, 2014, 06:25:00 PM
Hope it's not the one in the middle of Sage Meadows Golf Course.  We'll have to cut that one at night!!   :laughing:
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: scrub-buster on February 24, 2014, 06:46:00 PM
Seal the ends as soon as you cut it.  I seal them with several coats.  I like to split it at least in half within a few days of cutting it.  Then split it on down into staves whenever I get the time.  If you leave it outside the bugs will find it.  Spraying it with insect repellent will help.  When you remove the bark make sure to remove the sapwood with it.  Seal the backs just like you did the ends.  You can let them season with the bark on.  I go ahead and remove it.

I found a fallen osage tree today that is just asking to be made into bows

  (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/Bows%202014/SDC16313.jpg)
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: John Scifres on February 24, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
Let me know if you need help with that one  :)
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: David Flanrey on February 24, 2014, 08:46:00 PM
Hey guys that is cheating.  Half the fun is trying to get a stuck tree to fall, especially in a good spot.  

The last time me and Brian O cut some osage, we fell the biggest tree of the day in ditch.  It was so heavy we had to split it in the ditch to get it out.  Then carry out the splits nearly 100 yards to the truck.  Man I was tired.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: scrub-buster on February 24, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
For the last several years I have only cut fallen osage trees.  I'm trying to leave the standing ones for my kids and future grandkids if they choose to take up bow making.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Justinlandrum on October 16, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
I am not an expert but I would not have cut some of the smaller trees unless absolutely nesessary. The bigger diameter wood is better. I'm sure you will find this out when you try to use it.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Eric Krewson on October 16, 2015, 06:32:00 PM
First you buy a tractor with a front end loader to help with your osage harvest.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/osage%20cutting/bridgeosageloadingbutt_zps78ac8889.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ekrewson/media/osage%20cutting/bridgeosageloadingbutt_zps78ac8889.jpg.html)

Just kidding, I cut and hauled 99.9% of my osage the old fashion way, only had the tractor for the last tree I cut. It sure made things easier.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: neuse on October 17, 2015, 06:29:00 AM
I have seen alot of osage trees, but evry single one is narly and twisted.

I would like to see a strait one once.
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: mikkekeswick on October 17, 2015, 12:15:00 PM
Now that's a chunk of osage Eric!!!
Title: Re: CUTTING AN OSAGE TREE?
Post by: Mad Max on October 17, 2015, 03:03:00 PM
The bug spray wont hardly do it.
Use some diesel fuel