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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 13, 2011, 01:43:00 PM
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This is where all bowyers can post pics of the bows getting built and updates on progress as the next few months lingers on :laughing: Is it July yet?
Have fun guys and gal!
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...and away we gooooooo!
Hurry up, Kelly and send that name to me! d;^)
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ya what pat said
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Just got my name......
Cant wait to start. Today maybe? :D
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Just got mine too. Yeehaw!!!
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Stop playing in your sand box and send me my name Kelly, pleeeeeaaaassssssss!!!
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Received my name. Time to get back to work :thumbsup:
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got my name too. i hope the recipient likes what i have in mind. ruddy
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I received me secrete bow santa as well and I already have my riser glued up with limb pad angles and bushings installed and index pins. Now to do the math calcs on the stacks.
Shawn
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Got my name as well. I had one in the making but...
KA-BOOOM!!!
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k282/dlbowers/Self-bows/short-bow.jpg)
Pulled her a touch too far while I was getting a look at the limbs. Back to the drawling board.
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Ya Okay?
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PSYCHED...got my glue in the mail yesterday and get to try something I have never tried before.
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Originally posted by Osagetree:
Ya Okay?
Just my pride is bruised a touch :knothead:
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Dave gets the prize for the first sudden dis-assembly!
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allllll riiiiiight. got my name this morning. it was a little anti-climactic. i expected balloons and streamers and that sort of stuff but nope...just a pm...
now to get to work untwisting that propeller i cut down...
anyone ever seen a bow from a piece of wood twisted 210 degrees? thought about just doing it like that , but then i'd make everyone look bad , so im going to bang my head against a wall trying to straighten firewood...
ill get a couple pics up , but right now its just a 400# @ 28 monster....
-hov
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I have the most perfect stave in the works for my recipient. It's just like fate to serve me up such a softball. I'll get a buildalong started tomorrow since I am working a double tonight and get tomorrow off.
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John I know who you got and I figure he will cherish it when it arrives at his door.
I guess I need to go root through some sticks and see what I can wittle out this year.
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hehe stiks I know how got you.
Dave I thought 2 piece take downs were in the the handle.
All should have there names I did not know this was started yet so ignore my last on the old tread.
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:laughing: 400#@28 monster :laughing: ruddy
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400# @ 28 ain't enuff for ruddy see him laughing at that kid bow weight LOL!!
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got my name and got my head going. I have to make something I've never made for this one!
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Got my name and checked him out and know he likes yaller shavings just wandering if he likes it under glass also?????
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Since I have my draw name I guess I need to dig through the wood pile that I call a basement. I've been saving a couple nice boards for a special occasion.
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lee, ifn i know what your makin its gonna be awesome. ive been huntin an addiction recurve, one i shamelessly promote, all winter. awesome bows you make no doubt about it. a very luck recipient for sure. ruddy
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i will really need to step it up , based on the name i drew...if it was ruddy, one of you guys would have a pm asking if you have anything for sale in the "war tree" stave pile
and yeah , this thing is going to be one heck of a thread. im estimating 9,420 pages...
-hov
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I've seen Greg's basement, it is a lumber yard. He has a special board or two in there for every possible occasion, I think.
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Yep, going to be fun, i have a Black Walnut stave i'm going to try and do someting with !
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thats amazin. looks like i need to find a babysitter so i can get this thing movin...time to bring the rest of the log in and put it on top of the dehumidifier...
-hov
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I know who I got....
Don't tell him what I'm thinking.
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that looks like some kind of take down mechanism....a very medieval one at that...i love it...
-hov
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Well I got mine braced tonight....I think she looks pretty good!
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I might even throw in the arrow! :biglaugh:
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Got My name!Im going to try to get started tomorrow.this is awsum!
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No Sage, tell me about that take down system.
AKmud, now what are you gonna do for the next 6 months.
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AK, that looks great. Hope you got Kellys name:)
Got an Osage Slat started tonight. Will be 66 tip to tip.
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All glued up in a Z-splice.
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And tucked in under the heat lamp for the night. It's 19 degrees here in Pa tonight, heat in the bow shop is set at 50. So the Urac185 will dry just fine.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6330.jpg)
This BBO bow is heading West to I think it was Clem Cadidl-hopper:)
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Ah, a Red Skelton fan! I'm only 31, but he's one of my favorites! I have a bunch of DVD's with his sketches on them. :knothead:
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Hey AKmud, is that a sinew cable backing? I hear those are popular up north.
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That's what I was thinking Pat. I wanna know about that TD rig
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4est, I loved his shows. 62 here:)
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Originally posted by GREG IN MALAD:
Hey AKmud, is that a sinew cable backing? I hear those are popular up north.
Yeah, I was trying something a little different. :bigsmyl:
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And my fun begins
Man roy It can't be for me I am just the the paper pusher this year, Oh how I am sorry I missed that lovely bow AKmud. I bet if you send that your name will be mud.
Happy building to all,
Kelly
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AKmud, I've seen bend thru the handle tiller but never seen all the bend in the handle before - nice one. You get the prize for finishing your trade bow first.
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In my head I'm on the 100th combination of riser woods already...decisions decisions......
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Here's a couple pics of a couple staves I have. I haven't made up my mind 100% as to my build. I may possibly do a BBO but I'm leaning towards a selfbow from one of these. I'll be getting started soon. This is gonna be fun again this year.
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paul, those are some perty staves. ruddy
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Those are some massive rings right there!
Johan I bet you have some native woods that we have never heard of.
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johan,some tamboti, if you can get it- if you want, i have some leads, wild olive is stunning, as well as red ivory.
in fact wild olive is probably the nicest.
regards
en groete
wayne
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Roy and Forest
62 here also Here is a skit by Red it really hits home.
http://media.causes.com/604250?p_id=42563578
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That's a BevelLok Bow Joint (http://www.kustomkingarchery.com/BevelLok-Bow-Joint/productinfo/5601/) Takedown System.
There use to be a couple tutes on their installation either here or on the ***********.
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Got my name in the middle of doing a machine conversion to try to create a smaller vertical edge sander option that would be available to more folks. Plan to finish that and then use it in the bow build. I don't build quite the same way I did when I did the build along on my site a couple years back, so I'll be doing a fairly detailed build along. It's already started with the machine conversion, see "Dick's Bow Swap Build". Hope to move it right along.
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Yehaw,got my name and now to hone in on what to create :bigsmyl: juniper on the left, yew on the right and stuck in the middle again, may have to flip for it. :archer2:
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I've got a few staves to work with and I think I have a winner. Did some work on the bandsaw this morning. Just a bit of heat and she'll be purdy. It's funny to still see snow on the ground and roof (here in Arkansas).
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Oh man! I am pretty excited! What to make... what to make... I'm seeing some beautiful wood on here guys. I'm love'n all of these gnarly staves here. There sure is a lot of talent on this sight!
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Here's the start of my buildalong on my site. I'll post all the pics and text here too so you don't have to leave TG. 2011 TradGang Bow Swap (http://sticknstring.webs.com/2011tradgangbowswap.htm)
Limb 1:
(http://sticknstring.webs.com//photos/2011-Pictures/2011TGSwap02.jpg)
Limb 2:
(http://sticknstring.webs.com//photos/2011-Pictures/2011TGSwap01.jpg)
Some whoop-de-doo too.
(http://sticknstring.webs.com//photos/2011-Pictures/2011TGSwap03.jpg)
And a cool knot.
(http://sticknstring.webs.com//photos/2011-Pictures/2011TGSwap04.jpg)
Floor tillering and then long string tillering are next.
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I'll try to pics my stave this weekend and get started early next week. I dave 3 other bows going right now so keeping my mind seperated between them all is going to be the difficult part.
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Pat,,,only three? You have much more self control then some of us. :help:
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Ok, plan is coming together....
Bow will be hickory backed cherry with zebra wood and maybe paduak in the grip. I ordered two new bow form blueprints from Binghams and picked up a nice 6' 2x6 of cherry and a 5' 1x10 of zebra wood today (they are sure proud of that stuff!). Once the prints get here I'll go to work on the form! It will be good to spend more time in the shop for sure.
I also found out that my supplier has two staves coming up next week! I think he said they were lemon wood (not 100%...). I may have to go take a look and get away from the lumber for a change! :thumbsup:
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Got my name! I need to get some heat in the garage so I can get started. I'm off this weekend so I should get somewhere. Atleast pick out a stave. :jumper:
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I just got back from a trip for work and got my name. Now for some planning....
I'm envying you selfbow and wood builders right now that have materials just laying around waiting to become bows. I need to place an order with kennym.
On another note - I posted on the old thread about the possibility of writing a magazine article to document this bow swap. I checked with Terry Green to make sure this was OK with the TradGang Mods and he said to "let the ink flow", so I guess I'll move forward with it. Obviously, it won't be completed for quite some time as the build and swap progresses. I hope to have something composed by the end of the swap in July and in the meantime will likely be contacting some of you for pics and additional info. This should be fun.
John
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I roughed out one this evening, don't get your hopes up just yet it has several issues, it will be a interesting to see if it is a success or not. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/bowswap1004.jpg)
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Hey KerryB, you going to send me those billets in trade for those cane arrows I sent you last month? Art
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I am getting real excited to get back in the shop. Started an oak board bow the other day, just to get the juices flowing. Proa\\bably wont be the swap bow but am working on some ideas for it.
Kerry that stave from the knot down kinda reminds me of teh lamo in "A Christmas Story" :)
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Been siftin through my gnarly pile of osage and found the shining swap star of a stave. Can't wait until july! If I can these pictures to work they'll be a flyin if not I'll have dvs post em
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well , fixed the jeep today , so tomorrow will be up at 0600 to work on some locust and see how dry it is. i cant wait to make a mess...
ill be sure to get a bunch of pictures....
-hov
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I picked out a stave with a nasty knot in it for this years bow. Pics are coming.
Stiks
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jsweka, be sure whomever takes pics for you uses the highest resolution on their camera for the pics. I know PA Magazine likes the highest resolution you can take for pics submitter for publication.
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Pat B - That's good advice.
Let's all keep that in mind and keep the original high resolution on your home computer while changing the ones we post here in photobucket.
I'm sure there will be lots and lots of awesome photos. The hard part will be deciding which to use.
John
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I've got an article coming out in the newest PA Magazine and that is what they wanted.
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lol its no problem for me , but some guys have trouble with photobucket , so it might be a stretch to get everyone's camera shooting hi-res.
ill be dropping 6billion megapixel (1.21gigawatts) of resolute power. where we're going , we dont need f-stops.
-hov
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Ohh it all looks so good and fun.
I bet all the suppliers of bow making mateirials are wondering why their oders have double in the last 24. LOL
Have fun and Happy Building,
Kelly
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Here's the beginning. Had a very large crown in it before finding that REAL good flat ring
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I know it is only a few of you out of the US borders but if you could shoot me a PM about your customs can skinned bows or even self bows be sent to you.
Kelly
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I have never sent anything overseas but I have sent stuff to Canada. What I did send was raw materials. When filling out the customs form I was told(not by the authorities) to claim "craft items", a "gift" and "0" value to help keep duty costs down. When you find out you are shipping overseas check with your local PO about customs paperwork required for the country you are sending to.
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the only thing bad about claiming a zero value , is that if its damaged , you have no recourse.
i youre sending something to another country , check their regulations . claim the highest amount possible for the lowest duty schedule. i have shipped things all over the world using **** , and only had to fill out a customs form one time. its been a while , but the one i had trouble with was ireland. they wanted the printout of the **** site , a copy of the paypal , and a customs form.
worst case scenario , the recipient has to pay a couple bucks or pounds to pick it up , but its not that bad.
there needs to be a disclaimer on this page that someone forgot to put some pictures up...
-hov
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I glued this Chechen and Texas Mesquite with white phenolic accents up for the 2011 bow swap. After my draw though I went to the pile to see what I had in stock for a one piece bow because my secrete bow santa has lots of 3 piecers so I thought about this piece of nice Macasser Ebony with some of the Figured Yew veneers from Idaho Curt. Or maybe some other Combo. Hum Lots of time to sit and think about on this. Kenny your phone should be ringing this week.
Shawn
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http://emob1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/h8noncubs/Mobile%20Uploads/1295121960.jpg
Maybe this will work?
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that is a nice start dmax. too bad ou basically told me its for someone else...i got all excited.
nice to see how you go from riser block , to handle idea.and that ebony is :thumbsup:
-hov
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Looking good guys.I can tell you for a fact you will neeed customs papers no matter what Country you send to. Put down it's a gift (which it is) Each country is different on what kind of Duties/Taxes are charged.
I got my Stave roughed out some today. Black Walnut, it's going to get a Rawhide back !
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Originally posted by H8nonCubs:
http://emob1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/h8noncubs/Mobile%20Uploads/1295121960.jpg
Maybe this will work?
Fixed it for ya -
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got my name guys got some osage hickory yew and maulberry out trying to figure what i wanna make for the guy i got im ready to dive into it brock
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well butcher , according to your thermometer , its friggin cold where youre at , so i give you kkudos...
ill have some pics up tomorrow , maybe...
-hov
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Originally posted by hova:
well butcher , according to your thermometer , its friggin cold where youre at , so i give you kkudos...
ill have some pics up tomorrow , maybe...
-hov
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@ brock : is that maulberry anything like hickgory?
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Hova, I think thats his scale not a thermometer. :laughing: :laughing:
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Yep,scale....
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Decided to split up my last osage stump. With the extra day of for MLK Jr. day I might be able to fix up a couple of the staves. Here's today's progress and it's kinda starting to look like a bow. Still a bit green on the inside but looking good.
Decided to make a new caul as well... my wife laughed at me because I'm now addicted to "blogging" about my bows. Who says it's bad to read Traditional Bowyer's Bible 4 between the football plays?
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Thanks for the pic help rob!
And I'm glad I'm not the only one getting heckled by their wife for talkin bows with strangers. Keep up the good work guys
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hova maulberry is almost osage just needs to be a bit wider but it is the closest thing to osage dont hold moistur like hickory does try it you ll like it brock
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We've had a weekend visiter here so I haven't had a chance to pick out a stave yet. I did decide before I recieved a name I was gonns build a 60" osage(probably) static recurve and thankfully it will fit my reciepient. d;^) So tomorrow I will go to the wood stack and pick out a suitable stave and try to get it reduced somewhat. I will doccument this build also like last year.
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I posted that I picked out a good pice of osage but I really been contemplating going with a R/D trilam since I noticed my recipient seems to like those.
That ought to put me out of my comfort zone but it will be fun.
We'll just have to see how things go. I am definetly gonna do something different that I have not done before to push my limits and expand my horizons
Stiks
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@ razor & butcher : i was just messin with ya , though in wisconsin , im sure the thermometer looks about the same as that scale.
@stiks : im psychic , i bet i know...
@brock : i was just messin with ya. i wish i could find some mulberry. it was just a play on words , you said maul-berry , i said hick-gory... get it?lol....
hopefully the baby goes with his nana and papa today to church so i can get something accomplished on my stick...
-hov
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Goose,
One day of work and you split a log and have it near floor tiller. Man I am slow. I was happy as heck because befor lunch I had my project down to the ring I am chasing to the half way point. Infact I should be chasing the rest right now.
Happy Building,
Kelly
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hov haha lol ya got me i been at the denver stock show all week had cattle down im wore out was tired got home yesterday haha so figured id have a look YEP ya got me lol brock
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I figured hov ! About 8 outside and 70 in the shop :thumbsup:
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KellyG: I've got to get as much work as I can in now because I've got a little boy on the way. Due in April and if I have heard correctly all I need to do to prepare is sleep and finish any project that can't be put on hold for 18 years :knothead:
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Yep, that's right Goose!!
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goose;i dont know about anyone else , but my son (born april as well , 15th to be exact) was never much for crying , or pacifiers. he sure loved to watch me do things though. even now , if its somewhat close to nice outside , i go out and do my shaving on the patio where he can watch me. he's going to be 2 this year , and hes getting a bow for his birthday. he already says "bo" when i am getting ready for target shooting. he even pulls the string pretty well...
lol you guys are just too easy...i was going to say that scale must be set up for dick's bow , but i didnt want it to sound like i was picking on 'im...lol..
getting some pics uploaded now. i dont know if this locust is going to work out. the rings are paper thin , and its twisted more than i remembered it being...
-hov
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Goose congrats! those with little ones ejoy them now Mine just turned 17 and 15 in DEC :(
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Mine will be 39 in Feb.
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congrats goose. Little ones are awesome. I love takin my boys 8 and 5 with me to MOJAM.
On the bow building side, I have been in the shop working on about ten staves for this thing in between drying coats of truoil for Balding Kansan's bow. It's about finished... still, but I did get the skins to work out with a new bottle of tb3. I should have it mailed off by Friday!
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Mine won't get started for a bit, got to finish UBM auction bow, then UBI auction bow and one other one(which is almost done)!
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I'm not sure if this is where we are supposed to do buildalongs for the bow swap, so correct me if needed. Ok Got it narrowed down to two staves. Decided to go ahead and start a rough out on this one to see how she looks.
58" Juniper. As you can see in the first pic she is fairly clean for juniper.
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The first pic looked to be fairly straight but as you can see in this second pic the heartwood centerline shows clearly some snakyness.
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I used a marker to highlight the flow of the center. On these juniper staves it is often hard to follow the center from the back so I often aproach them from the belly side for the rough in.
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As you can see from the next pic the overall center line is fairly good. but some definite character. I use the centerline as a guide for the first cut out and just stay a good strong inch to the sde of the line. Here is the first stage. Notice the the end shows that we are still very centered on or rings. Juniper dose not split out very clean like osage or other bow woods so often a bandsaw following the heart is best.
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look again at the back befor we started. It was hard to see the character from the back on this one. Often people will make a mistake of trying to cut a straight bow and end up with grain run off.
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looking good Keenan.
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never seen juniper before . what type is that?
-hov
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VERY NICE!!
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Your in the right spot Keenan. Keep it coming!
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Looking good Keenan. I am paying special attention because I might have some juniper coming and looking forward to working it and following your suggestions.
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Nice stave Keenan... Really like your bench too!
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Sorry I didn't get pics. up to this point but here is one after I put cherry backing my trade bow.
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nice ranger.do us proud!
do i see yeller wood b'hind that cherry?
-hov
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Dang this baby talk. I woke up yesterday morning to let the dog out, and the wife says "look on my dresser".
ok.
Pregnancy test. Two lines.
Damnit! Don't get me wrong, I WANT kids. We both do, but man, being unemployed for a couple years now with no love in sight here in MI, I'm nervous as all hell. Oh well, I told the wife this stuff is in God's hands, and if we're blessed with a child it was what was to be.
I have been racking my brain as to what materials to go with for this bow, and so far, it's come to red oak, ebony, and lignum vitae. I really don't like red oak anymore, but it's a great board I found, and I can't seem to find anymore of that cherry I liked so much. What sucks is I can't even start on the dang thing till i'm done renovating this house and we get moved in. Then I gotta set my shop (garage) up.
Man, I need a beverage!
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Take a deep breath Fish it's all good and you got plenty of time. Heck your Baby will 2/3rds of the way here before the deadline :D
If we waited until we could afford kids none of us would be here. I got three girls, talk about breaking the bank.
Stiks
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fish congraulations it ll all work out bro enjoy it s in god s hands brock
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way to go fish. I'm with kris, I have three of my own and can't afford a single one of them. My last one came five days after I got laid off for a year. You'll make it. It just happens.
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Congrats fish on the future kid. You'll have some time to prepare. I'm on the last 1/3 of the pregnancy (actually my wife is and I'm along for the ride) and I still don't completely know what I'm doing. I just know that the baby might come out speaking Spanish the way she is craving Mexican food.
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thats funny goose. when my wife was preg , we went to this place almost four times a week. the other three were usually pizza...lol..
and fish , it is what it is man . i am technically self employed , so trust me i know what you mean being nervous. if you ever get that mouth-watering , and your heart starts beating faster , you might want to get to a bucket. i was driving along aboout a week after we found out , and it just sort of hit me. not bad nerves , but just a complete unknown. i was happy and excited , but my body was in shock i think.
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:ps i puked all over the car cause i had no clue what was happening...
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congrates fish heck in a few years you will have a hunting buddy, fishing buddy, and young bowyer. I think 99.99999999999% of us who have kid just did not know, and was nervous as heck at some point. Let me tell you just pick up the bible (I an no good with verses or book) and find the verse about providing for the all the aniamel and birds of the field and you will feel better.
God Bless and Happy fathering,
Kelly
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You guys are good peoples. It's much appreciated and also needs to be heard. Or read. Whatever, same difference. I took some deep breaths (always good advice Stiks) and had a couple coney dogs and well, I'm pretty excited for it now.
Hova, I know how you feel but nobody's puking in my truck bro. Things would perish.
Fellas with girls... I think that's the reason i'm nervous!
Now back to bow talk, cause that is rarely depressing. Anybody finish a bow yet?
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Originally posted by Goose Gossett:
Congrats fish on the future kid. You'll have some time to prepare. I'm on the last 1/3 of the pregnancy (actually my wife is and I'm along for the ride) and I still don't completely know what I'm doing. I just know that the baby might come out speaking Spanish the way she is craving Mexican food.
My wife craved mexican food too. She wanted green chiles on everything :biglaugh:
Congrats on the expected arrival Fish.
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Kelly...the one you're thinking of is Matthew 6:25-34. One of my favorites. Congratulations, Fish!
Talked to a buddy last weekend, & his dad farms south of here closer to the KS border. Lotsa yellow wood down there. "Thistles" was how he described the attitude towards "hedge apple" trees. Going out in the next week or two when we can coordinate some free time. Just hafta make him a bow in exchange for as much wood as I want.
Gonna be interesting tryin to dry staves in a downtown apartment...
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congrats fish. i hope everything goes well for your wife and you. i had your same feelings about 8 months ago when my wife pulled that same stunt. the tile business hasen't been that great, but i just found out yesterday that i got hired on with a company that makes animal vaccines. finally a steady pay check. it has made the whole babies gonna be here in the next month or so thing go alot better. good luck finding a job, and again i hope all goes well with the pregnancy.
eric
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it might be contagious. we're going to test on friday. hopefully a little girl.
koch : you let me know a time and a place bud...
i got a bow or two in the works and im going to finish one that was given to me tomorrow , and go from there...
-hov
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Roght on Congratulations Fish. Kids are a true gift from above.
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I now suffer from "free-time-envy". I cannot wait to start my tradebow, but all this beginning of year thingys are getting in the way.
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Johan,
South Africa? Wow, you're a long ways off. Bet there's some exiting game for you to hunt there!
I sold my compound bow to someone in South Africa years ago,,, don't miss it at all.
I bet you not only watch out for dangerous game but the people too. Stay alert my friend!
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Me and DVS been workin hard. Takin advantage of our snow day. Here's my bow roughed out
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Here I'll try again
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Here's another that's DVS in the background. Beer cans not included
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Originally posted by H8nonCubs:
[QB] Me and DVS been workin hard. Takin advantage of our snow day. Here's my bow roughed out
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Fixed what I could for ya... ;)
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What am I am doin wrong on the pics?
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I'm glad to hear at least a few of y'all chime in about barely having time to think about this too much yet. Especially when so many seem like they'll be done before the end of January.
Between three kids with homework and such, a house under constant renovation, two working adults (one of which is starting to lose her mind from the whole renovation thing after 7 years...) I was hoping to get a good start on it sometime in March. Break the first one in April, second one in May, and have a shootable one sometime in late June.
As it is, my middle daughter has been shooting the hickory recurve I made her around Christmas roughed out and unfinished. I need to get it sealed up before it gets to the point where it needs to be started over again.
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(http://) <----Not adding that before or after you pics. If you copy and past from photo bucket the bottom line that has this code in it for you you dont have to type that piece of code. The brackets plus IMG first and the brackets slash IMG go at the end of the PIC location code.
Kelly
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lookin good h8non .
im with canopy. i thought i would have some free time , but an impromptu argument last night between the wife and the inlaws means that i have got to find us a new place. chances are it wont be a house like we have been looking for...
the red oak im working on now might get put on the back burner for a little while till i get a framesaw made up , and cut a back for it.
i love the pics of you guys workin on bows. it gives me hope...
-hov
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Chris- On photobucket just move your mouse over the pic and when the menu drops down, go to the last option and left click on it. It will briefly say "copied" then come over here and past that link by doing a right click and chosing "paste" in the menu. It's that simple.
Then your pic will appear in the post and not just the link. I think the problem is your trying to just post the link option and not the actual pic. The last option in the menu that drops down from the pic is the one you want to left click on.
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I've got a few more pics from last night. We worked until 2am watching the snow fall. We got about eight inches thus far and its still snowing. Thant mean another full day in the shop with the stove burning. I worked down a few and roughed out enough that between the two of us we have the hot box filled with bow blanks. Now I just have to pick a few for this swap. We would have probably kept on going if the bow gods hadnt decided to give us a clear reason the go to bed. Chris broke his drawknife in half. I'd never even heard of something like that happening. (http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0074.jpg)
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Well that is a few blanks might keep you busy for a day or two
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OK here we go it is Osage with Cheery bark backing, this bow does not even compare to my recipient but I feel it isn't that bad, even though it came in a little low in weight. They wanted 45@26 on the low side and came in at 43@26. I am going to include a little something as a surprise. I hope you like the pics.
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Wow, that was fast! She is a 'beaut for sure.
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More pics. the first two shows the camo effect and the next two show the upper and lower tips.
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Thats a dandy Ranger :thumbsup:
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Ranger, Did you just pull that off the rack or what? ;)
If I had time to build'em that quick I wouldn't have a bow wood tree growing for at least a 20 mile radius LOL and I would have to add onto my man cave :bigsmyl:
Looks Great, to bad you didn't get my name. I know because of the draw length.
Stiks
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nice ranger im sure he will like it and ur target wt is right on if ur shootin for 40-45 43 is right onn the head i relley like it im sure he will also very good job brock
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Stiks, I don't have a job like the rest of you guys I'm retired and I did cheat a little I started a little early
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wow very nice bow. what are the tip overlays? i like the cherry bark backing, seems like this backing is gaining popularity. ruddy
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Ranger3 that is a beauty. I know *********** ***** will is going to hit the floor when that arrives. I got you down as completing your bow, just drop me a PM when you ship it.
If everyone does that I can keep track of who has and has not sent and received their bows. I hope it will help us keep on top of an unforeseeable issues.
Great Job 1 down and 83 to go.
Happy Building All,
Kelly
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That is one fine looking bow there sir, congrats!!
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Ranger I'm gonna rig the draw next year LOL.
Very nice looking stick. I'm sure the new owner will love it.
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Thanks everyone, will do Kelly, broketooth the tips are white tail antler.
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Stiks only if I dont beat you too it. LOL
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Very nice Ranger. Well done. Hopefully I'll get mine bending this weekedd.
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Sweet looking bow Ranger, top notch quality for sure! I love that backing and it adds a real unique touch.
I got my blank roughed out this morning, and ready to start working it down. I pulled one of my el primo Osage staves out of the rafters for this bow build. I'd say I'm within 2-3 days work from being able to shoot it, give or take a week or so. :D
The poundage is a little heavy yet, I'm guessing around 150# or so? :rolleyes:
If I was making this bow for Raging Waters or Biggie, I could just throw a 1/4" steel cable on it for a string and make up some rebar for arrow shafts and call it good to go. :thumbsup:
This blank will make my recipient a real nice longbow I'm sure, as long as I do my part.
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Ranger that is a sweet looking bow. Did you get the cherry bark from your hunter/gatherer skills or purchase it and what is the length of the bow? It looks shorter and I love the curve in the tips! You'll have the winner of that bow slinging sticks before no time!
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Thanks again everyone, I bought the bark from Raptor archery and the bow is 63" over all. If you all think this one is nice stick around the really nice ones is yet to be built.
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i was excited to see that bow as well ranger. i thought maybe you drew me , then someone had to point out the drawlength....
maybe ill get a chance to get to the lumber yard this weekend and puttz around. the locust i have is not black locust (or my ultraviolet light isnt ultraviolet) , cause it didnt glow when i hit it. it had thorns like mad , and seemed to match up with black locust , so i dont know. the rings are tissue paper thin though , and i just get frustrated when i mess with it.
im thinking jatoba backed cherry... maybe hickory backed jatoba... i dont know... maybe ill use the mystery log i have , and hickory back it...
-hov
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Hova, does your locust have multi-pointed thorns on the trunk or small roselike thorns on the small branches.
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I'm guessing, Honey Locust.
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sounds like it kerry.
nice looking stave semo. Aint mo ark awesome?
cool looking bow ranger. I like that cherry backing. It's a unique touch.
I worked about 18 hours in the shop chasing rings and rasping out bow blanks. It wasn't all hard work though. I did take a few breaks to heat up and straighten a few as I went. Two very productive days later I still have to pick a blank for the swap I'm happy, but exausted!
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it had thorns all over the trunk and branches. upwards of 2" long. i dont recall them being multi pointed , but i was more worried about knocking all of them off....
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It's not honey locust they don't have thorns
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Originally posted by ranger 3:
It's not honey locust they don't have thorns
I think he meant that it is honey locust. Honey Locust is covered with the nasties. My farm is full of the stuff.
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Here are a few pics from today. First one is my choices for the swap. Decisions, decisions. (http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0076.jpg)
The next are the one I picked.
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This blank has some naturel deflex soooo... I'm going to have to put her on the super caul. :-) I really like this one, but it takes quite a few sessions with the heat gun to get it right. I'm thinking that its going to take five. Thats my guess, but for now, its still green so into the steam tube it went for a few hours today and then it is off to the hot box after it stabilizes in about a week. (http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0079.jpg)
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DVS - Mo Bo Dark is the best quality Osage found anywhere, and it's everywhere down here where I'm at. I used to live and work in St. Peters, Mo.
I've been all over O'Fallon.
You got a nice pile of staves there, I'm going to have to get back on mine again this spring.
Running low on finished stave blanks, got 3 on trade to your buddy Brock for snake skins.
I agree about the honey locust, it's lousy thick down here and it's got thorns all over it! That's why I don't dare cut it down cause the thorns get everywhere and I can't afford to keep replacing tractor and ATV tires!
It's a tight grained, white wood that splits like glass and burns super hot. That's about all I know about it, never tried to make a bow out of it. I just know that it's better left standing if it's anywhere you ever plan on driving through someday. :rolleyes:
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DVS is that the same caul that was at MoJam this past summer? If so that is one aggressive curved monster if I remember right.
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Nice work Ranger 3.Beautiful bow!
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Here is a honey locust pic I happened to have handy...
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The closer one that looks like a cactus!!
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Yep, that's the one!
Nasty buggers, some guys around here call them scaley bark locusts. Then there's the other variety called slick bark locust, which is actually black locust and we have them too. They aren't covered with thorns like the honey locust.
If you find a tree that has rose like thorns on the smaller limbs, but no thorns on the trunk.........cut it, cause those make really nice bows! :thumbsup:
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That is a thorn less Honey Locust (Gleditsia triacanthos inermis) that my bow is hanging on.
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I didn't know those were around. I stand corrected.
goose- that is the caul, except it has been reworked to even it out a bit more.
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yeah thats probable what the one i cut would look like in another 200 years. it was down by a dam spillway , under some large trees. it was only about 8 ft worth of trunk , then another 3 ft of canopy. the wood is very thin ringed , with almost no color contrast. it looked good when it was standing , but when i split it , it ended up looking like a crazy straw...
we have something in the in-laws backyard that had the leaves like a locust ,but i didnt see thorns until i looked at the leaf-stems , and on it there are tiny tiny tiny little thorns , but no where on the branches or trunk. it doesnt look twisted , but its only about 2" in diameter. it is bent to all hell and back though...
that osage ya got looks mighty purty there dvs.
anyways , i was on the lumber mill's website today , and they have walnut and cherry , so that might end up being what i go with for the swap. someone had some slab wood locally , but they didnt know what it was , and it looked like it was stored outside , so i figure stay away.
what you guys workin on tonight?
-hov
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GUYS THAT HONEY LOCUST HEART WOOD MAKES REALLY NICE BOWS AND THEY SHOOT GOOD BRETT LANDON HAD A COUPLE HE MADE AT MOJAM I SHOT 1 RELLEY LIKED IT BUT I HATE CUTTIN THE DAMN STUFF I WEAR MY WELDIN JACKET GLOC
VES AND A FACE SHILD JUST KNOCKIN THORNS OFF TO CUT THE DARN THING DOWN IV BEEN TOLD BY OLD TIMERS THOSE THORNS WILL MAKE YA SICK SOME OF EM HAVE POISIN ON EM BROCK
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ranger 3 Nice job! I like the looks of that cherry bark on the back. I'm going to have to try that sometime.
I hope to get some of my other projects done or at least moved off my work bench in the next few weeks so I can get started.
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Ranger, very nice, I can see that if I'm gone for a few days I will have pages of reading,LOL
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I hear ya Keenan, Pages and pages.
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brock , its funny you mention that because i ended up getting a couple pokes by thorns i thought , and they hurt worse than any thorn or cut i have ever had. one was just a poke , and three swelled up a week later , and the very tip of the thorn had broken off in my hand. i had to dig them out with a buck knife , and the feeling of cutting into myself to get them out felt good compared to what they felt like in there...
also brock : i thought of getting heartwood out of it , but there is no color difference from the outer ring to the inside. the cambium is pretty dark , and comes right off , other than that , its all white. the heart of the propeller i cut down split and lifted a bit , but i mighht be able to salvage it.
-hov
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YEP BRO THEY HURT JUST GLAD YA DIDNT GET INFECTION FROM EM THEM THORNS ARE BAD NEWS THE COLOR IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BUT I TELL YA BRETT HAD IT FINISHED WITH TRU OIL AND MAN THAT STUFF WAS PRETTY CONTGRATS ON WINN A OSAGE STAVE NOW YA GOTTA MAKE ONE AND GET UR BUTT DOWN TO MOJAM LOL BROCK
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Here is a little update,First I wanted about 1/3 sapwood and 2/3 heart, so I needed to thin the sapwood down about 3/8". The rings on juniper sapwood are very thin and almost impossible to follow one ring. Since I'm going to back with sinew, it wont matter but I got it down to a fairly consistant ring anyway. After I got the sapwood reduced I then trimmed off the excess thickness on the belly with the bandsaw.
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Here there is a little extra width in a few areas. I removed the pencil marks to better center the growth rings.
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Here is the rough out after sapwood thinned.
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The stave is fairly deflexed so the next step was heat treating on the caul. First I did the whole stave to obtain about a two inch reflex. Heat gun with Crisco shortening rub on the surface. Heated slow, deep and consistant about 10 sec. count every 2 inches first pass. Then a 20 sec. count every 1.5 inches and one inch away. Let cool overnight, then worked a slight tip roll with my tighter jig. The bump pads help to keep the back protected espcially around bumps and knots
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After heat treating and cool down. I wiped the whole stave with accetone to remove the Crisco. The did a light scrape on the whole bow to remove any residue and let the wood breath and prepare for sinew. Here you can see one half scaped
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Worked on someones bow today,I flipped the tips, any suggestions for tip overlays, I think this one will get some skins of some sort. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/bowswap1007.jpg) (http://i801.[IMG]http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/bowswap1008.jpg)
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Looking very nice Kerry. What kind of skins you doing? what tip material do you have?
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Sure is looking good, congrats.
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I was thinking about some Flathead skins i have a set of them from the belly, light blueish in color. for overlay material you name it i probably have it, if i can find it,lol.
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I see the bows are really starting to heat up. Love them
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never seen a flathead. i love the belly skins though. probably more than back skins.
that juniper is looking niiiiice too.
i cant wait to dig in!
-hov
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Those skins sound cool Kerry, I'd say whatever matches or compliments. I'm the same way about building a bow. I'm never content untill I can see it in my mind.then I can settle in and have fun as it unfolds :dunno:
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Keenan, how many layers of sinew will that juniper require. Its looking great.
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Kerry, I think I am just going to do one good heavy layer and skins over that.
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What type of skins do you have in mind?
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Can't go wrong with antler tips. Those bows are looking great. Can't wait to see what shows up on my doorstep
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Not sure yet Kerry. Still trying to put togther the finished vision of her. :bigsmyl:
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i might have to find the one shed i have ever found , and do some antler overlays on the osage swap..
-hov
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Wow! Lots of work going on. It's looking like I'm the only one working glass! At least I don't have to worry about thorns! :biglaugh:
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Dick,
Give the most glass bowyers a few weeks for their material orders to arrive, then you will see quite a few glass bows started.
Thanks again for the input regarding the thickness sander.
I went by the storage shed this afternoon and loaded a 14" log that had been kerfed when it was cut and been drying since March of 2004. I think there are several bows in it, but just in case, I grabbed a couple of Osage and one Eastern Red Cedar stave. I will take a few pictures tomorrow and post them.
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I picked up a great piece of hickory today. Once I get my form built and lams cut I can start the glue up! We have an indoor NFAA shoot this weekend so it will be busy for me and two of my daughters but it should slow down after that. Looking forward to makin' some shavings!
Looks like the plan is a hickory backed cherry with zebra wood for the grip and overlays. I might have to play with some stains on this one....
Do you guys know of local shops that carry phenolic? I'd like to go put my hands on some before having to order it on the I-net. I haven't worked with it before so I'm not sure what type of stores would carry it.
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Looking great guys, nice bow Ranger3 someones going to be happy with that one !
I got half my Black Walnut rawhided yesterday, going to do the other half tomorrow. I'm having Christmas with my Mom today, so no bow building :( but i get to see the whole family :bigsmyl:
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Kerry, I used Rosewood for tips on my nephew's bows this Christmas. It looked real nice and Rosewood is so hard that after sanding down to eventually using 400 grit, I buffed them on my bench grinder with a buffing wheel and they shined like glass. Very sleek and very pretty.
I think I'll be using that again, but I'm about to run out of Rosewood scraps so I have to hoard what I have left. Even though it only takes a small piece about 1.250" long x 1/2" thick.
I like working with Rosewood because it's so hard that it's almost impossible to screw up.
Deer antler also makes real nice tips if you have some of that on hand, and I think I'm going to try using that next?
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yeah i forgot all about the shed i have. i might get up to my old mans property and see if i can find some more sheds and some sapplings...
wish i could get out and work on my locust...
-hov
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Keenan I know ******* is just going to love that bow.
Kerryb you know that ********** is just going to enjoy shooting wonderful stick. Heck any horn or antler looks good on tips.
Ranger 3 I think you lit the fire under their bottoms. LOL
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kelly who got **** ?
-hov
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I got the recurves bent today. I have pics I will post later. This will be a 60" elm static recurve, 50#@28" mol.
This is the first time I've heat bent elm and it bends nice with dry heat and oil. I did get a splinter lifting on the outside(belly) of the curve in one limb(haven't checked the other) but the limb tips are thick enough I can scrape it out and still have plenty of wood thickness. First I'll run some super glue down into the splinter just for insurence even though it should all be removed when I shape the tips.
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There is some great stuff going on here. Keenan I like what you are doing with the juniper it's helping me to see what to do with mine. I just split some jumiper and plan on cutting bunch more.
My brother-inlaw let me take a bunch of hickory,cherry and some maple boards could make for some cool board bows....Oh what to make/break for this?
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Mine is coming along well so far,it is a 65" Hophornbeam tillered to 55# @ 28" right now. Ran about 35 arrows through it today, shoots smooth and close to where I'm lookin, didn't do bad for shooting off the knuckle with no nocking point installed. Plan to heat treat the limbs and re tiller to somewhere around 50 - 55# @ 28" then shoot it in and finish, haven't decided what to put on the back yet.
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I still can't make up my mind on what to build....
Osage with flipped tips, yew long bow, BBO, trilam of boo, bloodwood, and osage
I'll get it figured out in a few weeks. I'm gonna finish up my trap line this month and get to bow making.
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i love bbo's , they are so pretty.
-hov
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Since I have been taking so many pics I decided to start my own thread showing the process of how I do some of this stuff.
Keep it pure Kris. Make a selfbow! d;^)
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Now come on Pat, nothing wrong with BBO Bows:) Different strokes for different folks. It's all wood Dude:) Maybe real selfbows should not have recurve tips heated into them either, they could throw up a splinter:) LOL
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Hova what I said was ******** and ******** are going to love them bows. Did that clear it up for ya.
Lots of shaving going on here I like it, I like it.
Happy Building,
Kelly
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yeah yeah , i know those are ****** and *********'s bows , but where is ****'s bow?
:wavey:
-hov
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Pat I agree with you I think I am gonna order a yew stave for this.
I still like the bbo and glass bows but I love them self bows with a dash of character
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Some really awesome work going on in the bench now a days. Keep it comin everyone!
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oh hova you mean your bow, It is with the bowyer!
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thanks , just makin sure.
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started tillering my 50" white oak stalker. 55# @ 14" short brace of 4" . this white oak really is amazing compared to the junk redoak...
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I glued up the riser today, wenge and zebra with a black and white core tuff accent. Next weekend I should get the bow glued up.
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thats hot!
whats going on the limbs?
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Quilted maple.
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Gonna be a sweet looking bow Greg.
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Did a little bit of rasping and scraping before teaching some students about Jesus. I think I'm getting some ideas about what I'm going to do. Definitely like how one of the staves is looking snakey and I haven't even heat treated er yet. Almost centershot without the heat. Not sure if it will be the trade bow yet or not.
I've got another stave that has a clean back. No pin knots. That one I might recurve the tips. At least I can say I have a few options at the moment.
Maybe I'll get a bow built between getting ready for my baby boy and work.
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Wow greg thats going to be pretty :bigsmyl:
Goose, thats got some good character for sure. looking good
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goose those are real nice snakes haha i relley like em ya gota show us what ya make em into cant wait to see brock
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I will take that one yep that one right there. This is getting good.
Happy Building,
Kelly
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thats going to look awesome with the maple.
and goose , that centershot is nice. i'd love somethin like that , as long as it shoots straight , i cant say it matters if its bent like that in my book. more character the better!
-hovv
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Goose I like the way that Handle looks on the bow far left.
looks like your off to pretty good start.
Stiks
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I have a BBO started. 66 tip to tip. It's heading West:)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6361-Copy.jpg)
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Greg.... gorgeous riser shaping up there!
Don't know how you self bow guys deal with those snakey bows, but they're fascinating to look at.
I tried one of those scrape it out bows once, but ran out of patience after the first three years... (Not really, but it seemed like it!) Gave it away half finished. :)
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Roy, what is your belly, a board, billet, or split stave?
I've tried a spliced billet of osage. Now I'm working on a green osage stave and considering ordering an osage board from 3rivers.
Greg, your bow looks nice. Laminated bows are certainly pretty with the various wood combos.
You guys know how to intimidate a person...LOL
I believe this bow swap has us in a fever-pitch.
Stan
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it's funny, I got into bow building with the goal of building my own glass bow, and I can't seem to even try it. I just can't get past selfbows. Maybe one day I'll make a glass bow... Maybe not.
dick- I don't know how you glass guys build without snakes! Haha
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YOU AND ME BOTH DAVE I MADE 3 BOW FORMS HAD 2 MORE MADE,, BRAD JANSEN MADE ME 1 BOUGHT FIRE HOSES GLASS AND ALL THE CRAP AND PROBLY 25 SLATS GLASS SETTIN IN MY SHOP AND I STILL CANT PULL MY SELF AWAY FROM MY SELF BOWS OR SNAKES LONG ENOGH TO EVEN LAY ONE OUT LOL BROCK
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Red, it's two Osage board billets, 1 1/2 wide, 1/2 thick, and 36 long, Z-spliced together. I've found that getting clean Osage Billets that are knot free and doing a Z-splice on them, yields a sweet bow. But them guys who make bows from knotty crooked Osage staves just amaze me. Here in Pa we don't have Osage with thick growth rings like in the Midwest. God I'd love to get ahold of a Midwest Osage Stave just one time, and I WOULD MAKE A SELFBOW FROM IT:)
DVS, I tried a glass takedown last winter. Never finished it. It just wasn't me, I felt like I was cheating myself. I agree glass bow's are great shooters, but they are not for me, it's Osage or Bust here:)
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well Fellas Ive got a little started on mine.I screwed up and started it as a new post called"well its a start" when i ment for it to be a reply to this thread.Oh well its ben a long day.Looking good fellas!Like Red Hill said You guys sure know how to intimidate a person.LOL!...
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Looking great everyone ! Heres where im at with my build. Got it floored tillerd and the rawhide put on.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/blackwalnutbowswap002.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/tradebows003.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/tradebows002.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/tradebows001.jpg)
Then i started working on this Hickory sapling with some nice natrual relux/character.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/tradebows004.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/tradebows005.jpg)
Will see what happens :dunno: :)
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Dang my self esteem is lowering day by day...lol
There are some top notch bowyers in this swap.
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Well guys and gals... there was a long tube setting on the back porch when my wife got home this afternoon.
YEA HAWWWW!!
ranger 3 out did himself. That bow he posted pics of a few days ago was inside the tube. Along with a couple of arrows and a nice bow sock. I ran out to the shop and took a few shots and it shoots nice.
I'll get some pics posted in day or so.
Thanks you did good sir, David
:bigsmyl: :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
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And it begins !
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Brock you might like this. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/snakeybow006.jpg)
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lol kerry yep i love it when will it get here ill be watching for the ups man lol
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omg kerry. i thought you had a pet snake fer reals!
thats crazy that someone already got their bow... isnt it still january?
-hov
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Wow you guys are doing good! There are going to be some nice bows coming together.
Kerry That is a very nice snake bow!
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This is actually a bow my wife is building for herself, she just put the skins on and is drying. All the talk about snakes thought i would show it.
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kerry u tell her she s doin a fine job and she s got the best coach haha have fun brock p s how much snow ya got there now ?
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Those are great, love the snake bow!!
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Well there is some awesome builds!
longbowhntr,
It is hard for me not to spill the beans. When I first seen the bow, I wanted to hope rignt on here as say Longboehntr is one luck son of a gun look at that bow!
KerryB Next year you should have the wife hope in and do the bow swap..
Happy Building,
Kelly
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kerry, those are some nice looking skins. I'm mad I have to wait til me stave dries!
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I tried a Bingham longbow a few years ago. It blew up before I ever strung it! That was enough for me!!! d;^)
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kerryb, tell you wife I'll be looking for her in the bow trade next year. Great looking bow
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Originally posted by kerryb:
Brock you might like this. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/snakeybow006.jpg)
I want THIS one! :D
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Me too
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yup, that is a beautiful bow
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sorry i already claimed it...
i showed it to the wife and she shivered and said "that guy must love snakes to let one on his pool table"....
the shiver made me laugh so hard....
-hov
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Originally posted by tenbrook:
Originally posted by kerryb:
Brock you might like this.
I want THIS one! :D [/b]
I don't know, I'd have to change my shorts everytime I walked into the room I keep my bows. Something like that looks ready to jump out at a guy.
