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Title: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: stringstretcher on December 16, 2011, 05:45:00 AM
Where are you buying your Resourcenal glue from?
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Art B on December 16, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
Never used the resorcinol glue Charles and haven't seen it sold locally. Mostly a boat builder's glue I think. An on-line search is probably your best bet........Art
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: stringstretcher on December 16, 2011, 07:40:00 AM
I have looked and found a couple places to order it, but was hoping to find it locally somewhere.  Thanks Art.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: mwirwicki on December 16, 2011, 08:14:00 AM
Resorcinol was discontinued due to it causing cancer in California.  Something like that, anyways.  Any that you find will be what's left on the shelves.  I've been looking for some too.  Let me know if you find some.  I'm almost out.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Tom Leemans on December 16, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
Pretty soon nobody will be able to repair, build, or clean anything, because everything is bad.
You can go to dap.com and they have a store search engine.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Prairie Drifter on December 16, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?product_id=43

Dap still lists it on there site. Had my local home imp. store order some for me for building bamboo fly rods.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: stringstretcher on December 16, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
Called all the dealers that dap said carried the glue within 100 miles of me, and no one has it. Just letting everyone know, if you want it and can find it.....GO GET IT NOW!!!
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Living_waters on December 16, 2011, 10:58:00 AM
My local lumber yard still carries it.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: frank bullitt on December 16, 2011, 07:21:00 PM
Ace Hardware, here, use too! Try Woodcraft.

Matt, I would think you would have an endless supply from Gary?  :D
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: mwirwicki on December 16, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
Unfortunately for me Frank, Gary is well aware of the discontinued status. I think that he found some but, is guarding it pretty close.  

I tried some Urac 185 this afternoon.  So far, I don't like the gooey half that they called the liquid.  It doesn't mix up or especially, measure as well as Resorcinol did.  It was more of a gob on the teaspoon.  Resorcinol's liquid half was watery in comparison and easy to measure.  I will chime in tomorrow, and report how it is hardening.  I'm skeptical because I have low confidence in my mix ratio between the hardener and the gooey liquid. Like resorcinol, it likes warmer temperatures to cure (at least 65 degrees F).  I hope it is warm enough in my house.  I had to move it up from the basement.  I think that it was too cool down there.

Hey, if anyone finds some extra, I'd be interested!
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: karrow on December 16, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
i work at the lumber yard here in town and i have looked for it and found it in the online catalog not to long ago. so i would say it is still around. just FYI
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: mwirwicki on December 20, 2011, 11:42:00 PM
Chiming back in.  The Urac 185 seems to have cured okay.  I brought the bow back to the basement and positioned a hooded 60 watt bulb over the top of it to get the temp up.  It worked.  At the cooler temp, it wasn't setting up.  Still, I prefer the Dap Resorcinol.  Just on ease of measuring.  I think though that I found an alternative.  Someone else is selling the same mix under a different name.  I will order a quart, try it out an report my findings.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Living_waters on December 21, 2011, 09:46:00 AM
I have used urac with pretty good results. I did have a failure but jury is still out as to weather it was the urac or a hot box malfunction where a Light fell and scorched a spot on the bows back.
If I understand the OSHA warning with resorcinol its main concern is the airborn formaldehyde. Like Urac, resorcinol and bordens UF-109 use a walnut flour catalyst formaldehyde mixture and all of them have the same airborn properties.   Rod builders are going to a product called Perkins (cant find anything on it).
The US's increasing restrictions on formaldehyde will probably have all formaldehyde based glues in danger before long.
May be time to find an acceptable replacement.
Title: Re: Where to find Resourcenal glue?(spelling?)
Post by: Living_waters on December 21, 2011, 10:48:00 AM
Sorry re read and the Ammonium Chloride is a replacement for the walnut flour. Pros: it eliminates the airborn particles, and increases working time. Cons: it reduces the gap filling qualities