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Title: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: nlester on November 25, 2011, 09:12:00 AM
I've got a hickory board bow about complete but have been wondering if I'll need a backing because I have a few minor runoff in the grain.  
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Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: tenbrook on November 25, 2011, 09:18:00 AM
Anything over 45-50# I like to back my BOARD bows.

If using a stave I dont worry as much.

The runout on that board is very minimal for Hickory.  Nice piece.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: Pat B on November 25, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
What does the grain along the side look like. That also has to be considered.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: nlester on November 25, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Pat, what am I looking for on the side?  I don't have any pics of the side, but I did look at it.  It appears that the runoffs on the belly come down through the side of the bow.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: Pat B on November 25, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
Ideally you want the rings running down the sides also. Violations along the side can cause troubles too just like runoffs on the back.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: nlester on November 25, 2011, 03:52:00 PM
Well, shoot.  I believe that I have a violation on the side.  Is there anything I can do about that?
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 25, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
Hickory is mean stuff. If the angle of the run up's or out's isn't too severe you can probaby keep going. The few pics I see dont look bad. Looks pretty thin already?
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: nlester on November 25, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
I don't think its too thin, but it might be.  I put it on the tree and it was 55 @ 25.  I'm shooting for 50-55 @ 28.  It's a pyramid-type bow.  Maybe it is too thin.  Pearly now you got me worried.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: okie64 on November 25, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
Hickory is some pretty tough stuff. I'd say that one will be fine but it is hard to say without seeing the side too like Pat said. Looks like a bias-ringed board and those type can have some waviness and still be fine. Wavy rings on quartesawn lumber is not good.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on November 26, 2011, 08:01:00 AM
Dont listen to me Nathan, Im a rambler. Its just a pic and they can be deceiving. If it scales out right on, then your good man! Plan on losing about 4-5#'s from shoot-in and sanding. Just something to think about as you finish her off.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: nlester on November 26, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
LOL.  Pearly, you're a wise rambler from what I've read over the course of my bow making experience.  I value your opinion.  Should have this bow done today.  I'll have some pics soon.
Title: Re: Do I Need a Backing??
Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 03, 2011, 07:53:00 AM
Count the run offs per limb. Look at the sides. More that 2 means back it for a 50-55# bow. My site has info. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/