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I've been out of town for work the past couple days and fighting the rat race traffic of the Washington DC and Arlington, VA area. I was so glad to get home tonight and what made it all that much better was a package from kennym waiting for me. It contained the guts of my build for the bow swap.
Here's a pic of the lams - nicely bookmatched walnut and actionboo center core. Kenny stated in an email that I would like the walnut and I sure do :thumbsup:
This is going to be a straight limbed Hill style longbow and I'm going to use a nice piece of curly maple for the riser. I won't give anymore hints as to intended weight, length, or right vs. left handed to keep you all guessing who the recipient is.
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap/CAM_1857.jpg)
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Thats going to look nice John
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The walnut lams with the blone curly maple should be striking!
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look at that walnut, sweeet. ruddy
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whew have not looked on here in a while theres some mighty fine looking bows and materials on here.
Keep up the great work guys.
Shawn
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So I think I went a "bit" overboard and decided to go crazy right out the gate. I thought about a very aggressive form and went for it. As you can see I had a bit of an issue with it's aggressiveness. I do know when I was looking at the belly to begin I was questioning if I should have gone down to the next ring or not because I was in the fringe area that was very close to the early growth. Not sure if that is what lifted or not because as I was looking at it that was my first thought but I went with it anyway.
My questions are...
1. Is it just way too much curve? (I took my time in heating and coated it with veggie oil)
2. Would the bow's belly being close to the early growth and being bent make more of an opportunity to lift a ring? (That's what it looks like)
3. If this ends up being a blown bow can I claim the first fatality in the trade bow build?
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Saturate the cracks well with super glue and let it set up well. Be sure the glue gets down inside. If necessary you can add an overlay to strengthen it. Now on to the next curve. Work slower. That is a pretty tight bend.
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wow I think you are given her all she's got captain. (in my best Scottish accent)
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I was going to ask about the radius of the bend, what seems to work best when flipping the tips? Goose, I like the looks of the bow so far.
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that looks fine goose. wouldnt that tiller out by the time you were all done?
i cant wait to shoot it!
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A metal strapping band clamped to the belly will help prevent that. Even so, I doubt you could get that much bend with dry heat without damaging the belly. It just cannot stretch that much. A more round curve would help. But, those kind of splits generally do not cause the bow to fail. Since they are in a static recurve, by definition, they will not bend. If they do, they will fail. Keep it thick and narrow and you will be fine. I generally stay at 1/2" thickness on static tips. I also make them less than 1/2" wide most of the time to reduce mass. I've built statics up to 60# with those dimensions.
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Just a hair on the aggresive side, but like Pat said you can put underlays to strengthen it, or overlays on the back. Maybe rawhide the back?
Not sure cause I have not tried this myself yet, but it's coming soon. I've got the perfect project in mind for it and I'm gonna get crazy with it.
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Been there! No need to do anything to the back of the bend Goose. You can either pre-bend some overlays on your form or scribe and fit a bridge over the damaged area. Rasp down and remove the damaged wood and replace with new wood. If you use some type of epoxy for the fix you won't need to go all that deep for the repair. Once the crack is bound between the back and new wood any cracks becomes irrelevant. Good luck......Art
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Wonderful input from y'all. Going to bend the second tip tonight late and go EXTREMELY slow. Although I thought I went slow on the first one. I'll post more pictures as it goes.
As the potential bridge would walnut be a good potential bridge material? I've got some chunks of osage, hickory, and oak but I'm thinking the dark contrast might look good. Thoughts?
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Walnut works really well Goose.........Art
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This is a walnut tip underlay I used to strengthen the reflex in this hickory bow.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Hannahsbow012.jpg)
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Pat that looks awesome. Does that also create a static tip effect?
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Goose: I've used underlays on recurved tips several times and love the effect. It really helps to keep 'em stiff and can help repair a damaged belly. It doesn't have to be very thick. Here's an example:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/Osage%20Static%20Recurve%20for%20Maggie/HPIM3728.jpg)
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Pat thanks for the picture and 4est I know I've seen that picture before because I might covet that bow :D .
I bent the other tip this morning and what was a 45 minute job with the other became an hour and thirty minutes with this one. I went in even smaller increments and basically did what I did last time in double the time. I did see less lifts but I did notice a few.
When you guys did the overlays on the belly did you just rip them out on a bandsaw to the angle of the bend or heat them in the same caul for the desired bend? I'm thinking I can get close with my bandsaw on the angle and make any adjustments with a sander. Let me know if I barking up the wrong tree.
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Goose I really hope it holds that thing is going to be awesome braced.
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You can use either method Goose. Bend your overlays on your form or scribe-in/fit a larger piece and shape to liking.......Art
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So I tried to scribe-in a couple of pieces and my bandsaw work... needs work. You can see the gaps even after sanding. Definitely needs some fixing but my question is now what would be the best way to get a flush bond for the glue? I had some walnut leftover that I'll try to steam into the form. When I sanded out the lifts there is a dip in the osage from the cracks. Not sure how walnut will take steam but I'm willing to try.
I'm all up for suggestions or putting up someone at my house for a day (wife willing) to walk me through static recurves. Anyone going to OJAM willing to teach a willing participant how to make a static recurve?
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On a positive note I've got a couple of Junior High students coming over tomorrow to build a couple of board bows. Preglued the handles for them. We will see how it works out :D
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/38a6518f.jpg)
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You just have to take your time and fit as best you can Goose. Urac-185 is close in color to walnut, got any of that? Art
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Thanks Art that's all I needed to hear. Wasn't sure if I was going at it the right way or not. Urac-185 is on my need to purchase list anywhoo. Thanks.
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Several 1/8" thin slats will conform to almost any curve.
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I glued it up last night. Here it is sanded to width and ready for overlays. With any luck it will be shooting tomorrow. Wenge and zebra riser with quilted maple limbs.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/100_1015.jpg)
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Wow that is stunning!
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took the word right ouota my mouth kelly. Stunning Greg
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Nice! Maybe I should have specified a glass bow. :D
--Steve
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That is awesome Greg!!!
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That is awesome Greg!!!
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Nice, Greg. That maple looks too elegant to hunt with though. Gorgeous bow.
Stan
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I love it, great job!
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Thanks guys.I really like the Wenge and quilted maple,I don't think I can bring myself to put a leather wrap on this one. If it comes out too light I get to keep it for myself.
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Greg I really like them veneers you put on my bow :D The riser layout is sweet as well.
I'll give her a good home :readit:
Lots of sweet bows coming together in this and other threads.
Stiks
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kelly i just realized you messed up my draw weight range. its 12-90#
-hov
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Very sweet.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Can't think of anything to say that hasn't already been said. Way to go Greg.
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I kind of feel stupid for cutting a perfectly good bow stave in half... but I've almost got it back together now....
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/a2a37cb7.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/42eec779.jpg)
I had to make a jig to keep everything aligned for the machining.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/93a54208.jpg)
I built a box and wedged everything into place.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/9f9c1b4b.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/1c8b019a.jpg)
Once everything is aligned, I can route out the ends for the takedown fixture.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/57ec52f4.jpg)
Ends done.
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Then the back has to be cut.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/70451842.jpg)
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Pretty nice fit....
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/1900d459.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/ca042e0b.jpg)
Both pieces routed out.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/6cc95f4d.jpg)
Now I have to bed both of the fixtures in epoxy, then put in the screws.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/f8cb09e3.jpg)
After the epoxy dries I can put in the screws and glue on the end grain phenolic covers.
If it all comes together.....I can actually start making the bow.
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that is really awesome. what kind of screws are you using to secure these kind of take down mechanism?
do you suppose the ends could be carved out for this system?
-hov
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thats an awesome rig nosage. i wouldn't feel stupid about cutting a perfectly good stave in half. i done it but mine is a sleeve takedown system. you should check out my build here at the bowyers bench. ruddy
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this TD will be interesting for sure
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I'm using stainless steel machine screws, drilled and tapped.
I'm a firm believer that anything you can do with power tools you can do with hand tools.... sometimes faster. That said, I've screwed up putting this into a stave twice before. I also used to have it in a BBO, but the bow broke so I salvaged the connection system.
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Ruddy,
I've built a couple of sleeved takedowns. On both of them, the wood shrunk over the winter in the house (dry heat here in teh winter) and the sleeves came loose.
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pretty cool td
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Looking good!!
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Nice, well done!
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Greg in Malad... Light? Did you say light? :bigsmyl: Beautiful bow. I just love quilted maple. Used to make muzzle loader stocks with it and have done two bows
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Excellent, nosage.
Stan
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No-sage, I like this takedown system also, is it custom made or are they available through one of the many suppliers on this site? I've also had similar problems with the sleeve system.
Dan
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Dan,
It's called a bevellok. Kuston King sells them, but they're not cheap.
There used to be a web site for the manufacturer, but it seems to be closed down.
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Greg that is a beautiful bow! No-sage that take down hinge looks really cool.I cant wait to see how it turns out!
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I was wondering if you all think i should skin this bow with Flathead catfish skins or leave it as is? I hope i get the reply i am looking for. lol. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/tradebow2008.jpg) (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/tradebow2007.jpg)
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flatty for sure!
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skins!!!
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kerry skins but looks nice as is brock
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Dick,
Yes I did say light, although there is no chance of this bow being light enough for me. Quilted maple is one of my favorites even though it's a pain to work with. It burns in the drum sander quite easily and soaks up glue like a sponge. I use DER 383(epon)/versamid instead of smooth-on for quilted maple. This bow took 3 coats of glue before it stopped soaking in and would stand on the surface. With smooth-on I always get some dry speckles under the glass, this glue up came out flawless. It was a good day.
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Kerry,
When in doubt, skin it out.
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Wow, a few days away and look at all I missed :bigsmyl:
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Some awesome bows coming together here. I always vote for skins too, that pretty yellow wood will still show on the belly! Whoever ends up with that bow Greg's building is a lucky dog. Then again it is looking like everyone that signed ip
for the swap is gong to be pretty happy when the mailman brings the goodies to them.
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Wow look at all those bows. take downs and future skinned bows. This is great.
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Kerryb, I hope You put the Flathead skins on and please show us how You prep the skins.
Great bows everyone I hope by next year I can play along. Keep up the good work and thanks for all the pics and advice.
bretto
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No-sage, thanks for the info on the bevellok system. The next time I have some billets to join, I'll be giving it a try.
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Very nice work guys! You are making this difficult for those of us that have very little experience. I've got a couple of "practice bows" to do and then a little experimentation before I start my trade bow. Hopefully the experience will get me some skills.
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im sure a machinist could work something up like this fairly easily.
lookin great though , nice to see some different options
-hov
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Spacers, end grain covers glued in place.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/8c5de26c.jpg)
Extra phenolic ground off.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/c557cd66.jpg)
Fit came out good. It's hard to get the machining depth perfect so that there are no gaps in between the spacers. If you go too deep, the halves won't go together, if you go too shallow, there'll be a gap between the spacers. I left a bit of a gap and let the epoxy fill it up while the spacers got glued on. You use the joint to hold the spacers in place when you glue them on. That's when you can make it back into a one piece if you're not careful.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/adba01ba.jpg)
Alignment is good and the stave feels very solid when the joint is fully seated. No movement side to side when the stave is shaken.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/ff7fb6bd.jpg)
And after all this work, I've got a takedown stick.
Hope I can make it into a good bow.... if not.... plan B.
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Well no-sage,
it is for the bowyer on the go who can lug around a full lenght stave. Does it come with a carring case.
It looks like you have done this before. I cant wait to see more.
God Bless and Happy Building,
Kelly
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Wowed again, Keith! :notworthy:
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no kiddin that is an awesome system. and a wonderful lookin stave to work with to boot. i cant wait to see what it looks like finished. ruddy
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Some nice work goin here!!
I'm gettin closer to startin, glued the UBI bow up last nite, shot it about an hour ago. Gotta sand sand sand and spray it (and another one I have been workin on for a while!)
Then off to fix my junk knee,then on to the swap bow!
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Well I got some time to to finally pick out the stave for my swap bow.
Plenty of character for sure.
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradestave3.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradestave2011.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradestave20112.jpg)
She's gonna get some skins and maybe flipped tips. We'll just have to see what she wants to be.
Stiks
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i got an osage stave from sticks-n-strings a few days ago. about got it turned into a bow blank. i wiil show pics in a few days. ruddy
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How do like shuckin that bark and sapwood Ruddy. Was ther plenty of meat for more than one good stave? If not we may have to do some trading as to keep you in Osage LOL
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Well, here it is. Sanded and ready for sealer and filler. From the looks of the wenge it will take about 100 filler coats, that stuff is as porous as a gravel pile. It finished up one pound under maximum, I hope it will work. I will have the finish sprayed on in a couple weeks.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/100_1018.jpg)
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/100_1033.jpg)
And a close-up of the wenge just because I like how it looks
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Looks great greg. Excellent job on those tips. Looks like another happy swapper on the horizon
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That wenge is dizzyilg Greg. You better put a warning on it for tree stand hunters. d;^)
Can we see a braced, unbraced and full draw pics.
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very nice greg.
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Pat,
This is a different bow from the same form, and I already had the photos in photobucket.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/pirate%20bows/100_08401024x570.jpg)
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Beautiful bow Greg! That wenge is awesome!
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Greg, that form produces one of the most graceful bows I've seen in some time! Beautiful lines...er, curves! :clapper:
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Sweet looking bows, well done.
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Great looking bows! I like both wood combinations.
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All I can say is Wow that is a nice looking bow Greg.
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Wow Greg! Somebody is gonna be really happy!
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Yeah, I am going to be happy with this one Greg, Thanks
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Ranger,
Print the page, pin it up and it's all yours. I put the first 5 filler coats on today, only 95 more to go. Well maybe not that many, but the wenge sure soaks up the finish.
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Greg, The wood combo on both bows look GREAT!!! Can't wait to see the finish on.
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Originally posted by No-sage:
Hope I can make it into a good bow.... if not.... plan B.
plan b == takedown firewood?
love that spacer/plate fittment.
-hov
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"Wow!", all Johnny could say was, "Wow!".
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Lookin great everyone ! Snowstorm on the way, hope to get some shop time tomorrow :thumbsup:
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greg u did a real nice job on those i relley like em brock
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I dont know what to say other than WOW!!! those are some AWSUM BOWS!!
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Nice bows, guys... I have to stop looking on here or I'll never get started on a bow. Can't tell if these are more motivational or intimidating! Beautiful bows.
Stan
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Well just a little tally
84 boywers 1 recieved bow, one shipped bow and a finished bow waiting to be shipped
Just thougt yall might like to know. Oh and a heck of a lot of bows on the Bench. :)
God Bless and Happy building,
Kelly
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Got a bit of work done here the past couple of hours. She's 51 lbs @ 20" with an extremely long string. ;) There's a good picture of where a flat spot would be going along the growth rings. Cut out a knot there and if I was just looking at the limb I would leave it without any dips in the belly. But since the back jumps up as well I'll do my best to follow. Still got a bit more wood removal before I can even think about making a string or bracing it up. Although we are getting close.
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lookin good to me so far goose. i have to say i wouldnt be lookin at draw wieght on the long string at this moment , id be lookin for equal tip movement and arc of circle until you get it braced on the short string.. you rough shaping and the way the belly looks so far ar awesome. i can see you are on your way to an awesome selfbow. ruddy
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I'm working on getting a good bend but also not pulling over my intended draw weight (which may or may not be over 50lbs). I'm talented at pulling way too much on a long string. Just getting an idea :D
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Because of the leverage of the limbs and the angle of the string a long string will give you a false weight reading. Like Ruddy said get her to a short string and low brace. Checking weight with the bow braced will give you a more accurate reading even at a low brace height.
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Well I'm bummed out tonight. My swap bow developed a hinge. After 2 pretty BBO's the past 2 months, I got stupid today. Live and learn and start on another I say:)
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Wow some more nice looking bows coming together.
Greg, those are beauties.
Goose looking real good.Like Pat said get to short string ASAP.
I got some Buffalo sinew pounded and stripped today. I'll do a little more tomarrow and start getting that bow sinewed.
Do most people here know how to prepare sinew or should I post pics of that process as well?
Roy,Sorry to hear that. Thats bow building, Sometimes your in the grove and everything clicks and other days you go back to school. Happens to us all.
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Always interested in pics Keenan!
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I hate drying wood. Its like watching paint dry. :banghead:
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Well Roy sorry to hear that but you get to start a new one. Goose you got a good start on a bow so far.
God Bless and Happy Building,
Kelly
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Heres where I am so far.Ive got my profile cut out of bamboo.Ive thinned the bamboo from handle to tip on the belt sander.Ive ran the toothing plane over the boo,yew core and hickory belly stock. Using a toothing plane was a new experience for me. It worked great once I got the feel for it. I was planning on using shrink wrap as a clamp,but the more I think about it I might be better off to use another type of clamping system that way I do not have to cut the profile out of the yew and belly wood until after glue up,I feel this would leave a little margin for error such a slippage.(but im afraid if I use just shrink wrap without cutting the complete profile out first it wouldnt clamp tight enough.Is this correct?).For glue Im using urac 185.Im going to reflex the tips using a board form with 3" blocks at the tips.Im undecided weather to put any deflex in it.If I choose to only put reflex in it do I still need to clamp the limb down to my form at mid limb or just the handle area? I know I need to use c- clamps for the handle regardless. Are spring clamps strong enough to get a good glue line on the limbs them selves? I was thinking of using both shrink wrap and spring clamps?Any tips will be greatly appriciated.Sorry for the long winded post.Thanks, Scott (http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu154/618scottm/bowbuild3.jpg)
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If you don't mind me saying you will be better served making the yew your belly wood and the hickory the core. Yew is strong in compression and hickory is not. Boo is very strong in tension and can overpower the less strong belly wood. The core(center lam) hardly has any stresses on it and hickory will be fine for that.
Whatever you decide, good luck on your build and keep us informed on your progress and din't forget the pics.
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oooo a boo/hick/yew d-bow. sounds like you drew ruddy...199# @ 30" ... mmmmmmm.....
i got the bark of the LOG that dvs sent me. couple borer trails , and got one corner down with my hunting knife and scraper , just to see what yeller wood looked like. i liken it to seeing a flake of gold in a pan. my heart started racing.
looking around for a draw knife , in case i dont get the one im looking at... theres no other way im going to be able to work on this. a sureform didnt work , and a rasp just sounds like blasphemy...
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I know what you mean Roy, I had my trade bow tillered out to 28", 49# put some deer antler tip overlays on , put it back an tillering tree, to check everything, and "BAM" one limb went South , the other North, still looking for the Riser. So its back to work on another.
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Hova,
If I had an extra drawknife to send to you I would have. It must be torture having that log stare at you.
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Tradbower: Do you mind taking pictures of the blowup? I seem to learn from others "opportunities for experience"
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The bamboo let go, the pieces will make good kindeling wood,
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Ouch, sorry bout that, hope that you didn't get hurt in the blowup.
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that stinks. looks like it woulda been great.
@dvs : it was , until i found my hunting knife. then like i said it was even worse knowing thar's gold in them rings!
@ vanilla : i hadnt thought of a lawnmower blade. i dont know how many of these i have sharpened so much they wore out , and ended up throwing away. i used to do lawn commercially. i know a new one for a gravely is only about 8$ , so i might have to pick one up for other projects.
already had a couple members offer them , both free and for cost. if i end up getting one for free , my swap will be only possible cause of the courtesy of members here sending things. i think the only thing i bought besides some b50 , is a set of chainsaw files. oh , and my sureform. everything else has been donated , so its only appropriate that my swap build is built from these tools. toss in the knowledge that has been volunteered so freely , and you got a community bow.
i guess its name will be "It takes a village" or i guess it should be "It takes a tradgang"
-hov
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WooHoo ! Just picked up a long white tube from the P.O.
Thanks to Dick in Seattle for the nice longbow.He has plenty
of pictures on his post,Dick's bow swap pt. 2. I couldn't get
outside fast enough to shoot a few arrows through it,and it shoots as good as it looks.Thanks again Dick.
Larry
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You Luckey Dog Reb!!!! Ill bet it will shoot even better than it looks. :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by Keenan:
Wow some more nice looking bows coming together.
Greg, those are beauties.
Goose looking real good.Like Pat said get to short string ASAP.
I got some Buffalo sinew pounded and stripped today. I'll do a little more tomarrow and start getting that bow sinewed.
Do most people here know how to prepare sinew or should I post pics of that process as well?
Roy,Sorry to hear that. Thats bow building, Sometimes your in the grove and everything clicks and other days you go back to school. Happens to us all.
Post pics with a short "How To" in the Bowyers Bench if you would please. I don't have any plans to use it anytime soon, but would enjoy the how to none the less. Can't never have too much info tucked away in memory. :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by vanillabear?:
Hova, I made my draw knife from a lawnmower blade. just cut out the shape you want, add some handles and sharpen. Mine's pretty ugly but gets the job done. Got the old rusty lawnmower blade for free. If you have a way to cut steel (dremel, angle grinder, hacksaw, etc.) you could make your own.
Hey VB.....Me Too! That's what I've been using since day one! Works great and I love the angle of my handles better than any original shaped draw knife. I also use mine as a large scraper to take off lots of material using it straight up on edge.
This is too weird, small world? :rolleyes:
Lawnmower blades work awesome and hold an edge pretty dang good! Simple as heck to make, just cut out the general shape with a grinder, weld some short pieces of round stock on each side for handles, then sharpen and get to hacking away!!
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tradbower,
That break looks more like a belly blowout than a bamboo failure. Sometimes it's hard to diagnose a failure, but knowing what to look for can help out on the next bow.
The way the bamboo is sheared almost straight across leads me to believe it's a result, not a cause. When a backing goes it will usually splinter up, look almost frayed. When the break is clean like that, it tells me that the belly went first (crushed, blew out a chunk) then the backing snapped clean because there was nothing supporting it.
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No-sage, to me it looks like it went at a node.
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Posted a short "How To" thread showing the sinew process, as requested by Semo.
Here she is sinewed.
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Keenan, I am looking forwar to seeing this one.
Oh ya, I love the stave bench, anvil, I-beam bench,vise....I figured you had to have a section in your shop for metal work too. :thumbsup:
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Walt Iwas just noticing all of those goodies too. :D
Gonna go check out the sinew thread.
Stiks
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I cant wait to see this one. Didn't I tell yall REBbowhunter was going to love that bow from Dick.
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I think I have my trade bow stave picked out. It is a belly split osage with nice rings and a little character.
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Sorry Pete, I know how you feel. I love BBO bow's, but sometimes they go Bang:)
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scrub-buster, that is one nice piece of osage, sure will make one nice looking bow, way to go.
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Thanks Keenan, I'm off to check it out right now.
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Got a little work done, tip overlays on, and one limb skinned. (http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy292/kerryb19/TradeBowSkins005.jpg)
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Looking good :clapper: What sorta skin is that?
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looks like flathead to me!
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Well folks, my trade bow just blew. HHB 65" t/t had, it tillered to 55# @28" was shooting it in when the top limb exploded into 3 pcs. with no warning. There was a small pin knot on the edge of that limb that seems to be where it left go.
Started the next one, hackberry with flipped tips.
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wow dan gald you are ok. Hope the hackberry works out better.
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Sorry Dan. Better luck with the next one.
Will you post pics of the break from a few angles. Breaks can be great learning tools.
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should be a sticky for broken bows. call it the experts textbook or something...
picked up some t-nocks (5/16 and 11/32) , some string wax , some braided bohning serving , and a couple craft items (feathers were a waste of money when i saw pink 4" parabolics for 4.99 @ ripoff mountain) . instead i paid 4$ for 12 imitation eagle feathers. they will work just fine , but those precuts were purrrrrrrdy. almost got guinea feathers , but they looked a little rough.
osage is "drying" out since bark removal.perfecting my string making technique.
keep the pics coming , and that hackberry sounds like it will be nice.
-hov
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I don't have photobucket set up yet, I should have time tomorrow. Hope to get those pictures up then......Dan
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Glad your ok...I usually blow'em up quit a bit.
Better luck with the next one.
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Got a bit of scraping done today. Not a bunch but I had another pressing matter in a junior high kid itching to get his bow done. I've got it to a brace height of 1 1/2". There are a few dips and jumps from cutting out a couple of knots. I heat straightened the limb without the swoops and it looks to track fairly well but I did notice it starting to twist.
I think I'm supposed to take wood off the high side if I remember right. I vote of confirmation would help me jump on the next step. Just adding some pictures for the frequent viewers like me :D
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I got a chance to see kerry's swap bow today. The skin looks great. It's gonna make for one happy fellow!
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goose your bow is coming along nicely. if you have a tillering gizmo it takes some of the guesswork out of it. eric krewson came up with a great tool no doubt. ive been using bernies. ruddy
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yeah the gizmo helps lots , ive been trying to shape mine a little more finely , so that it goes up into the fades , but the only way i have gotten it to work in the fades is to put a hole close to one edge , like an inch in. its not finalized so if you try it and it screws your bow up , dont blame me.
today is one of those blah days. i have b50 , wax , serving , and some nice new t-nocks , but i think i may have set my motivation down somewhere and im not sure where...
my day can be summed up by Walter Sobchak...
"ah , f@^* it dude . lets go bowling..."
-hov
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It's getting tough to keep up with the different posts/bows!!!
Kerry, nice looking job of skinning that one. I was wondering where the wife is? I showed the pic to my wife and the first thing she said was, " In the kitchen. And such a nice kitchen, too!"
Sorry about the blow-up, Dan. Glad you're okay. Better luch with this one.
Goose, looks good. Where do you get your 'sage from up there?
Stan
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Red hill, my wife is into bow building as well, she doesn't yell to much about it as long as i clean my mess up.
Thanks everyone for the nice compliments, I just hope my recipient likes it.
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Hova: Definitely have a tillering gizmo. Great item.
Red Hill: My family has farms in Northwest MO that I was able to cull some big chunks from during deer season this year and last. Some of it is dry enough to start working on. I know I drive by a plethora of horseapples right near my house on private land for sale and they want to keep them. I've already asked :(
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Ok here's whare im at.Pics shold tell the story.BUT PLEASE TELL ME URAC 185 SHOULD LOOK LIKE RUNNY P-NUT BUTTER WHEN MIXED UP!Beacause thats what mine looked like.I mixed 13-100 ratio like the can said by weight in grains.I then spred it on with a pop sickle stick to both faces of each piece.Then wrapped in shrink wrap and clamped.I guess well fined out in the morning if it worked. (http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu154/618scottm/drying.jpg)
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Runny peanut butter!!!
I thought it was more like melted chocolate. Thats a good looking profile, It should be a good shooter.
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i love the looks of that one. that thing is just gorgeous...
-hov
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Broken bow pics. (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3383_edited-1.jpg)Still haven't got the sizing down yet. (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3377_edited-1.jpg)My thoughts are that it broke at the small knot on the edge. (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3381_edited-1.jpg) Thanks in advance for your comments.
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It's going around !
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Time to start another one, don't let it get ya down !
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Ouch!You Guy's are making me nervous!
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It happens, best to just move on :thumbsup:
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You guys with the broken bows had better not jinx me. I just sprayed the last coat of epoxy on my swap bow, I don't need it breaking now.
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Better now than after you send it off! d;^)
Guys, at least you still have 5 months to get one finished! Now, get back to work! d;^)
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Former, Sorry about the big bang, :rolleyes: Like Pat said jump back on the horse. :bigsmyl:
Dan, Same as well. Much better to blow in the process then when your all finished and shooting her in.
Kerry those skins look great! Looking forward to seeing how that turns out.
Some great work going on. I decided to add another layer of sinew to the bow for ,,,,,,,,, :bigsmyl: It looked just a hair light in a few spots and I wanted a little more reflex. She should have some nice reflex when this second layer cures out. Still haven't decided on what is going over the sinew but should be fun. :eek:
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I broke a piece of cherry trying to dry fit it to my new Binghams hybrid form... Nixed that idea and went back to my old ways and have on gluing up right now with simply 3" of reflex. Hopefully it will hold! I'd post a pic, but right now it looks a lot like scottm's pic with about 100 clamps holding things together.
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well those are the breaks sometime. If it were easy they would be more on here doing it. Now you now want you need to do, hope to it.
Happy Building and God Bless,
Kelly
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hey now!~ you guys are makin em.
im going to do a little smoke cleansing of my work area , to make sure all the negative energy is gone. i even have a guy coming too wash the place down really good , with holy water...
im gonna need all the help i can get...
-hov
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Hova, be careful getting that holy water on an already dries stave. Could cause it to check! d;^) A little shellac on the back will protect it!
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O no worries, i have a few more in the works !
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guess I need to get to it you guys are makin' and breakin' and I've been busy working on my new archery shack for all my bow and arra makin activities.
Stiks
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Excuses, excuses!!!
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Heading down to the shop now to see how my glue up turned out... Hopefully I'll get to spend a few hours on it today before I have to go back to work tomorrow!
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im headed out to the bench now , do a bit of hefty sapwood removal with a hunting knife and well oiled rasp...probably the 4 in 1 cause it removes less wood than my mill file...go figure...
hopefully the baby doesnt wake up. the basement is like right where the garage stops , so the noise just reverberates all through the chincy walls. puh lease dont wake up. i need some me time...lol
just using a little spice incense to cleanse the karma around the bench. there was some negative energy hangin around from that locust i was going to use...
-hov
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Here it is. It will take a couple days for the finish to cure, that will give me time to build a string and find a carpet tube for shipping. I will be sending a pm to the new owner before shipping, I wouldn't want this to sit on the porch for 2 weeks while ?????? is on vacation.
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Very nice, I'm sure who ever is goes to they will be watching the mail after the PM.
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(LOW WHISTLE)
Man that is PURTY. That quilted maple is super under clear glass.
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That's a stunning bow, Greg. Any chance of a full draw ipc and maybe a braced and unbraced profile shot?
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What a beauty!!! Someone will be happy.
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That is NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!, Well done.
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Nice Bow!!!!!! I wouldnt mind another email! :bigsmyl:
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Wow :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the words of encouragement guys!!
Greg, that sure is a beauty, I'd be honored to have it come my way.
Formerbutcher, any idea what caused yours to blow?
Like you, I have several in the works, next up is the hackberry with the flipped tips.
I'll try to get a pic of it on the tree later this evening......Dan
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Dan, impatience is what caused my to blow,trying to get it to brace when it wasn't ready :knothead:
I see a couple of Atlatls in that bows future :thumbsup:
Good luck on the next one !
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Greg, That is sweet. Love colors.
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Beautiful Bow Greg
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That is great Greg! A beautiful combination for sure!
I'm heading back to the drawing board......
Got mine tillered out to around 22" and she was coming in pretty light then to top it of started developing a hinge. There is no way I can make weight after fixing the hinge so back to the start! :(
I'll make this one in to a light bow for one of the kiddos at the local shop so all is not lost. :)
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Here are some pics of the second round. It is hackberry 67" t/t, pulling just over 45# @28". Wanted a little more weight, hopefully when I heat treat it, it will pick up a few pounds.
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NICE. Looking good.
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Awsum job Greg!
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Looking good Dan!
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Looks nice !
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Darn, Greg... that's a gorgeous bow! You had to go and show the poundage, though... until that pic I could still hope it was below 30! :^) Some lucky guy's gonna be happy!
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Thanks guys.
This is the first time I used wenge and I really like it. Sorry Dick, but if you look at the photo in the mirror it reads 25#
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Well I thought about it and said I can, so I mixed up some glue for this blow up,
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did a little sanding and piecing back together and this is what I came up with,
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hope it hold up this time. :archer:
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Im starting over my self. Bow came out of the form with nice glue lines.Everthing looked great(other than it came out very heavy).I started tillering.First floor tiller,then moved to my tillering tree on the wall.I first started trying to get the limb tips to roll out.(this is a r/d bamboo backed hickory with a yew core).I kept taking a little wood off at a time and exrcising the limbs at least 30 times between wood removal,and I never drew it over my target weight.Tiller looked good and even but I could not get the tips to roll open far enough past the riser so I could get a short string on it.(I think I put too much reflex (3.5")in it with too little deflex(3/4"),the tips just did not want to come past the handle)Finally after many hours of tillering the limbs started rolling open.As soon as they opened all the way up to all most a strait out position(again they were both still even)they just layed down and the bow lost 15#'s instantly.The limbs did not hinge or break. But at this point I had a stupid attack and thought dang this bow is going to come out to light.Instead of trying to put a short strung on it i took in to the band saw and cut the riser off of it.im now trying to glue an 1/8" lamb of osage on the belly to see if I can save it.We'll just have to see what happens.Ill just have to start another bow.
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Scott, Looking at the pics of your glue up I think where the limbs reflexed was too abrupt/angular. R/D's can lose weight quick if your not careful.
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Greg you know ********** is going to love that bow. Shoot me a PM when you send it Please and I will up date your information.
Dan I can't wait to see that Hackberry. KS is full of the stuff. I have 5 trees on my property there and 3 are Hackberry. All tall and straight.
Looking good bowyers.
Happy Building,
Kelly
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Wow, sorry about the fellas that had bad luck and broken egos with those bow explosions. :eek:
That is making me nervous, just like Hova I think I need to burn some sage around in my garage and have the local minister come over for a prayer meetin'...lol
Greg, you hit my draw wt. and draw length perfect with that bow, I'm going to be real proud to give that beauty a nice home! :thumbsup:
Just kiddin' you did an awesome job and that riser is just too cool. I've never seen a wood that is almost mesmerizing to look at like that before, kinda like a 3D effect? Good choice.
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Good looking bows! And good looking blowups. It is kind of an adrenaline rush when one go's bang but it is still disheartening. Part of it though :D
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Dan thats a slick lookin bow
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Sticks, you must be talking from experience, you got the sequence right: adrenaline rush, then dishartening, one second your standing there at full draw, the next your holing the arrow in one hand and the bottom limb in the other, with a pile of pcs. at your feet.
Thanks everyone for all the good comments on the hackberry bow, we'll see how well she takes heat treating.
Kelly, this is my first time working with hackberry, but so far I like it. The grain is somewhat interwoven, when I was narrowing the thickness with a draw knife it pulled some splinters, till I got them worked out I was at the lower end of my desired weight. When you get home and work yours down I'd suggest using a rasp to get your thickness, just to be safe.....Dan
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I haven't had one blow up yet, but it very well could have on my first ever osage selfbow. I cut through a knot and of course after shooting it for about a week a splinter started down from the edge and into the ring. I'm glad I noticed it in time or I'm sure it would have came apart eventually. I managed to repair it with some flax comb, but I don't shoot it anymore. It's a clear reminder of what "NOT" to do, and I learned from it. Vowing to never make that mistake again, so it's all good.......gotta break some eggs if you want to make a cake.
I'm proud of your all's positive attitudes and willingness to keep trying, I know how frustrating it feels believe me.
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Got the clamps off looks like the patchs have held. Glued on some horn tip overlays will let dry till tomorrow. will post some pics of profile and full draw, if all the patches hold.
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i like that. i really need to get out there...
-hov
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Well this is how this patch job turned out.
46@28 Boo backed Brazilan Cherry
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Good repair, is this just a practice run bow?
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No I think its a keeper. just some sanding and putting a finish on it.
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Dan very nice bow,great lines and nice curves.
Trad, that is some nice contrast. Looking good, can't wait to see her with some finish.
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Pete, it looks like it's hinged just past the fades with very little bend in the outer 2/3 of the limbs. Did it blow on the inner 1/3? Any close-up pictures of the repair?
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Greg - I love that bow!!! Very well done. Next weekend I plan to start my build and hope it turns out half as nice.
I'll be waiting for my PM from ya Greg ;)
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Keenan, thanks for the comments they are certainly much appreciated, especially coming from a master like you.
I just took it off the form after heat treating, can't wait till it rehydrates to see how much draw weight I picked up, finish tillering, and to start shooting it in. I have a little work to do to get the string to track better though, not off much, but those recurves make it touchy.....Dan
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Trad that bow sure does mighty fine. Man oh man someones going to get very lucky.
Shawn
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Take two!
I was getting ready to ship the bow when I noticed something wrong. In direct sunlight I could see tiny air bubbles in the glue joints. What happened is I used a 36 grit belt for the core laminations and it left grooves big enough to trap air, despite using twice as much glue as normal. I figured if there was a half dozen bubbles visible on the surface, then there must be a bunch inside the limb. Since I wont risk having a bow break I'm starting another. Now to find a use for a new box of 36 grit belts.
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Well now Greg I think you just like building them. Can't wait to see how the next one turns out.
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That's to bad Greg, but a good catch. I don't know much about glass bows, so I don't know if it would hurt anything.
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I think Greg wanted to keep that bow for himself! I don't blame you bro she is GORGEOUS.
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I'm not in on the swap...thought I'd stop by and see what you fellas were up to...
Some really nice work going on ..
Best wishes to both sides, maker and receiver...
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I hope it holds up for ya trad, I like the yellow overlays on the belly side, is that Osage?
Also what Koche said, it appears a bit flat in the outer 2/3 of the limbs. Can you get that bending a bit more or will it drop you below your target wt. too much?
I think if you got that part flexing more evenly it would take some stress off your fades and the next 8" after the fades, that looks like it might be under alot of pressure?
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Dang sorry to hear about the air bubbles Greg. Would it really hurt the performance of the bow?
I'd be happy to field test it for a couple of years if your looking for a guinea pig. :rolleyes: :thumbsup:
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Greg, what size are your 36 grit belts?
Sorry you had troubles but good for you for catching it and making the decission to get it right!
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Greg, sorry to hear about the bubbles, like Ranger, I don't know much about glass bows, but I assume nothing can be salvaged to use in the next one? I'm sure the next one will be just as nice, without the bubbles of course. Good Luck!!! Dan
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Pat,
The belts are 2" wide, marked for a delta 18-36.
Semo,
It might cause problems or it may not, I cant look inside the limb to see how many bubbles are there. A limb is under some serious stress and I'm not the type of guy that could shrug and say "oh well" if it smacks somebody in the head. Or worse yet, if it hits their kid or grandchild in the head.
Building another bow is cheap peace of mind, and Kelly is right I do enjoy building bows.
If you look close you can see multiple bubbles in the glue lines. I never had this problem with a 60 grit belt, so that is what I will stick with.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1062.jpg)
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Bummer Greg, that one is too pretty to leave standing in the corner.
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Man what a bummer. After seeing that Wenge I went to the store and picked up a 1/4 in. piece for handle overlays, and a few pieces of zebrawood as well.
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Lane,
Instead of standing it in the corner I was thinking of tying the tiller tree to the fence and seeing how far this bow will draw before it breaks. I've never had a longbow break so I dont really know where the limit is.
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Send it to me Greg, I'll stest it for a while. Please don't break that thing. I think I'm in love.
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That would be a neat test Greg, but it seems a shame to destroy such a work of art. It would still bring someone joy if for nothing more than a decoration in their den.
It's your choice, but I just find myself thinking PLEASE DON'T KILL THAT BEAUTIFUL BOW :pray:
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Greg,
Are you using a rubber band or an air hose form? I have used 40 grit on the lambs for my last half dozen bows and got clean, thin, lines everywhere. Are they maple cores?
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I'm yanking yer chain guys, there's a reason I've never broke a bow, I just cant do it.
Walt,
I use an air hose form and yes they are maple. I think the problem was that the belts are actually coarser than 36. I stopped at Binghams and compared laminations(Elmont uses 36 grit belts) and mine were much coarser. I mean by about double.
Anyway, I have always used 60 grit and been happy with it, so I will stick with it.
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sounds to me like you got 3.6 grit...
-hov
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Send that bow to Kelly and let him break it in:)
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Hova, I think your right. With some duct tape I think I could use them for tire chains.
Roy, The problem is I dont trust the bow.
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Greg
I think that was Roy's plan. Notice how he smiled when he said break her in. He knows I would have to shot it. Jokes on Roy I would use my full kit. ballistic helmet, eye pro, ballistic vest, and gloves. Plus I am a lefty. Thanks Roy you are a true pal, now circle me them bubbles . LOL
Happy Building and God Bless,
Kelly
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thats a pic i want to see , a buy with a stick on the tree , with the flak jacket and brain bucket...
lol...i was out there yesterday scraping thhrough sapwood , and i dont know if inhaling the dust is bad , but my head feels like its going to 'splode todaY...
-hov
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That dust ain't good for you Hova. Some guys here have developed allregic reactions to some bow woods. Ipe is a bad one and from what I have read yew ain't real good either. Them yeller boogers ain't real good either.
I recommend a dust mask at the very least.
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I secretely poised that stave Hova. I didn't think you'd catch on this quick. :biglaugh:
Seriously though, like sticks said some people are allergic to it. Luckly I'm not. Suit up and wear a mask, it'll be worth it.
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Osage dust makes me feel like I have a cold, yew dust makes me feel like I'm gonna die. Wear a dust mask whenever you sand. Scrapers and draw knives don't make dust - just shavings - much safer.
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Sure is cool watching all these sticks gettin built. I have a few days off coming next weekend and am looking forward to getting my buddies bow done so that I can focus on my BBI for the swap. Lots of good ideas here have caused me to change my mind a dozen times about what I am gonna build....sigh
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I got to do a little work today in between repairing my clothes dryer and building my beehive.
It's roughed out, ready for a bit more drying upstairs in the heat, then to floor tillering.
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/91792a4a.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/b4eafa99.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/297a634d.jpg)
(http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab28/kdeters/TG%20Bow%20Swap/3e893551.jpg)
Now I think I'll spend some time on that guitar in the background. I've only been working on it for 5 yrs or so. :help:
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i have only been usin a hunting knife and a scraper. i rasped a couple times , and might have sanded once , but i think its just the dust in the garage. i only had yella boogers the one time i sanded , so i knew what was up , but i looked to se if theres oils or something in it that would make ya sick , and its basically only certain woods , and im not allergic to much if anything.
im headin out now to do a little more chasing. i really want to cut this monster in half , but im gonna be prudent and get iit down to a ring (3rd or 4th down from the back). theres a few checks in the one end , but i know there is at least one bow in this giant "stave"...
just a side note , if anyone ever wants to buy some osage , dvs sent what looks like it was a qaurter or fifth of a rather large osage. not much twist at all , and the rings are just beautiful.
i bet i can split the belly down and still have a nice snakey oswage stick for my youngin.
someone is gonna be happy...
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Home renovation is almost there. Moved about a quarter of our stuff in. New garage door and opener come next. Then, wood shavings. Man it can't come soon enough sometimes.
Hope my guy like's green....
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Well I been working on my trade bow but I got a problem.
I have a new computer with windows 7 and I am having all kinds of problems uploading pics to a server.
Any advice? Stiks
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Stiks I have window 7 on mine and have not had any issue useing photo bucket or flicker. What is the issue?
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Just off a whim it could be explore settings
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I'm getting almost done with tillering. She pulls 50#@26" now and the tips are lined up well. I put about 25 shots through her yesterday and am pleased with the results.
I still have to reduce the weight a few more pounds. I'm not sure if I will give her a heavy heat treating or not. Might just set the reflex a bit but I'm still trying to decide.
I have an idea for her dress-up too. I'll be playing with one of them to see how practical it will be and how well it will work out.
I'll try to get some pics out soon.
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It appears that the building has stalled.
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I have my zebrawood/black phenolic handle glued up to the cherry on attempt number 2... I have to get over to my dads place to work out my hickory backing strip on his planer. Things should start moving pretty quickly after I finish the glue up. Hopefully I can make weight this time!
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Originally posted by KellyG:
It appears that the building has stalled.
Yeah mine is all tillered and just waiting finishing. I put down for a bit to take my time. I want it to come out a best as it can. Plus it helps me with my patience while bow building.
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Here's a question for the osage bowyers.
I harvested an osage tree in December. The log provided 5 staves. I selected the one that appeared to be the least desirable and started working it down after about 4 weeks.
Now that I am attempting to chase a ring, the stave appears to be twisting and curving. I suspect this is from drying and it is understandable.
My question is in regards to the length of an osage bow. The stave is around 76" long and 3-4" wide for most of that length. TBBI recommends a 63" bow for my 26" draw length.
Could I go shorter?
Maybe leave the limbs a little wider than I had planned?
I'm using this stave as practice while I allow the better staves to season more thoroughly for my attempted TG swap bow.
Thanks,
Stan :help:
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My stave is ruined. It split like crazy. It was cut a year and a half ago. It was a belly split and the back was never sealed. I took it down to the growth ring above the one that I wanted a week or two ago. I didn't think I would have to seal it since it was never sealed from the beginning, and it only had one small crack on one end. Anyway, I took it out to work on it today, and this is what I found.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC11357.jpg)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC11356.jpg)
Oh well. It will make some fine firewood. Back to the beginning. Luckily I have some emergency osage.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC11358.jpg)
I split it into 3 staves. They are all 84" long, so I have plenty to work with.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC11359.jpg)
2 are straight and clean, and one has some character near the center.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC11361.jpg)
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Scrub-buster,
Osage holds its moisture like crazy. I'm not sure but it looks to me like that stave just dried really quick all of a sudden. Did you bring it from outside to inside? Indoor air is real dry around here this time of year. Like 30-40% RH or even less. You should see the floating door panels on my cabinets. They have shrunk by 3/8".
If you take a green stave down to a ring, seal it or get it down to floor tiller quickly. I bet you can still make a bow out of it. Keep the checks as close to the center as possible and wrap where they run off. Good luck with the reserve cache.
I haven't started in earnest on my trade bow yet. I have some great ideas and a cool piece of wood though.
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John,
That stave is 1 1/2 years old. It has been inside since the day I cut it. It was a belly split off of another stave. The ends were sealed, but the back never was. All I did was remove two growth rings and it did this. I am not going to try to make a bow out of it. The entire thing has splits all over it. It had to be from moisture escaping. I stopped and bought a new can of shellac to use.
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Originally posted by KellyG:
It appears that the building has stalled.
I've been real busy with stuff,mostly work so far but think I have finally picked out the stave for the trade (but then I thought that with the other two also :knothead: ) Have it down to the ring above the one I want and have began to get it shaped out. Like John S. said have a few ideas I'm thinking of trying on this stave but we'll see.
I have been taking a few pics just have not got them down loaded. I was kinda waiting to make sure this stave was going to work out.
David
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To bad scrub-buster, but atleast you have more to work, i'm hopping to get in some shop time this weekend, been to busy workin the last to weeks.
I'll try and get some pics up Sunday :)
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Red Hill: Depending on how good your stave, design, and tillering are, you can easily get a 26" draw from an unbacked 60" stave. However, the shorter your stave gets the better all of the above have to be. Leaving it wider is a good choice. I've always favored a bit longer bow than needed, but have built a couple in the 59-60" range for my 26" draw. If you're wanting to build a bow to practice your skills, then I'd suggest leaving it longer than necessary. I'd even start at 68" and see where that gets you. If you come in under weight, pike it. If you come in dead on, you could still shorten it, retiller, and drop the weight.
Lastly, December until now isn't very long for that osage to dry out. You're experiencing that in the form of twisting. Rough out the bow, get it floor tillered, and then seal it with shellac, lacquer, etc. Give it some time to fully dry and then tiller your bow out.
Hope that helps. Just my humble opinion.
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Just got back from being gone for a week, The sinewed stave is looking good. Real nice sweeping reflex. Try to get some pics up soon. Got home to a bunch of snow! :eek:
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Originally posted by KellyG:
It appears that the building has stalled.
It's not stalled here. I have my second bow built, the sealer/filler coats are on and it's headed into the spray booth this weekend.
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I'll get back to it after GORH. Had to build a few for that event first.
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All I lack is to get a few pounds off , then get her dressed up for the prom. The bow is coming along well too! d;^)
I wrenched my back the other day so I'm giving it a good rest before I get back to the bow building.
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Moving in this weekend! Last things are the kitchen cabinets and tiling the bathrooms.
Did I ever tell you guys I hate renovations? lol
This bow will be a challenge for me cause my guy shoots OFF THE WRONG SIDE OF THE BOW. :knothead: I haven't made a lefty yet so this should be interesting. Hopefully, in about 2 weeks, i'll have pics of the progress. Keep em coming guys!
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Fish, the bow I built last year was a lefty too plus draw length to 30". I tillered it out to 30" on the tiller tree, exercised it a lot, shot it 100+ times but only to 26". When I sent it to OsageTree I made sure he knew it hadn't been shot out at full draw so asked him to work it out to his draw slowly like he was finishing it out himself.
If you can get the string centered, a properly spined arrow will shoot well from either side.
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Thanks, 4est. I could make it longer but there are a few nots to contend with.
Yep, your advice helps, always.
Stan
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I really want to work on mine but I need to get some materials first.
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im still waiting on the drawknife to show up , and looking at two prospective new jobs , so lots of interviews and things. either way im going to be way down on free time , but way up on money. which means i can get back into a house , get another vw , and get back to normal.
oh , and finish some bows...
-hov
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Nate, What materials are you needing? Maybe I can help.
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Keenan,
I need some bamboo. I've got about a month and a half before snake skin season ;) and then I'll be set.
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sorry Nate, can't help out there. I have a couple raw strips that are not in very good shape
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No problem Keenan, I appreciate you offering though:)
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Here are some pics of the riser woods to be used in my trade bow- birdseye maple and brizilan ebony.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/Brizilan%20Ebony/BrizilanEbony004.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/Brizilan%20Ebony/BrizilanEbony002.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/Brizilan%20Ebony/BrizilanEbony008.jpg)
Glued up a pair of risers- one has been used already the trade bow will get the other one.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/Brizilan%20Ebony/BrizilanEbony012.jpg)
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How does the ebony look under a finish, does it stay brown or does it go darker? I sprayed the last coat of epoxy on my trade bow today. In a couple hours I'll look it over and see if it's ok, cant ship a bow with a drip.
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Originally posted by GREG IN MALAD:
How does the ebony look under a finish, does it stay brown or does it go darker?
It takes a while after cutting and sanding for it to get dark again but it does- it doesn't turn black but it gets pretty close.
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I've been finishing up on my trap line (lots of beavers to skin and flesh) Then I got t ofinish up a few turkey calls. Been working on my swap bow a little and I'm still having trouble with pics and this new puter. :banghead:
Stiks
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Well it's finished, again.
I couldn't find any wenge so I used East Indian Rosewood and zebra for the riser with maple cores and quilted maple veneer for the limbs. There are photos on page 22 of brace and full draw.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1075.jpg)
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1080.jpg)
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1082.jpg)
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1087.jpg)
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The handle looks pretty good. How about the rest of the bow? Can we see an unbraced, braced and full draw pic?
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Pat, you type faster that I do. I edit the post to add photos, I dont know how to post everything at the same time.
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Wow is that sweet!!!!
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I know how much you guys like to be teased so here you go! She's getting close....
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TGtradebowelm001-1.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/TGtradebowelm002-1.jpg)
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Great job Pat! That baby is going to be a real looker! Art
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Not much more to go Art. I'm loving this elm too. Great bow wood. Yeah, I think she'll be a looker but that's not all! d;^)
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Pat,
Thats going to be really nice, and no set. I think I'll try to build one myself.
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Outstanding looking bows gentleman!
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Beautiful bow again Greg!
I started on my trade bow this weekend. It's a straight limbed Hill style longbow with walnut limbs, actionboo core, and curly maple riser. The glueup went well. However, I missed weight pretty badly and will need to make another. This one was a bit shorter than I usually make them, so I was trying to account for that in the total stack and I guess I missed it. It's about 10# too light.
My Dad has been toying with the idea of getting back into archery and this one will be a good weight for him. So I'll finish it out and give it to him for his birthday coming up.
I think my next attempt at my trade bow should come out better given my experience with this one. I plan on using the same materials and design and I figure if I want to gain 10-15# and assume 0.003 per pound in this style of bow, I should increase my total stack thickness by 0.030 - 0.045. How does this sound to you other glass laminated builders? - Just looking for some reassurance here.
John
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Beautiful bow again Greg!Looking great Pat love the tips!
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John,
.003 per pound is pretty close on a Hill style, my R/D is .0025 per pound.
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Greg, love the wood combinations on this one as well as the first, someone will be a happy camper when that arrives.
Pat, great work as always, looking forward to seeing her all dressed up.
My trade bow is coming in at the bottom end of my desired range, may have to shorten a little and re-bend the recurves. Will probably have to add some tip underlays to beef up the recurves, since they start to thin down just above the peak of the curve now and don't think they would handle the stress......Dan
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Looking good and comming alone nicely
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Great job Greg and Pat! Looking good guys.
Hey Pat.......could I get a little closer look at the back of that bow? Or did you purposely stay too far away so I couldn't see any detail? :saywhat:
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It's just a tease for now, Semo. All in due time! It won't be long before her coming out!
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Great work Pat, I can't hardly wait to see her in "full Arc".
I have a piece of Hickory that is calling to me now, thanks to you.
Take care.
Bert.
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Lookin great fellas :thumbsup:
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Here is a quick Photo history of where my trade bow is right now- I went with the birds eye maple over brazilan ebony in the riser- the limbs are bamboo lams and black glass:
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow005.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow007.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow015.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow016.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow019.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow018.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TG2011bow020.jpg)
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That's gonna be a sweet bow Trux!
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I shot it some yesterday along with my son- he tried to talk me out of it-lol. It will make the weight xxx requested- here it is with the first coat of sanding sealer on it- the ebony will get much darker then it is right now-
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011024.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011023.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011022.jpg)
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Awesome looking bows everyone. I"m still drying here!
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Very nice and good wood choices, but it's wrong handed.
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Some gorgeous work being turned out! There is a lot of talent here that's for sure. Should be able to start on mine next week :)
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That is beautiful Trux! I love the contrast in the wood colors.
I have my 2nd attempt trade bow glued up with 1 3/4" of reflex. I roughed it out yesterday and am going to try to get to floor tiller today...
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Originally posted by AKmud:
That is beautiful Trux! I love the contrast in the wood colors.
I agree :clapper:
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Thanks guys- now it has to wait until Friday when I until get back into town.
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She's a beauty, Trux!
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I'm a wood only guy but Greg and Trux those are sweet. A couple of people are going to be happy
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Greg and Trux, :thumbsup:
All these posts got me motivated last week:
I built a glass bow and finished sanding it out on Saturday, so it is ready for the final finish (along with two others), got a BBI glued up and started on the tillering tree, and several Osage selfbows through the floor tiller stage. I am limited on space so I usually wait until there are five or six finished bows before setting up the take down spray booth and then spray them all at the same time.
My Bow Build recipient did not specify what type of bow he prefers so I am making three different types, Glass R/D, BBI, and Osage selfbow, and will let him choose.
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All beautiful bows guys, I wish I was as talented as you all.
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Wow nice work guys, I have to finish a bow for a friend and do a couple more projects before I can start my trade bow. Now that my sons basketball season is over I'll have more time to get caught up, that is if it ever quits snowing!
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Lovin em all guys !
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Wow you guys have been busy..Very nice bows all of them. After 3 weeks of no time off I got lucky and got this weekend off and moved some stuff in the new shop.....Hope I can get started on mine here pretty quick.
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Well, I managed to get distracted working on my 4yo son's little 50cc 4-wheeler. It was his first time riding solo on it today and he figured out how to do donuts in about 10 seconds. It was fun to hear him giggling while he is spinning circles on the ice in our cul de sac. :)
On another note.... I managed to trade my 9" bandsaw to my father in law for his 12"! He wanted to go smaller and I felt the need to oblige. :) Now I have one less excuse tho...
A moose hunt this coming weekend may yield some sinew if I am lucky. Unfortunately my bow may not make floor tiller for a while.
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I'd put off floor tillering for a moose hunt any day! d;^)
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Dang Trux, those colors just really "Popped" when you hit them with finish. That's beautiful!
Walt- Sounds like you've been real busy? Talk about service with a smile, didn't what to bring to the party so I just went ahead and made 3 so you could have your pick.......Wow, you didn't get my name by any chance did ya?
:goldtooth:
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Looking good with those bows. Trux I no ******* is going to love that bow.
AKmud I have wore out at least on pair of boot in your neck. I hunted the Knik river valley a lot. Friday creek for sheep, and metal for moose. Heck my hunting partner came up missing in along the Knik on 2000, found my four wheeler but never found him. I would still love to hit friday creek for sheep agian. There were some full curls roaming up there.
Happy Building,
Kelly
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Hey guys,
I found the best shipping tube last week. It's a piece of 4" triple wall drain pipe, Lowes and Home depot carry it. It's as light as cardboard tube and much stronger, and $8 for a 10' length makes it affordable. Plus it can be used for arrow storage after the bow arrives, I used a piece wrapped in camo denim for a side quiver.
I shipped my trade bow today, maybe we will see some photos of the bow in action this weekend.
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Beautiful boe, Trux!
Stan
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Thanks for the tip Greg
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Greg, is that the rigit plastic pipe or the black plastic flexable drain pipe?
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Pat,
It's kind of both. It is built like cardboard, couragated in the middle with a thin coating inside and out. I'll post a photo when I get home from work.
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Great tip Greg!
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I went by Lowe's today but they didn't have it. They did have 3" and 4" thin wall PVC which I use for bow shiping tubes. I only ha a minute to look so didn't ask about the other. I'll go back when I have more time and ask.
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This is a view of the cross section.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1097640x480.jpg)
And a shot of the outside.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1096480x640.jpg)
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Thanks. I'll see if I can find some.
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I use the same stuff for shipping longbows- it is normally used as sewer drain pipe-it comes in both 3 and 4" an is rated at 2200lb crush strength.
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After a couple weeks of a hectic schedule including lock-ins with junior high students, baby showers, and funerals I had some time this morning to work on the bow. I've got the tips thinned down, a final sand, and gave the handle a dry run. I'm about to spray on a finish and glue the handle wrap up and getting so close to sending it out.
Sad thing about it all is when I had the wife come see the bow shoot my first two shots were touching. Not sure if I can get rid of this one ;)
Here are a couple of pics of the handle wrap before the sanding was done.
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/3daa608b.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/b6da35cb.jpg)
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I had a little setback today. After putting on 4 coats of Tru-Oil over the last few days I took her out today to fling a few arrows. Boy is she sweet! Zips a 600gr hill cane arrow like it was made for her, she's quiet and pretty soft in the hand. After shooting about 30 arrows I noticed the bottom limb wasn't bending quite enough. She still had a few pounds she could loose and still be within the range...so off to the shop I went. A few scrapes on the bottom limb and 30 pulls on the tree, a few more scrapes and more tree work and once she looked good I put her on the scale and she is pulling 55#@28"(weight range 45# to 55#). I think I'll leave her be.
I sanded down the belly and feathered the edges of the Tru-Oil finish and added my first new coat to the belly of the lower limb. This is one of the reasons I like Tru-Oil for a finish. Repairs are so easy and you'll never know I had scraped off the old and added new.
I'll try to get some pics this afternoon to share with you guys. She has an interesting but visually effective backing and cool handle wrap.
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Be sure and get a close up of the back, I've been wanting to see what that was on there ever since you posted the first pics a couple pages back.
Don't tease me anymore Pat! :nono:
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Lookin Good Goose! I've thought about doing a leather wrap just like that one you got there, but wasn't sure how to make it stay put. If you wouldn't mind, maybe you could show me how you go about it with a little how to?
Nice job, somebody's gonna get a nice Osage selfbow. :thumbsup:
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Here ya go SEMO. I started out by attaching the floppy rest where I want it (On the side that you can't see on the picture). Then, I superglue the beginning of the leather vertically towards the middle of the handle (typically on the side opposite of the floppy rest). I'll throw down a few lines of contact cement vertically (3-4 per side of bow) to wrap over. I then wrap over the superglued section continuously pushing it together keeping it close and tight. When I get toward the bottom with 3-4 wraps left I'll loop a piece of fishing line and wrap over it. I finish by cutting the leather threading it into the fishing line and pulling through the previous 3-4 wraps (making sure to leave enough to pull through). After pulling through the excess I'll throw in some more superglue near the tuck and where I snip the extra bit. Work it together and tada. I really hope that made sense and if anyone else has other ways they do it feel free to chime in.
The bows getting close!
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great tutorial goose!
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Great bow Goose ! Pat, lookin forward to the new pics !
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Here's what I've got so far. As you can tell, she isn't stovepipe straight. I am going to use dry heat (probably a heat gun) to try to straighten it. My question is....do I try to straighten it at the handle? Or at the limbs? Or both? I'm thinking the handle, that way I don't mess up the snakey upper limb in the pick below.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04422.jpg)
Here is a shot from the lower limb that also has a nice curve in it.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04432.jpg)
And also a very distinct (almost black) growth ring where there are two clearly different colors of yeller wood. This concerns me. If you follow the black ring on up the limb it actually turns into a ring delamination. Luckily it won't end up in the bow, but still will be in the handle. Thoughts?
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04452.jpg)
Everyone's bows are looking great!!! I've been following along daily, but haven't posted anything yet. Keep up the good work from KS.
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Thanks for the tips Goose, I gotcha. Just like doing a serving except on a larger scale with bigger material. The explanation was real good.
Tyler- From what I see in the first pic I would personally try to pull the center of the bow in line with the tips so you don't loose the snakey part. As long as the tips line up you should be good, doesn't matter a whole lot how it wanders in between the two. As long as your 3 points line up......Bottom limb tip....Handle.....Top limb tip and those are the 3 points your concerned with. Some heat and steady pressure in the center of the bow while supporting each tip should bring it all in line. I've actually done this before I even had a heat gun by using steam. It takes longer, but I used what I had available to me at the time and it worked.
This is just MY opinion, others may have different solutions and I can't actually hold your bow blank and look at it myself, so consider other opinions before you just take my word for it. If I'm seeing what I think I am in your pics, it's the center portion that's out of alignment and not so much the tips, so if that's the case you should try to pull that center portion in line with the tips. Hope all that made sense?
Good Luck.
Oh and about the ring delam......I've had the entire center heart wood portion on some staves seperate the "core" completely from the outer 1/3 portion of a stave. I have no idea why or how to stop it, but it does happen. It's got something to do with the drying process and I've actually made a bow from that portion of the core that seperated itself from the outside 1/3 of the rest of the stave. That's the good part anyway, but in your case it's not a good thing. I guess if it comes completely apart you could always sand it down flat and glue the handle back on? That's probably about the only option I can see, and hopefully it doesn't get into your limbs.
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Kansan, You need to put some oil on fade and handle area and put you some blocks of scrap about six inches on both sides of that and bend it past where you want it to stay a little.
As far as the ring delam, soak it in plenty of CA glue and it should ne fine.
Stiks
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Thanks to PatB for sending me what I need to start on my bow. I started a bit thinning the boo tonight. Should be able to get a decent chunk of time on it this weekend :)
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Thanks guys....hopefully Sunday I can get back on it....after shed hunting of course! After reading over on the POWWOW about everyone's luck i'm fired up.
Stiks - peanut oil? veggie oil? 10W-30? (just kidding)
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i think its time i posted up. i have had some help in getting an osage stave for the swap. thankyou so much stiks-n-strings. i went to work on it immediately.i have to say i really wasn't prepaired for the fight i was fixin to get. stiks and i talked on the phone some , he told me that he thought i could get 2 out of this stave so i attempted to split it so i could get 2 staves, wrong.i did not split they way i would have wanted for sure. i ended up with one good stave and a 6' long wedge :mad: i went to debark and prep the stave for chasing a ring got through the sap wood and what do we have? on one end of the stave i had some thin rings that wrapped over the back from right to left, by the time i got to the other end of the stave the thin rings wrapped from left to right.what a fight it took me almost a week to get to a good ring. i did my bow layout, pyramid design 64" long. got the bow roughed out and started to floor tiller. i had another fight with a belly ring thatjust didnt want to bend at all. i was also keeping in mind to get to a certain limb thickness for heating in some reflex. wrong! getting past that particular ring to get to the right thickness for bending brought me way past floor tiller and way under weight for the length i was shootin for :banghead: i talked to pat on the phone yesterday about my issues with this stave, he gave his recomendations, thanx again pat, your wisdom and guidance is more than welcome with me. well i proceeded to follow the new plan of attack and piked the stave in my attempt to gain weight. some pics to follow shortly of where im at now. ruddy
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ok here is where im at. i piked the bow to 61" t-t and went to the long string, here are some pics of the stave (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00050.jpg)
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(http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00055.jpg) (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00057.jpg) (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00058.jpg)
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I gather from your description Ruddy that you attempted to split the stave before removing the bark and sapwood? I don't do that anymore just for the reason you described.
I remove all bark and sapwood then chase the stave down to the first ring so I can get a real good look at what I will need for at least 1 good bow, then if there's enough left over I will try for a second one, if not then I'm satisfied just getting the 1 good bow out of it.
Then before I split, I lay out the dimensions I'll need for my targeted bow and run a string from end to end. Draw a line down the center leaving plenty of wood to get my good bow out of, then leave at least and extra 1/8" and the next step is to score a line the entire length of the stave. Either using a skill saw or a dremel with a wood blade attachment. I score as deep as I can then start splitting from the middle out to the ends. Most generally the split will follow the score, but there are never any guarantees.
Best choice would be a large ban saw and cut it the entire length and leave nothing to chance.
I know this doesn't help your situation much at this point, but food for thought the next time.
I hope you get it to come around.
Good Luck man.
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im now back with the long string at this new length. im going to try to tiller this bow carefully . more pics soon. ruddy
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I'm glad to see you are "working around" that one, Ruddy. It's a pretty piece of wood IMO. Here's wishing you the best of luck with the new change of direction.
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I agree with Semo, you have to get the bark and sapwoof off first just to see what you are working with...unless it is obviously big enough for 2 staves. If that is the case I can usually get 3 staves with the removal of a belly split.
Ruddy, she is coming along nicely. You are doing exceptional work especially since this os basically only your second bow from scratch. Well done!!!
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Got home from work yesterday and found a early birthday surprise waiting for me- a long white tube- from Greg!!!
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/GregTradebow2011001.jpg)
The pictures don't do this bow justice- Greg you are one skilled craftsman- this bow is flawless and to top it off it shoots as good as it looks- thanks Bud- I'll treasure it.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/GregTradebow2011004.jpg)
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That is sweet, kind of make a grown man cry if you know what I mean. Congrats!!
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Beautiful bow, Greg and you are a lucky man, Trux. How about a good full draw pic with you pulling the bow.
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Trux, you got my bow. He was supposed to send that one to me. I guess you can keep that one. haha Cool bow Greg. Oh and happy birthday Trux
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That is great. I maked you as received trux. I told ya greg that he was going to love it. ;)
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i made a short video of my swap bow on the long string. (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/th_M4H00062.jpg) (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/?action=view¤t=M4H00062.mp4)
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Trux you are a lucky man- happy birthday!
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Trux,
I'm glad you like it. I wish I could have kept the bow and shipped some of this snow instead. Even though I cant shoot right handed anymore I would have gladly traded this snow for it.
Now I'm off to the shop to start preparing sinew for the next project.
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happy b-day trux, i hope you get to make meat with your new bow. greg you are very talented nice bow you built. ruddy
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Greg, That is one beautiful bow.
Trux, Go buy a lottery ticket in case your luck is still running good.
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Trux you are a lucky man. Man that is one nice looking bow. If she shoots anything like it looks you have a winner.
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Trux, that's an awesome looking bow you got. And Greg you sure know how to build nice bows.
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Andy
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OMG YOU MAILED MY BOW TO TRUX....lucky som...
broke , lookin good on the progress , just remember take your time. still 4 months left.
pat : can you doo some vid or pics of how to split off the belly? the piece dvs sent is huge and im sure i could take a belly split and maybe even cut it after that and get 3 , maybe...interested in that belly split though...
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Originally posted by Pat B:
How about a good full draw pic with you pulling the bow.
Here you go Pat- this baby is 52#@28". Greg I don't think the snow would have survived the trip- good choice sending the bow instead-lol
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/GregTradebow2011013.jpg)
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Good lookin' bow, Trux. You did him proud, Greg!
Stan
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That's a sweet bow. Congrats to both of you!!!
I just posted full draw pics on my trade bow thread. Check it oput.
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Lucky man Trux!
That's a sweet looking bow Greg. Nice work!
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Good for you Trux and awesome job Greg!!
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That's a awsum bow. Congrats to both of you!
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Ruddy, one is better than none LOL. Looks great your recipient will be well pleased.
Nice bow Trux, Greg did a great job on it.
looks like everybody has been busy. I've been down with an abcessed tooth :( but I'll be back to it in a week or so.
Stiks
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Congrats to Greg on the fine bow and Trux for being luckey , to have the postman stop at his house.
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That's one fine looking bow there Trux, you did indeed recieve an awesome birthday present. I don't think I've ever got anything that nice for my birthday. I agree with Walt......go buy a lottery ticket!
Great job Greg, you are a true craftsman!
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I got to do a little more work today. I took everyone's advice and used oil and heat to try and the string to bisect the handle. I bought a cheap heat gun at a home improvement store.
Here is the before.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04432.jpg)
In the jig. I went 1/2" past perfect in case it sprung back a little. Worked like a champ!
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04472.jpg)
I also put 2" of reflex in it while I was at it.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_04462.jpg)
And the almost finished product. Much better than the first picture.
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looking good Tyler. :thumbsup: Well on your way.
Stiks
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Balding,
I need to see a top view of it on the press, if you got one or can stage one. I will be trying that soon and am thinking your gig is simple. I can make one like that no problem here.
Looks good by the way.
Kelly
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ok ive been workin on my swap bow all weekend. i went to the short string. ive been having trouble with the left limb the entire time, trying to get an even brace hieght. im at 4 1/2" now here are some pics (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00077.jpg)i have been trying to exercise the limbs out to 15" draw (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00079.jpg)
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i'll also say ive been trying to not ask for to much help , i know everyone is busy with their swap bows. what do y'all see. ruddy
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You have a hinge at the black circle. Remove wood along the red lines. When tillering a bow I always get the mid limbs bending first, then the ends near the tips and during the last stage the fades.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/Broketooth.jpg)
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Ruddy,
You should also move the clip on your pulley string. You want to approximate where the pressure of your draw fingers will be on the string.
Right now you look to be pretty much centered, which wouldn't be the case were you actually pulling the bow by hand.
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thanx for the help fellas. i saw the hinges on both sides, ive been avoiding those like crazy, ive been fighting this stave from the beginning.
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All I need to do now is get something to ship it in and there will be a new bow for someone to fiddle with. Finished out today putting silencers on and getting them where they quieted the bow down considerably. Here are the last three shots @ 20 yards with the bow before destringing for shipping. After 200+ shots I don't know if I could get rid of it. I know I'm excited for the recipient to get a bow that I would love to shoot this fall!
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/bcb0ff79.jpg)
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what a pretty bow goose! i know yor recipient will love it. there aint nothin like an osage selfbow. ruddy
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Lookin great everyone, guess i need to start stalking the mailman. I've been getting some work done on mine. kind of changed course, but if it works out it will be a nice bow.
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well, fine lookin bows from all ya'll !!
mine was shipped out today, ******* should get it by thursday hope he likes it , and the extra thingy in there !!
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Awesome bow Goose.
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Goose that is a great looking bow let me know when you ship it. I know ******* is going to love it.
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Well, my moose trip this weekend fell through (undependable partners canceling at the last minute.... :banghead: ) so I tackled two bow projects.
I finished up my first attempt trade bow (the one that came out too light and started to hinge). It ended up tillering out quite well but light. Finished up at 25# @ 26" which will be a good one for my local shop to loan to kiddos that come in. I even made it ambidextrous since it will be a loaner. :)
I also got my 2nd attempt trade bow ready for the short string and am working on a new style of tip overlays. Heading out now for our weekly 3D league with my daughter so things will be on hold. I'll try to get some pics up.
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Very Nice Bows. I hope to be in this bow swap next year, but someone will be disappointed. I am new at building bows and cannot compare to the craftsmanship seen on here. Keep up the good work!
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I've got my bow ready to ship in a 4" thin walled PVE pipe. She's heading east tomorrow and should arrive on Thursday.
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nice going everyone.
I took out my bow from the hotbox and looked at it again for a long time. It's still drying...still drying.
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nice looking stick there Goose
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Awsum job Goose!
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here is where im at in my swap bow build. im at 4 3/4" brace and im drawing to 17 " still having some trouble with a slight hinge on the right i think im close to an even tiller here are some pics (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00086.jpg) (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00087.jpg)
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Thanks for the kudos on the bow guys. Y'all should be looking on your doorstep for a package :)
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Looking Good Ruddy! A little stiff on the outer 1/3rds. I wouldn't pull it past 17" until you get the problems corrected. Could create alot of unwanted set.
Stiks
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I know of 3 bowyers who have shiped and bows are enroute. On sent two bows, one for the not only for the name he drew but a shorter bow for the spouse as well. So 4 bows are enroute. We should see some more finished bows up here very very soon.
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Can't wait to start seeing finished bows in the hands of the new owners.
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Pat that sure was a killer bow you made....the full draw pic was about as good as it can get. Awesome.
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Thanks Tex. Hopefully we will have a full draw pic of her with her new owner in the next day or two.
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my recipients bow on the caul (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00092.jpg) (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00091.jpg)
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sorry for the reverse order in the pics, amature at work. im going to give it a few days to rehydrate. ruddy
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I'm on the home stretch with my trade bow. Had to shorten it a little, took 2" from top limb and 2-1/2" from the bottom limb to hit my weight, also had to rebend the recurves on both limbs. Need to add a few more coats of Tru Oil, a handle wrap, and make a new string with silencers for it and she is done. Will post a few pics when completed....Dan
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Looks good to me, Ruddy. Is the right limb kinda thin right out of the fade? Or is it just the pic?
Stan
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I should have some pics up tomarrow of the bow I built for the trade. Just have to do a few more little things and she's done.
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I like your new caul, Ruddy. Did you toast the belly well?
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pat i heated the bow 2 times yesterday, i think the belly got toasted , ill have some pics later. do i use acetone to clean the olive oil off? if so i gotta make a run to the hardware store to get some. ruddy
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Acetone or denatured alcohol, Ruddy. If you are not going to add a backing you shouldn't have to remove the oil, just let it sink in and seal over it.
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
This is where all bowyers can post pics of the bows getting built and updates on progress as the next few months lingers on :laughing: Is it July yet?
Have fun guys and gal!
Nope still not July but man it is March already, can you believe it. wow.
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It'll sneak up on Kelly, It always does.
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Nice job on the bows Ruddy and Goose! Y'all are making me look bad, I got one I'm finishing up for a guy that I promised a bow to. Then I'm going to start my trade bow.
I've seen some fantastic bows produced so far and this has got to be one of the largest collective efforts of Talent that I have ever witnessed.
Some very fine craftsmen frequent these pages!
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Ditto Semo!
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My stave is dry! I'll rough it out probably tonight and tomorrow. I am almost finished with my trade for PA. Hopefully I can finish both bows before OJAM so I can shoot them both.
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thanks semo, i can tell ya im feelin the pressure. i know there is time , but there is a quality standard to hold up to. i think between pat brennen, osagetree, and john scifres, these folks have set the benchmark. i hope i meet the standard. ruddy
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Dang DVS what were all those bows you built over the winter for? You are a bow building machine!
If you ever have any rejects that don't quite live up to your standards, just send them my way. I'll make a nice place on my wall for them. :saywhat:
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It might be sad that I'm more excited to see pictures of a bow I made in use by someone else than to get one in the mail?
DVS: If you need someone to help "break in" a bow at OJAM I'll for sure offer my services :readit:
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Originally posted by Goose Gossett:
It might be sad that I'm more excited to see pictures of a bow I made in use by someone else than to get one in the mail?
DVS: If you need someone to help "break in" a bow at OJAM I'll for sure offer my services :readit:
Goose that right there is the bow swap spirit my friend. It is nice getting a bow in the mail but seems a little less than expected when you get on the swap thread and you get a bigger smile than when you got your bow.
Don't get me wrong I love getting new bows but with the swap it's just the icing on the cake.
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Holy Mess! Went out & bought a vacuum today just because of this. Too much dust & too many shavings to get by borrowing one anymore. Flattening bamboo slats w/ hand tools is a pain. Literally...3/4" splinter into the skin on top of my fingernail. Anyhow...may send this BBB for the swap if it turns out. May back some osage or ipe with bamboo if it doesn't. Finishing up a boo-backed maple for my brother at the moment.
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200323_10150409103490531_651545530_17502289_3091562_n.jpg)
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Try a nice sharp block plane, sharp is the key. I've done many that way in the past. No splinters from those nice soft curls.
Bamboo quickly dulls a blade though.
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I use a little 4 inch craftsman jointer for my boo. Saves alot of time and not to many splinters.
A BBB sounds pretty cool hope it turns out and ends up here on my doorstep. :bigsmyl:
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Wow, sure have missed allot from being away for a little while. Not sure where to start except to say those are some fine looking bows being built. Great spirit of "best efforts" by everyone. :clapper: I am back on the home front and will be getting back on my trade bow now that the sinew has had a good amount of dry time. It took a slight backset and the rooled tips still look fairly close on line up so now it's skins and tips and strat dailing in the tiller. :pray:
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A couple of distant shots of my swap bow (don't want to give too much away yet... :) )
Gluing up the zebra wood handle overlay tonight -
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Here you can see the 1 3/4" reflex I glued in -
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Looks nice to me, well do.
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Goose,I'll definitly have the pa bow trade bow there for you to shoot. Maybe even the tg bow, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that one. Then again... you never know. Alot can happen in two weeks.
Semo- Most bows I just give away or trade off. They make good donations for auctions to. I'll keep you in mind though. ;-)
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Picked up some of that drain pipe stuff today to ship the bow in--I finished up my bow today as well. I'm going to shoot it in today and tomorrow some more, and hope to ship it out on Monday, Tuesday at the latest.
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Well, back to the drawing board for try #3.... :(
My tips both had a spontaneous disassembly today and broke off about 3" on each end. I understand why it happened, but it would be hard to explain. I saved the overlays and piked the bow then re-mounted the tips. It is now down to 64".
Started tillering basically from scratch and ran in to some issues (probably because I was so torqued off from the tips breaking...). Needless to say, the bow came out light after all this and there is no way it will make weight. Right now it is pretty well tillered to 35# @ 26". I guess I'll have another bow to donate to the shop for the kids programs.
Anyway, I think I am officially giving up on the hickory backed cherry combo for now. The cherry I am working with is really light and feels dry. It also isn't as hard as I would like. I still have some great hickory backing strips so I need to come up with another belly wood. Maybe Jatoba....(I managed a 70# bow from that combo last year...).
Any ideas/suggestions?
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John just let me know when it ships
AKmud I think you just like making kid bows.
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Well I finally got my picture issues figured out.
here's a few of my swap bow.
One on left is my swap bow, One on right is a yew bow I got going.
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradebow3-1.jpg)
Roughed stave
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradebow2.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/tradebow-1.jpg)
A few of her on the caul. This baby needed alot of heatin to give her some direction
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/Bows%20and%20arras/03052011067.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/03052011070-1.jpg)
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I'll get some more pics now that I got my issues fixed LOL
Stiks
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Looks like a fun stave, Kris.
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You know it is Pat. I started out bow making with the nasty ones and those are still the ones I love.
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kris,
the sticks under it is that to keep the knots from twisting the limb by raising it, or is to just give you little more height to bend with?
thanks,
Kelly
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Just some off the floor shave pile wedges Kelly to get a little more bend.
I need to build me another caul or two with a little more reflex plus I got some green wood that needs to go on a caul to season or it will be a mess. A pretty nasty piece of HHB I cut early this week and need to split.
Stiks
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On a completely unrelated topic, AKmud, I have that same welding helmet. Nice. And yeah, kelly, I'll let you know when I ship it.
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Developed a pretty bad hinge almost instantly about 8" from the top limb tip. I put a patch in it.
I was planning on flipping the tips with heat but the more I ponder the dilemma I think I am gonna thin both tips and glue on some underlays and glue in some flip. Might even go with some brush nocks. Don't really know at this point. I may just start on another stave and set this one to the side. :dunno:
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Kris, I did underlays on a hickory recurve I made. I had originally built the bow over 10 years ago and got a hinge just below the curves so I set it in the "corner of shame". Last year a friend as if I'd make his girlfriend a bow so I brought this hickory recurve out, added black walnut underlays and made a sweet shooting bow for Hannah.
Setting it aside and starting on another is a good idea to clear your mind about the screw up but you shouldn't have to take 10 years to do it like I did! d;^)
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Pat I remember you posting that bow. Those underlays looked great.
Sorry to hear about the hinge Kris.
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I patched it and chased a ring on another stave and worked on my yew bow.
I would like to save it and I think it is fixable I just need to figure out the direction she wants to go. She's got alot of character and really want to be a bow.
Off to the drawing board.
stiks
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I haven't posted much about my swap bow. I'm still working on a couple that I need to finish for some folks. I have a osage self bow started, the material for a BBO bow and some nice edge grained hickory/pecan boards. My plan is to make all three and see which you all think I should use as the swap bow. My biggest problem is the cold. I don't have heat in the garage. I'm hoping to get alot done this month if it would only warm up to about 50 degrees and stay there. I will put up pics of the pecan I have wenge overlays on to get some flip in the tips. I want to make one like it for a possible swap bow.
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I havent posted my progress either--but that doesnt mean im not working feverishly! I figure that I want to try something I havent done before, so.... I located some ipe (finally) that I just got glued up with a hickory backer AND with all these pretty self bows on here I got the bug to try that too- so I knocked down a shaggy hickory and found out the hard way what spiral grain in all about! I have 3 bows roughed out and strapped down and a pile more staves in process! My garage is a complete disaster!
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I got wrapped in a yew bow that's been in the works for a while but I'm working on my swap bow to probably gonna have some under lays since I got a good hinge going near a tip so it'll have to have some overlays to fix that issue but I think it add to the over all beauty of the bow.
Stiks
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I thought mine would be done by now, but I ran into a problem. The wood on the inside of the limbs is very dark from heat treating, so I used a gold paint pen to write all the info on the limb. When I try to put a coat of tru oil over the writting, it smears. Any suggestions as to what I can use over the paint pen that won't smear would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan
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Same with me. I'm trying my hand at an osage self bow while the rest of my osage staves are drying. Taking my time and trying to learn as I go. Luckily there are lots of great posts on TG that I am able to use as references. So... Keep'em comin', guys!
Someone mentioned on here a while back about what it sounds and feels like to finally chase a ring. Man! Were they right! When I worked up the nerve to flip the DK over and exert a little elbo grease it was great!
Enjoying reading and seeing all these posts, too.
Stan
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Dan: superglue should seal it up. However, consider using India ink. You shouldn't have a compatibility problem with TruOil or spray-application finishes with it.
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I use India ink also. I think you can get it in white too.
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I resumed work on my swap bow. Gonna deo horn under lays to stiffen up the weak spoy in the tip and do the same on both tips. Should look real nice and fix the problem all at the same time.
Stiks
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture157.jpg)
The wenge overlays in glue up...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture159.jpg)
...and the antler overlays after some initial shaping.
This wenge seems kinda brittle. The next one I try will be with osage overlays. I hope this one holds up.
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Thanks 4est & Pat, I'll find some India ink and give it a try......Dan
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I switched gears on my trade bow. I worked down a stave to ring that has some real nice natural reflex/deflex in one limb. real nice stave with one real nice knot hole just above the fade area.
Got it floor tillered today and will heat it tomorrow. Hope I can get a nice R/D tiller on it. The other one I was working on is not lost but in a corner for later still giving it some thought.
Stiks
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Heated a limb on my trade bow today, and I'll do the other tonight hopefully.
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Trade bow getting close:
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011006.jpg) (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011007.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011003.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/TradeBow2011010.jpg)
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now that is a beauty...nicely done :thumbsup:
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Truxs Great Job
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VERY VERY nice work....should I PM my address or just continue drooling on my keyboard.
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I am tracking 4 bows have been shipped and not recieved yet, and 4 bows recieved. Others completed and not shipped so we should be seening pics of bows with owners soon.
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That's a beauty Trux, really clean. :thumbsup:
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She's a reak looker Trux.
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Sweet looking bow Trux.....Dan
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Wow Trux, awesome work.
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SAWEEEET ! Nice job, Trux.
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Andy
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Nice trux! Did you draw me? :bigsmyl:
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sweet looking bow!
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very nice trux. Looks great.
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Nice trux! Did you draw me? :bigsmyl:
Just finished the drawing. Here you go Stiks-
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/TG%202011/untitled.jpg)
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Well one of the times you posted about this bow you used 3 asterisks. I'm the only one in the trade with a 3 letter screen name...BUT....You could have been describing the actual name...There's a lot of 3 letter names OR...you could have just put 3 asterisks randomly and it didn't mean anything :pray:
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been away for a minute. got a house and im moving now. will post pics of my new shop area!
keep it goin guys!
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Trux man, you are turning out to be a true craftsman! I don't know how many bows that makes for you so far, but I think you've got it figured out pretty dang good.
Great Job, very nice looking stick! :thumbsup:
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NICE WORK TRUX!
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That's a very nice bow Trux!
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NTD- *** = DVS
sorry bud, better luck next time. :knothead:
Did some more on my trade bow.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0052-1.jpg)
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0057.jpg)
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0056.jpg)
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Sure DVS sure.... :)
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Trux You are an artist in more than one fashion :biglaugh:
Stiks
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Well, Trux, if it's cruising night, you're the guy who came in the '57 Chevy! Think I'll get in my Geo Metro and go home :)
Just awesome talent going on here. Aside from the eye candy lam bows, some of the selfbows are unbelievable to me... Don't know how you guys make bows out of some of those pieces of wood...
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Where are the pics of the bows. I know some you have recieved your bows and are not sharing. 8 bows shipped 5 recieved and 3 in the mail. Any day, 3 of you will have packages. OH this is almost better than Christmas.
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I'm getting anxious waiting on Santa Claus. :readit: :saywhat:
Looking good DVS, I'll be doing some of that very soon. :knothead:
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Here's a coulple of pics of my progress so far.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3397.jpg) (http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3395_edited-1.jpg)
Sorry for the picture quality, will try to get better ones when I'm finished. Need to do the handle wrap and string silencers yet....Dan
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awww come on is that all the pics you have dan?
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Hope to finish her tomorrow, will have more then....Dan
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Look what came to my door this A.M. That beauty that Trux built!!!!
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0172.jpg)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0173.jpg)
Thank you David,
I love the bow.
-Ted.
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Awesome Bow Ted :)
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I like the looks of that toasted belly Dan. Is that elm?
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Glad you like it Ted-I have some of those two feather arrows too-hope it serves you well.
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I promise you it will get put to good use Trux.You beat the crap out of your arrows when you have to shoot in your garage all winter. Really looking forward to spring up here,been along time since we've seen grass.
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Dang Ted you are one lucky Dog! Congrats man!
Scott- That wood sure is pretty, can't wait to see it come along.
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Yup, I'm one lucky dog Semo, was on here last night and seen the bow Trux made. This morning the mail lady pulls in the driveway and pulls this long tube out her car. I couldn't believe it when I seen it was from David! I need to go back to the garage and shoot some more.
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lookin forward to seein that one scott
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Landis, What is on the back of that bow? looks awesome,
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NTD, It is hackberry, a close relative of elm.
Sticks, It's the natural back under the bark, just highlighted it with green and brown leather dye, then scraped the high spots lightly and added 7 or 8 coats of tru oil....Dan
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Finished up today, except for string silencers, thought I had a few strips of fox left, but can't find them. Will have to make a trip to the bow shop to get more. Will be a week or so till I get silencers on and ship.
Here are some pics.....Dan
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3433.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3402_edited-1.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3399.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3429_edited-1.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3427.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g433/DanLandis/100_3403.jpg)
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beautiful bow, dan. love the full draw profile
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Great work Dan, someone will be happy to get that bow!
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Very nice Dan. I like everything about it. The back is way cool!
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sweet bow dan!
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very nice looking
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I got my trade bow finished up yesterday; actually still have to build a good string and silencer for it. But she's ready to go and shoots pretty good.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k282/dlbowers/20110312180503.jpg)
Sorry no full draw pic, its just me home tonight.
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Looks good Dave, Nice camo Job.
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Thanks I was trying something new
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Some nice bows on here great work gents.
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Thanks everyone for all the good comments. It was a real learining experience for me, enjoyed it a lot....Dan
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Dang..... two beautiful bows in a row laid out on a pile of firewood :scared:
You guys must not believe in bad Ju-Ju like I do.
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HAHA...I didn't even notice that :knothead:
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Well gentel men those are great looking bow. I know ****** and ******* are going to love them. Just let me know when the are shipped.
I will mark you as complete but not shipped.
Thanks,
Kelly
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Whow! Nice bows Dan and Dave! Really putt'n on the pressure aren't ya!
Vanillabear, I like the looks of that bow. So you glued in that profile?
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Ok, so I'm working on a bow that I might do for the trade bow if it works out. I know I should add pics of my progress but I want to run something by you all first. I was reading that the reason hickory takes a set more easily could be that it is so strong in tension that it overpowers it's own belly. So I decided to trap the back to see if that helps. I also want to use a rawhide backing because it is a board and although it as nice straight grain it looks like it has some sap wood with the heart wood. Shouldn't I back the whole back. I'm thinking about using the bear rawhide that I have and it is very thin, almost as thin as grocery sack paper.
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Mr.Landis, That is a beauty of a bow.
I haven't quite started my own first bow yet but I have gotten some hands on training from a fellow TG'er. And with this new to me knowledge I will be joining in on next years bow trade. I just hope to impress whoever I get as much as I am impressed with all of the bows on here. I doubt it could happen but I will be giving it my best. I will probly build up my own pile of firewood before then so it could possibly be my first "shooter" on here next year, lol.
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Ok I just updated my spreadsheet. total 7 bows received, 1 shipped and 2 waiting to be shipped those who have received and not posted PICs should share the joy with the rest of us.
Happy building,
Kelly
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Hickory backed ipe - bloodwood power lam and a zebra handle. Glued in 3 1/2" of reflex. Last nite things were starting to come together....
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/DSCF5194.jpg)
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/DSCF5202.jpg)
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and rite away this morning things fell apart - more like blew apart!!!!!!
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(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/DSCF5205.jpg)
I excercised her and took her up to brace this morning. man that was loud! oh well back to the drawing board!
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Did the hickory back fail? Too bad it broke! hope your next is more successful. Hickory backed ipe makes a very good combo. You might try going a bit more narrow so the ipe isn't so thin. You can go as narrow as 3/4" at the widest and still get weight but 1" to 1 1/8" should be good.
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Im not sure what failed- the last bow I "made" HBH failed due to the backing strip- I knew it was questionable but I tried to make it work anyway.
Here is another pic of the backing, maybe somebody with more experience can figure it out.
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/DSCF5204.jpg)
The bow was 1 3/16 wide til 12" from the tips and then tapered to 1/2". I started with 3/8" ipe and 1/8" backing and really thought I had it! I stopped last nite - I was tired and didnt want to screw anything up- HA! live and learn I guess
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If you ain't breakin you ain't makin'
Better luck next time.
Stiks
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Kelly, I'll let you know when I ship mine out.
Bona & Mike, thanks for the good comments, and Mike if you follow all the good advice you get from these guys and gals, you'll be building shooters in no time.
Eagleone, hate to see that happen to you. I'm sure you'll nail it the next time.....Dan
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I finally got to the glue up point...
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/101_2532.jpg)
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Looks good NTD. thanks for the support guys - managed to get another HBI glued up this afternoon- hopefully with better results
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Yep it's a BBO :-)
BTW sorry bout the crappy pic, didn't realize it was fuzzy until I posted it.
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Eagleone, your dimensions are good. After looking at the pics again I see the ipe is thicker than I thought. I'd say you had a backing failure. Is this the same wood as the last one? How about your new one? I wouldn't use it if it was. You don't see hickory break straight across grain unless it is diseased.
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Pat- I hope not- but Im not sure. I found 2 good boards at menards and cut them up into backing strips- i know they got mixed around since then. I guess we'll find out soon enough tho!
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Well, I had a few hours free tonight so I got my trade bow from stave to the long string. I've got to get it on the caul before I do much more to it, but so far, so good. The pictures make it look like I did a terrible job of following my centerline/grain, but that's not quite the case. It's got some dips and turns near the end of the closest limb that play tricks on the eyes. I've opted for a uniform thickness pyramid bow. I've always been drawn to that profile and love how easily and cleanly they come together with a few simply hand tools. Thanks for looking! More to come...
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4757.jpg)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4758.jpg)
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Nate,
I really like that side profile, I'm hoping that it's a lefty.
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Originally posted by GREG IN MALAD:
Nate,
I really like that side profile, I'm hoping that it's a lefty.
I'll never tell :nono: :)
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Wow getting some great looking bows.
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Come on Nate, I can keep a secret. Type the answer quiet so nobody else can hear.
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4est i'm sure your bow will be a very awesome shooter when done. Hopefully it's coming to Waterford when it is done too!!
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Fish,
Maybe we could draw straws for it, I like snakey osage as well. Just remember to make it a lefty.
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The hickory bow I was working on with the wenge, glue reflex came out to low. Starting over again.
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Man what a surprise I got thru FedEx today. Ive been following all these builds and low and behold the" Mourning Cloak" has arrived at my house. It's a beauty and has a new proud owner. Many thanks for your skills and being able to watch it on Tradgang. I looked at this pretty riser on tradgang post so many times, now I got the real mcoy to look at and hold in my hand. Thank you John for a fine (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/genegillis5/SDC10321-1.jpg)bow and case.
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Just wanted to put up a couple of pictures of my bow for the swap. I hope the dimensions don't give it away.
It's a BBO with a Red Elm core and Walnut tip overlays. The Osage is unstained, it's just really dark with a redish tint.
The bow is 60" 40lbs@24"
Now all I have to do is make a new string and the rest and a handle.
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/MDS65/BBO002.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/MDS65/BBO001.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/MDS65/BBO007.jpg)
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/MDS65/BBO011.jpg)
Thanks,
Mark
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Nice looking bows! I had a bad day in the shop. blew up a static tip yew and cut my index finger to the tendon with a draw knife.
went back to shop after getting sewed up and laid up another yew and done a little work on my swap bow.
Momma said there would be days like that :knothead:
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Gene,
Hope we get some picks of you shooting it. Sticks now that you have donated blood to the bow gods, all should be well in your shop.
Mark,
That is looking like a fine bow
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Oh and that brings us to two bow waiting to be shipped. 8 bows recieved.
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Really sorry to hear that Stiks!
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Mark,
You have the right poundage but that draw length is way too short for me. It's a fine bow and i'm sure ??????? is going to enjoy it.
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There is some really nice stuff being done here for the swap. It's taking me alttle time to get caught up. I finally got a shooting bow done and now I have to get one done for this swapp.
I don't have the best bowyer skills yet but what dose everyone think of art work on a bow?
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Been away for a bit and looks like I've missed allot of fun. So many nice bows I don't know where to start complimenting. You guys are really putting togethet some very nice bows.
I am really impressed with the variations that I see. I know that I would be pleased with any of one of them.
My trade bow has been curing out that sinew for about long enough. Time to start getting smoe bending going on that Juniper!
Vanilla, Love the shape!
Dan, The back and the full draw look incredible.
Mark, That looks like pure grace and beauty with a bit of sting to her bite. Nice profile
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
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Keenan, thanks for the compliment.....Dan
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(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0072-1.jpg)
Went into the shop tonight and watched h8noncubs work on his trade bow again. It coming on nice. Then we got a bit sidetracked with a few of these.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0073-1.jpg)
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0074-1.jpg)
We ended up cutting down a hackberry tree in a neighbors yard and split it up and got it sealed. We still have one more log, but it is only 64in. long not as nice as the 73in. thats these are.
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I decided to pike the bow that came out low. I heat treated the belly last night and took out some of the set that had already started. One limb is good the other needs a little more. This is not for the trade but I might do one like it for the trade.
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Nice job to everybody, looks like things are really starting to get revved up with the bow swap. Lots of builds, lots of breakage both with bows and broken hearts, but lots of work getting done. I apologize for my slow start, but I have to get my prior commitments out of the way first. Then my own bow swap bow thread will begin.
It won't be long now. :thumbsup:
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I think there is alot of that Semo. That's the reason for the July deadline. More time to build = more bows swapped. :bigsmyl:
Stiks
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So any other slackers here look at these bows being finished, sent, and received and have mixed feelings?
You keep hoping that you come home to one of these beauties one afternoon out of the blue. But then dread the guilt of knowing that your recipient is still a long way away from that feeling?
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A lot of very nice bows here on tradgang. I haven't started my swap bow yet, due to a lot of work at the job :-( , but as soon as I get the lams from Kenny I will start.
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I just got a new set of lams from Kenny - excellent quality as always. This will be my second attempt at my swap bow since I miscalculated my stack thickness on the first one and it came out a bit too light. No big deal, it ended up being a birthday present for my Dad. Now to find some time to get-r-done....
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Some very nice work is being done here guys! I'm still practicing. I made my first bow last winter and have completed my second (both red oak board bows) and have been practicing on my first R/D. It's coming out pretty light but my step son should benefit from that. I'm waiting on some supplies from 3Rivers that include some glue for the next R/D laminate and should be ready for the trade bow after that.
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I've built 3 bows and come up short on poundage on all 3. The kids around here are loving it though. Everyone of them come out around 35 t0 38 lbs. I told somebody today I was gonna glue 2 of the Hickory boards together. Mabye if I double the wood Icould double the poundage. Started again on another.
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Gene: Hang in there, you'll get it. But if you double the thickness, you'll actually increase the draw weight of the bow 8-fold! If you combine that with a lamination, that number will be even higher! In general, when you double the width of a bow you double its draw weight (200%). If you double the thickness, you'll increase the draw weight 800%. So, a 1/32" or 1/16" can make a huge difference! :)
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Well all I have to say is that some great bows have been sent by the grey breads and novice a like so far. The attitude and moral is going strong from what I can see. I am excited to see the next bow that gets done. Heck next year I may have to rig this so I get 80 plus bows. :bigsmyl:
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I though about that last year Kelly, LOL. You wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
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Man I cannot wait for bowling tournaments to get done so I can add my visual .02 cents to this thread. I don't INTEND to procrastinate...sigh...it just happens I guess.
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I'm planning on painting the back of the bow with natural pigments if I end up making a white wood bow for the swap. I was experimenting/practicing last night with some options. Here is some pics of a sinewed limb I was just messing around with, I didn't think it looked too bad for goofing off!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture172.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture175.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture174.jpg)
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Looks good b.glass! What color is that on the right in the bottom picture?
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The yellow is osage dust in hide glue and the green is just grass rubbed on the sinew. They kinda blend.
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The purplish color is a cactus beelte crushed and mixed in hide glue. It is more of a blood red on white wood and mixed in water only.
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Well they sure do look nice! Good work and intuitive thinking for sure!
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Thank you, I'v been doing alot of research and SilentBear has given advice.
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Sweet Bona, I been doing some reading up on natural dyes.
Looks cool.
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Very cool Bona. The natural dyes will make your bow shine.
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B that is awesome.
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Very cool. I'll have to try the natural dyes sometime.
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I was watching an episode of PBS's "Craft in America" just a couple nights ago. There's a traditional/ primitive textiles professor in California that talked about those beetles. Prior to "discovery" of the "new world" there wasn't a good source for that vibrant purple & red they produce. The "discoverers" were amazed at the colors in the native people's clothing. They were used to dye the British redcoats & are still used today in lipstick & make-up even.
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just stopping in while my internets are on...stupid 3g crap...
anyways , im all moved into the new house. i have a decent sized garage now that will definitely house a workshop/tinkering place. ill get some pics up later , and some pics of the bows i recieved in the swap. i havent brought my osage here yet cause i dont have a lock on the garage...
everyone is lookin awesome...cant wait to make a mess here...
-hov
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Hova,
Did you ever post any pics of the bows your receved?
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no...i have to upload a couple hundred photos tomorrow for work , so ill snap a couple of em. i cant get full draw just yet...wife doesnt want to be near any homemade bow... i cant say i really blame her...too bad though , as im taking a bear my father gave me (wheelie) , and im going to whip up some hickory limbs for it. long and smooth (maybe 40# @ 30")
how you doin kel , i need some pics...
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Doing good Hova, Glad to hear you found a place of your own. I know how it is, I lived with my inlaws for a few months when I first got married waiting to close on a house. The bank fell through and I went active duty and have not looked back sinces.
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Well....I got the BBO tillered out...I'm not really happy with it...I'm going cross eyed looking at FD pics. And it's 5lbs under the weight he asked for.
I think this one won't be going to my recipient...good news is there was someone else I wanted to gift a bow too ;)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/101_2607.jpg)
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NTD, that's a perty bow. You do good work!
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Thanks guys but that upper limb just looks off to me. It does shoot really nice though.
I guess my TG recipient is probably going to get a BBI now :)
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Yes, it's a little stiff I guess and I suppose you don't want to lower the poundage anymore. It still looks nice!
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looks good NTD
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NTD - looks good to me. Whoever ends up with it will be happy!
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Nice bow Nate. Too bad it came in under weight. You could add a thin osage or ipe lam to the belly and retiller it. I gained about 10# on a 60" osage static recurve and it didn't take much of a lam to do it.
OH! and nice boo also! d;^)
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NTD, I agree with the others, looks good to me also....Dan
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Well I appreciate it guys.
Pat, the underlay is a good idea but considering I was going to make a bow for this other fella I'll set this one aside for him. You know him Pat, he sent me an incredibly unexpected gift recently.
Oh yeah, the boo was great. Those were two excellent pieces you sent me.
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Nate that bow looks great. I don't know about your trade person but I know that I shoot several different weight bows and wouldn't be dissapointed with a few pounds under.
Very sweet looking bow.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture184.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/BonaGlass/Picture186.jpg)
This bow still came in under weight even after piking it. 42# @ 28". I'm thinking about an underlay like Pat suggested for Nate. I'm thinking about a tapered lam from 3RA. They have walnut, bocote, cocobolo, purple heart, sapele, teak burma and wenge in .065" tapering to .001". They also have osage, zebra, red elm and bamboo in .060" to .001".
Does the lam need to have straight grain? The walnut would have good compression strength also the osage and elm any of them would look good too.
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Straight grain would be best but the compression side isn't as picky as the tension side. I'd also go with the osage. Some of those tropicals might have good compression values but I've not used them.
The lams I used were scraps that were given to me. I just sanded one side smooth, sanded the belly flat and smooth, glued them down in reflex and retillered the bow.
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The bottom limb looks great, but the top limb needs a little work. But your already under your weight. Tiller it out for someone else and make another bow. Or add a belly lam. They sure bump up the weight.
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Thanks guys. The picture isn't the best but I thought the upper limb looked like it needed some more work also. I agree with Pat on the osage, or maybe elm. And I was mistaken on the thickness of the lams. I can get the osage or elm in a .095" thickness so I will go with that.
I don't work with decimals much so I figured it out to be about 3/32".
I've never tried this before. Should be interesting.
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Just got back from the post office, mine is shipped. Could arrive at destination Saturday or early next week. Had to shoot her a few more times this morning in the rain and snow before sending her on her way, neighbors probably think I'm crazy, oh well.....Dan
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:thumbsup:
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I'm back home with my lams. I found some flat grained osage and they are 1 1/2" wide. The bow is a flat bow and the lams are about 1/16 shy on each side of the lams of being as wide as the bow at the fades. It will have more of a crowned belly which it isn't suppose to be for a pyramid design but I don't think it will hurt anything really.
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Dan I will update my records to show you as shipped.
Can't waite to see your progress B
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Hey Kelly how many bows have found their home so far?
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At my count stiks, 8 bows have been recieved, I dont think I missed any, and 1 enroute.
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Just a thought but could we start a thread for the received bows. I would love to have a post with a picture and recipient of the bow at full draw just to get an idea of what everyone has been given. I'm sure I'll get lost trying to find them otherwise. Could be a potential reference that would be easy to obtain pictures from if someone wanted to document or follow up with what has been given.
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Good idea, Goose....this thread gets pretty involved to go looking for just the finished bows.
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Great idea !
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As soon as whomever is making my bow sends it to me( d;^) ) I'll start a thread unless someone else wants to star it!
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Pat, I was going to do that, maybe I'll get mine first.
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I also think that's an awesome idea, why don't you go ahead with it Ranger since you were the first one to ship your bow.
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OK Ranger, the ball(bow) is in your court!
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OK
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im doing some uploading for work so ill snap some pics and put em up...
still havent figured out a way to use the existing handle as a lock for hte garage ,so my things are elsewhere...im almost ready to get a padlock...
i figured i would have had it done and gone by now...
glad to see everyone getting down ...-hov
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Hey ?????????? Worked on your bow some more today. She is starting to look more like a bow now. Got side tracked and forgot to document all the steps but she recieved some Gemsbuck horn tips and is rough tillered with a little more weight to drop off.
Here are a few pics showing the nocks being done.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4822.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4823.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4824.jpg)
Shaped the tips, cut in the groves and did a sand down on the horn before applying her new skins. Forgot pics while working the tips down. Here is where she is now.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4829.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4831.jpg)
The skins are over the sinew so I will give her a good week to dry before finall tiller and sand out.
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Looking good
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Wow, Keenan! ????????? is gonna love that bow right there. I ain't gonna lie I'm pretty excited about it for him, or was it her? :dunno: I'll never tell, LOL
Stiks
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:bigsmyl: Thanks guys. Sure is fun thinking about what your victim, I mean recipient, might want.
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She's a real beauty Keenan. I'll be your victum any day! d;^)
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That looks sweet Keenan!
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I give myself another try at this tillering thing and Hey, I think I got it this time. I reached my draw length, I wanted and reached the weight I was trying to get too. I built my riser with a rounded curve on the side facing the back and was able to get more arc. I hope ya'll know what I'm trying to say.All the other bows had a straight or flat bottom on the risers. When I pull to full draw it was easier to get my arc. on the limbs. It is a laminated hickory backed longbow with a hickory belly lam. Here is a picture of the tillering. (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/genegillis5/bows%202011/SDC10338.jpg)
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Keenan, Man I respect those snakes, and when I opened your post I actually jumped. That thing looked real laying there. Good job on your bow, it really looks good. Someone ought to really be proud of that besides you.
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Keenan / Gene, looking good, I'm sure who ever receives either bow will be a proud victim...Dan
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Lookin great guys !
Here's what i've been working on for the trade.
Hickory
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow014.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow013.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow011.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow009.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow001.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow008.jpg) 50@16 right more, more scraping to do !
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Looka like fun John.
Keenan- Very cool skins. I like the way that juniper contrasts like that.
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Well Got the stain and the trueoil on ---'s bow today. Made a string and handle wrap for it and have been shooting it. It's a little too much bow for me though.Guess those North of me grow bigger. I need to put the writing on and shoot--'s bow a little more and ship it out . Need a little more time to play with it. I sure hope it's close enough to please---. Sure was fun.
(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/genegillis5/SDC10340.jpg) (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/genegillis5/SDC10343.jpg) (http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/genegillis5/SDC10344.jpg)
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Getting close, have to put a finish on and send it on it's way to --------------------. (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0180.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0174.jpg) Sorry for the crappy pix of the tips.
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Wow, the bows are really coming together now.
Nice work everyone.
I started mine this weekend (actually second try - first one came out a bit too light). I have to head out of town this week for work, so won't get a chance to work on it again until next weekend. Why is it that work always gets in the way of important things?
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It appears there are some great looking bows nearing the finish stage, I would be happy with any of them.
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Well, my bow student finished his bow today, now there will be time to get back to the Osage selfbow. I have a BBI and R/D glass bow sanded and in a bow-sock, ready for the spray booth. The Osage selfbow is just starting floor tiller. When all three are finished, I’ll post pictures of them and see which one the perspective recipient likes, or if he does not see the post, whichever one that is the most popular, and send it on. The other two will go to Tradgangs St. Judes Auction.
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Walt, you are a good Man Sir.. ^5 Roy
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Definitely a lot of talent here! They look great.
Ran into a fellow bowyer at a local Gun show today. He said he visits TG but is a lurker. I've got his email and phone number, I'm going to try to get him to come out of the shadows.
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Get this, I go to 3RA and get the lams to bump up the weight on this bow. While I'm there I get a few other things one of which is a new digital bow scale. I come home and get the lams glued on as soon as I can. So yesterday I'm working down the edges and getting ready to re-tiller. The glue line isn't the greatest on one limb so I fill in a spot and I'm waiting for it to dry so I get out the new scale and try it out.
I try it on another bow I've been working on and it turns out to be about ten pounds heavier than I thought it was! So I check out some bows with known weights and sure enough it is accurate! This means I just put limb underlays on a bow that was plenty heavy enough! What I thought was 42# @ 28" was really 52# @ 28"!!!
I guess I don't have enough experience to feel the difference or maybe I thought I was just having a "weak" day when they seemed heavier than I thought they were. :smileystooges: :rolleyes: :o
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Well now you know B. now you know. LOL
Glad to see the movement on the bows, 3 more close to finish and they look great.
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Looking great, everyone. Really awesome bows you're turning out. I'm checking this thread way too much to see if there's any progress at all since five minutes ago...
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Great job all of you!
Keenan- I'd take that critter off your hands anyday, I love them snake skin bows! That's awesome, I could scare my nephews outta their socks with that bow! :biglaugh:
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Yes Kelly, now I know. I'm glad I do!
That bow looks awsome Keenan!
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no doubt keenan- that bow looks sweet!
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We are half way to the deadline! Should start getting real good now, more bows finding new homes and lots of happy bowyers shooting other bows from the Gang.
Stiks
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Thanks guys for the compliments. I've had her in the house on some elk antlers by the stove to help make sure the sinew has completely cured out since adding the skins. Got the edges trimmed up to show a small reviel of the sapwwod. In a few days I'll start the final tiller and see how she shoots. Often it is wise to not do the skins untill you have a "shooter" and know it will hold up. However with the sinew I feel confindent she is going to hold up to the draw length of ** for *********. Talked to a friend of ***** and he thinks he will be pleased. :bigsmyl:
Gene that is a very nice looking bow, Good job on the tiller. However thirty inches is about five inches over my draw lenght. LOL
Former that has some very nice character and going to be a real head turner.
Bone, nice looking takedown. Great combo of woods.
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Wow so many are done and I'm still working on getting started. I have striped down some juniper to get it ready to try to ruff it out. I am having a hard time seeing a bow on anything I have cut. It looks good on the tree but when I get home it's to twisty or knotty. Here's one. (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/024.jpg)
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It split alittle funny being thin and twisted on one end. It has some bug damage on one end too but I think I can get a shorter bow out of it maybe 55". (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/025.jpg)
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I would realy like to do one from juniper stave for the swapp but if I fail have have another board bow I also starting on. If Keenan would stop making all those pretty juniper bows I'd leave this twisty juniper alone lol.
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Here's my trade bow after the first round of heating. I've since gotten it tillered on the short string out to 10 inches and tweaked one limb with heat again to line things up. I've got to correct one little whoop-dee-do to get the string to track the way I want it, and then I'll continue tillering. :)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4761.jpg)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4762.jpg)
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Twitch and 4est, Looking good!
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cant waite for more.
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Well this is my first laminated bow(bamboo,osage ,hickory and yew) .If you look back in my post's it came out way to light due to me using too abrupt reflex in my form.So i went ahead and tillered it out .It came out 25 pounds's too light.So I Cut the riser off, laminated 1/8" osage lambs to the belly.Clamped it to a straight form and it came out 25 pounds too heavy.But the tiller still looked great.So i removed wood from the belly and worked it down within four pounds of the max target weight.I thought with the finish sanding and shooting in it would loose the four pounds.Well it didnt.But the bow shoots great,very well mannered.Ive ben shooting the heck out of it for allmost two months since I finished it.I wanted to make sure it would hold up for its new owner.I even shot a 3-d shoot with it and did rather well.Its well shot in.Im very happy with the way it turned out.the only issue I have is it is 4 pounds over my persons max target weight.I really dont want to try to take any more off the belly because my finish turned out good.(7 coats of tru oil).So im asking.What do you think fellas should I ship it? (http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu154/618scottm/unfinishedgrip.jpg)
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Here are finished pics.Hill style grip with slight dish. (http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu154/618scottm/gripbefroewrap.jpg)
(http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu154/618scottm/finishedgrip.jpg)
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Ship it, Scott! 4 lbs. over shouldn't be a problem. That's a nice lookin' bow. An underlay of 1/8" osage seems to have made quite a difference in poundage. I've been contimplating using an underlay on one of my first board bows that came out pretty light. Just to see how it'll work. You just convinced me it would do well.
Great work. :archer2:
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x2 with red hill. Ship it bro. Nicely done btw.
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Beautiful full draw, Scott. Very nice bow!
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The only question is UPS or UPPS.
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USPS, Priority mail with delivery confirmation. It will be there in 2 or 3 days!
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Nice Scott! put her in the mail bud.
Stiks
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Just my luck....
Got my 3rd trade bow glued up (hickory backed red oak) a few weeks ago and just got around to cutting it out recently - (I glued in 3" of reflex)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/AKmud/archery/DSCN0452.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/AKmud/archery/DSCN0453.jpg)
This red oak 1x4 looked PERFECT on the outside but when I cut out the taper I found this -
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/AKmud/archery/DSCN0457.jpg)
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j96/AKmud/archery/DSCN0458.jpg)
There was NO evidence of a knot on either side... :banghead: I'm hoping once I get it worked down that it will be small enough it won't be an issue. What do you guys think? The limbs are about 5/8" at this point so I have quite a bit of shaping to do, it's not even floor tillered yet.
The bow is 2" wide at the fades tapering down to 1/2". I thought about trimming it on all sides, but I don't know if I will have enough meat left over to make weight...
Ideas?
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Put your helmet, eye protection and cup on just in case! d;^)
If you hadn't shaped your handle area you could have reduced the side with the knot on it. That knot worries me!!!
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I am thinking of just trimming from the handle to just past the knot then doing the other three sides the same. This will give me a straight limb profile for about 6" then will taper to the tips.... The knot appears to be 1/16-1/8" deep so I shouldn't lose too much material.
The more I work with wood, the more I like metal! (metal is hard to tiller though...) :)
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Scott M
ship and and let me know when you do!
AKmud cant help with that one looks good though
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AKmud, saturate it with super glue and let that cure before you reduce the width.
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I ended up taking about 3/16" off starting a the widest part of the fade. The straight profile ran out to about 5" past the knot then the original taper took over. There is a little bit of darker wood still, but it appears solid. Hopefully it will tiller out OK.
I narrowed the handle down to just over 1" and re-shaped the fades. I think I saved it but that knot area still has me a bit nervous.
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Okay, here's where I'm at with my trade bow. It's 68" tip to tip with a pyramidal limb shape (i.e. sides tapering in a straight line from fade to tip and an even limb thickness). I've got quite a bit of tweaking to do, but right now it's on the short string (4" brace) and tillered to 20". It shows 1 3/4" of reflex when relaxed, and 7/8" when immediately unstrung (as shown in the last picture). My camera really curves the image, so it looks like it's dead flat in that picture. Sorry. I'm looking forward to sending this one on in the next month or so. :)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4790.jpg)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4791.jpg)
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AKmud, looks good from down here. Did you reduce the red oak before glue up, or glue the hickory on before reducing the board?
4est, you've gotta a sweet bow there.
Stan
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Red, I reduced it after the glue up. I've been having trouble making weight lately so I didn't want to take a chance again! :)
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Very nice bow, I'm sure the recipient will be very happy.
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Well, I'm about to start. Or at least closer than I was. Wife's bathroom is all but done, and I picked up a piece of ipe this morning from a contractor cleaning out his barn. The plan is (and has been for some time) a bbi bow. Haven't made one yet, but I can't get it out of my head. I guess it's time to order the boo and make some progress. I really don't want to scramble at the last minute.
Anyone know how ipe responds to dry heat?
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looking good
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spot on, 4est. looking good
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Thanks, AKmud.
Stan
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Scott, That looks awesome, Send her off, Very nice bow,
Akmud, I second Pat's advice.
$est, That is looking sweet! Great tiller
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I decided to build a recurve for my swap bow. I just finished up a warm up bow (my first recurve) to hopefully get me ready to put together a decent bow for X. I will be building on the same form of the bow I just finished. Thanks Greg for the help and the use of your form.
Here is a shot of the warm up bow:
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/e243b6f6.jpg)
Here are the riser materials. Black Locust , Purple Heart, Yellow Heart, Maple and Bocote.
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/be99b251.jpg)
Here are the veneers: GOLDEN RAIN
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/51b1a1bf.jpg)
Greg and I found this wood at a local business specializing in urban trees, the Black Locust and Golden Rain came from there.
I can't wait to see this under glass, it really is pretty stuff.
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Looking beautiful. That recurve is a great "warm up"
Can't wait to see what else you turn out
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Ooh thats going to be beautiful, very nice warm up.
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Lane,
I done told you wrong, that tree was called golden rain or pride of india, not tree of paradise. Either way it's really good looking bow wood and I'm sure xxxx xxxxxxx xx xxxxxxx will love it.
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Good job, bowfisher. That "warm up" bow looks great!
Stan
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Another nice bow and it is warm up! holy cow cant waite to see the real one.
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I would be happy with the "warm up bow", it has a nice shape. Greg, is there any chance I could see a picture of the form?
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Walt, I have the form at my house, I'll take a picture of it and post it up later today.
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Canopy boy, I don't know how ipe reacts to heat but I know most tropicals don't like dry heat. My uncle heated a piece of Jatoba and it folded as soon as he put strain on it.
If your wanting to put in reflex I would glue it in on a BBI.
Stiks
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4est awesome work as always!
k30 : is the black locust the green looking stripe in that riser? thats hella sexy!
still workin on getting set up here in the new house. got a bit of a workbench (old dresser they left) , so thats a step closer... i might work something up with some pipe clamp or something...
been scrambling to get the baby's 2nd birthday present going , its not trad related , but its gonna put a smile on his face for a long , long time.
keep it up guys, i cant wait to get back into it now that im at my own place!
-hov
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I know of 2 bows shipped so ******** and ******** let me know when you get them.
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Mine is almost ready for low brace. Gluing up an accent piece of zebra wood on the handle. The knot disaster was averted after adjusting the profile a bit and working the thickness down during tillering. Hopefully there won't be any more surprises with this one!
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Just got back from the post office.I shipped my trade bow out.Watch your porch!The eagle is expected to land on 04-07-2011.
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Was working on my trade bow last night and got it tillered to draw length. Now comes the fun part. Sanding and adding all the little finishing touches to make em pretty.
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hey dvs annd all u guys finnaly back home for a week wind doin 70 mph hope it quits so i can cut some juniper might stayin and work on trade bows next mondays it off again another 8 weeks on road and then week off and another 8 weeks mojam aint lookin good haha u get my e mail today how was ojam i hated to miss it brock
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Hey there?????? I shot your bow about 50 plus rounds yesterday, shot real good. Today she got a finish sand and the detail work on her skins and tips, then a light coat of sealer to protect the skins. I want to take her to a friend that shoots your style and draw length to make sure she's ready for the finish.
What I've designed for you is an ambush style bow that is short for use in a tree stand or ground blind. She is a 58" sinewed juniper that is a slight bend through the handle design to give full advantage of her limns to accomidate your draw length. I am happy to say that she has been tillered to one inch past your draw length. And seems to have handled it well. :bigsmyl: I'm getting excited in hopes that this will be a favorite hunting bow for you.
Here is what a group at 20 yards looked like.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/IMG_4853.jpg)
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Canopy boy, I don't know how ipe reacts to heat but I know most tropicals don't like dry heat. My uncle heated a piece of Jatoba and it folded as soon as he put strain on it.
If your wanting to put in reflex I would glue it in on a BBI.
Stiks
I will probably just do anything by gluing it in. But I may also play with some scraps just to see. I'll post any results I get.
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Keenan looks like shes a shooter!Nice arrows by the way!Love the feathers!
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Walt, here is a picture of Greg's recurve form.
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/35c67af8.jpg)
Hova, the Black Locust is the brownish colored wood on the outsides of the stack. I think what you are seeing as green is the Yellow Heart. I took that pic with my iPhone so it is not the best quality.
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I cant wait to see it Keenan.
I worked on my trade bow again tonight. Slimmed the tips some and picked out a few decorations for it. I decided on Wenge for overlays. I got a pretty cool looking piece picked out. I'm also planning on a handle overlay to match the tips... Or I might stain and skin. I can't make up my mind. I've got some killer skins here, but lately I've been really liking the simple beauty of all wood, expecially as it darkens in the sun, so we'll see I guess.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0109-1.jpg)
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No full draw till completion.
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Lane, Thanks.
DVS that bow is looking good!
Keenan, I would be ecstatic with the bow you made. However, I have found the person drawing the bow, with some matched arrows, has more influence on a grouping like that then the bow. That there is a good grouping!
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David, I got a template of your caul coming in the mail! Looks like it turns out some sweet bows.
Keenan, she looks like a shooter. I'm sure ************ will be pleased. I know I would be.
I'm gonna use your caul design for my trade bow David so I may be giving you a call to pick your brain on it. Let me know if your going to the classic and I will round you up a few good staves of some hackberry or something.
Stiks
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I'm going to try my best to get there. Work may have other ideas. I'm already taaking off some time for turkey hunting this month so we'll see if it happens.
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I tell ya there is some fine looking bows being made, and more to come
so that is 3 bow hitting doorsteps here real soon. I bet there is some really hard praying going on now.
I know *****and *********** and ** ** *** is going to love these bows once they hit there steps.
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Looks like things are really coming together, can't wait to see them finished. There's gonna be a lot of happy folks in the next few weeks when these bows start showing up on door steps....Dan
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DVS -- Go for the simple beauty of wood. Don't cover it up with skins. Especially given the bumper sticker in the background.
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David, I think you're right. I already started with the overlays, but man, are these rings thin. I've pulled it an inch past draw so i feel confident its safe.
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Ok, the slacker has finally ordered his boo. While on the phone I also decided to get some smoothon from Binghams as well and try that.
The kids spring break is only a week away, and guess who gets to stay home with them? Should mean time to get this thing started. With any luck, I won't be the last to ship.
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One more coat of finish, add a leather wrap to the grip, and XXXXX's bow will be finished. Should be done by Saturday or Sunday and shipped out early next week. I'll post some pics this weekend.
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Some real nice looking bows being built...I got started last weekend and made a mess in the shop on some Hackberry but it's still a bit wet.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_2594Medium.jpg)
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I think I may speed things up a bit this weekend.
HBH Board but I've tweaked a few times after this pic
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_2603Medium.jpg)
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I am going to have to cut some Hackberry when I get back. There is tons of it nere my house in KS. nice looking start westtexan.
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Looking great WestTex. Nice tiller.
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Finished my Swap Bow this morning.
It's a Hill Style longbow; walnut on the back and belly under clear glass; actionboo core; curly maple riser and tips. I test fired a few this morning and I really like how it turned out. Hope XXXXX likes it. I'll ship it out sometime early this next week.
Here's some pics.
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap/CAM_1890.jpg)
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap/CAM_1878.jpg)
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(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap/CAM_1887.jpg)
Of course on this last one I had to hide XXXXX's name, the draw weight, and draw length to keep you all guessing who's getting it.
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Excellent! Gotta love that walnut!
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great job fellas
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Excellent. Very nice clean lines and subtle colors, Good job.
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Good looking bow, westtexan. That hackberry looks interesting.
jsweka, love the Hill style. Good job.
Stan
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Love the look of that hill bow. Would happily give it a new home.
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WestTexan, The hackberry that I used for my trade bow turned out well I hope yours does too. I've never worked with it before, but liked working with it and plan to cut some more as soon as the leaves start to pop.
jsweka, I like the look of the walnut and maple together, makes a fine looking bow....Dan
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It was Christmas in April at my house today, my bow from Mr. Gillis arrived this morning. I couldn't be happier with the bow, very good looking bow. I shot some arrows through it and they flew really good even though they weren't spined right at all. I am very please with the bow. Mr. Gillis also sent some arrows and stone points that I'm guessing he knapped along with the bow. My one big hunting goal is to kill a deer with a stone point and its lookin like I might have a real good shot at it this fall thanks to the kindness of Mr. Gillis. The caliber of people one this site continues to amaze me, thank you very much Mr. Gillis and thanks to the rest of tradgang.
Here she is
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l509/hatcreek1/pic5.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l509/hatcreek1/pic4.jpg)
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Heck yeah Rogers! Looks you'll be hunting with some stone heads.
I missed a doe this past fall with a stone head. My heart was pumping harder than if it was a big buck. Great thrill hunting with primitive gear.
stiks
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Looks like you're good to go, Caleb. Nice looking bow. Good luck with the stones!
Stan
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Glad you like the hickory bow, Caleb. Sure hope it serves ya well and you have a great time hunting with the points. I forgot to mention the wooden peg isn't glued in for an arrow rest in case you want to remove it . Thanks for your kind words, Gene.
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jsweka,
That is a nice looking bow and I know ***** is going to love it.
rogers,
Looks like you are going to have a good hunting bow and arrows to boot.
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Thanks for all the compliments on my swap bow everyone!
I have to put a plug in here for kennym. I've purchased lams from him for my last three builds now, including my swap bow. Beautiful wood, excellent quality, fast service, and just an overall pleasure to do business with. Someday I might start grinding my own lams, but until that day, Kenny will be my supplier.
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I love that bow...I have a soft spot for Hill style sticks.
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My bow arrived last week from jamesv and it looks real nice but havent got to shoot it yet cuz my shoulders been bothering me.=( Finally started my bow today i found a nice piece of hickory in my lumber pile thats solid sapwood and Im thinkin it will turn out real nice
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I'm starting over (again...). The HBRO I had going was 65" tip to tip and was looking good till I got out to about 25". I think fixing that knot ruined things for me. I'm not pleased with the tillering and if I keep at it I won't make weight so I'm shelving it and moving on.
I'm going to try the same combination at a full 70-72" and hopefully I won't find another hidden knot!
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Iv got my wood sittin and waitin to be a bow but I wont be able to start till college lets out, my last final is the 28th of this month. Iv got some really nice wood, I can't wait to start xxxxxxxx's bow.
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The bows are looking good everyone
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I worked on the tips of my trade bow the other night. I am going with wenge and no skins.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0126.jpg)
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0127-1.jpg)
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Wenge is a good choice David, ought to come out great.
The bows are pouring in now. :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
I will be building a caul for my trade bow this weekend and get started on it. I changed plans mid stream so I kinda been on hold with it.
Kris
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Just curious on how you become involved in the swap? I was thinking maybe when i get to the level yall are at I can get in the mix....
Thanks Yall's work is awsome
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JSM, Next January or so we will be starting another bow trade. All you have to do is wanna join in the fun.
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Thanks pat... That gives me roughly 8 months to play the build and brake game.... Lol
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JSMOFFITT03,
Some in this years swap had less time than that, one bow under their belts if that.
the purpose is to share and learn from each other, and to have fun.
Kelly
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JSMOFFITT03,
I was one that was convinced to join in this years swap with exactly one bow made at that point. I have since built one more and have three in the works. Two of them are practice for the third that will be my trade bow. I was convinced that trying hard is all it takes to please people here in this bow swap. I hope it turns out that way.
I'm not very good about taking and posting pictures but I hope to show what I have done sooner rather than later. I'm about ready to mix up some Urac for a glue-athon that will include handles, backing and my first try with billets. It will be putting my supply of clamps to a big test. My wood species used have been red oak, hard maple, hickory and cherry. Wish me luck! I hope I provide someone else half the fun I am having building and learning.
Thanks to everyone here for providing tons of info.
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JSM, I've built/broken about 16 bows thus far. Six are still flinging arrows and 1 I hunt with. I watched from the fringe last year but decided to try this year. It's a blast. The folks on this site are more than helpful.
Like Pat said, next January jump in.
Stan
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Thanks for the encouragement... I plan on it, this site is truely amazing. Ill be watching to see the trades... good luck to all...
Jerrod
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Here's an update on my trade bow. I've piked it to 65" tip to tip and am right on track to hit the recipient's weight. Here's a picture showing it drawn 2" short of the intended draw length on the tree. The left limb is the bottom limb, and therefore a bit stronger near the fade. It draws even in the hand with low heel pressure (which is what I've guessed my recipient shoots from previous posts). I've put about 50 shots through it, and it's flat after unstringing, settling to about 3/4" of reflex when relaxed. I heated 2" of reflex in originally and began with a stave 68" tip to tip. The tips are a bit wide and stiff at this point in case I decide to flip them a touch.
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4840.jpg)
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Very promising, 4est. Looking forward to the outcome!
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Looking good 4est!
JSM,
I started the first bow swap last year. I had exactly 3/4 of a bow and several broken sticks under my belt.
Last year my trade bow was a boo backed jatoba that turned out pretty good with the help of the Gang. I have built several good shooters since.
The trade went so good last year we decided to do it every year and every one is welcome.
look forward to having you in next year.
Stiks
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Nice, 4est.
You mentioned that you left the tips a little wide in case you decide to flip'em. Is it best to leave the tips thicker and wider for adding a little recurve? I'm working on an osage selfbow but can't flip because of knots close to the tips. I've also thinned and narrowed them already. "Horse before the cart" sort of thing.
I've not tried heat bending or heat treating yet.
Good work,
Stan
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Alrighty then, finally getting the ball rolling and I'm getting excited. Holding the boo shavings in my hands last night really flipped the switch.
Ipe? -- Check.
Boo? -- Check.
Smoothon? -- Check.
Form? -- Check.
Hot Box -- Up next.
I'm trying something new (although it's all new to me). But I have enough stuff for 3 attempts.
Best part is the lady of the house is leaving for the west coast on Friday and I should be able to fit in lots of unsupervised bow building time!
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4est, looking real good, can't wait to see it all purty'd up.....Dan
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A lot of great bows. Someday i hope to have enough skill and the space to make a bow so i can join in.
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you guys are looking awesome. i have been working on something completely non-trad , and it has to be done by tomorrow (including paint and wiring!!!
once thats done and the baby's second bday is over , i am going to get out in the garage and turn it into my bow shop.
we got spring turkey comin up here tooooooo soon and i want to get the molle i got in the swap all figured out and maybe use it for turkey this year...
other than that , i cant wait to have a real tree together. i have a garage that i can drill and nail and cut and do what i want , m going to be in heaven.
keep it up , ill take some pics one of these days...
-hov
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you guys are looking awesome. i have been working on something completely non-trad , and it has to be done by tomorrow (including paint and wiring!!!
once thats done and the baby's second bday is over , i am going to get out in the garage and turn it into my bow shop.
we got spring turkey comin up here tooooooo soon and i want to get the molle i got in the swap all figured out and maybe use it for turkey this year...
other than that , i cant wait to have a real tree together. i have a garage that i can drill and nail and cut and do what i want , m going to be in heaven.
keep it up , ill take some pics one of these days...
-hov
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you guys are looking awesome. i have been working on something completely non-trad , and it has to be done by tomorrow (including paint and wiring!!!
once thats done and the baby's second bday is over , i am going to get out in the garage and turn it into my bow shop.
we got spring turkey comin up here tooooooo soon and i want to get the molle i got in the swap all figured out and maybe use it for turkey this year...
other than that , i cant wait to have a real tree together. i have a garage that i can drill and nail and cut and do what i want , m going to be in heaven.
keep it up , ill take some pics one of these days...
-hov
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wow triple post... mods wanna clear the extras
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WOW! came home yesterday to a really tall package leaning against my front door. Didn't much look like the arrow shafts I was waiting for. To my great suprise my swap bow had arrived. I am now the proud owner of a John Sweka longbow. John the bow is beautiful and shoots great. I couldn't be happier.
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Right on Burnt! I expect I'll be seeing that at the annual hunt in october.
Stiks
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Burnt - I'm glad you like it. I look forward to seeing the results of your October hunt with Stiks. In the mean time, how about posting some full draw pics when you get a chance.
John
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You bet Stiks. Probably even let you shoot it some. John I'll look into photo bucket and if I can I'll get some pix posted.
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Pictures?
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Pic-tures! Pic-tures! Pic-tures!
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I finished up my trade bow tonight. It has a few coats of thunderbird curing as we speak. Its a 3 piece take down recurve, black glass, everything else is green mountain camo....pics coming mid week.
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Well, I guess I only had to go back a few pages and refresh which bow John built. Wonderful. Still need to see burnt post some at full draw.
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Howdy, folks. Here's an update on my trade bow. I flipped the tips just a tiny bit using the kerf technique (i.e. I resawed the last several inches of the limb and glued in a thin rosewood lamination while inducing reflex). I than added rosewood tip underlays and overlays. I haven't yet roughed in the handle.
It's shown at my full draw, which is still 2" short of the recipient's. It's also going to come out smack dab at the bottom end of the recipient's requested weight. I would have liked about 3-5# on this one, but I think it will do just fine. After working it in to the recipient's full draw and shooting it a bunch at my draw length the tips are about dead even after unstringing, settling to about 1/2" of reflex when relaxed. Not perfect, but I'm a-okay with it. I've turned the final full draw picture sideways and cropped it so you can get a better look. Thanks!
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4847.jpg)
Top limb is on top here:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4853.jpg)
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4est,
Love those tips...nice tiller!
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Hey that's great! People need to post more pictures of what they're buildin' because i'm sure there's a whole lot more going on here than what's being posted, and I for one wanna see it!
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4est trekker that is one nice looking stick you turned out. nice tips on it.
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Pic-tures! Pic-tures! Pic-tures!
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Well gang I was hoping to have some tillering pics up today but last night I had my trade bow blow up on me. It was coming along alright. But, and I don't know if any of you guys feel this, but something about that darn bow never felt right. From glue-up to screw-up, I always felt like she was a misfit.
And then BAM!. Could be a manifestation of some sorts, or I just could've had my gut be right. Either way, she dead. First try with lignum, and I think i'm gonna go with it again for my recipient. That stuff is easy on the eyes.
Ahhhh the lessons we learn in the shop.
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Here we go, almost ready to roll. Its in from the shop and a couple more days for the finish to cure, prior to rest, string, shoot and ship.
Its a 62" T/D, green mountain camo everything and black glass. Matte TB finish. Hope you like it Mr/Mrs X.
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/Picture019.jpg)
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Sorry to hear about the Blow up, I have one above my head now that I blew up in the final stages.
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Sorry to hear about your bow Fish.Brad Beautiful job.
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Nice job 4est.Awsum tips!
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I might get done with mine this weekend, but it IS turkey season now......... :D
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Brad great lookiing bow.
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I've had bows that are just plain poison before. I just quit on 'em. I know evil when I feel it :)
brad, that is HOT!
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Fish an Chiks sorry to hear about the blow up.
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I've been watching a little spot on the lower fade that was fishy from the start. It appeared to be a slight defect in the wood that I noticed after heating in the reflex. It has since developed into a chrysal. It has been holding fine after about 50 shots today at full draw (which is two inches longer than mine and ain't easy to manage for my scrawny little arms!). However, I could never send it off in its present condition, so I decided to repair the area using a rosewood plug. Here's some pictures of the process. The first is of the offending area:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4858.jpg)
I've roughly marked my 1/4" diameter hole to be sure I can remove all of the damaged wood:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4865.jpg)
Next, I clamp the bow to my drill press work table and properly align a 1/4" straight cutting router bit will a flat bottom profile. I set the drill press to the highest RPM's and then drill the hole:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4866.jpg)
I use a 1/4" plug cutter to cut out a Honduras rosewood plug. H. rosewood has a specific gravity of about 0.90 while osage is around 0.82. I use a wood denser than the bow for the plug to help prevent it from collapsing on itself:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4867.jpg)
I saturate the hole with superglue and tap the plug home:
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4869.jpg)
A little sanding and we're back in business:
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Looks kind of like a wart, eh? I'll leave it sit overnight and start drawing it some tomorrow. Thanks for looking.
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plug looks kinda cool, 4est.
great bow bjansen. sure looks awesome
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Nice fix 4est.
Mr. Jansen: Beautiful sir.
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Sorry 'bout your trade bow, fish.
Brad, that is one sharp take-down. Very nice.
4est, I really enjoy your posts. You have a lot of good stuff to share.
Stan
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4est, Nice looking work on the bow and the plug, I'd be proud to hang it on my bow rack!!
Fish, sorry to hear about the blow up, had the same thing happen to my first trade bow also, the second time was a charm though. I'm sure your's will be too.
Bjansen, love the color combination of the wood with the black glass, looks awesome.
Dan
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Very slick looking package, Brad! Having been the lucky recipient of your bow last year I can vouch that whoever gets that dropped on their doorstep might want to keep a spare pair of britches handy :bigsmyl:
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Thank you for the pictures!
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wow, wow, WOW!!
awesome bows everyone!!!
and that plug really adds character.
man there are some crafters out there!
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Amazing plug 4est and I love the look of those fades with the growth rings!
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Man....a guy learns something every day! I never would have guessed you could repair a bow like that 4est. Thanks for the "repair along". :)
bjansen, that is a beautiful takedown. I'm starting to feel the urge to give glass a try! (my wife will be rolling her eyes...)
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Looking great guys, Awsome TD Brad, I know how you feel fish. I blew up not 1 but 2 yew staves in a row.
Nice fix 4est, I just fixed one with a torges patch and it worked like a charm.
I got my caul cut today for my trade bow and plan on doing some heat bending this weekend.
Stiks
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Fish sorry to hear that you blew on up, but if you did not have a good vibe on it most likey it was a good thing.
Nice fix 4ester
great looking bow bjansen I know that ******* is just going to love it.
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Great fix 4est and a great looking bow
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Ah man, you guys are making me feel lazy, so I had to go out and start mine. Laid everything out on my backing and cut to shape, should be able to glue up by the weekend and start bending the week after. I'll add some shots for all of you when things get moving.
Adam
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Alright, so here's an update on the "plug patch." There seems to be no ill effect on the bow. Here it is drawn to 1" shy of full draw. Sorry about the poor picture...it's at work where I often use the large mirrors to tiller a bow. :)
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thanks for the pics of the plug forrest. I've been thining about that for a bow at the house. Nice bow brad. Very nice.
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I got the other tip on today while the baby was sleeping. I'ma try an get the handle overlay done tonight and then some finishing touches with the sandpaper for the next ninty hours! and then its all finish and ship.
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First I usa a file to flatten the tip and overlay. Then a little sandpaper to clean it up.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0141-1.jpg)
Then supergle it on and file it down to match the profile of the tip. Don't forgt to pre taper the overlay so it will be a smooth transition.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/CIMG0142-1.jpg)
Then just a matter of filing the grooves around and shaping the tip to how you like em.
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Awsome work to all....
:clapper: :pray:
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Looking good everyone! I've been slacking- we had a tornado run right thru the front yard a week and a half ago- crazy! We survived the storm every tree that fell missed the house and vehicles (not by much) So I have been busy cutting all this crudy hickory, white ash and pin cherry for firewood---- ha- firewood my butt
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I'm finally getting around to starting my swap bow for XXXXXXXX
I sure hope S/HE likes its. It feels good to be back to making dust.
Shawn
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Just spent a couple of hours reading over the posts here on the trade thread. There are some trully beautiful works of art being turned out! The creativity displayed is very inspiring. Many of you guys have skills that I'll most certainly never develope.
Oh, yeah... Where are the wrong-handed bows? All you righties have it made, huh? :dunno:
Stan
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You guys are making me kind of feeling bad, because a lot of you have already finished their bows and I haven't even started. So here I go. Not a lot to show until now, but hey it's a start...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/IMG_0785.jpg)
The riser is burgundry dymondwood and for the limbs I'm going to use cherry with figured maple.
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Andy
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Burgandy dymondwood is my favorite laminate. It looks great when paired with red cedar limbs.
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that is going to be a pretty bow swiss
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Nice block Swiss. My trade bow shipped out today..it shoudld arrive o Tuesday to someone's house.
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Brad, wish it was coming to Mackinaw but I know it isn't.
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I'm ready for it Brad! LOL
Sprayed mine tonite, I guess we ship when ready?
Hope *** ** ************ likes it! :bigsmyl:
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Started my swap bow last week. 66 inch BBO with horn tip over lays, heading out west.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6544.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6542.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6543.jpg)
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Looking great Roy!Nice wood choice Swiss!
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Roy that is a good looking bow there. I bet ************ can't wait to get thier hands on it.
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I have been working on my trade bow. Its 64"TTT 53#@28" Boo back Jotaba and Osage belly. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2862.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2863.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2860.jpg)
Just started to shoot it in, I had a freind pull it back for a full draw pic. He is also helping me break it in, I have that dreaded SD infliction,(short draw) 25" I will be shooting it this week breaking it in. If all goes well will be putting a finish and shipping.
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looks good tradbower,
I bet ****** is chomping at the bit to get their hands on it.
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This bow by tradbower shoots as good as it looks.
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Looke great tradbower !Well done!
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Almost ready to go!
5*# @ 2*" 64" D/R
Bubinbga riser with sapele I-beam and maple accents. Figured cherry veneers and Natural A-boo cores.
I'm gonna run it thru the chrony for giggles,cause it seems pretty quick.
It is right handed, unless I flipped the pics! LOL
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/005-17.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/010-13.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/011-9.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/009-16.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/008-15.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/006-18.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/007-14.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/013-10.jpg)
Hope ****** ******* likes her!!
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nice looking bow kenny.
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Very nice bow, Kenny. The cherry looks awesome !
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Andy
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OH that is a pretty one Kenny. I am gonna start on mine this week. I have never done one of these before so I hope it comes out allright lol....
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Beautiful bow Kenny. The wood combo is very nice and the arch of a circle tiller is right on!
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Kenny that is nice bow. I know ******** ****** will love it.
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Awesome Kenny, I wish you and I were neighbors:)
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Thanks guys, gotta give her one more coat and I'll ship it to the victim! :cool:
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Beautiful bow, Kenny!
Stan
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Beautiful, bow Kenny! I love the riser and wood combination!
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Looks good kenny Great wood combos
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Kenny, beautiful wood combo and work makes for a great looking bow.....Dan
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That is sweet Kenny! I already posted in the other thread in Pow Wow, but had to give ya another round of applause. :clapper:
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I put some finishing touches on my trade bow. Gave it a wrapped leather handle like the other trade bow except dyed black to go with the wenge. I still have to sign it and a few more coats of finish and I'll send it out.
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You guys and glass bows amaze me!
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Sweet looking bow Kenny! Nice work as usual.
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kenny that is just ridiculous. how on earth am i supposed to follow that?!
going to work on getting my trade bow done up. its still at the semi-debarked almost topring'd stage... going to have to work out some way to hold the massive log that i have... might be time to go pick up some 2x12 and make a horse...
gonna look for all-wood shaving horse plans tomorrow , after my 8 hour round trip to buckhannon WV for a 10 minute auto warranty claim... yay...
-hov
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Nice work Kenny, great looking bow, maybe some one from Honest Abe's state will be surprised.
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All of you are amazing !!!
How much fun is this :)
:notworthy:
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Heres some numbers with the 2 arras I had in the shop.
Arra 1--
571 grains
11.42 gpp @ 28" - 173 fps
10.77 gpp @ 29" - 182 fps
10.20 gpp @ 30" - 192 fps
Arra 2 --
394 grains
7.88 gpp @ 28" - 197 fps
7.43 gpp @ 29" - 208 fps
7.04 gpp @ 30" - 216 fps
It'll work!
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Well, I gotta stop shooting my trade bow in before I ruin what few arrows I have left. Here's some indoor shots from 15 yards today...I scared the nock off of one arrow :scared: I've got the handle contoured and am ready for final sanding, finish, etc.
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4900.jpg)
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Pretty impressive numbers Kenny!
4est, good shooting. You can fix that arrow with a footing and new nock! d;^)
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Man these bows are pretty and they shoot well. Talk about cake and eating it too.
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Thanks Pat, That is with a shooting machine with mechanical release,so you can take off 5 fps for real world!
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Dang Kenny those numbers are very impressive!Even with -5 pounds for finger release thats still very fast in my book. 4east thats exactly why i always shoot at the nock of the first arrow i shoot.That way I know there is no chance of me hitting it! LOL! Nice work Fellas!
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Kenny and 4est nice work you two are givivng me a lot to shoot for!
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Now far as my trade bow it's been real crazy for me lately with spring chores,honey-do's and a father inlaw that got beat up pretty bad by a cow while calving. I have been working on a reducing down a couple juniper staves and shaped & back a board bow but just haven't had time to take some pic's and post them yet.
One of the juniper staves is dry enough to start on for ******* and I will save the board bow for a back up plan. If I finish putting back my kitchen I have been remodling I will post some pic's today.
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Nice work Guys!! There will be some happy recipients.
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Wow I think 4est's practice arrows are nicer than my hunting bows!
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I tried to get a few decent pics. I'm going to have to wait for better weather for the rest.
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/tghandle.jpg)
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss13/dvshunter/Bows001-1.jpg)
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Kenny, Those numbers are quite impressive.
4est, it looks you are a shooting machine.
Nice work guys.....Dan
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Nice bow and great numbers Kenny!
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You all have some serious talent! I'm enjoying seeing all of your work. I'm going to have to dust off all my stuff and get back at it, thanks for the motivation.
-Jay
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Thanks guys, didja notice what an extra inch or 2 does for the numbers?
Folks should think about this when buying a bow they can't reach full draw with! LOL
Same speed with a lighter bow and more accuracy to boot!(Not that I shoot worth a crap) :D
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That is very impressive numbers from a longbow Kenny. I've noticed that when I'm shooting through my chrono my release has a major effect on velocity. A smooth clean release at full draw and my anchor point will consistently get 5-7 fps more velocity than a crappy release and missing my anchor. The chrono is just a tool like any other, and I already had it for testing my reloads for pistol and rifle so why not make good use of it as a training aid for proper form and release?
Thanks for posting your results.
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Now there's an interesting idea -- working on releases with a chrono.
Hmmmm....
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Guys, I just got my bow, and I am completely flabergasted. I have never held a trad bow this nice...ever. I dont know how to say thanks enough. My kids and I were out shooting our bows tonight. This is the smoothest, best weapon I can imagine.
I am a relatively new bowyer, and now I am completely worried about my skill level compared to this. I've put the bow on the shelf for a few weeks while we wrap up baseball season (I coach my sons team). half of me can't wait to finish, the other half is embarrassed.
Thank you thank you thank you for this bow. No words to describe this.
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Originally posted by 4est trekker:
Very slick looking package, Brad! Having been the lucky recipient of your bow last year I can vouch that whoever gets that dropped on their doorstep might want to keep a spare pair of britches handy :bigsmyl:
Changing my britches right now. This bow is inspiring.
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Told ya, Monkey Wrench! You done hit the jackpot with a bow from Brad :) Congratulations! Your genuine thankfulness is evident. Now, don't worry another minute about your bow. This isn't a contest but a good-natured, honest swap. Heck, post some pictures of it and we'll make you feel better...right after you get done shooting that bow from Brad :)
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seriously. my first bow looked like a hardly shaped piece of dimensional lumber. it bent nice though. still does. i have cranked it back to 37" and i dont see one stress crack or chrysal yet.
would i submit it to the swap? no. i would definately get it gold plated before sending it out.
-hov
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Monkey Wrench, great to hear you received the bow and that you like it...excellent!
I would not be worried at all and like 4est said, this swap is all good natured and about giving rather than receiving. I think the best part about this forum in general is just getting some ideas and building/construction methods from others so we can all take it to the next level. And the bow swap takes this one step further than just pictures posted.
I received beautiful bow from Trux last year and it allowed me to study his construction method, seeing things that I had never thought of or attempted previously.
Have fun with it!
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I have 12 bow received and 2 I need to see if I missed a post on they should have be received by now Monkey I have updated yours data.
Please if you receive your bow shot me a PM. I try to tracke the ship and receive dates.
Cant wait to see picks of that bow monkey.
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Well said Brad, I've stepped outside my comfort zone since the Bow Swap started just from seeing other methods, pics of bows, and reading the build alongs. I've come a long way from where I started thanks to all the great bowyers here in this forum.
Monkey Wrench........You are one lucky guy! :thumbsup:
Pics, Pics, we need Pics! :goldtooth:
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Mine came in the mail, thanks Scottm. You did a nice job on it. I will try to get some pics up. I havn't shot it much, staying with my regular set-up until turkey season is over.
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with lovethehunts that is 13 and was one of the ones I need to check on.
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I glued up my swap bow last night. Here are a couple of teaser pics. I'll post more when I get it finished. The limbs have Golden Rain veneers, back and belly with maple cores. The riser is homemade action wood laminated Black Locust, Bocote, Yellow Heart, Maple, Purple Heart, Maple, Yellow Heart, Bocote in the accent stripe.
Top Limb, Belly Side
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/c628f85c.jpg)
Bottom Limb, Belly Side
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/a4981347.jpg)
Riser:
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/424303f6.jpg)
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Look Greg, all the mud washed out of my jacket from last week. I used it for a background for these photos so you would believe me.
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Lots of different woods there, very Nice Lane!Cant wait to see more.
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Lane - That's gonna be a sharp looking bow :thumbsup:
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That's looking nice. No matter how hard you try to keep the kids clean they always find a mud puddle to play in. Of course the entire 3-D range was a mud puddle.
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Looking very good!
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I made a little progress this weekend. It's a wavy, snaky critter so the hinge looking area on the left side is just how the tree grew.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_0505.jpg)
The string fell way outside the handle until I corrected it. Here's the before.
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_0507.jpg)
I plan to skin it with a bullsnake that shouldn't have been crossing the road. How about a tiller check from one of you guys that do the fancy photoshop circles and lines magic?
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/tlholder86/101_0511.jpg)
Thanks for lookin.
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Brad nailed it on the spirit of the swap. When I first came up with this idea it was based on the fact I'm a collector, not of bows or knives or anything like that but a collector of sentiments.
I thought it would be awsome to have a bow of any sort from another TG bowyer and a great opportunity for some of us to share our work with the ones who would most appreciate what we put into it, Our heart and alot of blood, sweat, and tears. I learned most all I know here and learn everyday.
On a different note I did some wood swapping with Keenan at the TN Classic this weekend and now I really am having a hard time deciding which way to go on my swap bow But I think I am going the route I planned and will get started tommarrow and get her on the tree. I'll have pics I promise.
Stiks
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After many failed attempts to get my tradebow going I've finally made some progress :)
I started with some bamboo flooring
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3823.jpg)
And a piece of african walnut
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3826.jpg)
I then turned the boo into tapered lams using my own jig
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3824.jpg)
Till they bend nicely
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3825.jpg)
Once I had all the pieces ready I prepared my form for action
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3831.jpg)
etc etc etc :)
3 days later
A first look...some tillering still needed, but already she casts a fast arrow
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/IMG_3836.jpg)
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Off course...when I say fast arrow I mean NOTHING Like the numbers Kenny posted :(
Geez...and on top of it his bow is that goodlooking too!
Who do I have to bribe to have my name "drawn" by Kenny next year? :D
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Johan, your creation doesn't look so shabby to me. Your secret recipient will be lucky as well as happy.
;)
Stan
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Johan, not to shabby at all, looks like a keeper to me......Dan
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Johan, I think you have a good un goin there!!
My numbers wouldn't look so good with fingers and my 12 gpp huntin arras, only a way to compare to the bow before! :archer2:
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K30bowfisher That is going to be a nice looking bow, you know ****** is going to just love it.
Balding Kansan everone loves then wave snaky bows cant wait to see it finished
Johan van Niekerk you got a good one going too I bet its going to hold its owen against any bow made during this swap.
Some really good looking bows in the works, I know there is a lot of hoping going on now, by the ones that have not received their bows.
Can't wait to see all theses finished and completed.
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What are the humps on the bely of the bow?
Pete
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Thanks for the encouragement everyone :)
The "bumps" on the belly are pieces of tape and paper. Because my bows are reflex-deflex I find it difficult to get the design onto the bow itself. So I tend to draw out my design on paper and then stick it to the bow. I also leave it stuck there right until I'm ready to start painting :)
It reduces a lot of trial and error in the tiller process.
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Had a package from 3rivers on the front porch when I got home from my second job tonight. Tomorrow after school I'll get started on so-n-so's bow. Shouldn't be long before I post some pics. Haven't completely decided on a style yet but I do have some ideas.
Stan
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Here's the finished pictures of my trade bow. I've been shooting it a bunch and like the way it feels. I wrapped the end of the kerf cut in the tips just for added security. I've never had one give, but a good solid wrap is cheap insurance. You can catch a glimpse of that plug patch in some of the photos, which still reminds me of a "beauty mark." Anyway, I hope the new owner likes it; it should ship out next week.
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4916.jpg)
(http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae321/isaacscr/2011%20TG%20Trade%20Bow/HPIM4915.jpg)
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Absolutely beautiful, 4est! Terrific lines and profile.
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Stan
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beautiful job 4est!
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Great looking bow 4est! Love the full draw pic.
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Great looking bow, I know ***** is just going to love the bow. Let me know if you ship it.
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man ya'll are building some great bows !!! 4est thats a stunning bow you got there they should be happy with it
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Man them some slick bows guys. I got to put some heat on mine today, I prolly wont mess with it much tomorrow but maybe I can get some pics up. Ha after the bow cooled it smelled like Watermelon....I'll pull the clamps off tomorrow and see what happens.
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She's a classic, 4est! Well done...as always!
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Well here she is 66" NTN right now gonna see how it goes might be 64 when I get done....Hackberry.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_2818Medium.jpg)
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you guys are lookin great. i picked my osage out of the firewood pile at the inlaws , along with all the locust i cut and have been waiting to dry , along with a couple other sticks i picked up. all of them had little grey spots except the osage. hopefully its ok.
got a bunch of stuff organized in the garage and i have to setup a tree , but i guess somewhere to shave is first off.
-hov
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Texan I finished up a mollie a while back from hackberry. It responded pretty well to heat and turned out to be fine bow.
I took my swap bow off the caul yesterday and letting rehydrate a bit probably start tillering in next weekend.
Stiks
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Yew, Kris? d;^)
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Got my glue up in process right now, hopefully I will be tillering by the weekend.
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No yew Pat. A wise ol' feller told me to stick with what I was used to working. LOL :D
It will be an osage deflex/reflex, one knot near the handle goes all the way through and looks like the state of IN on the backnof the bow. I found it very fitting for the swap.
I am working on some yew that I got from Keenan and will have to build a successful yew bow before I do one for a swap. Blew up two and they say the third time is charm. We'll see.
Stiks
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Wow 4est. If your person doesn't like anything about that bow he/she can certainly forward it to me. I'll even pay shipping!
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Was he sober Kris? Looking forward to seeing what ya got going!
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He looked sober as fer as I could tell :bigsmyl: .
I'm looking forward to the PA swap next year Pat. between the TG bow swap and PA surely I'll have a blast next year too.
This bow swap thing turned out to be pretty awsome I reckon. I wonder if we'll break 100 entries. I know I sure do owe Kelly bigtime. I know how much work it is keeping track of everybody's bows.
Hat's off to you Kelly!
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Diddo, Kris. Thanks to Kelly for his work in the bow swap, and more importantly for his work and sacrifice in serving our country. I have nothing more to offer than my heartfelt thanks to him and all of our other service men and women past and present. :thumbsup: :clapper:
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x2.
has kel checked in lately?
-hov
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4est, I'll second that also....Dan
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Oh Kris,
Letting do it is thanks enough. I have enjoyed it and it gave me someting to do. Next I am looking foward to next year so I can join in the fun of building, and some of the admin stuff too.
Now lets see some bows. There is one I have not seen any PIC of yet.
Happy building,
Kelly
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Mine is in progress, taking pics just not ready to post them yet but soon.
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Glued a hickory backing on my osage board stave last weekend. The glue lines were awful so I had to seperate the two pieces. Tried heating it in the hot box but the Titebond III didn't release. Even after sitting in 180 degree temps.
Yester day I sanded the two pieces to get rid of the glue... Saturday I'll start over.
:banghead:
Stan
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I'm having juniper Wows agian! I have been slowly shaping a juniper stave down and I came acrossed a hidden limb near one of the tips. I thought I could work around it . It just went through alot more of the limb than I thought leaving me with just a bunch of sap wood and no hope for a bow. :mad:
********* may end up with a board bow after all,I guess I will have to do the best I can.
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I have been following though I havent started building yet. Should have the glass bow I am doing for a friend done this weekend (except for spraying) and then its on to this BBI.
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Sigh, classes are finished and the first thing I do is ruin the glue up. I was having trouble getting a triple lam to glue up right, so I decided to break it into two parts.. Well when I glued up the belly and core I forgot to trim the core to the same profile and my tubes bowed the lam. Gonna have to destroy the core to get back to where I need to be, made them too thin to be recoverable. Hope everyone else is having better luck this week.
Adam
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wow some funny mojo creepin around eh.
keep at it guys , you all know the saying.
i really am going to get some pictures tomorrow. im starting a new job monday , and its going to take up a LOT of my time. its not a bad thing , but i want to at least get ** ** * * * ** ** ***** ** ** * * ** * *** ** ** *** * ** ** 's bow roughed out and a little closer to floor tiller than its current status; skinned log...
The wife is off and so am i , so while the little one is down tomorrow im going to try to figure a way to work this damned thing. i have an old dresser , and i may try kelly's trick with the ratchet strap , but i'll have to find one.
i wont get paid for two weeks , but when i do , you better believe im going and getting a 2x12 and making a horse.
i cant wait to see what this ends up lookin like. i still havent seen kelly check in , has anyone heard from him lately?
-hov
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plz delete.
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got out today and worked the collection a bit to see where it all stands.
arrows are on short order. the dowel arrows are holding up great , but the craft store fletching is kicking the bucket slowly. i came across some of what looks like goose , and i think i may still owe you money whoever sent them to me. i didnt even realize i had them , please pm me asap and i can get the money order moving to you shortly.
anyways , the collection includes:
Hickory Molle (iirc its hick) Swap Bow given by ken75. Its got a snake backing , and its done all black. it has a little bit of follow once its been shot a little , but it shoots like a dream. I made up a black b50 double flemish for it , served it with some really slick braid , and used part of the red that ken had on it , for a nocking point. i tried my best to tie one thats movable , but its not. heres a couple shots.
heres the molle. not sure what snakeskin , but shes pretty.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170436.jpg)
heres the group. probably 10 yards. the bottom right hit the nock thats broken now.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170444.jpg)
Natural Boo / hard maple / oak r/d given to me out of the blue by a very generous member. along with a hickory backing i have been waiting for the perfect use for.pics...an group. its a thumper. i feel like the ork in lord of the rings.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170439.jpg)
then theres my old stickbow made from a white oak 1x2 and compared to the beauty of the others , this is not too far from 1x2. im proud of it , and it is the most forgiving of all of them. i can shoot 3 under or split , and it can be drawn to 36" (and has been regularly) . i dont shoot it , but its 45# @ 29" (me stretching out) , 55# at 31" , and around 64 at 36. according to my 8.50 wally world scale. anyways , im jawflappin and this one doesnt even really matter to the swap...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170442.jpg)
heres the short range in the new house. i was standing up against my wife's work car...a couple strays , going to make a proper target and frame as soon as management approves the funding...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170443.jpg)
so thats my update for spring. i need to clean and store some things to optimize my space , cause i have to have the shop ready for automotive and other jobs. hard line air , 220/110amp service with sub breaker all to come. i hate electrons.
worked on the osage a little bit ago , and im going to be going kind of deep to get to a thicker ring , and its going to exhaust me...lol..
ill get some pics as soon as i get some logs from my in-laws to make into at least a base to put the osage onto... i gotta figure out a way to work it...
feels awesome to be making something with my hands again. anyone else enjoying the vitamin O?
-hov
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Sorry for my non-participation so far but, I still plan to meet the deadline.
I'll use this picture for my excuse as it identifies problems in my manipulation of draw knives and scrappers.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Shavers%20Fork%20Hike%20In%20West%20fork%20Trail%20Spur%20%20%202011/ShaversFork5-2011140.jpg)
I am really concentrating on my rehab so I can get back to building again.
Good natural foods
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Spring water
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Exercise
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Shavers%20Fork%20Hike%20In%20West%20fork%20Trail%20Spur%20%20%202011/ShaversFork5-201188.jpg)
And relaxation
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/Shavers%20Fork%20Hike%20In%20West%20fork%20Trail%20Spur%20%20%202011/ShaversFork5-201145.jpg)
One last round of therapy at the end of this month and I should be good to complete a bow in June for the trade on the 4th of July...
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Dang Joe sorry to see that, I'm guessing carpal tunnel syndrome? God speed and heal fast bro.
I was wondering about ya the other day and realized I hadn't seen Osagetree around these parts for a bit.
Beautiful pics, looks like someplace I could disappear into and never come back. :thumbsup: :campfire:
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Well my swap bow is done, 66" BBO 58# @ 29.5.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6581.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6582.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6577.jpg)
Had to have my buddy pull her back.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6585.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6583.jpg)
VIDEO AT LINK BELOW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gSTj8ITMIs
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Nice looking stick Roy.
Joe I was wondering where you was bud. I figured you had some stuff going on. Did you cut yourself or have to have surgery.
Stiks
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Roy,
That is one fine looking bow. You guys that can build these all wood bows are magicians. The tiller on that bow looks amazing. That one is going to put a big smile on someone's face.
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Joe sorry to see that.I had a similar problem last year.had to get the ligements reattached in LT thumb.Hope you get healed up soon.Roy beautiful job!
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Thanks, I added a video of it above also.
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looks great roy. as always.
o.t. : i was thinking carpal tunnel too , hope the sunshine is helping your spirit stay well...
got out today for about 6 hours (off an on but mostly on) . got the osage down about 8 rings total , going to go down another 1 at least to get to my desired back , and see what the deity's will allow...
couple pics of the day.
heres what we sort of started with. a small crack at the smaller end is where i started. turned out it only went about 2" anyways , but the thicker rings were a little deep. almost 3/4" down.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170471.jpg)
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170473.jpg)
this is after a little work. you can see the deep gash in the right corner closest to the lens , this is where the crack was. i started here , and its still a little rough ,but the ring i want is close , and the rest of it is another 1-2 rings above my safety ring.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170477.jpg)
a little farther along iirc..
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170478.jpg)
and almost done for the day...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170479.jpg)
figured out a way to work it for now. not sure what i am going to do. might have to just wait a little bit and get a vice...or make a horse...not sure which yet , as i dont have a solid bench so far...yet...
-hov
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Joe, looks like you're healing nicely and taking good care of yourself. Glad to hear you're doing well.
Roy, that's a fine looking bow, someone's gonna be mighty happy when they find that at their door.....Dan
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Man, Joe, hate to see that! Hope you're doing okay. Take care.
Roy, that is one beautiful bow. Enjoyed the video also. How do you get the backing shaped? I've not seen anyone do that. (Maybe I haven't been paying attention...)
Saturday I re-glued the hickory on to the osage. Used more clamps and glue than I did during the first glue up. This afternoon I glued on an osage handle riser. Tomorrow I'll try to glue on tip overlays.
What should I use to glue phenolic on the tips? I have Titebond, epoxy, super glue, and smooth on. Which do you guys suggest?
:help:
Stan
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im betting everyone will say smooth on. i wouldnt be afraid to try some good CA , but if i had smooth on , id go with that.
-hov
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Wow Roy that's a good looking bow. Hova..Nice piece of wood you got and I bet it's hard to work without a vice. Joe I think I might have something like that going on with my left elbow it bothers me more at night tho when I'm trying to sleep. Anyways I got a bit more done to mine today.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_2834Large.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_2835Large.jpg)
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Thanks, hova. By the way, a shaving horse isn't hard to build. I built mine for about $34.
Nice job, West Tex.
Stan
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Thanks for the comments. I should have mentioned it was wrist fusion due to keinbocks disease.
Lots of nice work being done here by all for the swap. Kudo's to all!
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Smooth ON glue Red Hill..
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Nice job Roybert, not too shabby for a Yankee. :goldtooth:
I watched the video yesterday and that bow really hammers an arra fellas! I think Roybert done went and out did himself on this stick!
BTW- What did you use for stain on the boo?
I like it.
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Three Rivers Walnut Stain, tongue oil finish.
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i SHIPPED MY TRADE TODAY, THE VICTIM SHOULD GET IT ON wED.!
dANG CAP LOCK!
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I can't wait to get that bow Kenny!!!! Just kidding/dreaming fellas!
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Sorry pard, it goes to *** ******** ** ****** :D
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red : i plan on making either a shaving horse or some kind of inexpensive bench.
its not that bad without a vice. you just have to figure out a way to immobilizr the wood.
the jeep worked great for this , but was really irritating to adjust my wood...
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Great looking bows you ll are building.
Back on the home front from the Tenn. Classic. Had a great time and got to meet some great people. Came home with a truck load of that yellow wood to try as well as some hickory,ironwood, and a few others that I don't recognize. Thanks to all of you who traded and gifted me with the goods.
Kris sure was nice to meet up with you and your wife. Thanks again for the help with everything.
Got to show Kris the bow trade progress. I took it along, thinking I might get a chance to work on it, but you know how that goes. Just a few more pounds to drop and then to get her dressed up and shipped out. :bigsmyl:
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Originally posted by kennym:
Sorry pard, it goes to *** ******** ** ****** :D
Ok, here goes...
I'd like "C", "S", "R", "T", and "L" Pat.
Ok, how about a vowel?
Ummmmm let's go with "E" partner.
Ok, let's look at the board.
:smileystooges:
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Well looking good all
nice bow roy
Joe those morrels are a great find, missing that season, Did that for the first time last year and found over a 100 thru the season.
I am traking 2 bows shipped and on waiting to be shipped.
looking good all
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Finally I was able to work a bit on my bow. It's glued up and curing, so tomorrow we'll see some new bow rise out of the form...
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Andy
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Thanks, guys. I'll get the smooth on mixed tomorrow. Had to make a mad dash to Little Rock. Father-in-law went to the Heart Hospital.
Stan
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Originally posted by fish n chicks:
Originally posted by kennym:
Sorry pard, it goes to *** ******** ** ****** :D
Ok, here goes...
I'd like "C", "S", "R", "T", and "L" Pat.
Ok, how about a vowel?
Ummmmm let's go with "E" partner.
Ok, let's look at the board.
:smileystooges: [/b]
Hey, there is no * , * ,* or * in his/her name! :bigsmyl:
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Kenny... you're having too much fun! :biglaugh:
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I know Cap'n, I just can't help myself! :goldtooth: :laughing:
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If it wasn't fun we wouldn't be doing it!
Gotta fix a splinter and back my bow, but I think she'll be a pretty sweet shooter. It's tough to shoot a wrong shelf bow when you're a righty, but the few I sent to the target were heavy thumpers and crazily where my dominant eye was looking.
Hopefully soon she'll be a full time shooter. Keep em coming gang.
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That right there is what it all about Dick, keep poring on the suspense Kenny these guys around here feed off of it :D Well at least I do LOL
Stiks
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Only a few hours and ** ******** will have it!! :bigsmyl:
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Kenny you keep changing the amount of *'s each time you post. It makes it very difficult to investigate!! :)
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KANSAN thats the point brother. * will love it just as much as ** ***** * * * * ** *** ** * *** * ** * will. judging by the last one , im looking for a member name "an a_ _ _ _ _ e "
...thats not even right kenny....
but seriously , i think kenny is the like the untold star of the swap. everyone is more than happy with what they get , but everyone joins in hopes they get kenny...
-hov
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Mailed my BBO bow out today, I'll bet ole KennyM is gonna love shooten a real bow..
Oop's.. How do ya delete this post guys? :)
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Took her out of the form today, and I'm happy with the zebrano lams, they look very nice. I hope ******* ***** loves them... ha ha
That's what I got so far...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/IMG_0816.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/IMG_0815.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/IMG_0818.jpg)
Hope I can work a bit on the tiller and the riser this weekend.
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Andy
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Wow swiss that is going to be a great looking bow. Roy now with 3 bows shipped I bet folks are getting real excited. I Know ********, ***** **** and ****************** are going to love their new bows. Dont forget to post when you get them.
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Hey Kelly, Is one of those Sticks coming my way :D You can just PM me. I won't tell LOL
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Oh yeah forgot to mention that I'm getting ready to put horn bellies on my R/D osage bow and I should be shipping in about the middle of June.
Stiks
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Very nice Swiss
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Very pretty wood there Swiss, can't wait to see the finished product!
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I just recived one of two packages from my bowyer and I'm very excited! I am so honored to be reciving a bow from such a great bowyer. This package had a video and a stringer in it, when the bow arrives I will post some pic's. I'll keep it a secert who built the bow until the bow arrives but he is the one that inspired me to build all wood bows.
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Roy, I would really love a bbo!! Tried a trilam bbo last year and managed to bomb out with it! Didn't grind the boo thin enuff,and broke the osage! (I think)
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Make ya a deal Kenny, I'll make you a BBO, you make me a glass bow.. Roy
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I got so excited today when my wife told me there was a package at my door. I came home from work during lunch even... only to find out it was a friend of ours leaving some freshly baked banana bread. Good, but not as good as I expected
The suspense is killing me!
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Goose, I feel your pain. Spent today cutting down some dead trees and cleaning out the shop and was stopped multiple times. They all showed up, UPS, Fedex(twice), and the post man all with boxes, and none of them contained a bow. So the wait continues. The upside is that one of the boxes had all my hardware for my thickness sander build (will post a build-along when its done)
Adam
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Thanks for the advice, guys. Mixed up the smooth on and got the phenolic clamped on and under lights now.
Working on a hickory backed osage for *****.
Just hope this bow is nearly as nice lookin' as what's bein' put out by ya'll.
:archer2:
Stan
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well now things are heating up here and some more bows getting built. ok I dont want to add too much pressure but yall know that it is almost JUNE already. WoW time flies when you are having fun.
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kelly dont remind me!
spent some time out there yesterday hacking away another 4 or 5 rings. i thought i was within 2 of my target , but i forgot i was going down another 2 to get to an even thickness ring. by the time i get her down to a ring , ill be muscled enough to put some temp nocks on and string her.
thought i had a bench rigged up , but the trunk i was sitting on collapsed. going to get ahold of my father in law to see if he still has the tree that fell last storm. figure ill but some 6' pieces and rough em down to 2" or 3" slabs , and make a shaving horse from that.
nothin like FREE!
-hov
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I had an alignment problem I had to work through, but it is nice and straight now. :) Time to bring it down to the proper thickness and start tillering! This month has been crazy with various family members traveling (wife is on a "work related" cruise in the Bahamas right now...). Hopefully I will get some quality time in the shop soon!
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Sorry, I haven't been posting on my progress on my swap bow. Have been really busy with work etc. ready to begin the final sanding and put finish on it. Should have it ready to ship in a week or so.
(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/jess_stuart/101_5448.jpg)
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had to tweak tiller a bit so now I have to resand and finish. I'll ship next week. Mailed out a bow today and felt bad about not sending off two. What a slacker I am!
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Jess, Like the lines on that one, looks fast....Dan
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Beautiful bow Jess!I still love mine!I noticed you changed your design.The limbs are on the oppisit side of the riser now.Any chance of seeing a picture of it strung after you get a finish on it? ******* *** is going to be one happy camper!
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Jess, that's a great looking bow!!!!!!!
Dewayne
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Looking good Jess!
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Wow things are looking good. If you aren't looking for a package this week then you must be dead. Those bows look great. I really need to pull a couple of digits out and get working on my bow. Got a couple in th eworks but not sure what will be the swap bow yet. The best one icome up with will be headed off to ???
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Scott didn't really change my design just a different one, I have one with the belly mounted limbs in the works also. Glad to hear you still like yours, I will get a strung pic up soon.
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razor : im not lookin for a package cause my builder was on top of things. he sent me two gorgeous bows before i even had an idea...
-hov
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The mail lady pulled up the drive way the other day and all she had was some tanning supplies.
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Really nice lookin' bow, Jess.
Stan
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There are some quality bows showing up here lately. Anyone would be happy with any of these bows.
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Nice looking bow Jess. I know ***** will love it.
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Jess, that bow of yours looks very nice. Fantastic job !
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Andy
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Hmmmm, tracking says my trade was delivered 2 days ago.
It may have the poor victim down.... :D
C'mon *** ******* * ** ****, tell us if ya like it! :archer2:
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Yeah - Who got that beauty Kenny built? On my drive home from work Wednesday evening I kept thinking...maybe...maybe...maybe....
Maybe whoever got it is now having too much fun to sit on their duff and type on a silly computer.
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Maybe whoever got it is on vacation and the bow is sitting on the porch. Give us the address Kenny and someone can go look.
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Ummm,
****** *** ****
*** * ****** ******* ****
*******, ** *****
That help? :bigsmyl:
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im sitting here , and the package is most certainly not at
****** *** ****
*** * ****** ******* ****
*******, ** *****
mapquest actually tried to give me directions...
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It may be wishful thinking, but when I went to get my mail today, there was a note from the mail lady to check the front office (apartment living stinks). The front office is closed until tomorrow afternoon (TALK ABOUT SUSPENSE!) Now, neither my wife or I have ordered anything so i'm thinking it may be a bow!!!!!! Maybe kenny's? I don't know. I can guarantee you I won't sleep very well tonight!!!!
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Kenny mentioned to me how many miles his bow had to travel. Now, combining that information with the number of *****'s in various names, if I thought about it a little, I could probably make a pretty good guess as to where bow the will end up and when it will arrive. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time. Gotta go put the third coat of finish on a bow I'm finishing up....
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Dick, you are such a tease!
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Stirrin the pot , Cap'n? :biglaugh:
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Hey... look who I learned from! ;)
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Kenny, your bow arrived two days ago, I don't like it and I shipped it back to ya.
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Holy cow Roy! I'm sorry.... :goldtooth:
I thought I was gonna have to hunt with an old one this year!
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Well what really ticked me off was you had your name on it instead of mine. :biglaugh:
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I came home for lunch yesterday to find a long package. 4est-trekker build amazing bow for me. I feel so honored to shoot one of his bows. Of course my wife might not like that I gained one more hobby after reading his board bow build along. It came with a well put together video on how to string it with a double nock. Here is a couple of pics. (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0329.jpg)
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(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0333.jpg)
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A little character. (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0337.jpg)
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Glad you like it, Jimmy! I sure hope it shoots well for you. I had a good time making it for you. Thanks for posting :)
Regards,
Curt
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I haven't shoot it yet I've been slowly working it back to my draw length. It came in 40@28" which couldn't make me more happy because I don't have anything in that pound range. Thanks again for you effort to craft shutch a nice bow.
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I haven't shoot it yet I've been slowly working it back to my draw length. It came in 40@28" which couldn't make me more happy because I don't have anything in that pound range. Thanks again for you effort to craft shutch a nice bow.
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Now that's pretty! I had an ELB with the double stringing nock, an outstanding idea.
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thats pretty cool 4est. your bows are always classy and have simple but elegant lines.
i like your tips!
lol...
-hov
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Originally posted by Balding Kansan:
I can't wait to get that bow Kenny!!!! Just kidding/dreaming fellas!
I should go buy a lotto ticket!!! I was just playing around with my comment above. So there story goes....I knew I had a package waiting for me at the front office that I needed to pick up today. I had a feeling it was a swap bow. Long story short the office closes at 5:00 and I got there right as the lady was locking the door. With a little of my "charm" I talked/begged/pleaded her to let me get my package. The first thing I noticed was the return address was a feller named Kenny from those Missouri parts. Now I about had a stroke. After I rounded up my impact drill to get the lid off and spent about 30 minutes unwrapping the shrink wrap I finally got to hold her (my wife gave me that look like, "you don't hold me like that"). So anyways....I know everyone wants pics but I'm kind of in a hurry (moms 50th b-day party) and I refuse to rush the pictures on this bow and sell it short. She's beautiful. Maybe Kenny can help me out with the wood types? Thanks again Kenny. Everyone always posts what a stand out/up guy you are. Take care.
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Here ya go buddy! Glad you like her!
5*# @ 2*" 64" D/R
Thats 53@29 64" d/r
Bubinbga riser with sapele I-beam and maple accents. Figured cherry veneers and Natural A-boo cores.
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Balding - Congrats on receiving that fine bow fom Kenny. You know you are the envy of a lot of folks around here now, so you better post some full draw pics so we can all share in your enjoyment.
twitchstick - Congrats to you too. That is also a fine looking bow. Forgive my ignorance, but what does having a double nock do for you and do you string it any differently than a typical bow with single nocks? There must be something to it if 4est also sent a video.
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Twitch, 4est done you proud, boy! Nice lookin' bow.
Kansan, hope your mom has a great b'day, but hurry up with the pics.
Stan
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Kansan, Glad you got a sweet stick in the swap after waiting so long last year.
Twitch you got you hands on a fine stick as well. 4est put together the board bow buildalong and that is what got me into this fine craft.
Stiks
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My horn will be here monday and I will be prepping it to go on my swap bow after I get back from Hickory.
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My wife called me this afternoon, I was working, to Ask me what I had bought now. A long tube came in the mail from someone in PA. I was so excited, longest day at work Ive had in a long while. I get home to find a beautiful BBO made by Roy in PA. Yes Roy, I am smiling big. This bow is very nicely made it has nice graceful lines. It also is a shooter. It launches a 500gr aluminum arrow with authority. Here are a couple of photos to make you all even more jealous.
Roy you are a skilled bowyer, thank you very much for the sweet shooter you built for me, it fits me perfectly!
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/b4c7a143.jpg)
Strung Profile
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/41b43a2f.jpg)
Full Draw, oh yeah!
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/abfed76e.jpg)
1st 5 arrows at 15 yards, this bow is a shooter!
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/45a2dd9b.jpg)
thanks again Roy, I couldn't be happier.
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LOL, Your so welcome Lane.. Roy
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Everyone Great looking bows. There sure are tallented bowyers and lucky recepients on this trade. K30 I did that once put a target in front of garage door,got so excited about a great bow and on the sixth shot put a hole in the garage door. :bigsmyl: If all goes as planned I should have my trade bow in the mail next week. Hope that "The or He or She or It" gets it in good shape never know about the shipping
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I've found the best way to ship a bow is in plastic pipe with wooden end plugs screwed into the ends of the pipe. And insurance is dirt cheap, like about 2 bucks for 200 worth of insurance.
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Roy, Kenny, and Curt, those are some fine looking bows. You all done good…real good.
Here is the update my trade bow. Unfortunately, with a new job and a 140-mile commute each way, I ran out of time to complete a third bow before St Jude’s. I applied the first three coats of finish last weekend, did all the lettering yesterday, and am applying the finishing coats today. With any luck, **** *********’s bow will ship out later this week. Later today I will post some pictures of **** *********’s bow, the bow going to St. Jude’s, and a few others that are being finished at the same time.
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Wow! Starting to look like Christmas morning... lots of great packages being opened :) :) :)
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Wow 3 more great looking bows down.
I am not so sure Roy made that bow there is no crayon drawings on it.
Great job on all of those bows.
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Great looking bow, Lane! All these beautiful bows! Its intimidating to think that ******** will have to settle with something from me. LOL!
Gorgeous bows, guys.
:clapper: Stan
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i had a chance to work on it. i havent been having as many pipes , so i havent been doing a whole lot on the bow. im down almost to 2+rings above my target , gotta work on a couple knots/knees areas...
anyone know somewhere to get gooseneck scrapers? ouldnt i just make a couple arches on the scraper i have?
-hov
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I guess I could come help ya scrape hova... don't know what's so amazing with my neck though. :biglaugh:
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Oh, the humor on here!! :smileystooges: (bald guy in the middle is me!)
Spent about 6 hours rasping on my trade bow today. Worked it close to final profile, squared up the handle area, and used a medium grit sandpaper to smooth up everything.
Its a hickory backed osage board bow. Need to reduce limb thickness to bring down weight to the desired poundage for ******.
I'm learning quite a bit while working on this bow. So far everything has been done with hand tools. Farrier rasp, 4 way rasp, fine file, knife, and sweat!
Deliberating on weither I should cut in an arrow shelf or not. What do you think, ******? Any preference? :bigsmyl:
Stan
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** **********, ****** *** ** ****!
I like typin that way, easy with only one finger even! :bigsmyl:
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stan, no shelf. I have regretted everyshelf I've made. That's just me though some like em.
I'm shipping mine tuesday!
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lol. sounds good.
just re-read some of this , and i wonder if there isnt a post carrier meeting going on where these guys are like , ok...something is going on here...
think about it. all of us im sure get a percentage of things online or shipped to them , so we have random stuff brought to the house all the time from all over the country . now all of a sudden you got a bow coming in or going out , then you got a different odd package coming or going.
my mailman thinks im insane. 70% of my deliveries are from hong kong...
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Some lucky guys and pretty bows being built...Well I got to shoot about 50 shots through mine Friday evening and Saturday. Got it all slicked up and put a couple coats of sealer on it last night and thought I'd get to do more today but got called out at work.
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"no shelf. I have regretted everyshelf I've made. That's just me though some like em." DVSHunter
Yay! Someone besides me... I finished a new one for myself yesterday and when I started on the riser, just kept going, couldn't bring myself to put a shelf on it. Can't say I've regretted the ones I've done, but I sure do like shooting without.
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Originally posted by Balding Kansan:
(my wife gave me that look like, "you don't hold me like that")
:laughing: :dunno:
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dick, I hear you. I only put them on for special cases.
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If it holds together long enough for finish and some more shooting here is my trade bow for...someone.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/tradgang%20tradebow%202011/013.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/tradgang%20tradebow%202011/001.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/tradgang%20tradebow%202011/003.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/tradgang%20tradebow%202011/008.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/longbowhntr/tradgang%20tradebow%202011/011.jpg)
It still needs a little more sanding and finish and alot more shooting before its ready to send off. Hope it stays together :pray: :pray:
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I know that feeling longbowhntr. I just had my 4th in a row pop on me. Now it feels like every time I draw the string while tillering my heart skips a beat.
She is a beauty btw. Great work on that one.
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nice looking bow longbowhntr.
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Nice selfbow, longbow. Keeping fingers crossed!
OK, guys, no shelf. Hope ****** likes that idea. :thumbsup:
Yesterday I got the tips moving about 4 inches with a long string. Using the gizmo helped get the limbs bending pretty evenly.
Now I need to make a string, or I could use one from one of my other attempts, and get started tillering in earnest.
I'll try to get pics up in a day or two.
Stan
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im headed out there right now while the baby is sleeping. i havent had much time lately , and its going to get even tighter with a different new job... 9-6 mon-sat. nothin beats flat rate wrenchin...
lbh : that bow is very nice. im sure * will love it , and i wouldnt worry about it going. it looks plenty beefy.
gonna go scrape some osage. i thought i was baad , cause i was drawknifing through all those layers , now its taking me forever to get down through 2 layers...ill get some pics in...
-hov
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Shaped the limbs today. Maybe I can string her up tomorrow.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/IMG_0835.jpg)
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Sorry for the blurry pics, but you get an idea how it looks. Unfortunately I'm going to be away the next four days, so no more work done this week... :-(
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Andy
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That is purty wood Swiss! :)
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Dang Swiss, be real nice if ya wuz sending that to some ole boy in SW Pa:) :bigsmyl:
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Looking great!Love to see pics!
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Nice bow Andres, I got your trade bow last year and this looks as nice.
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Sigh, all you guys with your pretty bows are getting to me. Ended up scrapping another bow, glue up wasn't to standard. Although my standards are higher as it wont be my bow, its scrap all the same. Gotta wait to finish the thickness sander as I'm out of backings. Also ran out of the core wood I was using, so gonna give canarywood a shot.. its a bit of an experiment ***** hope you'll like it!
Adam
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Well flooding and raining like crazy here is slowing things up but we just finished track season so now my time after school is considerably more free. Will be marking and cutting bamboo this week and getting other pieces together to make a run at this boo backed ipe glue up this weekend. I will DEFINITELY post pics along the way on this one.
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keep at it fellers. tick tock...
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Some more great looking bows coming together! Got my tade bow shot in a little more today. Little more touch up sanding, finish and handle wrap and then look up the adress for ****** ****** ****** :bigsmyl: I think this one will work out just fine for what *** **** wanted! :archer2:
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Keenan,
You know we like teaser PICS.
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Kelly I got to see Keenans bow he's building and it is gonna be SWEEEEET! Good thing I can keep a secret LOL
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Keenan, I'll just PM you my address if it will save you some time looking it up.
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:bigsmyl:
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finally got mine shipped out today eta saturday.
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Keenan, I am moving this weekend, but just in case, I sent Kelly my new address to forward on to you. :D
With a move happening this weekend, I got busy last Sunday and put the finish on some of the bows I built during last winter's bow building season. This is my takedown spray booth; it assembles with eight screws and works great.
One of the bows will be my trade bow.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/BOWFINISHED5-22184.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/BOWFINISHED5-22260.jpg)
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Very nice bows and spray booth Walt. You have more pictures of it and a little advice on how ya made it?
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hey dvs david how d you guys come thru those tornados stevie tell me it went outside marshall but was headed to springfield up date us finnaly done with work got my swap bows about half done brock
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brock_ I made it out with just a little hail damage. Mojam site should be fine, maybe a limb or two here or there.
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Dvs I marked you as shipped
Walt SM sent to ****** with your new address. And I know *********** would be proud to own any of them bows.
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Walt - That looks like a bow-greenhouse and they just magically grow in there. You can send me any one of those beauties ;)
Seriously though - excellent work and great idea for the spray booth.
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All I can saw is Wow Walt! I love those smoke grey ones with the finger grooves wrapped around the riser, that's awesome. They all look magnificent though, if a guy could chose only one it would probably have to be a number drawn out of a hat? Cause they are all winners. :thumbsup:
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Roy, I got tired of dust specks and little insects getting on my finished bows while they were drying, and ended up cleaning the mechanical room good enough to allow a dust free finish. However, there was not enough space or airflow to use it for spraying. This booth solved most of problems but I need to build a dust proof area to hang other bows while spraying to prevent any chance of over spray.
I haven’t taken many other pictures but it is a simple design. It has four walls and a roof made of 1x2”s lap jointed for stability. The roof and two corners are hinged so for easy assembly. It is wrapped with thin painter plastic, which is taped onto the frame with either making or duct tape, for easy replacement. The plastic gets holes but the masking tape easily repairs them. Changing the plastic takes about ten minutes. The framing holds standard air filters at both ends, which you can buy at any hardware store (as you can see mine needs cleaning/replacing). I already had a box fan with a spark proof motor from some previous building projects that sits on a bench next to the filter to create airflow. I put a painter tarp on the floor then erect the booth on it. The dimensions are 4’ x 8’ and 7’ tall. I had all the materials lying around after building my house except the air filters and hinges. The most expensive item would be the fan if you had to buy all the materials.
If I build another one it will be 8’x8’ so there is enough room to spray larger pieces of furniture and plastic off an area for several bows without worrying about the over spray.
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Walt if you drew my name I sure am a sucker for copperheads! :bigsmyl:
Goodlooking sticks but that copperhead skinned bow is the best looking for sure. I think a guy could wrap a turd in copperheads skins and make it look good.
Stiks
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Wow Walt those all look like dandies. I m not moving but can send you my adress anyway :bigsmyl:
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Just got back from a 4 day bear trip in Prince William Sound with several boy scouts (got one nice black bear and a bunch of shrimp...!). Time to get serious about the tillering I guess! :)
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Walt you are a craftsman for sure..
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Walt, those are some awesome looking bows. Great job !
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Andy
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Some fine looking bows getting made on here! I guess if I'm gonna get lucky and find a bow in the mail one day, I'll have to get busy on my end.
Finally got around to making some shavings today. This nice dry stave turned out to have lots of red color and not just a streak, but all through. Ring chase, lay out, band saw, sander to close dimensions and then onto a cull for the night. More soon...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/shaunw/s005.jpg)
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I got to shoot mine a bit today...Hackberry 64" NTN and has some zip to it. I shot 20 shots through it today and it shoots better than the last HBH I built and is a bit faster I think.
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This is right after I unstrung it after about 45 min. of messin with it.
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The shelf isn't cut in it's built up with leather.
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Wow! Some nice bows being put together.
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Hackberry makes a sweet shooter for sure. Nice looking bows this year!
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sweet bows guys!
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Great lookin' bow, WestTexan! Hackberry seems to be catching on quickly these days.
Still tillering my trade bow. Gonna be close on the weight, but I think it'll work out to the good.
Stan
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WestTexan: Outstanding bow!!!! :thumbsup: :clapper: That is sure to please anyone!
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I'm starting to get nervous here...gonna be away for 2 weeks and still need to paint my bow and send it... :)
Anyways..quick question:
How do you guys "package" the bows for postage?
I would hate to have it arrive in two pieces
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I use plastic pipe, 2 or 3 inch depending on the bow, pad the bow well, and make plugs out of wood that fit into the end of the pipe and run wood screws into the plugs. Insurance is dirt cheap through the mail.. I paid $2.75 for $200.00 worth of insurance.
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Johan,
For longbows I use triple wall drain pipe, there are a couple photos of it on page 38. For a recurve you might want to build a wooden box.
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Shaun looks like you have a good start.
West Texan that is wow, I know ********* can wait to get their hands on that bow.
I have 16 bows received and one in transit. Things should be heating up on here in the next few days.
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Ships out tomorrow.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v613/shaunw/s023.jpg)
Dressed it the way I like a hunting bow - beeswax over scraper finish with form follows function skived wrap handle and TS 1+ string. Lean on it to tell a story, whack weeds from the path, check muddy stream depth for wading, toss it out of a tree stand and fend off charging boars - all in a days work for a Taurus selfbow and still ready to make the shot.
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62.5" NTN, 3/16" positive tiller, here it is at my 27" but it tillered out a little farther for *******.
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Unbraced it lays as straight as an ... think I'll throw in the arrow so the new owner can shoot it right away.
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Beautifully tillered weapon there....simple yet deadly.
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now that is a nice looking shooter. I will mark you as shipped just let me know if you dont get it out for some reason.
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Great looking shooter,Excellent tiller and profile, Nice work!
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Great looking bow, Shawn!
Stan
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Shaun, Great tillerand a good shooter as well!!!!Dan
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Some good looking bows here guys. I've been thinking about changing my name to ***** or maybe even ****** *****. :)
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Nice job Shaun!
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well the 18th bow was received but i know of 1 more in the mail. The shaveings should be flying now. Lets see some bows.
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How many total are there Kelly? Was it 84 or so?
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I actually flung a few arrows through mine last night! A little shocky, but that should clean up with a proper brace height and shaping the nocks. Working on shaping the handle/grip now. I'm close on weight...may end up piking it a bit.
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Yesterday as I was leaving for work the mail lady dropped a shipping tube on my front porch. I ran inside and cut it open, inside was a beautiful osage selfbow from DVSHUNTER. I almost called in and took a vacation day so I could shoot it, but instead I went to work :knothead:
I have to tell you this is one sweet shooting bow. The grip fits perfectly and it shoots great, this was typical grouping at 15 yds. David, I cant say thank you enough, I am really happy with this bow and I cant wait to take it hunting.
(http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz110/greginmalad/tradgang%20bow/100_1132.jpg)
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That's very nice! David sure does built some nice ones doesn't he. Your a lucky guy Greg. :thumbsup:
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Semo I feel very lucky! I was going to explain that the target is standing on it's head because the mountains here are so steep, the elk grow upside down.
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Greg nice looking bow. Hope you give us some full draw pics.
Yep Roy we started with 84. So about 22% of the bows are done. It should be getting hopping on the site we have just over a month folks and mean just over. NOW GET TO SHAVING, GLUING, STAINING and MAILING THEM BOWS. LOL
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Nice, DVS. Enjoy the osage, Greg.
I shot my trade bow about fifty times this afternoon. The bow is pulling about 35 lbs at 24". Looking for 45 lbs at 28". Shot pretty well, fairly quiet even without string silencers.
A lot more shooting, sanding, and finishing coming up.
;) Stan
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HEY! Thats one of those rare upside down targets! :laughing: Very nice bow!
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glad you like it Greg. Now I get to sit back and watch for my new bow to find me.
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I finally got started on my bow a few days ago, I'm building one of my 54" recurves. Taking photos as I go and will post a few in a couple days
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nice work dvs!!!
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I looked at some of Lee's bows this weekend, Nice!!!
I bought a bamboo backed bamboo but if the auction wasn't going on I would've came home with two bows. Maybe Lee drew my name :bigsmyl:
I would be tickled with any of the bows built for sure.
Stiks
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Kris, lee would have drawn your name, had he not drawn mine. Kelly already told me who I had. Sorry to dissapoint you, but don't worry because Icantbuildabow drew yours, so I'm sure you'll be fine.
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That's great DVS :laughing: I just blew pop out of my nose!
I hope he's got the right addy and it don't end up at your house, LOL
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Shot 4 dozen arras out of my swap bow last night playing with brace height and got her dialed in pretty well. Gluing tip overlays on now. Hopefully another 2-3 hours with her and a Tru oil finish can start going on!
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just finished up my trade bow and ready to spray finish, Need to finish up a couple more before I spray though, maybe next week! Took pics.of most every step and will start posting a few pics. in a day or two
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Just got three new lams made up and ready for glue. Should start profiling and tillering on Monday as I have a wedding to attend this weekend..
Adam
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Looking great everyone !
I spent some time with my bow today, got it tillered to 28" Stiil need to do some tweaking with the tips, i have to say this is the most challenging stave i worked to date. Made from a Hickory sapling. I hope my receipent linkes it.
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow016.jpg)
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(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow017.jpg)
the back (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow021.jpg)
belly (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow024.jpg)
knot right by the handle, worked perfect.
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Here's the knot (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbow026.jpg)
Will post more when i get a finish on it !
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Can't wait to see this one done.
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Hey Dan Landis!
You make one TOUGH bow. My oldest daughter strung it backwards and shot some arrows when I was out of town.
The hackberry self-bow you sent me is no worse for wear (and she managed to miss the freezer!)
Did I tell you how awesome that bow is?
va
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VA, Glad it held together and she missed the freezer. It's nice that your daughter takes an interest in archery, definitely a good thing! Also, glad you like it......Dan
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I was working on my trade bow (third one to exact) and put her on the scale and she was under weight.
I thought something wasn't right so I checked my scale and it is about 9 pounds light. So my trade bow could be one of three that I thought came in to light.
Guess I need to buy a better bow scale, any suggestions.
Stiks
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va : the real question is , how was her grouping?
stiks , icantbuidabow is my other screen name. enjoy the bow i send your way
lol just kidding , in all seriousness , i need to get out there and put a whole day in tomorrow and really get down to buisiness. once i get down to my back ring , im thinking 1 1/2 " wide at the grip to some 3/8 tips , maybe a slight molle tip.
then again i do love those ones that just melt away in the woods.
hmmm...
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i keep checking in to see all the bows , there is some great work going on here very talented bowyers . its exciting watching the swap
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It is exciting ain't it Ken.
The first year I done this I was more excited about what others where building and sending that I almost forgot I was getting one. LOL
By the way I banned icantbuildabow after last year cause he really didn't and several guys stepped up and offered another bow and the recipient chose DVS and got a sweet one. If Icantbuildabow can't come through for me..............Hmmmmmmmmm, so many to choose from. :D
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It came! It came! :) I came home from one of my jobs on day to find a nice pvc tube sitting by the doorway like it was waiting for me to come home. Of course I worked at my other job in 10 minutes so I wasn't able to open it.... :banghead:
Once I got home that night though there was no stopping me, I openned up the tube and was thrilled to see that I had gotten Shaun's bow! (and the arrow hahaha) It is beautiful and feels like a gentle beast. I can't wait to put it (and my arm) through it's paces tomorrow. It's tillered to 60# @ 29" since my draw varies from 28-29 pending on the distance.
:clapper: Beautiful bow. I only hope once I finally send mine out it will be so good. :pray:
ps. what type of wood is it?
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Outstanding Mike! I'm happy for you!
Kris, what kind of scale do you have? I had the same problem earlier this year but didn't know it until I got a new scale. It is the digital one at TRA. I like it alot!
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19 bows received out of 84 and a less then a month to go. :)
oh man I my in box should fill up soon with sent bows. Cant wait to see the rest of the bows.
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sticks - i was just messin , i forgot that was the dudes name last year. you didnt let him in again did you?
ken : i hope youre enjoying your swap bow like i am. the molle is one sweet shooter. the i-beam has a little twist in it , but still shoots good.
kelly : i got down to one ring above my chosen ring , so within the next couple weeks i should be bent and sent.
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Calm down Hov, I know you guys you where just messin. LOL I just about rolled off the couch when DVS posted that was who drew name. I was rolling :laughing:
I did ban a guy from last year but he ain't been around since the last swap and hopefully it stays that way. One bad apple ruins it for everybody. I clearly stated in the sign up post that I would not be as easy about that stuff this year.
It was a pretty good one Dave you got me for sure.
Bona I have a handheld spring scale, I was thinking about sending you a PM to find out what kind of scale you bought. I remember reading your post about it.
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UnderControl16,
"ps. what type of wood is it? " .... there is only one type of wood for self bows! Osage.
Well really, there are others like yew and hickory and hackberry. But hedge is still the king.
Have fun and let us know how it shoot for you.
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After being away for a week, a lot of work and a few days where I was ill, I finally found some time to work on my swap bow. I started to rough out the riser...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0860.jpg)
...slowly it starts to look the way I want it to...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0861.jpg)
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oh they just keep getting better all the time
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^x10
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okay guys, everyone's turning out absolutely beautiful bows. I have yet to see one that i wouldn't love to own. I'm really excited for next year's trade, i plan on making a nice glass bow. I'm finishing up my first glass recurve now, and they're a blast to make.
that said... every new bow i see i wonder if it's headed to my house!
great job, everyone
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Ok, clock is ticking, I've gotta start re-prioritizing. Even my wife is starting to think this may need to move ahead of some of her projects.... :thumbsup:
A month or so ago my boo showed up. Then I found a nice ipe board -- enough for 3 or four bows. I wanted to use smooth-on, so I built my oven. I was going to go the air-hose route for clamping, but then life got in the way again.
But now it's time for the bow! I re-shaped my form a bit, and my youngest daughter help me fill it with holes for clamping without air pressure. (Turns out 7 yr-olds make good drill press operators.) I've cut out and prepped my parts. Tonight is the glue-up. Last night was a dry run:
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It's good to be making some progress. Let's hope it works, 'cause I won't have much time to start over...
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TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC TIC TOC
:readit: I think some may need ---> :help: :goldtooth:
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how many do we have left, kelly?
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Pulled mine off the form today. Got her laid out and ready for profiling and getting up on the tree.
Adam
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19 shipped and 75 to go John. By my count, but I ant worried. I just like stirring the pot sometimes. Next year by this time if my bow is not shipped I will be worried to death. But I have been working on the same bow for a while now is I guess it might happen.
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So I would like to introduce my trade bow. It is a hybrid long bow around 62" black glass maple riser, maple and action boo lams. She has been roughed out. She is still waiting for some overlays and the rest to be cut in. But I am making sure steady progress. This bow will be a work horse not much to look at but a tank.
Also I have a quick question if the recipient wants a 35+ lbs bow as an example is 10 lbs over to much?
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4505/sdc17937.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/sdc17937.jpg/)
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I see a frog frozen in ICE, but not a bow.
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Dang you guys knockin out some really fine lookers. I had a little tough luck with my last coat of sealer....it's been really hot and windy here and dusty. I had to peal,sand and everything in between but I got it all off and resealed.Now a new string and a few more shots and it's outta here.
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well now a few teaser pics before she goes westtexan and just let me know so I can add you in the sent pile.
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kelly got mine done just gotta get the finish on then post some pic s ,get er shippd brock
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well do I will make you as complete but not shipped
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good lookin bows. I'm glad I got mine done already. I got cut off today while bike riding and hurt my shoulder and wrist so I may be out of bow building for a bit. It could have been worse though. I've got a month to get healthy before MOJAM.
I'm starting to think we might have some late bloomers and procrastinators here. The pages will be flying with posts this month so hold on tight!
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good lookin bows. I'm glad I got mine done already. I got cut off today while bike riding and hurt my shoulder and wrist so I may be out of bow building for a bit. It could have been worse though. I've got a month to get healthy before MOJAM.
I'm starting to think we might have some late bloomers and procrastinators here. The pages will be flying with posts this month so hold on tight!
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I ain't been posting much but I'm gaining ground on my bow. Flipped the tips a little tonight. Now I'm going to bed.
Stiks
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You guys sure make some nice looking bows.
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The time is going fast now. I'm hoping this mollie I'm working on is the one!
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Got my tip overlays glued up.... just trying to find time to get back in the shop to get them shaped. My weight might be a little shy so it may get piked (hope not...). This has to be the one since there is no time left to start another! Hopefully I'll have a finished bow by the end of this weekend. Wifey is busy all weekend so the kids and I might get some shop time after all. ;)
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What is the deadline for mailing? I have mine almost ready to go but just hit panic because I seem to remember it being in June?
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It's July something Keenan.
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#4 The time frame for the build will be about 6 months and the bow you built should if anyway possible be shot in. Bows need to finished and shipped by July 9th
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July 4th, Keenan! I'm panicing, too! :help: Stan
The bow is a HBO.
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Thanks guys,
Stan, if it's a glue up I would not try heat treating. It would most liky delam. How far underweight? If it's within ten pounds I would not be disapointed but some might I guess. I have some that are lighter that I shoot when my shoulder flares up and I know several others do the same thing.
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Keenan, its only 3# under. And it does have the hickory glued on, I was wondering about the effect on the lamination.
Stan
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Finally.....ready to ship!
Enjoy shooting Mr.X in Texas
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Finished the shape of the riser tonight. As far as I know XYZ has bigger hands than I, so I made the grip a bit bulkier than usual. Hope ******* ******* likes it.
That's how it looks so far...
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Together with his little brother the recurve...
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Next thing to do are the tips and I'm probabely going o add underlays at the tips to give the bow even more zip. I should be ready to ship by the end of next week... d:-D
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Andy
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Lovetohunt marked you as done but not shipped so I have 2 done waiting be shipped, and I bet ******* in tx is chomping at the bit to get her. you just heard the collective Oh crap from all the others who dont live in tx though.
please I think things are going to get hot, shoot me a PM if you get your bow from this point on. I dont want to miss any, and I think things are going to get real hot real fast.
Swiss, that is going to be a great bow I know ****** is going to give her a good home.
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Almost finished. Hope to have some pics up tonight the final coat is drying and the string is spun up ready to go.
Shawn
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This is killen me:)
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Ok heres my trade all finished up. Will ship tomorrow in the AM. Hope who ever likes it. 49 pounder osage. Skins were a little short so I dressed up the ends. Put a otter skin flipper rest and a black leather wrap. Red and black string.
Shawn
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Beautiful bow Shawn! :thumbsup:
I keep seeing all these great bows and each day when I get home from work I keep looking to see if UPS or USPS left a long package somewhere.
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Shawn that is awesome. Ya get my address right on the tube? :)
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John, I know what you mean, I keep looking everyday also.....Dan
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omg i really need a good three days straight just to get to where its bending. looks like im going to be running some all night scrape sessions july 1st thru 5th , shoot the 5th to the 7ths , and ship./.
omg its so friggin close ....
-hov
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Boy there are some real dandys poping up...nice work guys :thumbsup:
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Shawn that is great looking bow. I marked you as shipped. Just let me know if that falls thru for any reason.
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On the home stretch now, hitmy target weight at the draw. Just gotta shoot er in and put a finish on. Its been Africa hot here in the ol' show-me state and beings how I work outside framing and coach little league baseball its hard to find the extra energy to git r done.
Ill try to throw some pics up in the next couple days
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Thanks all. Ok Kelly I'll let you know if it's not shipped tomorrow.
Shawn
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Ended up 1/4th too wide and too thick today. Gotta fix that tomorrow or I'll be in to making warbows here. Bending by tomorrow evening if all goes well.
Shawn, shes a looker for sure, what kind of skins are those? I want to say copperhead but I keep doubting that.
Adam
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Awsum bows fellas!Ive ben watching my porch like a hawk!Its like waiting on Christmas morning for months on end!LOL!
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Getting close....
Was shaping the tips tonight and had a piece of the zebrawood chip off on me :banghead: Also had a near disaster with the belt sander, but that story is too long to explain. So....I finished the nocks and shot a couple dozen arrows through it anyway. :pray:
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shooting like that I take her as is akmud
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Looks like Canebreaks Shawn. sweet looking bow for sure.
Stiks
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Looks like Canebreaks Shawn. sweet looking bow for sure.
Stiks
yep sorry that is a canebrake skin.
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Cruising now. Glue up of the BBI seemed to come out awesome. I'm liking the smooth-on deal. All cleaned up and have it roughed out and essentially floor tillered. I guess I should take a picture at this point for posterity. Up on the wall and ready for the long string.
It's easy to procrastinate, but once a guy gets going it's easy to forget about everything else.
:bigsmyl:
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Originally posted by Dmaxshawn:
Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Looks like Canebreaks Shawn. sweet looking bow for sure.
Stiks
yep sorry that is a canebrake skin. [/b]
Those skins sure dressed it up nicely.
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Scottm sent me a great looking bamboo backed yew and osage. I'll get pics up as soon as I can. It arrived in late April and I haven't shot it much yet, only about 10 arrows. I guess it's good to be busy at work. Thanks for the bow Scott. Very nice Job!!!
Todd
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I keep lookin' at these "skinned" bows and thinkin'/sayin' I'm gonna do one, too... But to be honest squirmin's snakes send shivers up my spine! I'm just gonna hafta to bite the bullet and come up with some skins. :scared:
Skins seem to make bows come alive. Beautiful work, guys. :clapper:
Stan
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Come on Red, face your fears and pet the snake! If you do something enough you eventually get used to it. :scared:
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Its on now!
Got her tillered out, just about spot on weight but it needs some tweaking, thinning out the tips and sanding smooth. I figure I'll loose five lbs or so once its all said and done. I've got a few inches to play with to pike her back up to weight, but I'm going to shoot her in before then.
Love this bow building bug..
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Keenan, I've waded sloughs and creeks crawlin' with moccasins when I was a kid. We would throw rocks to make'em go under water so we could swim. After I grew up THEN I realized... They can bite!
But they definitely make a great looking bow.
Stan
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I hope the lack of post just means every one is just to busy building bows to post. Red hill moccasins skin a bow up nice also.
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I hope so too Kelly. I been working on one but I'm starting another tomorrow. Not Quite satisfied with how it's going so I put her in the corner. It'll make a good bow no doubt but just not good enough for this.
I probably will be one of the guiys at the post office on the 8th, LOL
Just a reminder the due date to ship is July the 9th. I threw a little grace period in but I'll have to go back and look at it to see how long. This drug out for several months last year with a few guys and if that happens this year I won't do the swap next year.
Kelly is putting forth a lot of work to keep track of this, I know and I don't want to put anymore on him than needed. There are a lot of names that signed up that I haven't seen anything from and I'll be honest it kind of worries me a little.
If you signed up you need to post an update regardless of what it is if you haven't. A little communication goes along way here. I know we all get busy and lose track, I'm guilty myself but lets all keep Kelly posted as to where we are at.
Stiks
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I'm waiting on the fourth coat of tru oil to dry on my trade bow. Just started preping a handle wrap of leather from a pig hide my wife bought me last summer. Trying a lot of "firsts" with this bow. Of course I haven't been making bows very long anyway!
This hickory backed osage has black on red phenolic tip overlays, an arrow rest made from the burl of a young whitetail buck, and the pig hide handle wrap. I should finish up the tru oil by Monday. I want to shoot it a little more before shipping.
Kelly, I'll try to ship by next Saturday... Key word is "try"!
I'll post pics tonight.
Sure hope ********* likes it.
:pray:
Stan
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Stan you know they are going to love it. Just let me know either way if it ships.
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im going to get out there tomorrow and get some shaping done. i need to get down one more ring , then mark it and take the plunge...
i didnt think i would be concerned about it , but after so much work already , i cant bring myself to mark up the back at all , let alone try to lay out a profile and hack away at this beautiful yeller wood...
gotta get to it though , june sho is comin fast...
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Well heres some photos.
She's currently a 73" elb(semi-stiff handle) hickory backed canarywood with jatoba core. Pulls right to the requested draw weight at the length, but like I said before, I need to refine the tiller and pike her, so she will probably end up as a 71".
Handle area:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/IMG_0184.jpg?t=1307840305
I glued her up with a mild reflex deflex which turned out nicely. Might be able to see it in the photo.
Unbraced:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/IMG_0183.jpg?t=1307840599
Braced:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/IMG_0187.jpg?t=1307840684
Full draw:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/IMG_0188.jpg?t=1307840735
Like I said, she needs some tweaking on the tiller. Handle is a tad long and bend needs a touch of evening out. Going to shoot her tomorrow and see if everything holds up to use. Then finish, shoot some more and ship.
Adam
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Originally posted by hova:
gotta get to it though , june sho is comin fast...
Hell, June is here my good man! It's July that's hauling butt around the corner at ya!
I think mine is about ready to graduate to the short string. She's getting close, things start going fast now. And I don't want to accidentally go past ****'s draw length, which is a bit shorter than mine. (Although I wouldn't mind keeping it for myself. If only there was more time....)
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Oh, my 7-year-old says I need to post a picture, so here y'all go...
:archer2:
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1307847266.JPG)
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I have some mixed feelings right now, maybe some of you share them, or think i'm crazy.
So far, i've gone through 4 attempts (not to mention over 100 hours in work and a couple 100 dollars in material) trying to make a beautiful, well crafted shooter for my recipient, like many of us have. That's not my issue, I LOVE rasping a handle to shape, and LOVE seeing the progress of a bow coming to life. What my issue is, is that it seems like I'm making a bow for a person who's never here. I searched for them on the site, so I can gain some insight on their shooting style, body size, etc and found they occasionally chime in in the other forums. Never seen em on the bench, and they haven't even posted what they've been up to. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying any one person HAS TO post things on here to deserve a bow in the trade. They signed up understanding we're on an honor system just like you and I did... It just feels like i'm struggling to fabricate something worthy of any one of you, my friends, peers, and mentors, and it's for someone who just wanted a bow.
Maybe some will share my feelings, and i'm sure more will say i'm being a jerk. I just think it's a little tough to put as much effort, time, and money in something when you get the feeling your person doesn't really care to do the same.
I'm going on attempt 5 tonight (i've been really struggling with tillering lately. my heart skips beats every time I start to now) and while I promise to give them my whole hearted effort, and try to produce something I would love someone to have in their arsenal, I hope it's not in vain.
Sorry for the ramblings, I just wanted to see if I was the only one that has felt like this.
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I get'cha Fish.... But, if you post your efforts here then there is no way it is in vain. We'll all appreciate your efforts!!
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Fish, Not knowing the person or anything about them makes it tough for sure, I have run into that a time or two when building a bow that someone wanted to give as a gift. One thing that may help is to keep the mindset that this may be the bow that really inspires them. Just make the best bow you can as if you were building your dream bow, except it may not be your draw or weight.
Gal. 6:9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. ;) Persevere Brother, you can make it!
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I ran into a few problems, but hopefully all issues resolved now. I'm tillering today and it seems to be going well so far. The bow I started out with sort of morphed into something totally different and I hope my recipient doesn't mind. It's still a sharp looking bow, no problems on that end but not exactly the wood they said they wanted or design they wanted.
I hope that it's alright to make judgement calls along the way with good intentions of building the best possible bow you can put out there, even if it's not exactly what the recipient asked for?
If all goes well right on through to the final tillering this will be my best bow build yet. I hope that's at least encouraging after what I described above.
Fish- I don't think your a jerk, those are real concerns for everybody I would think in that situation. It's gotta make you wonder at the very least. I'm also trying to make the very best possible bow that I am humanly capable of with my skills and not just throwing something together hoping to get a good one in return.
I haven't seen a package yet either by the way for those wondering where theirs is. To my recipient........It won't be long now barring any major catastrophes. :thumbsup:
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I guess Fish could be talking about me or several others like me. Here's where I am. I'm new to bow building. I don't post often but read every day. I try not to give advice where I don't have sufficient knowledge.
I built my first bow just over a year ago and had success with a red oak board bow. This was my first venture into trad since early college(mid 70's). I've always dabbled in woodworking and have loved archery since I was a kid so I thought bow building should be worth a try. When I moved about six years ago I lost my shop and my tools are gathering dust in storage. I've found I can get around the lack of a good shop when bow building and have made several runs to the cold barn this winter to use a power tool for a short time and have done the gluing, rasping, scraping and tillering in the house.
I've built a couple more bows mostly as practice and not sure how much better I am getting. I'm not good at asking questions or posting pictures. I'm hoping to build something acceptable since the people that talked me into joining the trade said just give it your best. I got more intimidated when I received my recipient's name as ******** has many bow builds under his belt and is quite good at it.
I have decided I'm not a fan of the red oak board any more and have been working with hickory, maple and cherry. I love the look of cherry and the hickory seems to be a good choice for backing too!. I hope to have some time this week to get close to done with my trade bow.
When it comes to what I receive I'm not picky. Anything someone is willing to trade is fine. If it happens to be from a newbie or something beautiful from the more experienced builders I've been seeing here it's truly the spirit of the trade that counts. My biggest fear is building a bow, shooting it in, sending it and it breaks. I had a second oak board do that after a good hundred shots. I'm pretty sure the guy that was drawing it back pulled it way to far but that's how it goes.
Sorry that was kind of long winded but I wanted to say I'm trying.
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I'm nervous too. Lotsa people I've never seen before or since.
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With luck everything will work out. And at this point I'm just hoping that's what happens. Like Fish I've gone through at least 100 dollars of materials in at least four or five bows that have failed in different stages. My current bow has turned out quite nice but I'm keeping my eye on it. I want to give my bowyer my best, and in honesty every bow I've made (even the ones that broke) have been and are better than any before them and I hope that my recipient appreciates the one he receives as much as I do.
Like Ranger I am a new "bowyer", one of the not-often-seen. I find I have more to learn before I have much to offer. I myself am a year round engineering student and work for my professors for research. I read this forum everyday and occasionally post, but this (and others) forum serve as my archery fix when I don't have the time.
All in all I want to hold up my end of this swap and make sure that in the end, all is settled up and right with everyone.
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"When it comes to what I receive I'm not picky. Anything someone is willing to trade is fine. If it happens to be from a newbie or something beautiful from the more experienced builders I've been seeing here it's truly the spirit of the trade that counts."
Ranger, That is what it's all about. We often fear that our work won't be good enough for who we are sending it to. Even for experienced bowyers that presure is real strong. Sometimes it is even more so because they often feel they have to live up to expectations and anything less then perfect will be critiqued. Then there is always the fear of what if it blows.
All we can do is do our very best and always tiller at least an inch over the intended draw length.
I have two trade bows going on two sites and both are a new challenge. Almost finished but still fretting over the "what if's"
As far as the possibility that some won't come through with their end of the deal.....well I didn't get into this for what I would recieve. So if I end up empty handed, it's on thier concience only. I'm not going to set myself up to be disapointed.
If for some reason the bows I'm building don't work out,,,,, well it might be my favorite hunting bow that gets shipped, LOL
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"Driven by 100 forms of fear, self delusion and self pity..." is a quote from AA book. My mind will often wander into these realms and I worry about stuff like, "Will I get a good bow or even any bow from this trade?"
Here is my answer: I will get to make and give away a good hunting bow. That is my prize.
Possibly I will get someone's best effort in return, but that is not the point.
I'm with Keenan in his post above, "Let us not become weary in doing good..."
Make shavings with a light heart and a smile my brothers.
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Good luckFish! All anyone can ask is you try your best.I was involved in the bow swap last year.I felt it went great.Allmost everyone involved was posting,building and for the most part shipped on time. I had mixed emotions on whether to get involved this year.Both due to my inexperience with building as well as the amount of people that signed up this time around.I had a feeling from the get go that we had so many wonderful bows swapped last year that a few people may sign up this time just to see what they could get without puting forth the effort to even try to build a bow.I hope my gut feeling was wrong. I went into both last years swap and this one building a bow as a gift not expecting anything in return.Im happy just to see someone shoot something I made. I guess what im trying to say is you have to go into somthing like this feeling like your sending somone a gift not making a trade. All We can ask of anyone involved in this is please just give it your best effort. And if there are people who just signed up to get something for free every time they pick up that bow in the back of their mined they'll know how they got it.Sorry for the long post.
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I have shared Fish n Chick's concerns. I got my bow done real early. I think it may have been the second delivered. I posted a complete build along plus the "convert along" for my vertical edge sander conversion.
I really felt like I was working in the dark with the inability to contact my recipient right up front. I've participated in several bow exchanges and exchanged a number of bow builds for other kinds of archery related crafts. I'm used to and much prefer to be able to contact and work with the person, showing them the three limb types and four riser types that make the variations in my bows and finding out what they'd like to try. For my own part, I have some physical limitations and would have liked to be able to discuss them with whoever is working on mine.
I was also concerned with the size of this effort, actually hesitated to get involved because of that. Sticks and Kelly have put tremendous effort into it, as, obviously, have the builders we've heard from. I am in awe of the perseverance of the self bow builders! I've followed along daily and gotten pretty familiar with what the regular contributors are up to, but there are a lot of folks we haven't heard from. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all concludes successfully.
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Originally posted by scottm:
I guess what im trying to say is you have to go into somthing like this feeling like your sending somone a gift not making a trade.
I can't tell you guys how much better it makes me feel to not be alone on this one. Ranger, there is in no way that my rant was directed to you brother, but maybe to 2% of the folks that signed up. Scott, and all my other friends who have chimed in, you're absolutely right. Semo, I appreciate the verse as well. It is right on.
Please keep in mind, since I have no idea who has me for the trade, i'm not concerned with what I get physically, for what I get spiritually from working in the shop is why I do it to begin with. I hope, in the end, that this passion is manifested into my bow. And the knowledge I have gained, well, to be perfectly honest would have been impossible without you all on this site. I visit one site daily, and it is this one.
If some folks don't send a bow, well it is what it is, and we will cross that bridge together. I absolutely commend Stiks and Kelly for the tremendous effort put forth in organizing this wonderful idea, and i'm grateful to have such inspiring individuals so eager to lend a hand, or a piece of advice, so close at hand.
This will be a tradition, I believe, many of us will look forward to year after year, and I know my commitment to the art of this craft, and my friends on this site, will never change.
Now let's build some bows!!
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I understand yall concerns and hope it goes off with very little trouble. The reason is I took this role was so I could get in next year and show I was willing to put forth and effort and give sticks a break and enjoy the full pleasure of the build. I am sure it will all work itself out in the wash. I have heard the nightmares of folks joining in just to get a free bow. Well we are a close community and many of you are on other sites as well. So welshers beware.
But I think it is all going to be ok. I have seen it go from not seeing anything from some to a full bow in one post.
I would like to see more PICs but that is just bored ole me talking. Now on with the builds :)
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Fish, I didn't take it personally. No problem there. I just figured there may be more people like me and that's why there is a lack of postings of bows ready to go.
I don't personally know anyone on this site but I really like the family atmosphere and think that most here feel that way too! I'm an eternal optimist and expect the best out of everyone until they prove me wrong. First one is on them and if I get taken a second time that's my fault. :)
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Crazy to be posting this right after talking about it , but I had a bow that I'm doing for the other trade on another site blow up at full draw just a few minutes ago. Well guess that why we dont get to "married" to the wood.Shame it had some very nice character and was tight grained yew. Back up stave on the bench. :dunno:
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I'm with Dick. Finished my bow early. Since then I have been sitting back watching others marinate the pot with pictures and stories of blowups. I enjoyed building for if anything for the challenge to build an effective bow for another. Loved the challenge and glad I was able to finish before my wife had our son. All said I knew that I wouldn't have much time after our son was born and church camps this summer to finish a bow late. I had to finish early. As for what I will receive I'm looking for a bow that will shoot and has a great story. I hope we all put forth our best effort towards the swap.
If a bow breaks in the process all I can say is what my football coach used to tell me... "You can't make chicken salad without chicken crap."
Thanks for y'all who are putting forth the effort!
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I understand all the concerns and share a few of the same. My biggest fear is my recipient won't be happy. If he isn't, well I'll try harder on the next one. Or find one of you to help bail me out!
As far as pics of my trade bow, I've totally gone nuts when it comes to photobucket!!! Been trying to post some progress and just can't seem to manage things correctly.
At any rate, I have pretty much finished up my bow today. I've applied a handle wrap, twisted up a new flemish string, and shot about 4 dozen arrows through it this afternoon.
The shooting wasn't great, but I was trying to shoot right handed. I was doing well until my arm gave out.
I plan to shoot more throught the week and will ship as soon as possible. I do want to show this thing to a few friends before shipping. It looks sharp even if I have to say so myself!
:bigsmyl:
Stan
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I definitely feel for you guys. i recieved not one but two bows in this swap from ken75. i think he mailed them a week after the swap started.
tg is not only a family , we are a community. if someone gets wronged , we will absolutely make things right. thats how it is here.
heres my update...
got down to one ring above (as of now) and checked the layout. im looking at 1" handle , 6" long , 2.5" long fades , 1.5" wide at the shoulder of the fade to 1/2" tips right now.
dont mind the dishes , i have one day off every two weeks and its been rough this week...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170690.jpg)
here is a little closer. i dont quite know how to lay it out. i was going to do the centerline gizmo , then measure off that , but the line is wiggly as a mofo. so should i mark it all out on straight paper then transfer the widths at increments along the line?
here is a closer look at my lines. my centerline tool is some drywall screws stuck into a scrap , and it was a little ... rough...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1170691-1.jpg)
i wasnt 100% sure , so i split the line where it looked adequate , and followed the grain when the lines were a mess...i might start knifing down a little bit , but im going to hold off till i hear a little advice...
also , would it be a horrible idea to shape the profile , then go down the last layer , or should i just get down the whole log , then re-mark and go from there...
thanks guys , its coming along now....
-hov
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Some really nice bows being built. Well if my elbow would let me do something I woulda had mine out last week. It was about all I could do was get it drawn to maybe 25 inches..I tried shooting it the other day but after 3 shots I give up just as I release that quick drop in weight kills the tendon in my Elbow. Anyways a few pics
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Those temps are pretty much the norm here in my shop the last several weeks. I guess I should add it's just under 13/4" at the fades and 64" NTN and a bit over 50# at 27.
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Nice, Olin, I like the profile and colors. Take care of the elbow.
Oh, yeah, noticed you weren't far from the water hose in your pic. Get cooled off?
;) Stan
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Nice looking bow Olin. ithink he has the hose hooked up to his pant leg, if it shoots as straight as that bow looks like it will, :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Nice bow Olin.Love the profile and color.Take care of that elbow.And I thought ive ben hot.But ive never had to hook up a water hose to my pant leg.LOL!
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Hey Stan, if you want someone to post those pictures for ya I'd be glad to. Just email them to me, my email address is in my profile. Just click my name above my avatar and click on my email address. It's really not a problem for me to do that for ya.
Sharp lookin bow Texan! :thumbsup:
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great looking bow. I feel your pain on the heat. It's been like that here lately too. Ours wasn't AS hot but still I didn't like it ! I really need to work on my stiching!
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't share some of the same concerns as Fish and others. I sure hope some folks did not sign up with hopes of receiving a bow and never intending to build one. If that is the case, then may karma rear it's ugly head and they miss the buck of a lifetime this fall with the bow they received.
I too had a recipient that doesn't post much, but after I sent him the bow I made, he posted right away about how much he liked it. That is one of my favorite posts on Trad Gang and I still go back and re-read it every now and then.
I also built two bows for this swap. I shortened the length that I typically build my longbows and made an educated guess at the stack thickness I would need and missed weight. That bow became a present to my Dad for his birthday. He'd been toying with the idea of getting into trad archery, and my mistake was the catylist to do so. He is a very good hobbyist woodworker and is never satisfied with anything he builds, but he keeps telling me he now has the prettiest bow out there. (Gotta also thank kennym for the awesome lams.) I know this bow will be a special bow for family. Dad's already said it will go back to my son, who's 4 now, when he gets big enough for it.
So I shelled out a couple hundred bucks for supplies for these two bows, but it was worth it to make two people happy and to know my son will someday be shooting a special bow from grandpa.
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I would doubt there were entries that actually just hoped to get an undeserved bow. More likely are cases of purely human folk who entered in a burst of enthusiasm and good intentions, but... We all know how those can burn out, life gets in the way, sometimes unavoidably, etc. Hopefully, as has been stated, it will all work out beautifully. If not, well, we're big boys and girls and we'll handle it.
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unfortunately for me, I built my bow early on in the trade schedule, and now I'm wishing that I waited a bit because my bow building skills have improved since then, but what i made was the best to my ability at the time...
I just hope that whoever makes my bow enjoys making it and takes pride in their work. there isn't a whole lot more to ask.
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Thanks for the replies...I'm the worlds worst at not posting. I'm not real sure when I signed up but I know I've looked around on the forum for 3 or 4 years and thanks to everyone here I learned to build a bow. I haven't built that many bows maybe 15 or so and only have a couple left and the rest I give away. I've never even seen a self bow other than the ones I've built..I don't even know anyone that builds a bow but it's a fun hobby for sure. It still can't get over how much you can bend a piece a wood. Semo that is Fiebings leather die I used I think British Tan and Brown and it don't take much at all. Might sound crazy but I put the tan on first and let it dry then I put the brown on over it and kinda worked it in and it give it kind of a fire red look under the brown. I used my phone camera and the pics don't show the colors real well.
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I've been getting in on these bow trades on PA for a few years now and last year and this year here on TG. I finished my TG bow and mailed it off early. I just recently finished my PA trade bow and mailed it off. Now I can sit back and watch the meylay. d;^)
I'm with Ranger44! I am an optimistic, trusting person also. It never crosses my mind that I might not get a bow in trade. I don't get in to these trades to get bows. I can build a bow! I do appreciate every bow I have recieved in trade. They are all in my collection. If someone can accept a bow knowing full well he doesn't intend to recipricate that's his problem and something he has to live with.
My selfish reason for entering bow trades is to encourage folks that are interested in archery to jump right in and get involved. These trades are the perfect opportunity to have some of the best bowyers around help you with your design and execution and these opportunities will get you doing your best. All I require(if that matters) is that you put your best effort into the bow you build for your recipient. There is another benefit to these trades...the community aspect. We make new friends that have similar interest, find folks that live relatively close by or at least get to see them once or twice a year at archery related events.
Now that we are getting into "CRUNCH" time everyone that is still grinding away need to step back for a minute. Think about the bow you are building for your recipient and step by step, get her done. Don't get in a rush! Don't get agrivated! Don't try to make something you've never tried before, it's too late for that now. Make each scrape thoughtful, think about each process as it arises and execute it with authority. And when all is said and done be proud to sign your name and date to this creation of yours. You never know. Someone might find your bow at a flea market in 100 years and just think how cool that will be!
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West texan that is a nice looking stick you made.
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I got "shafted" on my first ever bow swap over on archerytalk. Wasn't fun, but I had to take it in stride and signed up again for the next year and received a great BBI that I still shoot. This is my first on TG and I'm a bit ashamed at how long it is taking me but I'm almost there and should make the deadline.
I too haven't seen any posts from my recipient since the signup and was a bit curious. But he was involved last year and completed things so I'm hopeful. I also hope he will enjoy the stick I'm bending for him.
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hova,
this is how i like to get an accurate profile on the snakey limbs.
find the centerline you want to follow on the stave, i like to do that visually, in good natural light, following a "grain line"- but on a SPLIT stave , one of those centering tools would work just as well too!
and then mark that centerline every inch.
i make a pattern, of the desired shape- with a centerline!
punch little holes down the centerline every inch.
this pattern with a ruler and craft knife only takes a few minutes.
then starting at the fade, i follow the centerline drawn on the bow, with the centerline on the pattern- which i can see through the little holes- and align the two centerlines, at the corresponding inch intervals, then i simply mark the stave either side of the hole- giving me the exact width- then move onto the next hole.
then smooth out your side lines on the stave afterwards.
one could do marks and holes every half inch if wanted. besides you only get one shot at it!!!!
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308009119.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308009119.jpg)
NOTE: after drawing the profile on the stave, i then make adjustments for knots, by adding extra space around them, extra space that the pattern would not have allowed for.
if this is a bit confusing let me know , and i will take more pictures, and do a step by step post- i sometimes get a bit carried away in my head - and things can get a little confusing for me, what with all the other voices in my head! :) :confused:
but its super accurate for any shape, and quick and easy.
g'luck
wayne
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oops sorry about the big image guys- just cant get good help nowdays. doggone wimin not doin what dey told!!!!!!
yup my good wife has to help me with all this techno stuff- being a bit of a techno peasant myself!!!
i will try and fix it if i can.
typing for me- looks a bit like lazy chickens scratchin' for corn in the dust on a hot day!!- slow, lethargic and confusing.
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Just to ease some concerns. I know several guys in the swap personally. I have hunted and shared camp with several of them. A couple just don't post much but are usually here on a daily basis.
Last year there was about 7 or 8 bows that where really late all of those fellers made good and had alot of remorse for being so late. Only one guy disapeared after he got a bow and he has not been back to Trad Gang that I know of. I do check periodically cause as far as I am concerned he still owes.
The whole reason behind the swap for me was to create a chance to get some of my work into the hands of others here who have helped and guided me along the way and also have a chance at adding a bow from the bench to my collection of sentiments. Most guys here don't and won't sell their bows so I figured what the heck. It gives all who enter a chance to give there best and recieve a part of someone else.
No two guys here build bows exactly the same so I figured maybe some one would like to have a bow like I build and give a bow like they build and enjoy someone elses effort.
It has been repeated several times in one way or another about what the spirit of the swap is. This year most everyone (myself included) wanted to push the envelope and build something they never attempted to please their recipient. That is all fine and has grown my skill and experience in alot of ways.
I agree with Pat for sure as it get's down to the wire. I have had three failed attempts (all under weight) and will most likely go to the ol' faithful standby of doing what I know works and doing what I do and that is just getting a good stick and making her bend nice.
I know there will some bows shipped late. Life happens. I do hope to get communication so I can let guys know not to worry, Matter of fact Kelly sent me a PM today that said one guy dropped out and needed kelly to pass on the message to his builder to send it to his recipient or he would forward it if it arrived at his home. No name will be mentioned as I feel he was honest and done the right thing. He said he was having some issues. I hope all works out and he is more than welcome next year.
I honestly think that all that signed up will come through with there best and that all signed up for the right reasons. My first post on this issue was just simply a reminder.
Now everybody calm down, take a deep breath..... and lets finish some bows!!!!! :bigsmyl:
I do want to say thanks to Kelly for all the help and say thanks to all the guys and gal(Bona) who signed up and are involved that make this possible. It will be another great one I'm sure.
Stiks
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Kris, it's good to see you on here as a moderator. You'll be good at it. BTW, what the heck happened to this page?! :dunno:
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i know i haven't posted in a while. my tradebow will be ready to ship in a week and a few days. mr pat and stiks have seen my trade bow. they gave me a few pointers on tweeking it a little. thanxs stiks for making a surprise visit to hickory. i know it was a long drive. i also beleive my trade bow is well shot in, i shot it in hickory competing in the ultimate archer. thanx mr pat for letting my use your ash arrows. i think mr pat and stiks will agree that my recipient should be pleasantly surprised.
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sorry guys the screwed up page format is my pic that is toooo long i will take it down right now, and then try and repost the pic later this morning. sorry!!
wayne
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Hey Bona,
Glad to see you have a problem with the page too, thought my eyes were going funny on me.
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Oops, seems to be fixed now.
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Kris, Great to see ya as a moderator. I know you'll be a good one. Thanks again to you and Kelly both for all the work you have put into this and for your help to keep this forum going. I think the Bench is a great addition to the site.
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I'm one that doesn't post that much, I read everyday on work breaks tho. I guess I don't post much since I probably don't have any advise that Yal don't know, seein how just about everything I know has came from yal. With that being said I finished my bow up yesterday. Gotta make a string and post up some pics tonight and it'll be Wednesday before I can get to a post office to ship it. This will be my 8th bow since the end of turkey season so iv been busy and ain't had time to play on the computer at night. Iv got 5 more to build in the next two months then it'll be time to start huntin again. You fellas sure have made some fine bows up to this point!
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Now see there! Rogers come out of the woods and proved my point exactly.
Thanks for the update rogers, looking forward to pics.
Stiks
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Everyone is turning out some great looking bows.
I hope to have mine shipped by Thursday. Here are some pics of the bow, i haven't seen my reciepent on here since the sign up, but then again i haven't been on much latley, myself........
Some natural reflux (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap051.jpg)
Braced (http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap063.jpg)
This bow is from a Hickory sappling
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Some spots the pith line still shows.
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Hard to tell from the picture but it goes about 1/8" in on the belly side
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap055.jpg)
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap060.jpg)
Just unstrung
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap066.jpg)
It's it for a "south paw" 70" 55#@29 I hope it serves receipent well !!
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap065.jpg)
Kelly i'll let you know when it ships for sure !
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Now that is a primitive bow and looks like a blast to shoot. Now where is taht full draw pic.
And let me know if you ship it formerbutcher
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oops you posted as I was posting, and you were quicker.
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Will do Kelly, and thanks for keeping an eye on this !
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Dang butcher that is freakin sweet!!!!
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I know that I personally am in the same boat as Stiks it sounds like. I have been trying to work out a new style using cherry on top of that rather then my usual oak. As a result I have four bows all in different stages in my work area. However I know that if I am unable to pull through with this new method for me, I should easily be able to fall back on what I know I can do and have my trad bow ready to ship in three days flat. I just am hoping to be able to do something "special" this time around. It's been a while since I tried to stretch my wings bow making anyways and this gave me the perfect reason to.
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That's cool, Butcher! Hey! Send that thing down here to South Arkansas and I'll test run it for you recipient! The curve in the handle/fades area is perfect for a lefty.
:bigsmyl: Stan
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fish n chicks and red hill, thanks for the complements !
Sorry red hill it's not going south :bigsmyl:
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Nice work formerbutcher!
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Formerbutcher, Nice work on that one for sure. To stay that straight just after unstringing shows just how good your tillering is, especially pulling that much weight and draw length.......Dan
Kris & Kelly, thanks for all the work you guys do to pull this together and keep track of everything.....Dan
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Some very nice bows for sure being built. I sent mine out today. I posted a few pictures early in the process, sorry for not doing more of a build along but these days I'm lucky to find the time to build let alone post much. I hope it performs well for the new owner.
Mark
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Mark I will mark you as sent.
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I have 2 bows shipped and one should be there any minute if not there already. And the bowyer is just shooting to much to post right now.
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I got my trade bow about 60% done. It'll ship on time.
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Wow, came back to find more catching up to read through than I have in a long time.
I have to admit that while I'm not concerned about what I receive (or even if), it does make me feel better to see my recipient pop in once in awhile. Kind of helps me feel a little more sure they'll really appreciate my efforts.
Cheers!
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@ fujimo : brother that is exactly what i was talkin about . i am definitely looking at something more like that , but i was just going to draw and measure. templates are nothing but trouble for me.
@ stiks : saw the mod tag before the posts and thought the same as everyone else ; "good on ya mate" . i think kelly really likes to hear thank you. as if he doesnt do enough for all of us in his daily job , he figured he'd just lend a hand for fun...
i have seen my recip post on the thread recently , and it is reassuring. Just going to give it all the mojo i can.
on a more technical side , with a selfbow , when doing a bend through the handle , do you guys just leave a bit of heft in the handle area till youre shaped more into limbs????
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@ fujimo : brother that is exactly what i was talkin about . i am definitely looking at something more like that , but i was just going to draw and measure. templates are nothing but trouble for me.
@ stiks : saw the mod tag before the posts and thought the same as everyone else ; "good on ya mate" . i think kelly really likes to hear thank you. as if he doesnt do enough for all of us in his daily job , he figured he'd just lend a hand for fun...
i have seen my recip post on the thread recently , and it is reassuring. Just going to give it all the mojo i can.
on a more technical side , with a selfbow , when doing a bend through the handle , do you guys just leave a bit of heft in the handle area till youre shaped more into limbs????
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Hova, The handle should be the biggest part of the bow , both in width and thickness. On a bendy handle bow I try to get the handle to give at full draw so I tiller the limbs and bring the bend back to the handle during the final tillering.
Cool "stick" bow John.
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Wow I really like that hickory sapling bow, Nice work.
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I'm working on a mollie also, largely due to Ken75's bows he has posted. I haven't talked much about it cause I wasn't sure it was what I wanted to give as my trade bow. But it's looking like it might be the one.
I will try to post some pics of it later today.
I haven't seen anything of my recipient since early on either.
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Thanks Pat and kris, it was fun to make...won't be my last !
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First coat of Tru oil went on last night! Looks like I might just make it after all! :)
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My recipient posts regularly :) I have no fear that he/she/it is still around - hehehe.
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Got word that another one has been shipped. So unless I missed something 3 bows should be hitting doorsteps soon. Now let me double check and see if I missed a post.
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I am not worried about anything now got mine sh (http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz171/jess_stuart/101_5588.jpg)ipped off this am UPS. Here are a few pics.
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Make that 4 in the mail. So we starte with 84 bowyers one dropped out leaving 83. 19 bows received leaving 64 and 4 bows shipped leaving 60. I have 4 marked as completed and not shipped also, so we are moving right along.
Nice bow I would love to see *****'s face when this hits their door step.
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Well you can add one more this weekend. HOPEFULLY. My goal is to be shipped this weekend. Ill get together with dvs and try to get some pics up tonight. Were takin the boys to a baseball game and hopefully het a little closer to done.
Got a string twisted uo last night need to shoot it in a little more. Butas it stands its 63 in ntn straight profile osage selfbow with wenge and purpleheart tip overlays gonna use some elkhide I got on the cheap for a skiv handle and came in right at my recipients #age at 29 in.
Dave and I are still awaiting our bows but remain optimistic. Hope everything goes off w/o a hitch and for those of you who are still working keep your head down and don't let your wives(or husband) get in the way of the prize!
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And hova I would definitely try and freehand the the centerline. That osage can be hard to read but like it was posted earlier, in the right light it glows like tru glo sights if anyone even remembers what those look like :-D
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Hey KellyG, make that another on the way. I got my sent out today...should show up on the West Coast Friday or Saturday !
I'm going to send my person a message, just so it's not sitting on the front porch :thumbsup:
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h8non : i did use natural light and a pencil to kind of mark along where i thought the grain was going , but it kind of wanders across the stave. the gizmo actually showed pretty much the same line. there were a few spots that were tricky , but i split the gizmo line , and it pretty much was right near my freehand.
im working tonight on measurements and im just going to mark every 6" and do the width at that point then connect them .
does osage like a flat belly square cross shape or more of a trapped/rounded belly?
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hova, I like the rounded belly.
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Hey Jess - That's one fine lookin' takedown! Is it heading to PA? ;)
Some fine looking bows heading off to their recipients now.
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Now it's rocking!! Nice bow Jess-another beauty on the way.
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It is good to finally have it in the mail, been adding on to my little bow shop. I found out I certainly ain't no carpenter, but about got it finished up. Thanks for the kind words.
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Here is my swap bow, all ready to be shipped out. Sure hope xxxxxxxx likes it cause I sure do! Got off late today and couldnt get to the hardware store before they closed so Ill have to stop tomorrow get get some PVC and send her off on Thursday.
PS: My recipient has been posting some!
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what veneer is that on the belly caleb. sure is pretty.- great bow.
wayne
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Formerbutcher update you to sent, I bet it want be sitting on a porch for long. Everyone not near the coast line is awaiting the same package now.
Rogers wow is all I got. Just let me know if you don't ship on Thursday I put that as your ship date. If you dont let me know. Ok now things are heating up.
Please keep posting here, but if I don't acknowledge a sent or received bow someone knock me in the head and point it out. Please.
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I got a PM yesterday that one feller is gonna be shipping late possibly.
If any one thinks they may not get shipped on time just let me or Kelly know so we can forward the message to your recipient if it does not ship on time. If your Late shipping just remember we kind of expect that to some degree,(it is bowmaking and stuff happens, LOL) What makes it look bad is no communication so let me or Kelly know.
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Great bow you made Caleb. You have talent.
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Caleb... that's a beauty!
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Thanks guys yal have made some great ones as well.
Wayne, the veneer is Imbuya Pommele.
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Beautiful work Jess and Caleb!They'll be people standing on the porch waiting for the mailman!
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kelly, shes done im shootin her in wanna put a couple hunderd thru her make sure lookin to ship it out monday my recipent posted the other day first iv seen of himsience we stared brock
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Nice bow Caleb....
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Caleb shes a beauty!
Still pluggin away here, watching the mailbox from the shop!
Adam
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Diamondback59,
Just let me know if the ship date falls through. I Marked you as shipping on Monday. we are moving now.
You have a 8% chance that a bow will hit your door step by next week as of right now.
:)
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Hey those are good odds! :biglaugh:
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Very nice job, Caleb. She's a beauty !
Mine came out a little light, so I had to short it down from 64" to 60". But I like it much better this way. Now she's short and agile...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0881.jpg)
Tomorrow I'm going to glue the tips and the I can tiller it to the desired draw weigth.
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Andy
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I have a red oak bow I have been tillering for %$##$ . It was naturaly reflex/deflex about an inch or so. I have paper backed it with cherry tip overlays. It sure acts like it's going to be a shooter. I should have it tillerd by tonight and finished up this week. I haven't been taking pics because my daughter took my camera on her summer vacation.
I have been trying to make a sinew backed juniper bow for this tade bow but have failed so far,more so in my wood selection than in the making part. I have one more ruffed stave of juniper but I wanted to have one bow completed with the time ticking away so quick.
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swiss,
that is a nice bow there for sure. I Know **** is going to love it.
Twitch you have a little time but it is tic tic ticing away lol.
Not bad odds and they go up as more bows get shipped but will go down as they find their way to where ever they are going.
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Was just told another one was shipped. So your odds just go better. So *****, **********, ***********, *******, ********, ***********, ********* and ******** yall need to start watching the mail. I am tracking 6 en-route and 2 ready to ship. So there is a 12% chance that one of these bows is yours.
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I like that a 12% chance one is yours. About the draw odd here in New Mexico for elk.
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If I had a 12% chance of winning the powerball jackpot you better believe I'd be buying some tickets tonight. I'm feelin' lucky :bigsmyl:
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Very nice, Andy! That's a beauty. :)
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Nice work Andy!
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Very nice Andy.
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Ok folks, today I sanded the underlays until they blend nice and smooth into the limbs. I checked the draw weigth and indeed the bow picked up 3-5 lbs but towards the end of the draw it feels smoother and much nicer.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0890.jpg)
Compared to the picture of the full draw I posted earlier one can clearly see that the string angle is smaller than before.
After that it's time for the tips...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0892.jpg)
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Well the overlays are baking right now hopefully get the bow shipped in 10days or less.
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Andy, is that bow for a leftie? She looks really nice.
Stan
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Sorry red hill, ********* ****** is not a leftie.
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Andy
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Oh that is going to be a great bow Andy.
Waldo can we have a sneak peak. :)
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Nice bow Andy!! Looks good as a 60 incher.
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Man the bows are really showing up now :thumbsup:
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there are some great looking bows being turned out on here, the only problem is none of them have ended up on my front porch. i myself have been a slacker, well not so much a slacker, i just hit a major roadblock when it comes to bow building with the birth of my first child back in march
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who knew being a dad would be so time consuming? the good news is i am finally getting to start on my trade bow and i shouldn't have a problem making the deadline. i'll get some pics of it up this weekend
eric
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Eric, some things are more important than even bows. :readit:
Good job bein a busy Dad!! :thumbsup:
Congrats again bro!
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Congrats eric, but heck any of us who are dads could have filled you in on that. :)
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Finally got some time to shoot some arrows tonight and man nothin reminds you more of why you build bows than when you get to zip those first few arrows through a new bow. (http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/h8noncubs/2011-06-16221818.jpg) (http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/h8noncubs/2011-06-16221936.jpg)
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Congrats Eric!
Good looking bow Cubs
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Final coat of Tru oil went on this morning. Just got done twisting up a new string and put fur silencers on. Shot a few dozen arrows off the knuckle and was grouping pretty well. I think I have brace height dialed in. Should have the floppy rest and grip leather on this weekend and hopefully will ship Monday!! :)
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WOW,,,, A tube showed up on our pork yesterday. Had to wait for the little woman to get home to open her suprize :bigsmyl: Her jaw dropped as I explained that the trade I made was to be for her. :bigsmyl: Mark S. made an incredible Bamboo backed osage long bow. We will get some pics up later today. Lulyn and I both thank you very much Mark. I am more then impressed with your work skills as a bowyer!
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Keenan: I forgot that you had your trade bow made for her. It's like a double whammy. You get to make someone's day with the bow you craft. Then you get to make your wife's day by handing her the one you should have received. That is awesome and can't wait to see pictures.
On another note I was excited to come home from work yesterday because my wife said there was something at the front door... I was thinking bow :knothead:
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Keenan glad you got your bow. I will mark you a as received.
Goose sorry you got skunked yet another day. Well at least if can kill and skin it you have the makings of a lovely quiver.
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Literally and figuratively Kelly
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The mail man came to my door with a long package. I can hardly type this because I am so excited. It is so beautiful words can't describe it so I will let the pictures do the talking. I am so thankful for the gift. Thank you Lee.
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I got to see and shoot this bow, the pics does not do it justices.and it even shoots better than it looks. :thumbsup:
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Eric - Congrats on becoming a Dad. Your world will never be the same again.
ranger - You lucky dog! This is one fine bow you got there. Enjoy.
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Nice lookin' family, Eric. Kelly's correct, many of us could have filled you in. But it's better for you to learn about kids first hand.
Great lookin' bow ya got, Ranger!
Stan
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I just received my trade bow from Formerbutcher and could not be happier!!!
The bow is exactly what I was hoping for! :D
I have not had a chance to shoot it yet but can tell its gonna be a sweet shooter. I'll report back when I do.
Thank you so much to formerbutcher and everyone who helped put this on! :clapper:
Can't wait to take my new bow Hog Hunting!
Thanks again!
Tenbrook
Originally posted by formerbutcher:
Hard to tell from the picture but it goes about 1/8" in on the belly side
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Just unstrung
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It's it for a "south paw" 70" 55#@29 I hope it serves receipent well !!
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll62/johnkeehn/hickory%20stick%20bow/hickorystickbowtradgangswap065.jpg)
Kelly i'll let you know when it ships for sure !
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Started working on my "Trade Bow" yesterday.
Here are some pictures to get you started.
-In the form
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-Fresh out of the form.
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-Glue lines look good.
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-Riser glued on (Poplar & Walnut)
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-Antler tips.
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That's it for today.... :thumbsup:
More to come tomorrow!
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Tenbrook, that looks really cool. Glad to see I'm not the only one getting going late in the proceedings. Got to get away from the computer and do some shaving to get mine down to floor tiller.
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Hey Keenan,
Glad it got to you OK, it was a fun bow to make. I hope your wife likes it and it shoots well for her,enjoy.
Mark
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congratulations both on your fine bows and job well done on all the bows I have seen. Yall are just wonderful to watch. And thank each and every one of you for trying this and giving it your best. Thanks to stiks for putting this on and letting me be a part of it in a small way.
enough of the mushy stuff get back to work and build build build
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Nice start tenbrook!Cant wait to see more!
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Ranger you lucky ol'dog!
Nice stick right there.
Got mine pretty well tillered. I'll be shooting her on sunday. Ended up gluing an osage lam on the belly and got quite a bit of weight back. Still might have to pike it a little but we'll see.
Seeing all everybody recieve there bows is almost as much fun as watching my kids on Christmas morning. My favorite part of this whole thing is seeing peoples reaction when they get a long package on the porch and pull out their new bow. :bigsmyl: .
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Shuck's, I liked that little hickory limb! Congrat's to those who are shooting their trade bows this weekend, some real nice bows here!!
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This was my first time doing a BBI and it looks like my bow is gonna be to light......
Back to the drawing board.
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Tenbrook, add another thin lam to the belly. That will get you back up to weight.
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Tenbrook,
My trade bow is a D/R osage selfbow. It came in light and I added an osage belly lam and it brought it back around to where I want it. We'll see where it is when I sand and shoot if it needs to be piked a little.
From the looks of your measuring stick you could pike yours a few inches and still be good unless you building for a 30" draw. How long is it, 72"?
Joe I know what you mean about that little hickory stick. Good looking bow right there. My favorites so far are the primitive looking wood bows but there have been some awesome glass bows built as well.
Stiks
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Well here are some more pics I am about 80% done sanding a little more tonight and ready for some finish tomorrow.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9839/img7947m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/img7947m.jpg/)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/1796/img7948k.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/img7948k.jpg/)
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/365/img7946yj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/img7946yj.jpg/)
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Got home from work today and the wife opens the side door and says what did you order now.. I said nutten but let me see it:) There was a white tube from Red Hill. I flew out to the bow shop and open it up and out popped a really sharp Osage backed with Hickory Bow. Has an antler arrow rest, black tip over lays and is just so sweet.
Stan thanks so much for the awesome bow my friend, Roy
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6622.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6624.jpg)
The first 5 arrows from 10 yards. Ya Baby:)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/IMG_6625.jpg)
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A BOW FER YEW.......
this is my trade bowthat i have been working on for the last 6 months or so on and off. the yew board was cut about 15 years ago by a friend of mine, i really struggled to get a clear bow out of it- but this was the best i could do out of the 6" wide board
so it is 68" N2N, with a hickory backing
1 3/8 at the fades
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308443975.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308443975.jpg)
so now, i am not entirely happy with the tiller, so i thought i might pike it an inch either side, and also give me those few #'s i am looking for, and i also get to replace the nock overlays.
i used whenge, and i am not really happy with the wood- really kinda brittle, i thought about using some ipe or osage, or some curly maple- i do like the dark contrast though.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444046.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444046.jpg)
this is the amount of glued in reflex, after tillering, and multiple draws- no shooting yet.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444119.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444119.jpg)
i just love the grain patterns in these boards- good thing it is hickory backed.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444201.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444201.jpg)
this is a knot mid limb on the top. it started out as a bigger knot, so had more wood around it, but as i tillered it got smaller, and i have already reduced the wood around it once, and i geuss i could take some more off on the right side again.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444258.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308444258.jpg)
these are the nock overlays,they need a bunch of work on them still, thats if i keep em.
the entire bow is all still a bit rough, and needs, sanding, finishing and leather handle etc
any and all input will be appreciated
wayne
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Here are some pics of the awesome trade bow that Mark Smeltzer made for Lulyn. Pics just don't do this bow justice, She is a beauty with a fantastic dye job on the back and very clean detail work. Thanks again Mark.
Wow, Mark I can't thank you enough.It is the most beautiful bow and fits perfectly.Gorgeous bow in every way!! My birthday is coming up and what a great gift!! I can't believe it is actually my bow. Thank you, I will show it off every where I go. LuLyn (Keenan's wife)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/DSC_0039_1.jpg)
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/DSC_0050_1.jpg)
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You're pretty critical of your work :^) (not all a bad thing)....IMHO it looks great!
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Glenn
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waldo320 I don't see anything but frogs in ice.
Roy looks like you got yourself a very lovely bow there and a fine shooter as well. I also marked you as received.
Fujimo that looks like a good stick to me. I can't wait to see her done to your standard if you are not happy with that tiller. That dark wood in the nocks really pop against that white hickory.
Keenan I would almost bet you wish that bow was for you now. Your wife is a lucky lady that is a beautiful stick there.
Ok I count 23 bows received and still we have 3 in the mail somewhere and one should be shipped on Monday so we are moving along now.
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Nope Kelly, It has brought me more joy to see Lulyn light up and through this trade bow deal I have been able to bless two so I am double blessed. :bigsmyl:
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Fujimo: that tiller is beautiful! That bow is going to be gorgeous when it's finished! :thumbsup:
Keenan: That bow is sure a looker! The smile on your wife's face says it all! :)
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Keenan,
I saw the bow before Mark shipped it and you're right, it is an incredible looking bow. I wish more people could see how petite it is, those tips cant be over 5/16" wide at the grooves.
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Boy all this pressure surly brings the cream to the surface! d;^)
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I'm one of those souls who checks in periodically but doesn't post much. Between work, family (5 kids-all in multiple extracurricular activities), church, and being a scoutmaster for my boy's troop, it doesn't seem like there's enough time in the days. However, I do have my bow about 50% done and definitely plan to ship by the deadline. I'll try to show some pics when I get the chance.
As others have said, there are some great bows being produced. Great work everyone!
--Steve
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Pat you sure are right about that, LOL.
Keenan it looks like your wonderful bride really likes her new bow. Hope to see you and her with it and at the classic next year.
Stiks
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well thanks y'all
but on the tillering tree, i honestly felt that the two limbs were not bending in sync, and i had that little stiff spot at the knot
(according to the gizmo!!!-man what a tool!)
but it certianally does look a bit better in hand- like so many other guys have said- that they like to final tiller in a mirror- i can see now how that makes more sense.
;looking at all the bows that have been shipped- and about to be shipped, i honestly cannot see how any recipient could ever be dissapointed- this concept is so awesome- it sure binds a community.
i also belong to a boat forum, (and to some other forums too) man what a difference- the back biting, open aggression and 'elitisim' displayed there is disgusting - trad gang is absolutely amazing, the comraderie is phenomenal, and the real skills displayed are unsurpassed. so many of these other forums are just a lot of hot air and big talk ;sadly.
well done to the organisers, and to all the participants on this forum.
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Originally posted by fujimo:
i also belong to a boat forum, (and to some other forums too) man what a difference- the back biting, open aggression and 'elitisim' displayed there is disgusting - trad gang is absolutely amazing, the comraderie is phenomenal, and the real skills displayed are unsurpassed. so many of these other forums are just a lot of hot air and big talk ;sadly.
well done to the organisers, and to all the participants on this forum.
Here here Fujimo! I'm a moderator on an Alaskan outdoors forum and I see the same things you mentioned. TG is a breath of fresh air for sure! :)
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Am I the only one cutting things this fine? It seem June/July rushed down on me. I only just painted my first coat! It'll be another week before I can send my bow off!!
Dang, where did 2011 go!?
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hello Johan,
what did you build- would love to see some pics.
groete
wayne
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fujimo. IMO this is what these bow swaps are all about. Bringing together a community and sharing info and friendship. For the beginners it really gives them the feeling that they can do it and they can improve their techniques and the outcome of the bow they are building. Just knowing it is going to someone else really brings out the best in folks. So far this bow trade has been positivly driven and hopefully is will continue so until all bows are delivered.
Both Kris and Kelly have done a jam up job and I'm sure they will continue until the last bow is out. Thanks guys for all your hard work. And thank you to the experienced bowyers that are participating. You are going a step farther by stepping outside your comfort box but also encouraging the newbies to dig deep and create the best bow they can.
I am a moderator on two other archery websites that don't tolerate nastiness, meanness and impolite behavior and it is a pleasure to be a part of another site that doesn't allow disrespect and other foolishness.
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Thanks Keenan and LuLyn,
I'm glad you like it. I had a good time making it. I must admit though it's a bit nerve wracking making a bow that is going to Keenan or his lovely wife, I've seen many of Keenans bow and they are amoung the best.
Thanks Greg, now to get your bow into your hands.
Soon I promise.
Mark
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Let me start by sayin , that this is without a doubt the best forum on the net.It is a true gentlemans (women not excluded by any means) forum. I swear less since i have joined , i judge much less , and i have learned that you never know what youre capable of , until you try.
On that note , heres my fathers day gift . one whole hour of no interruptions to get as much done as i could on my log. i was hoping to have it a little close to floor tiller or even looking like a bow , but the osage laughed at my efforts with a rasp. the drawknife was getting a little bite-y , so until i can secure the stave , im on hold. the bright side , im going to my father in laws , and im going to see if he'll let me borrow his clamp.
Heres the pics.
heres where i started today. the centerline and the two next to it are the only ones that matter.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170824.jpg)
heres about midlimb area
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170828.jpg)
heres a knot...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170830.jpg)
here she is up against the neighbors vinyl fence. i think if i could find it , i would love to have and osage picket fence. just osage and tru oil. . .
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170831.jpg)
our buddy...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170834.jpg)
the other side of one. ill probably tiller through this.
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170835.jpg)
profile/twist. im sure a tiny bit of heat will get most of this out. HF heatgun might just be my fathers day present to **** ********...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170838.jpg)
so i still need to get my thickness down and get her bending , but its close. i was sitting on it before , and i had to stop cause i can feel it giving a little. so if you shoot a 251# bow , ill string it and send it!
sorry for all the pics , they might be a little over 640x480...my feet were probably dirty too...
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heres the one i said i would tiller through. the picture up top is the front , obviously. here it is on the side/belly area...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/Tradgang%202010-2011%20Swap%20Bow%20Osage/P1170836.jpg)
sorry for the edit , i was accidentally clicking things on PB , and got messed up.
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Who ever gets Steve's bow is in for a real treat! John saw the bow that Steve made for me last year, so just ask him.
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Hova I would say take Joe's advice about keeping the pie shape on the osage. I did not know or think about it and my belly was a lot wider then my back on one limb and it took me some time to get it filed down. that is the only thing I would say. You are coming along pretty good. I better get a move on and get mine closer to being done.
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Your welcome, Roy. I noticed that you shoot it a heck of a lot better than I did! And I will seek out advice on using bamboo.
Stan :wavey:
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kelly : i havent seen what joe says. we're off to the inlaws , so ill bbl.
the bow does have a bit of natural trapping that i was planning on leaving. i dont know if it was from splitting or me working it down , but its kind of like... /~~~~\\ the narrow end being the back.
keep at it fellers! im getting a burr on my scraper and some gloves....
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Got the finish on my bow today. Handle wrap, a little ink, and some pics and then she's on her way to .......
Probably be midweek.
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Doh.... looks like I'm starting over again. Misread my checklist and tillered to 15# under the desired weight. Gonna have to kick myself for the rest of the week over this one.
Adam
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Outstanding John hope to see some pics soon.
Inuumarue sorry to hear about that you still got plenty of time unless you build bows as slow as I do.
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Originally posted by vanillabear?:
I was thinkin about starting a bow today, but then I realized that it was only the 19th.....I guess I should probably let the board season a while longer. Maybe I'll just have a nap and see if I can dream up a bow.
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My father use to say my motto was "Never do today what you can put off till tomorrow."
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I did a second heat treatment on my trade bow tonight. I need to make a string just for it so I can get it to full brace height.
It is a fully trapped, pecan, bend in the handle mollie with osage tip overlays and about 1.5" of reflex before this second treatment. Close to two inches wide and 56" long. I plan to put rattle snake skins on the back and stain the trapped sides with a local plant the Indians use to use called Bloodroot. I may heat treat it one more time before I'm done.
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(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/132.jpg)
hickory backed ipe with a bloodwood powerlam and zebra handle and tips. I glued the tips on tonite - now the tricky part - finishing the tiller - my last r/d gave me fits sooooooooooo...........
(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z388/eagleone4/133.jpg)
I glued up another one today just to be safe
Bamboo backed ipe- bloodwood powerlam and cocobolo riser. I just lifted the tips a little on this one. Sorry about the mess-
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I'd say that's the most organized mess I've seen in a long time eagle... if you call that "mess" I would hate to hear what you would call my place.
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Real nice bows everyone....I put well over a 100 shots through mine yesterday morning and it was still 90deg.No way in the evening to shoot a bow here it's still a 100 at dark.I put 80 shots through it today and it puts them right were I'm lookin. Ruined one arrow yesterday and popped off one knocks. Killed another 3 knocks today...I gotta send it off before I ruin the rest..lol
Yesterday
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Today
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_0133Medium.jpg)
Kelly I'll let you know when it ships,Last week the wife had a lens replacement on her right eye and this week it's the left so that will be 3 days on the road.
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Well.. went through my (rather small) stash and it seems I'm down to my last hickory backing. Guess I'll send her through the drum sander tomorrow and hit the ground running. Here's to deadlines!
Adam
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Nice bow, Eagle, I agree with Goose on the mess... :saywhat: What mess?
Good shootin', West Texan. Hope the wife's surgery goes well. My bud is having that done this summer also.
Stan
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eagleone nice start you got there looking good.
WestTexan thanks nice shooter and I guess we need to add disclaimer stating we are not responsible for the knocks that get shoot off by any bow in this trade.
Better luck Inuumarue
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Eagle I really like the apparatus you use to clamp you limb tip overlays on with. Nice looking bow someone will be real happy.
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Yesterday was going well. (Nothing good ever starts with "was".) Had it on the short string and up to about 20" of draw @ 5# below weight. Bending very nice. I then I thought I heard something:
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308590625.JPG)
And being as we're up against the right side of the schedule already, I thought I'd try to fix it. I was able to get the failure out and make what I think would have been a good scarfed repair. I figured I'd just leave the smooth-on to dry for long enough at room temp instead of getting the oven out again. But then I figured I should at least add some heat:
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308590746.JPG)
But then I figured I'd do even better if I put a blanket over the whole thing. I stayed there in the shop because I was a little concerned about fire hazard, but nothing ever started smoking. I left the plastic mixing spoon in there as a cure indicator. Well, 500 watts and a blanket make for something that was a bit too hot. The plastic spoon was shriveled up into a little ball with hardened epoxy on the end. The joint looked good. Unfortunately the original lamination outside the clamped area separated in the heat.
So tonight we start over. In hindsight I'm not that happy with how I ground my boo backing. I had the edges feathering to nothing at a 2" width before glue-up, but the center definitely varied in thickness and became apparent when the bow was trimmed to shape. The area of the fracture was where the boo was noticeably thickest. I had a hard time believing people who said your backing could overpower your belly, but now I can't think of what else to point to.
Because of the impending deadline, I think I'm going to try again with the ipe/boo combo (but mill both sides of the boo this time - to heck with the nodes), but I'm also going to work on a hickory self bow as a backup to the backup.
I hope I don't end up with any college all-nighter flashbacks in the near future.
:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
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Ouch that hurts, but that's bow making. Hope it works out for you.
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It's not me it has to work out for, it's ****. If it was me I wouldn't care as much.
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Sorry for your problems! How wide is the bow? I have found that ipe likes to be fairly narrow...like 1 1/4" or less at the widest.
By grinding down both sides of the boo and removing the nodes you will eliminate the power fibers making the boo more likely to fail.
When you first thinned your boo did you cut it to shape first? This makes a big difference for the final outcome.
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It was 1-3/8 at the widest. You think I'd be better going even thinner then? I can do that.
I did not cut to shape before thinning, but quickly wished that I had. This next time I will.
I instinctively feel better about leaving the nodes on. But I thought I had read/seen more than once that it doesn't really matter. From there I jumped to the idea that it might make my life easier and less risky to have a nice, uniform backing. Maybe I'll stick with the instincts then after all.
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sorry to hear canopyboy. But you get to work on a new bow and you have time.
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David, 1 3/8 would be my max for BBI. If the limbs are getting too thin you can do your reduction from the sides of the limbs also.
Ipe is a very hard wood but I have fretted it and don't know why. On one bow I built(1" wide HBI)the fret went almost all the way through the ipe. I was shocked to see it.
Cut your boo to the profile you want and then thin it to 1/8" or less at the crown at the fades. From there you can taper it to the tips or leave it flat. Mine were always left flat at 1/8" from tip to tip.
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I just read the poorfolkbows.com bbi build-along which helps a bit too.
Just a risk you take when you try something for the first time. (Hence the hickory stave as a backup.) Of course now it will be my second time.
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Round 2 is all glued up and ready to start tillering.
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k258/matter_daddy/DSCN1835.jpg)
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I feel your pain David. My first BBI didn't turn out so well either, but it happened the other way around. I had an ever so slightly noticeable hinge near the bottom fade and fully intended on fixing it, but was excercising the limbs in between material removal when I notice the boo had cracked right on the hingy area. My Ipe over powered the boo and caused a crack, but I think I might save it? I raised the crack with a tootpick and mopped some Urac underneath it, then smoothed down the fiber sticking up and left a nice puddle of Urac over top. I sanded it down lightly without getting into the crack so as to leave plenty of Urac on top and just feathered it off at the edges. I'm going to add a short osage lam on the belly side from the fade out about 8-10" or so and feather that into the limb. Hopefully that will work? Dunno, never did this before.........so I guess I'll see what happens?
Tenbrook- Doesn't seem like your having such good luck with the Ipe either? Maybe we should start a self help group where we can all vent our frustrations? :mad: :laughing:
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I wanna join your club too semo.....
my bbi glue up from this weekend is no more...
boo popped off on a 12" section north of the power lam- I shoulda just reglued it down but i sanded everything off..
oh well- gotta get another slice of boo prepped
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Got my backing and core made, just a few more tweaks before I glue them up tomorrow.. Should have her roughed out by Thursday. Then the slow work starts.
Adam
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I walked in after a 2 hour elk hunt prep workout to find this arrived.
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/098.JPG)
I knew exactly what it was and about flipped a lid. Ask my wife. Despite my exhaustion, I just had to shoot it.
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/100.JPG)
I took one shot at my cardboard bow stuffed with plastic bags and prompty shot through it and busted one of my pickets in my fence :)
Went back to the flooded yard (2" of rain this morning) and shot the deer target 3 times.
She's super sweet and quiet. I am so thrilled. Thanks so much Jess. It is better than anything I could have hoped for!
And to top it off, I got this in the mail today too.
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/101.JPG)
Guess someone is telling me I might have a new elk bow!
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i will tell you what Bert Frelink told me- and he has built a bunch of bows- i shot an elb BBI of his for quite a while- i loved it.
he said- to always make sure the the taper on the ipe is very consistant- other wise the ipe WILL chrysall/fail.
so i geuss if the backing is inconsistant( like boo is at the nodes) then that is where the ipe is going to want to be thinner i geuss- and prone to failure.
this is where i defer to greater experience- and hope that some others chime in here- particularly Big Bert.
i have built probably six ipe bows now, all of them have been HBI, and all have survived.
some have had up to 3" of reflex glued into them and were only 55" long( with a 24" draw though)
but i swear by the revered gizmo, and go by what pat says about preparing hickory backings.
i glue all up with urac, i prep all with acetone, i scour all surfaces with a sawzall blade- i find the hacksaw blade not aggressive enough.
i dont like to use clamps, as i feel that they create high pressure areas- that will glue starve.
not saying they dont work- just saying what i use, that has worked for me- but i am a far cry from being an expert- say you know the definition of an expert;
ex- is a has been
spert- is a drip under pressure.
i geuss an airhose, or inner tube wrap form will work well.
but this is what i use.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1308634439.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1308634439.jpg)
reflex on one side. D/R on the other. clamp holes for heating and bending staves, and the short dowel rods for the stationary quality extra thick rubber bands.
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Please add me to group!!!
Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
I feel your pain David. My first BBI didn't turn out so well either, but it happened the other way around. I had an ever so slightly noticeable hinge near the bottom fade and fully intended on fixing it, but was excercising the limbs in between material removal when I notice the boo had cracked right on the hingy area. My Ipe over powered the boo and caused a crack, but I think I might save it? I raised the crack with a tootpick and mopped some Urac underneath it, then smoothed down the fiber sticking up and left a nice puddle of Urac over top. I sanded it down lightly without getting into the crack so as to leave plenty of Urac on top and just feathered it off at the edges. I'm going to add a short osage lam on the belly side from the fade out about 8-10" or so and feather that into the limb. Hopefully that will work? Dunno, never did this before.........so I guess I'll see what happens?
Tenbrook- Doesn't seem like your having such good luck with the Ipe either? Maybe we should start a self help group where we can all vent our frustrations? :mad: :laughing:
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Nice bow John glad to see them showing up.
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Dang guys! I had no idea there were so many BBI's all going south? I don't feel quite so bad about mine now. Thanks for the pick me up. :D
The only good thing is that I know exactly what caused my failure and I'm not left wondering about it. It was completely my fault and I won't make that same mistake again because it was turning out fine otherwise. :knothead:
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Sweet bow John!! Looks like an elk bow to me.
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Good for you John! :bigsmyl:
Now go get to shooting and get that get that thing ready for Elk. I'll be expecting some elk meat on the fire, LOL.
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Well....
I didn't get my grip/rest finished and I'm leaving on a 5 day motorcycle trip to Dawson City, YT Wednesday morning so it looks like I won't get it shipped till next Monday.
Put me on hold Kelly.... :knothead:
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Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Dang guys! I had no idea there were so many BBI's all going south? I don't feel quite so bad about mine now. Thanks for the pick me up. :D
The only good thing is that I know exactly what caused my failure and I'm not left wondering about it. It was completely my fault and I won't make that same mistake again because it was turning out fine otherwise. :knothead:
Chris - Let's consider the group started. It looks like we have several good members to kick it off with already.
I'm not sure I know "exactly what caused my failure," but I've got an idea. Last night I got my new boo backing cut, ground, and ready to glue up. The thickness is much more uniform, and much thinner. Since I had a little better idea of the thickness I was going to need, I think the ipe is closer to final dimensions to start with. I also cut a slight taper into its thickness as well. I think tonight I'll be able to glue up round 2.
Cheers! :coffee: (Where's the beer mug graemlin?) :dunno:
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John your one lucky guy!As soon as I saw the box in the picture I knew what you had.I shot my Jess Stuart bow
(from last years swap) just last night.I cant put it down.Jess builds one awsum bow!
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AKmud got it thanks.
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Great work on the bows everyone! I just might have to throw my name in the hat for next year since I seem to have recently gotten the bow building bug :archer2:
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Originally posted by canopyboy:
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Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Dang guys! I had no idea there were so many BBI's all going south? I don't feel quite so bad about mine now. Thanks for the pick me up. :D
The only good thing is that I know exactly what caused my failure and I'm not left wondering about it. It was completely my fault and I won't make that same mistake again because it was turning out fine otherwise. :knothead:
Chris - Let's consider the group started. It looks like we have several good members to kick it off with already.
I'm not sure I know "exactly what caused my failure," but I've got an idea. Last night I got my new boo backing cut, ground, and ready to glue up. The thickness is much more uniform, and much thinner. Since I had a little better idea of the thickness I was going to need, I think the ipe is closer to final dimensions to start with. I also cut a slight taper into its thickness as well. I think tonight I'll be able to glue up round 2.
Cheers! :knothead:
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John glad it showed up okay and you are happy with it. Hope it serves you well for years to come. Congrats and good luck on the elk tag.
Scottm thanks for the kind words and I am very happy your are enjoying you bow, I know I certainly have enjoyed the one I received form you. The bow swap is a great deal of fun and I would encourage anyone to join in the fun.
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What was said about ipe wanting to fail where you had an uneven taper made a little sense. It did fail where the boo was thickest, which also means where ipe was thinnest. Regardless, I think I'm better off now.
I should check the thickness with calipers, but I'm pretty sure I'm under .180, maybe close to .125 at the handle and what seems to be crazy thin near the tips. I used the belt sander method, and kept working the boo over it until the thickness was a smooth, even transition to the tips. Not sure how a person would do any kind if tapering jigs for bamboo backing. The nodes are really not even enough to allow that and you'd have to support in between and keep from rolling all at the same time. Being an engineer, I'm sure there's a way. But I doubt it's worth it unless you're selling them in large quantities.
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I'm not in this Trad Bow Trade (when it started i was such a Newbie I was much to nervous about the idea and the deadline) but I will say this...I have a BBI that I' am about ready to get ready for glue up BUT now you guys have me quite nervous about the idea :dunno:
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Well, I don't think there are any honest bowyers out there that would tell you that they got where they were without a lot partial if not complete failures along the way. So give it a go. My first BBI has now failed, but I'm ready to make the second one succeed. And I have enough to make a third just in case....
The best part about this forum is the ability to share and learn from the mistakes of others. Think of what you've read as a head start knowing what can go wrong instead of something to be discouraged by.
Of course, maybe the last couple weeks of a bow swap isn't the best time to try something new for the first time. But then again, sometimes the best time is the present.
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Lee I think if you do a straight profile and add some glued in reflex by raising the tips you won't have any problem. It's just another bow wood and it will tiller just like all the rest if you pay attention. Use the gizmo to get a nice smooth pretty arc and you'll have yourself a firecracker! I screwed mine up because I got in a hurry and didn't pay attention to a minor detail, it really wasn't the Ipe or the bamboo's fault.
We better continue this discussion in a different thread and stop busting up the Trade Bow section. Don't want to stray this too far off course. I'll start a seperate thread just for this discussion.
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My bad, and good point...carry on folks, GREAT BOWS!
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my bow swap bow will ship in 2 days i performed the recommended fixes made by mr pat. and stiks and strings. if y'all want to see the bow there is an entire bow build from me here at the bowyers bench on this 2 piece bow. ive also written a letter by hand to accompany this bow for my recipient, for its care, brace height, what arrows to shoot from it and specific lenght, weight of broadheads/field points, and the size fletches to use. i will also include an example of the arrows. i also in the letter, instructed my recipient in the point of aim@ 20 yrds to make ease of adjustment in shooting this bow. it is not centershot. i hope my recipient likes this bow.mr pat and stiks have also witnessed me shooting this bow, i would hope to think that they thought that i shot it well. it is a quiet bow and should give my recipient many yrs of service. may the gods bring you luck and the many of harvest with it r.v.
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broketooth -- you took all the fun out of it for the recipient! It's like you're sending a cheat sheet.
:archer:
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Nice elk hunting bow John! Where in CO and when will you be hunting? I found out this past weekend that I will be hunting in the San Juan Mountains between 9/2 and 9/10. I'll only have a $351 cow tag with me this time. My first trip in '06 I had a bull/ either sex $550 tag.
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Well Ruddy I know *********** is going to love your bow if it is like your take down. How have you been?
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doin ok here kelly, just have had my hands full if ya know what i mean. canopyboy, the bow i made is not an easy bow to shoot. it does draw smooth, however, aiding my recipient in its use will take the frustration out of it and make it more fun to shoot
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Broketooth, I was only kidding. I think it is awesome that you're taking the time to do all that. I can see how (especially if it's a finicky bow) a person could get frustrated trying to get everything matched to the bow and as a result not fully enjoy what it has to offer. My hat's off to you, sir.
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was hoping to get some time in this afternoon , but i had to go to NY , and just got back a little bit ago. going to wire the garage this weekend and put in the 15k btu a/c unit (forr the 200sq ft room) , and get to it.
three pages and no pics, youre all fired...
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Mine is in the make up room gettin it's game face on. A little more finish work, a handle wrap, serve the string, and add some furry silencers and it should be ready to ship. A couple pics of it's current status ....
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/sddorale/blackratsnakebow001.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/sddorale/blackratsnakebow003.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu219/sddorale/blackratsnakebow002-1.jpg)
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Nice work vanillabear!
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vanillabear, gorgeous bow...what are the dimensions (length, width at handle/fades, etc) Dandy, dandy workmanship Sir!
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Getting the tiller on mine moving. still on the long string but making careful progress. Kids go to camp next week so will have lots of shop time to finish it up.
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Vanillabear, beautiful bow!!! Are those skins naturally that dark or did you do something to enhance the color? I really like the look....Dan
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dang Scott , i sure do like the look of my bow lol
seriously though its beautiful , someones gonna be happy
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I just returned from Post Office. My trade bow is on its way. Hope that the 1234566789012???? enjoys it.
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Thanks guys.
Lee, it's about 67" ntn and around 1 5/8" at the fades. The taper starts at like 16" or maybe a little more from the tips. Handle is about 1" wide.
Dan, this skin was pretty dark to begin with. I think it might be a black rat snake skin. I did dye the back of the bow black before I glued it down, but didn't do anything to the skin itself.
Thanks Ken, but be careful what you wish for..... this just might be your bow......then again......
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Thanks Vanillabear! I think I am gonna layout a real nice osage stave with the same dimensions...LOVE that profile!
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I'm almost done, started to apply the first coat of the finish. Will send it this weekend.
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Backup bow is ready for the short string tonight. Things went way faster than with the original, and I think it will be a better bow for **** in the long run anyhow.
vanilla -- that black color and skin and the profile are awesome together. I've got my fingers crossed.
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That is a lovely bow vanilla. And we are slowly creeping up the number of sent and received bows.
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Hey! My name has four stars in it! :jumper:
I worked on getting both limbs bending evenly tonite after the second heat treatment and a chance to rehydrate. (to self...Bona, take some pictures tomorrow!)
I heard some cracking tonight while exercising the limbs between scraping but I see no splinters or fretting. Has anyone ever had this experience?
Bona
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Dave has four letters, so does Andy, John, Jeff, etc, etc... :wavey:
Every time I hear cracking I eventually find it. So far, if it's been hard to find at first, it's a belly fret that shows up clearly after working a bit more. But maybe someone else has had better experiences like what you describe. :dunno:
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Bona, Its never good when a bow starts talking to you. However if you have bark or sinew on for backing it can sometimes make those ticking nioses that always send you heart into overdrive. :pray:
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Bona,
Sand it really well. String it up and maybe even partially draw it with a stick. Then run a cotton ball in all directions all over it. You'll find any potential issues.
Good luck.
The finish has cured on my bow. I have to do a handle wrap and then it is off to ****. Hmmm 4 letters...maybe.
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Awww! Now you guys are just teasing me! :)
It's a selfbow so any ticks is all wood. No I really don't like it when they "talk" like this to me. I get ticking noises like this from my kids when I ask them to work.
I will try your suggestion John, thanks.
I have a back up plan though.
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my bend handle board bow spit and sputtered while tillering , but has yet to show any signs of anything...i just figured that was the wood tryin to get to know me...
none of the ones that broke for me , talked. wouldnt you be creaky if you bent that much after not? and i always hear cracking when im in the woods...
gonna get some time saturday night and sunday to work it. got the clamp i need , so it should be floor tillered , and at least halfway to weight/draw ... couple hours a night here and there and ill be shipping on the 6th hopefully...
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Well, tiller on mine is far from perfect, but it should be shootable. I've gotta another inch or so to go and stay at weight. In all likelyhood my recipient might have to settle for a few pounds light (or increase their draw a bit.)
If there was more time, I'd probably start over. But I think I'm already on the verge of sleeping on the couch as it is. My better half has a master bathroom that is 98% done but on hold. She's starting to use the word "Mistress" to describe this bow. And that's not a word that's ever good to hear your wife say.
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Went shooting my trade bow yesterday and after half an hour something didn't feel right. So I had to rework the grip a little bit. Went shooting again and now everything feels ok.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0896.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0897.jpg)
Started to reapply the finish. Still a few more coats to go but she will be ready to ship until Monday.
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beautiful handle andy- what type of a.wood is that??
i see you have your arrow contact area directly above the deepest part of the grip. i have read about that in adcocks paperwork. the theory made sense- now for the first time i can see the results of it.
very, very nice.
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Wow that is a beauty and looks like a shooter too Andy- there will be another happy TGer when they get your bow.
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Great looking bows everyone. This thread is going to get very busy in the next few weeks. :bigsmyl:
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Just got a call from the store saying there is a long tube waiting for me, i can hardly wait to get there. Will post more tonight or tomorrow morning.
Time to make the drive in and see what i got :bigsmyl:
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Very nice bow Andy.
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kelly i got mine all done i cant get this thing to post pic s when girl friend gets here ill try again put about 200 arrows thru it it s a charchetr osage flat bow just finishing up the leather lace i think ****** gonna like it but after shootin it in and all seems im about 5 # under the wt i wanted shippin it out monday am brock
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Nice outfit there Andy, groups look tight!
I love that riser too, the bottom part of the grip looks like two big spooky eyes lookin at me. That's cool. :thumbsup:
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Nice bow Andy,
Diamondback59 You know **** is going to love it. Marked you as shipping on Monday let me know if that falls through.
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Nice bow, Andy.
There's another 4 * name.
:biglaugh:
Stan
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Kelly... Looking at the track from the stands through my binoculars, it appears the field is bunching up at the far turn! How many finished bows are accounted for, i.e. they're finished and being shipped, been shipped or have arrived? How many left? Still can't believe the size of this effort, but it seems to be coming together.
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Dick Ol' Kelly got his handsful for sure. Last year We had 42 bows and I thought that was a handful, LOL
Kelly jumped in to help me out this year and I tell you I don't think he realizes how much help it was. Next year Me and Kelly will have to split the list cause I know he's getting in and will be building and I can't leave him with all the work.
Hats off to you Kelly!
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definitely getting exciting! I keep waiting and watching the mail. So far only bills and junk. I was iin two swaps this year and am waiting on two bows, plus my neighbor chris was in on this swap so I'm waiting to shoot his two. This is w hy I signed up. I love this part. One day you walk in the door and whammy! There's a new bow just for you from a fellow bowyer. Someone who shares a common bond and hobby. You get to see there style and craftmanship. How they do things. Very cool.
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Watching and waiting for the long shipping tube is the exciting part. I have already shipped and received my bow so all I can do is watch the fine looking bows being built, and wait for next years swap.
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Funny you should ask Dick, I was just color coding my spreadsheet. Green for confirmed And yellow for shipped not received and just white for all others.
So I got 4 bows shipped (one of those should have made it already, 24 confirmed received and at least 2 bow done the bowyer just shooting it in a little.
Oh this is not all that bad, the hardest part was the adding all the names, drawing and sending out the info. Now I just sit back and watch for completed bows, sent and receive. Heck I keep the spread sheet open so when I hop on here and get a PM, or see on in the thread being shipped I just add those dates.
But yes Dick I think they is a mad dash in the shops this weekend.
:)
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man Kelly your alot more organized than I was last year. I had four or five note book sheets with notes and scribbles and everything in between.
Lost my my notepad once and panicked but it turned up. LOL
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Kelly and Kriss, you guys are doing a jam up job with the TG Bow Trade...but so are all the participants!
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I've been trying to make a good R/D all wood bow. I made a light weight one(around 30 pounds) that my step son is shooting. I like it too! I've learned a few things by screwing up a couple and I'm hoping the one I have glued up now will get finished this week and be acceptable.
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Hi Gang, I recieved a great looking bbo from ?? All i have is his name and not his screen name. Maybe you can help me out Kelly or Kris ? It's 62" 45@28 just got done shooting it and man it is smooth and shoot fast !!
Pics to come
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Just waiting for the paint to dry....
(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg197/joe2006vn/tradebow/TradeBowPaint.jpg)
Oh....and then I have to make up a new string. Tick tock tick tock :D
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You know, I think I like this exceptional trade (kudos to Kris and Kelly) :thumbsup: because I get to see so many new bowyers test their wings, a bit. When I used to run I loved getting stuck in a heat with the fastest feet because I always ran with better form an put up better times. This venture seems similar.
Congratulations to all who have successfully completed their bows, and best wishes to those still working. There's so many factors that can keep a guy/gal from finishing on time, and most are much more important than a bow. Keep that in mind and enjoy the process. Lastly, if you drew my name, don't worry about a thing. I'm easy to please and am excited to see whatever your honest efforts produce, even if its a yardstick with a kite string attached. :) It's a journey, not a destination.
Regards,
Curt
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Here's my swap bow ready to ship to .....
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/2011TGSwap05.jpg)
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/2011TGSwap06.jpg)
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/2011TGSwap07.jpg)
(http://hedgerowselfbows.webs.com/photos/General-Photos/2011TGSwap08.jpg)
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Great lookking bow John ! Someone is going to be very happy !!
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Hey 4est do you have a buildalong for that kite string yardstick? :biglaugh:
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Hey, Goose...don't laugh. :) I can remember shooting dowels across my dad's woodshop into a cardboard box using two or three yard sticks taped together and strung up with kite string. Those flying dowels would scare the poop out of the cats...and my dad, too, if he happened to walk into the line of fire :scared:
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Nice bow, John! Osage I presume? Glad I learned to shoot right handed while shooting in the bow I sent Roy.
Oh, rats! There's 5 .s in the name.....
Stan
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Nice work Johan and John!We've sure seen alot of beautiful bows this swap.Ive enjoyed it.
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I hear ya 4est. This is a great swap.
For those that don't know I cut my teeth on board bows via 4est's great build along. I haven't built as many bows as alot guys here but the bench has definetly helped me to raise the bar on my bow making and every bow I build is better than the last.
Johan I hear ya on the tick tock LOL I had to chase a ring on another stave today. I have one finished but just not satisfied with how it shoots so I put it the corner to figure out later. I pulled a great osage stave out of the stash and roughed it out today. Should be shooting it this weekend. Got it on the long string today and will have it tillered and finished. Good thing I got a long weekend next weekend.
Stiks
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I hear ya 4est. This is a great swap.
For those that don't know I cut my teeth on board bows via 4est's great build along. I haven't built as many bows as alot guys here but the bench has definetly helped me to raise the bar on my bow making and every bow I build is better than the last.
Johan I hear ya on the tick tock LOL I had to chase a ring on another stave today. I have one finished but just not satisfied with how it shoots so I put it the corner to figure out later. I pulled a great osage stave out of the stash and roughed it out today. Should be shooting it this weekend. Got it on the long string today and will have it tillered and finished. Good thing I got a long weekend next weekend.
Stiks
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My trade bow has been tillered and shooting for about three months, but getting the finish right is has given me fits; can’t remember a bow giving me this much trouble before. Still have another week though and I’m getting good at the spray-on and then sand off….brush-on and then sand off…………and the rub-on and then rub/sand off.….
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
If the latest finish comes out right (and it looks good so far) it will be in the mail later this week.
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spray on sand off, wipe on wipe off, I'm sure glad I've NEVER had to do that! :banghead:
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Ah yes, the karate kid finish method. Have tried it myself.
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Nice looking stick Johan and John. Let me know when they are shipped.
So I have 26 received, 3 mailed, and 2 waiting to be shipped.
Stiks as long as my computer does not crash I am fine if it does, I am throwing in the towel lol
The good thing about the spread sheet is all I have to do next year is delete the ones who do not enter and add the new guys. Oh and just have everyone confirm their info. I agree my part is not very hard, I get to just watch all these wonderful bows. Although knowing none are mine is very hard, oh well. Come on January 2012 sign up. :)
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Well, 5 days and 1200 miles on my motorcycle with my bride has been a great vacation! Now, back to the task at hand I guess. :) Time to get that handle/rest finished and ship 'er off!
BTW...We have a note from the post office describing a package waiting for pick up as a "long white tube"...... :pray: :biglaugh:
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My swap bow is almost ready to go in the mail. Thanks to Greg who graciously sprayed an epoxy finish for me today. I filled the grain with tru-oil and sanded it down in prep for the epoxy finish. I'm pleased with how it turned out. I'll put a few more finished photos up once I get the rest and string on it.
Golden Rain veneer turned out nice. I'm going to build myself one with this stuff!
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/39696869.jpg)
Homemade actionwood, lots of work and enough smooth-on to glue up 2 complete bows went into this riser.
(http://i1046.photobucket.com/albums/b469/LFNJR/40d89400.jpg)
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Ok, she's being finished. Had to stop the tiller short of perfect as she was falling under weight. But she shoots well. My draw is normally a bit longer, but I tried several different arrows at 20yd, and it appears she likes pink. (Although they all launched smoothly and hit hard.)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1309172045.JPG)
Barring something tragic, looks like I'll make it on time after all.
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Very good work, Lane! It looks like you did an excellent job on that riser. I counted somewhere around 23 lams in that thing! I bet it shoots as good as it looks.
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Beautiful job Lane!
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great lookin bows everyone! i myself got a very late start, but i'm about 85% done. got to sand it smooth and appoy a finish. i should have just enough time. here are a couple pics.
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/Copyoftradebow001.jpg)
the riser is brown ebony and curly maple.
(http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss60/eman614/tradebow003.jpg)
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Those are some great looking bows, nice job guys. I sent mine off today, hopefully it will make it until the deadline. Here are some pictures of the finished bow...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0905.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0912.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0913.jpg)
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Wow, you guys are sure putting out some beautiful bows, I'd be proud to give any of them a home.....Dan
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finished shaping the one i'm shipping today. a little tillering tomorrow then sand and finish and it should be ready to ship friday if i keep on track.
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WOW!! there are some really nice bows ready or almost ready to ship. I hate to check in on this thread I want everyone I see. I know it wrong to covet but man there are some nice ones. Kinda of glad I haven't received mine yet each one I see looks better than the last one.
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well things are heating up now. I know what you mean Jess, I thought about seeing if I could make about 80 bows between OCT when I get home and next July so I could just pick all the names for myself. :)
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Im still watching the porch Myself and man im excited!Beautiful work all!
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K30Bowfisher, that bow is awesome Dude.
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Those are some really nice looking bows guys. I've got to get back to my trade bow and get it done.
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Well its finally ready to be shipped came out great right around 50lbs @ 2?. This bows name is "The Beginning of an Obsession" because it is the first glass bow that I have finished and the first one that is a good shooter. It has some character to! I cannot not wait to start my next bow as soon as possible! I hope my recipient likes it cause its not the most flashiest it just has a lot of Ohio maple in it.
(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/6884/img7960or.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/img7960or.jpg/)
(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/3628/img7955f.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/img7955f.jpg/)
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Got home from work just now and was able to open a long white PVC tube that contained a BEAUTIFUL bow! I am at a loss for words.... I haven't been able to put any arrows through it yet, but I did string it up briefly. It looks and feels terrific and I can't wait to let some sticks loose with it!
The Hat Creek "Wasapa" is beautiful Caleb, thank you and I'll post pics soon! (I have to get my bow shipped ASAP!).
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woooo weeeee some real dandies fellas.
I gota get mine packed up and shipped. Working 6 days a week doesn't leave alot of time.
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Nice job waldo!AKmud, Caleb must have gotten our addresses mixed up.Just go ahead and forward that bow to me and it will be all straightened out.LOL!! :bigsmyl:
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Too many names and bows to mention in the last 4 pages I just read through since the last time I checked in so I'll just praise everybody all at once.
Very Nice Looking Sticks Gentleman and Lady!!
Looks like everybody put their best foot forward on this Bow Swap and thanks to Kelly and Kris for running show! :thumbsup: :clapper:
Lots of talent frequent these pages and all the bows are beautiful in their own way, I'd be proud to own any of them.
Mine is in the final finishing stages and that's all I will say cause I don't want to jinx myself.
Kelly I'm sending you a PM shortly.
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I would Scott, but I already scratched your name out and put mine on it! :)
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Ok 28 bows received, I have 3 in the mail. Swissbow, Diamondback59 and Waldo320 are the ones I am tracking that are in the hands of the postal service.
For those that have not received a bow you have a 5.5% chance that one of these bows are yours. :)
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I just got my grip/rest finished.... Gotta check my PM's to see how to spell my recipient's name! :)
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Originally posted by KellyG:
Ok 28 bows received, I have 3 in the mail. Swissbow, Diamondback59 and Waldo320 are the ones I am tracking that are in the hands of the postal service.
For those that have not received a bow you have a 5.5% chance that one of these bows are yours. :)
That's better odds than playing the lottery........I'll take it! :saywhat: :thumbsup:
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my trade bow shipped via u.p.s. as of 12:30 pm today.i truly hope my recipient likes my work. it should arrive at his doorstep thursday. kelly if you want the tracking # send me a pm. rv
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AKmud, my name's easy to spell, it's another one of those 4 letter words....
;) S-t-a-n
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Well I have you marked as sent ruddy, I can't wait to for **** to get it so they can put up pics of the bow.
So now that is 4 bows in the mail giving you a 7% chance that one of the four is your bow. :)
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hey kelly just ckecked on mine it s set to arrive thursday am haha got a seggustion for the next years bulid we start oct 1 sign up draw name s the 15 gives us a extra 3 mo to work on em lol somtimes my damn job just gives me no lee way and i bet a bunch a other guys will agree still havent recived mine im watchin for it brock
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I Hear ya Brock, I'm working 6 days a week every week. I don't think many guys would be building during hunting season though. LOL
Stiks
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I'll be getting the one I'm supposed to make done in a few days. Somebody, (it's a suprise) is getting Maddog's first ever warf bow. I'll marked it as such too. I've made the limbs, but the riser is that of an old compound. O ne of those jobs you can use a stabilizer, a reel, mount sights, use onea'em fancy adjustabale rests, etc. One day when I'm famous it'll be worth something maybe.
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Sounds like a cool set up Mike. Can't wait to see some pics.
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Well I know of one more being shipped so that is 5 in the mail so you have 9% chance of getting your bow soon. there are 55 of you who have not gotten your bows yet. And that should be down to 50 by the end of the week.
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I'm addressing my tube right now and my lovely bride will be sending it off in the AM. :)
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ok AK I will make you as shipped. So that will be 6 in the mail odds are getting better all the time. Takes us up to 11% chance of one of these bows belonging to you.
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Well i am calling it done, should ship out Thursday. 60" 50 @ 28 sinew backed Osage,prairie rattler skins and accents. I hope my receipent enjoys it as much as i enjoyed building it.
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Should am glad I got to see that bow first hand at the Classic Kerry. The feller getting that is getting one fine stick from one fine feller for sure.
Stiks
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wow, nice idea- the snakeskin on the handle- belly side.
never seen that before.
nice!!!!
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What a fine looking stick you put out there kerry.
I marked you as shipped on the 30 Jun. Let me know if it falls through. And we are flying through the bows now.
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Boy o boy you fellers sure are makin some fine bows!
Kerry, I love the snake skin on belly of the handle, you have a very good eye.
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Well I just taped up the te tube that my trade bow is in and realized I didn't take a pic or the finished bow :banghead: Sorry.
It should get shipped off to..... before the end of the week. Kelly I'll let you know if I don't make it to post office.
Thanks David
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Will do david. I am sure **** will post tons of pics once it gets there.
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Kerry, very nice work.
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I've been without internet for almost two days. I did have time to work on my bow though. Everything was going well and I was taking it slow and then the rasp took a bigger bite than it should and I developed a hinge while sanding out the gouged area. I think I got it worked out slightly less than perfect but the weight was kind of light. I ended up cutting an inch or so off both ends and that helped.
I cut the shelf in and it's ready to try some shooting when I get back to it. I hope I can salvage this one as the time to start over is kind of late.
I just found out that I'm NOT getting laid off as the State of MN is close to shutting down with our legislature not getting a budget done by the 30th. I'm one of the lucky few deemed "critical" so I will be working even if there is a shut down.
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I have to go with my back up plan. BBO with gemsbok horn belly. Cross your fingers. Not going to ship on the deadline though.
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WOW! I've been out of town the last couple days so haven't been able to check in. Lots of bows being completed these days and I'm starting to feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas morning. Great work everyone!
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My bow will be shipped tomorrow :)
Awesome work everyone!
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I failed on my BBI...crappy glue lines so I set it aside to figure out later. I also went with plan B like so many others. I had an osage stave that was partially worked just sitting on my bench waiting for some attention. Spent the last three days tilllering and shooting it in. Final sanding spraying the finish and playing dress up starts tomorrow hopefully will get her in the mail on Saturday....talk about cuttin it close but I am prayerful that all goes to plan
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Bona Don't worry about the ship date I know your good. Thanks for posting and letting us know.
Nate I hear ya about cutting it close, LOL
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Well John I marked you as shipped and I got a PM of another one shipped. So that is 8 in the mail that makes it a 15% chance of you getting a bow soon.
Bona yes thanks for the heads up. On the 9th I will shoot out PMs to all I know who's bows will ship late. There are a few who thought they were going to be but most have told me they would make it. I ask that if you know that you are going to not make the dead line let me know in a PM or on here or stiks.
And Bona I bet **** would wait till Christmas to get a horn belly bow.
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I feel better that I'm not the only one. Trying to salvage plan B right now. I have a plan C forming in the wings, but I think I may not need it after all.
I'd feel better if it was still May.
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i put the first coat of finish on mine last night. now its got to dry for a couple days, so i can sign it and put another coat of finish on it. it should be ready to go by monday or tuesday.
kellyg, i'll let you know when it goes out.
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Hey Dudes and Dudettes -
I have some string material on the way and should get "wutzizname's" bow shipped by the deadline.
If I get real adventuresome and my youngest will help, I will try to get some pics up in a week or so.
va
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Some real fine bows, everybody haas done good!
Finally got the finish looking decent, but mine will be late, it will not ship until Saturday or Tuesday.
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I must admit the excitement is killing me :)
I finished mine yesterday so now just need to stick it in the tube and get it posted. I was planning to finished several days back but had to redo a coat or two of paint...
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Kelly is right, Bona. Don't feel too pressured, folks'll wait.
Stan ;)
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South Africa! Wow Johan... whats it cost to send a bow to the U.S.?
Ohio Maple? Waldo,,, I could stand that.
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Ok, things are looking up.
First, I went back and read the rules. Ship by July 9th, 30 day grace period. Right now it's looking like July 9th should be easy.
Second, while the first one got scrapped, and the second one needed a "fix" that included salvaging the boo off the first one, we are finally tillered, shot-in and ready to finish.
Here she is at full draw (I needed someone with a little shorter draw length....):
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I have about 80 arrows through her now. I can't believe that I made a bow that shoots that smooth, that fast, or most importantly hits that close to where I'm aiming -- even at a short draw. (Heck, maybe I should shorten up my draw. :confused: )
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looks good CB
I would love to see a close up of the fades. How you did your boo. It does not look like it goes all the way up the handle in those pics, but faded part of the way up it. Looks good
Just let me know when you ship,
Kelly
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@osagetree No idee YET. I'm packaging it tomorrow and then I'll go knocking on the door of DHL :)
The way I see it shipping will cost me faaar too much BUT just sitting here watching the trade every year without taking part is too much for a sane man to bear :D
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Hi Johan, I know exactly what you mean. After I sent away my swap bow last year I felt like 'holy sh.., that's to expensive to ship a bow that far'. But it's way to much fun not to participate...
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I am totally JACKED...shes done. Twisting up a new string right now and she will definitely be in the mail tomorrow. Kelly, I will let you know if I do not get it sent....might take a little doing to get the packaging I need.
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I got mine bandaged up and shooting again, so i'll post some pre-finished pics. This bow is the FIFTH attempt for my recipient. Each one had one issue or another. This was my most earnest effort, so hopefully it lasts for whoever it goes to. Also, after spending so much on 4 previous pieces of fire wood, I had to keep it simple and try to make her beautiful through her fit and finish. Here are some teaser pics. I'll post pics of the repair in my "how would YOU fix this?" thread.
Red oak board bow, with walnut accents. She's pulling in the low 40's right now, but that may be just what she chooses to be. We'll see how she does after I shoot her a couple hundred more times. These are pre-finished pics, i'll hopefully be posting finished pics after this weekend.
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/IMG_0041.jpg)
I tried paying extra special attention to grain on this bow. I used pieces from random parts of the bow to build it up, and got pretty darn close to making it look like it was one resawn piece:
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Here she is strung up with her band aid:
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I'm not in this swap Fish n chicks but after seeing your work I sure as heck wish I was!!! Those nocks ROCK! I need to try those on my next recurve...WOW!
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Here it is....
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My bow has been shipped my recipient should receive it mid next week!
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Some killer bows being posted.......I got mine shipped mid week. Sure hope **** likes it. It should show up tomorrow sometime at your door step.
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im going to spend saturday night and as much sunday as i can . 6 day work week is horrible for bow building. i need to go back to being retired.
dont want to rush it , as i probably wont ever have this osage opportunity again.
thank goodness for a 30 day grace. once i ship this years , im going to go get a bunch of material and glue up a bunch of blanks for next years swap.
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Originally posted by fish n chicks:
I had to keep it simple and try to make her beautiful through her fit and finish.
Fish,
You just nailed the secret to building a fine bow. I really like the way it looks.
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I agree nice nock work there fish! Sometimes I find it hard to match both tips when trying to get too fancy.
I think it would be very special to get a bow from South Africa or Switzerland... Someone's gett'n lucky IMO!
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The bows look good guys can't wait until the next swap
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Okay guys... sorry for such a delay. I received my bow last week. I was out of town on business, then this week was bell to bell.
Here it is:
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VERY NICE! I likey! Thank you Shawn. Awesome work. the kids love the snake skin.
And he must of seen my fingers in some of my other post, because the crooked limb looks like my crooked fingers...LOL..
Again thank you. I have only shot it a few times, but seems real nice. I have never owned or shot a stick bow before.. so this is cool.
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And yes, I am working on my bow. Unfortunately, it was a very long and cold winter and my fingers froze up. I have posted before I have severe arthritis.. which I can usually keep in check, but when it stays as cold as it did this year, I just could not get out to work on anything.
We even got snow the first week of June! Unreal. But now 4 weeks later, we are in the 100's! Loving it and the fingers are starting to cooperate with me.
So out to the shed and this is what I got so far:
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Got my riser glued up and ready for form.. cut and grind ed my lams.. and got the fiberglass in the mail a couple of weeks ago. So patience boys... I will most likely need to use a part of that "grace" period you posted. But will get it done! Hope to have it in the form this week!
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Mark me as received. I got my bow in the mail yesterday from Brock Johnson (Diamondback59. It's a very nice Osage selfbow. I will post pictures when I get a little more time.
Thanks Brock.
Mark
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:notworthy: Some beautiful bows, folks!
Fish, those are definitely some sharp nocks and the walnut looks great with the red oak.
I agree with Osage Tree, it would be special to receive a bow from South Afric or Switzerland.
Beautiful bows.
:archer2:
Stan
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Wow 30 bows received, 8 in the mail. So we have 53 bowyer waiting on bows and you have a 15% chance that one of theses 8 are yours.
soopernate and waldo got you as shipped. Man the bows are coming and going. I think this swap might save the US post office :) All the bows are look great. I order of cant waits
1) TO BE HOME WITH THE WIFE AND KIDS
2) hunting deer
3) Christmas (I am a big kid)
4) 2012 bowswap :)
the first one is miles ahead though
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hiya kelly.
mine is packaged, and is shipping out tomorrow.
our national postal strike is over- so all should go smoothly.
thanks
wayne
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Got my bow bending to about 8" tonight and did a little string alignment.
Back at her tomorrow.
Bradford, That riser is awesome! I bet the finished bow is gonna be real sweet.
Fish, Those nocks are great! You have some serious skill for detail bud. How about a pic of the back side of them.
Stiks
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Got you as shipped now Fujimo so that puts us at 9 in the mail an all time high for bows being shipped. I think I may get a little higher.
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Originally posted by KellyG:
I think this swap might save the US post office :)
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i sure wish my recipient recieved the bow i sent. im beside myself with anticipation that he recieved my package of goodies :pray:
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Mine is officially gone...just mailed it insured about an hour ago. Not sure if it was already counted or not.
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yep it was Soopernate :) I know I jump the gun a little.
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Got my bow a little bit ago!! Thanks scrub buck!! always wanted a self bow and will get pics. before long got to go shoot it now!!!!
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Congratulations Hootsbow shot her in the give us some I candy.
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Kelly, I think you have already got me marked as shipped but my trade bow is in the mail. Should be there by the end of the week.
Thanks David
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Hunting Javelina with a Swap Bow…
Gosh, I hope this works. All of the equipment is completely untried, but I wanted to share this experience. I’ve never recorded a hunt before. I’m using my Imagineer camera and the new Pretend 300 digital flash drive with unlimited recording time. If your equipment won’t get the picture, try adjusting the amount of whiskey in your glass.
My Trad Gang swap bow arrived just as I was leaving to catch an Imagination Airlines flight to Texas for some javie huntin’. I barely had time to open it up, string it and grab a dozen arrows with a spine I thought might work.
Bow in hand, I then headed around the house to the airport. I had no problems getting on my flight, even carrying the bow, which I propped between me and the PETA representative who had gotten the seat next to me. Made for some interesting conversation.
Anyway, got to Texas and my rancher friend said there was lots of good stump shootin’ in the back 40,000 acres and by the way, the javies had become such a pestilence that he had an open permit for unlimited control hunting, so if I ran into any, have at ‘em! And don’t worry, there’s no bow weight limit in Texas!
I shot around a bit, picking off mesquite stumps, sticks and what have you. The bow shot real nice… smooth pull and a perfect weight for my bad shoulder. I think I could shoot this one all day. It’s one of those snaky selfbows, which I’ve always wondered about but have never shot. The 1416 arrows I grabbed worked great, though I lost one tip when it stuck in a hard dried mesquite branch.
I was thinking of heading back to the ranch house for a break when I heard some shuffling and snuffling in a mesquite clump just off to the side of one of the water tanks. I decided to do a stalk and see what was up.
(Soft whisper) Man I never knew it could take so long to cover 50 yards of sagebrush and mesquite, but I’m tucked in behind the edge of the tank. Time to slowly look out and see what’s going on…. Oh, my gosh! That’s gotta be the largest bunch of javies I’ve ever seen! Whoa! One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven… Eleven of ‘em! That’s exactly how many arrows I’ve got, given one of my dozen has no tip. They’re about 15 yards out. That’s my maximum distance for shooting at javies. Wonder how many of ‘em I can get. If they mill around instead of running right off, I might get lucky and get several….
(Still whispering... real soft...) Real slow and easy now… nock, draw, release… Wow! What a quiet bow! And it’s a solid hit. Quick but steady now… nock, draw, release… and another one is down! Keep going, Dick… and again… and again…
(Normal voice) Well, that’s just unbelievable! I got ‘em all! That’s gotta be a whole new kind of grand slam in javies! Boy, is my rancher friend gonna be pleased. We’ll have a lot of work to do dressing them out, though. What an experience.
The new Trad Gang Swap Bow by John Scifres is really, really nice and got a wonderful break in. John, you done real good, man, and I surely do thank you. This will be one unique bow on my rack.
Here are some pix:
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Now this was the tough deal, propping all those javies up so I could take a shot of each one individually and superimpose them to provide this shot of what the group would be like.... :)
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h186/CaptainDick/scifres58.jpg)
And, Kelly, in case you missed it, you can mark John's bow as received by me :goldtooth:
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Nice bow and great shootin'! Imaginary javie for breakfast lunch and dinner.
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Yeah... it's really good with my special Dream Sauce!
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Nothing better than Havie Patties with dream Sauce. :campfire: :coffee: :archer2:
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Good job Dick I truly enjoy your stories, you have a real gift for it. That is a sweet bow and good shooting my friend.
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Good job Dick I truly enjoy your stories, you have a real gift for it. That is a sweet bow and good shooting my friend.
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Dick I almost forgot to mark you as received. I mean funny I was sneaking along that same ranch and got so caught up in watching your hunt, I let a small group of javies slip by me, so marking bows of my list was low on the list. Oh well maybe next time.
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now back to work 32 bows received.out of 83 so 38.5% of the swap is complete. 8 bow in the mail with 51 bowyer awaiting bows so you have a 15% chance of getting one real soon. There is about a week left before the ship date so not hurry or rushing you still have time. :)
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Dick that is great bud. I knew a while back you had a little something special coming LOL. I was as excited as you are.
John builds a sweet shooting bow for sure.
Stiks
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Thank you for the compliments on my nocks everyone! I'm certainly hoping this bow brings my recipient a lot of fun. The great thing for me, besides really settling in on a riser and nock platform I like, is that I was forced to learn to shoot left handed.
Dick, your story had me shaking my head with the most devilish grin I can muster the whole time. Thanks for taking us along!
Here's the pic you asked for Stiks...
Profile
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I also wanted to say, for those of you hoping to get Broketooth's insanely beautiful Snakey Osage 2-piece Selfbow, you can exhale cause it was on my dining room table when I got home from work thursday night!
Ruddy, WOW man. Honestly, I am going to take way too many pictures of this bad boy in the next day or so, and take these folks on the truly awesome journey of receiving this bow from you. I certainly do not deserve something so nice. I'm sorry I waited to confirm it's delivery, I just haven't been able to figure out what to say!
I STILL don't know what to say. Pics to come soon.
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Fish I got to check out Your bow you got from Ruddy at the NC shoot. It is pretty sweet for sure. Draws smooth and shoots great.
Stiks
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That is a great bow Fish and it was Ruddy's first ever selfbow!
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Wow Fish, Your very talented, your attention to detail is outstanding, love the nocks. Sounds like you're very lucky too.....Dan
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Awsum!Is all I can say Fish!
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Fish
OUTSTANDING!!!!!! :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the compliments fellas! Dan, i've certainly been blessed with sheer generosity. Ruddy also threw in 3 gorgeous examples of arrows and a bow sleeve to boot.
Stiks and Mr. B, you guys can certainly attest to Ruddy's excellent work. I would never bet that was his first selfbow example.
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fish , there is an entire bow build of your bow here is the link http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=004211
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Guys, I can say FISH builds AMAZING bows, I was the lucky one to get his from last year and I still pick that thing up an look at it with amazement. One Amazing Boardbow!!
Fish, Great looking bows! Keep it up bud!
Thanks
Boswell
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Hey guys.
Just a heads up that my trade bow will be going out tomorrow. I am having computer issues right now so it's hard for me to post. I'm using my daughters iPod to post this. I was also gone all week pig hunting. Anyhow the bow is done and I think it turned out great. Hope my recipient likes it. Will be shipped via priority mail first thing tomorrow.
Thanks again to everyone involved!
Tenbrook
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Posted (couriered) mine today :)
So for those of you who are interested...the cheapest I could get away with to send it from South Africa to the US was ZAR 1523 and some cents which = US $ 226 and some cents.....
DHL wanted to charge me almost double that!!!
Guess next time I take part I'll try to make a takedown. The length of the tube was the only reason I couldn't send it for a third of the price via our postal service (who only handle packages up to 100 cm in length)
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A few years back I sent bows to Australia, France and Holland. I quickly learned that if there is one single reason to justify takedowns, it foreign shipping! It helps a heck of a lot in the US, too. :)
For all our US folk, happy 4th of July. Don't forget what it's about, and for those who understand, "Gary Owen, sir!"
I'm going to spend a beautiful day in the shop with the door open and start a new bow. I blew one a couple weeks back and I think I'm not ready, mentally, to try that one again.
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i hear ya dick. i worked on the osage stick today for a couple hours , and got it down almost looking like a bow. its still probably 1.5 to 2" in cross section , but it has plenty-o-knots on the belly...
i think this whole next year , im going to get a handful of good boards , concentrate on super clean glue lines , and just make a bunch. once i got my longbow done , i pretty much stopped building em. i really do enjoy it , but i will enjoy it more , when my 200 sq ft garage is cooled by a 18,500 btu ac unit...
no pics , im whooped. just look at the last pics , and take off a buncha wood...thats what it looks like.
oh yeah , measurments are going to end up aaround
upper limb 30-32" , lower limg 28" max (due to split) , and around 10" handle ... gonna make it bend through the handle , keeping it at 48-50# , for safety and longevity... aiming for 47.390005 lbs at full draw , but who's counting... :lol:
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It is 65.5" NTN and pulls 50# @ 28". Came from a stave cut back in January 2008. Has Phenolic tips to make it FF compatible and holds about 1" of set after shooting.
Anyhow here are the pictures.....Enjoy!
Tenbrook :thumbsup:
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Nice looking stick Tenbrook But no pics over 600 pixels wide
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that is an incredibly clean lookin selfbow. your recipient should be proud. wow
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Johan and tenbrook I have marked yall as sent so that is 10 bows in the mail. Nice clean bow tenbrook also.
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Well I done about all I can do on my swap bow and looks like I am gonna have to ship late :(
I pulled a stave out of my stash that I cut about two years ago and it turns out osage don't dry as quick in the garage as in the house.
Who would of thunk it....
Anyway I got it tillered to 46# at 28" and I kept thinking that it acted kinda funny when I would unbrace it after tillering it would take severe set and you could watch it creep back to almost straight in a matter of a minute.
After talking with Pat B i decided to heat temper the belly to help reduce set and hopefully help speed the drying time. I have it in a hot box at around 100 degrees so we will see if it is dry enough in a week. I really don't think it has that much moisture in it but it's enough that it needs to set in the box a bit.
All that is left is tweak the tiller once it's ready and shoot her in and she will be off to her new home.
Kris
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Whew! Not just me...LOL
I went to do glue up and looked down my form and saw it was warped. I guess it did not like our winter either.
So down to home depot and got some materials. Just finished up the new form. Hoping to glue up tomorrow.
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tenbrook - that is probably the cleanest selfbow I've ever seen. Awesome!! I'd be proud to own that one.
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Bradford I saw you kick out about a bow a day per kid over Christmas. I wouldn't be too worried if you're building for me :confused: Nice form! I'm curious what it is made out of?
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Just got back from our annual Independence day 3D shoot in Kenai, AK. I was carrying my new trade bow from rogers and managed to miss 3rd place by a measly 4 points! :banghead: The first day it rained almost all day and I managed to have about 6 feathers fall off various arrows so I ran off to Sportsmans Warehouse and picked up a 1/2 doz pre-fletched carbons and finished day two considerably better (not raining!).
The bow will most definitely shoot better than I can and it was admired by all. :clapper:
Thanks again Caleb! :archer2:
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Some really nice bows coming thru!! :clapper: :clapper:
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Beautiful bow, tenbrook! Love the slim tips and clean back.
Stan
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Goose.. Thanks man! Yeah, I was a man on a mission during Christmas! And we had a warm fall so the hands where still working. LOL.
I bought some melamine shelving. I glued 2) 3/4" pieces together and screwed with long screws.. so it would get a good bite. Then grind-ed off the excess length of screw. This time, I used smooth on epoxy to seal up the open edges.. let it dry up and final sanded it. Then used some glazing putty (for auto body work) to fill in any small imperfections.
I think this one will hold true. We shall see.
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It is ready, packed, is shipping it tomorrow. The bow is two slats of Ipe, Ipe power lam, and backed with bamboo, 64”nock to nock, and has Zebrawood/bamboo/phenolic overlays and handle. Here are a few pictures:
Drawn
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Profile (excuse the background mess)
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Tip
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Handle
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That looks sweet Walt, I love that handle!
Great Job! Somebody is gonna be a happy camper. :thumbsup:
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Great looking bow Walt. I marked you as shipped let me know if it falls through. So tomorrow we should have 11 bows in the mail. Heck I bet tomorrow there will be a lot of bows received.
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Fantastic looking bow, Walt. I like the tractor seat on your shave horse, too. Also, congrats on being posted on the banner at the top! I'd like to see a full-size version of you bear hugging that cat :)
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Originally posted by broketooth:
fish , there is an entire bow build of your bow here is the link http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=004211
Thanks Ruddy! I can't wait to really be able to check it out. Kinda hard while at work to read a 12 page thread.
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Originally posted by Boswell:
Guys, I can say FISH builds AMAZING bows, I was the lucky one to get his from last year and I still pick that thing up an look at it with amazement. One Amazing Boardbow!!
Fish, Great looking bows! Keep it up bud!
Thanks
Boswell
Thank you Boz! I'm really glad to hear you still have fun with it. That was one of my favorite builds as well. Thank you again brother!
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Beautiful work Walt!As far as messes go,I dont understand how anyone can work in a clean shop.If its not laying in front of me I cant fined it.LOL!
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Who wants to play "How many bows can you find?" in walt's picture...
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/TradeBow2011010.jpg)
I only see 3 but my eyes aren't what they used to be.
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Fish I only see 3 unless you count the 3 still in them staves in the back corner.
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lol, reminds of find waldo :biglaugh:
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Nice bows everyone!
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Almost finished. I've been putting in too much time on remodeling the house the bow got put to the side. Here she is. Osage. 66". XX pounds @ XX inches. A big KS bullsnake dresses the limbs. My old Justin boots make up the handle/floppy rest. I've got to thread wrap where the snake skins ends, sign it and out the door. Hopefully this week but more than likely next.
Tip
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Lower limb
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Handle
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Hope my reciever likes it!
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Man thats awsum Tyler!Beautiful work!
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Some great looking bows everyone. Kind of neat watching everyones progress.
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Meet Bonhomie. Was the word of the day a month or so ago, and seemed like the perfect bow name for the idea behind the swap.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1309920405.jpg)
I'm really happy with how she turned out. Things I would differently of course, but she shoots fast, hard, smooth, quiet, etc, etc. I'm sad to see her ship, but I think I might build myself one just the same.
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Kelly, I guess you can mark me as shipped. Label printed and attached, will be dropped at the PO tomorrow morning. Thanks to you and Stiks as this has been an absolute blast. (Even if I did skip the first 3-4 months....)
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there are some dang nice bows being posted. i'd love to give any of them a home. good job everyone!
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She dead....
(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab283/jonnoocha/Bowyer%20Stuff/Tradebow%202011/IMG_5663.jpg)
This is my FIFTH attempt for the same person. I can't make heads or tails of it, but I'm going to be a little late on mine now Kelly. I will be sending you a pm in a bit.
Shortly after this snapped, I took a SWEET 25 yard shot through a couple of trees that offered a 3 foot window at 15 yards, and totally pegged the honey hole. As I was feeling all proud of myself, I saw my foam target rock back from nearly 800 grains of arrow thud, then forward. Too bad that target was sitting on top of another one. I would still have a nice cherry arrow, instead of 3 pieces that USED to be an arrow.
:knothead:
After that, my wife looked me dead in the eye and said with the straightest face "Ok, you've broken enough for today, you're coming inside."
I'm still shaking my head...
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Sorry to hear about the break Fish....she was a beauty for sure.
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Fish I think me and you are on about the same streak Bud. I have built 4 and I am on my fifth also.
Hang in there bud and don't do what I usually do and rush and end up makeing another bad move.
But on the bright side look at all we have learned and can chock up to experience now, If we ain't breaking we ain't making. Another thing about my first few is there will be some happy kids around shooting stick bows.
I think mine will be ready to start bending again by friday. I weighed it tonight and if it ain't losing anymore thursday and holds the same weight friday. I'll finish her up this weekend.
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Balding, CB nice bows gents.
Fish tough break, at least cut the knocks off and try reusing them. I got you I will send out pms to those whos bows are not being shipped.
I know of a few of you, and it is only a few that I know of. Sticks, B, and Fish off the top of my head. If you know you are not going to make it on the 9th let me know, that way I can let you bowyer know their bow is still being worked on.
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Kelly.. mine won't be shipping by the ninth. I got it in the oven yesterday. So now on to taping, marking and shaping. I will probably have it done next week.
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im going to be a little past deadline as well. i got the stave down a lot the other day , but one limb has a lot of belly knots , so i cant really get a good rhythm going. not to mention my clamp on the dresser setup is less than idea for holding a slippery smooth osage stave...
it sure is gorgeous though , i pray it bends very nicely and gives me no problems.
sorry to hear bout you guys breakin em. sending some mojo out into the ether for you guys' work...
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I've seen bows this year that really makes me GREEN with envy !
Wow! And too think most people are doing this for someone they've never met and probably never will meet...and are not being paid.. This whole trade thing gives me new hope for humanity :)
I think every bow here is simply a triumph over all the bad crap in the world!
Go tradgang! :D
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i like the way you think Johan.
as for my bow, it is ready to go i just got to get it to the post office.
good luck to everyone that still has work to do.
eric
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Fish -
I think we were all hoping that fix would hold, it was an awesome looking bow. But to lose a nice cherry arrow on the same day makes it tougher. Your wife sounds like a logical person, you're a lucky guy.
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nice lookin bow, canopy- i really like the boo belly and back- i will certianally be building one of those in the very near future. how did you do the colouring around the nodes?
how well does boo resist the compression on the belly.
how did you get it to come in close to your required draw weight- i assume you had to pre tiller the boo befor glueing up.
sorry---sooo many questions.
wayne
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Originally posted by canopyboy:
Fish -
I think we were all hoping that fix would hold, it was an awesome looking bow. But to lose a nice cherry arrow on the same day makes it tougher. Your wife sounds like a logical person, you're a lucky guy.
Thanks canopy. I tell ya, the support from my friends and mentors here is immense, but the Mrs. deserves much credit too. She certainly brings balance to the force.
I'm over the bow breaking on me. I've had time to breathe, Kelly told me some almost funny jokes, and i'm anxious to get back to work.
The great part about this next try will be that I told my 12 y.o. son Jordan he's making one with me after I finished the last one. Well, he's on deck, and is pretty excited to boot.
Let the shavings fly!
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and see fish you and he can sign the bow, hmmm god's will indeed. ;)
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I'm close to being finished, got behind with all the stuff that's going on around here, if you have kids that like sports you know what I'm talking about. Anyway I hope to send it on a long ride by Friday, oh wait baseball tonight and tomorrow night, some musky fishing on Fri and a trip to watch the Brewers Sat. and Sun. I got lots of time to get this taken care of. By the way, nice work guys and gals. I'll see if I can get some pics up later.
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OK- so I got a tube in the mail today.
Inside was a beauty from ******** :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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i have to say, i havent posted much on this thread, but there were alot of nice bows made and passed on to their recipients. im in awe of every bowyers craftsmanship.there are a few stand outs from the crowd, i think y'all already know who you are. a big thanks to stick-n- strings for providing me with a stave, and some other materials along with it. i also appreciate mr pat and sticks big time for their extencive knowledge and the willingness to pass it on. semo hunter you are not forgotten you instruction in the spoke shave will always be treasured . kelly g, i salute you big time your coordanation efforts while abroad is above and beyond the call of any mans duty. fish, we are forever tied together because you hold one of mine its my first bowchild, and may you make her a killer. rv
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I received a tube in the mail yesterday. A beautiful osage self bow from Soopernate! Antler nocks and a nice leather handle. I strung it up and it's beautiful. Won't be able to shoot it until tomorrow, but it feels great and looks like it is tillered perfectly.
THANKS SOOPERNATE! I'll post some pics next week.
The bow I am building will be in the mail next week.
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Sorry to hear your news, fish. Keep on working, bud, it'll come together for you!
Canopyboy, I certainly like the looks of the 'boo on the back and belly. Nice job.
Johann, I can relate to your sentiments. This is a phenominal group of people. When I talk about what this bow swap is about most people can't believe it. I'm afraid they think I may be either stretching the truth, or simply crazy!
This has been a tremendous experience without even leaving home!
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got my bow from waldo. I can't shoot it anymore because of an injury to my shoulder, but I'll think of something.
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Kenny and Chisler updated you to received. Thanks for the kind words ruddy but it is my pleasure give me something fun to do.
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really nice looking bows guys! tick tock- tick tock- work in progress here- got 3 in the works. I joined cuz I wanted to try something new and push myself - i THINK its gonna work out- tick tock tick tock - -gonna be close on my ship date, I will let you know kelly- seriously GREAT JOB TO ALL. totally impressed with all the bows
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DVs got you too, I pray for a speedy recovery so you can shoot them bows again.
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Dang another bunch of killer bows...Fish that's a tough one and what a looker..dang.
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Glad to see this all coming together nicely. Kelly has done a fantastic Job! :clapper: :clapper:
All the Bowyers have done a fantastic job too. It's been a great experience to hear about everybody's misfortunes and what was learned from them. I myself have gained alot of tillering experience from building 5 bows and four of them being under weight. Also learned not to skimp on your first bow scale if your serious about building bows.
Lots more to come yet and it's gonna be great I'm sure
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
All the Bowyers have done a fantastic job too. It's been a great experience to hear about everybody's misfortunes and what was learned from them. I myself have gained alot of tillering experience from building 5 bows and four of them being under weight. Also learned not to skimp on your first bow scale if your serious about building bows.
I'm with ya Stiks.... I have two sitting on the shelf from this swap attempt that need to be finished up and will be given to the local archery shop for kids bows since they came in under weight. Even my final attempt that was shipped still ended up about 5# under but I shipped it anyway :banghead: Not sure why I had such a hard time with this one :dunno: My last swap bow was a 70# Jatoba which was like tillering a 2x4 but it made weight on the first try.
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Ok, I guess it's time to quit fondling this bow and get it out the door. This one took several times to tiller in because it kept picking up weight from the sinew. But I think I got it dialed in at last. She is sinew/snake backed Juniper and has Gemsbuck horn tips. She is a 58" ambush style hunting bow with a very slight bend through the handle tiller, to be able to reach the draw of her new owner. I hope ya like her.In the mail Today Kelly
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Canopy Boy- Great save and that's a new look that I haven't seen before and I'm really likin it!
Looks real sharp man! :thumbsup:
Balding Kansan- Awesome looking stick bro! Somebody is gonna be real proud when they get that one. I love that bullsnake skin, those are pretty........gotta get me a couple of them!
Keenan- Make sure you get my address correct. Love the skins on these bows, awesome job to all of ya!
Fish- I don't know what to say buddy? I hate it for ya, but don't let it get ya down. Keep pluggin away at it and it will all come together.
I know that nothing anybody can say will make it any better, but just hang in there.
Sometimes your the baby and sometimes your the diaper. :banghead:
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Mine was shipped last week. It should be arriving to its new owner any day now.
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That is a work of art Keenan. :clapper:
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Awesome job guys ! That's the best part of the swap, to see how all those fantastic bows come together and in the end everybody is happy.
@Kenny: I'm glad you like her. I really appreciate your words, knowing that they come from somebody with such a great reputation.
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Andy
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Keenan, my heart sank when I saw the lefty shelf... maybe next year. Another beauty of form and function with your juniper and sinew. Lovely detail on the skins and tips.
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Sure are some nice lookin bows showing up, it seems like you all saved the best for the end.
Johan, I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. To see everyone putting this kind of workmanship into these works of art and then send them off to total strangers for the most part, is just amazing. Makes me proud to be a member for sure....Dan
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Keenan - WOW WOW WOW and WOWWWWWWWWWW!!!
That is one sick piece of art.
WOW. Somebody is going to crap themselves when that thing slithers out the tube.
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Unbelievable work of art Keenan...what a lucky recipient that will be!
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Well, I just came home from my daily dog walk to find a fed-ex slip on my door. I'm not expecting any packages so I've got a sneaking suspicion that I just might be the proud new owner of bow that someone has made for me. Fed ex slip says he was here at 12:06 and I got home about 12:10....RATS! Dang dog should of walked a little faster! Slip says I can pick it up after 8:00 tonight and that they are open until 8:30. Gonna try hard to see if I can make it by tonight to see what I got, otherwise I may not get any sleep. No clues at all on the fed ex slip to indicate who it might have come from, so I guess I'll be in suspense for a while. I'll keep y'all updated.
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Keenan I Think your recipient is gonna be overwhelmed! I look forward to seeing his post when that beauty shows up.
Stiks
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Thanks Guys, Just looking at some of the awesome bows being sent out and the efforts that everyone has put in their work, makes me very happy to have been a part of this.
Here is one for the new owner to have a sneak peak.
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c326/bornagainprimitve/DSC_0147_1.jpg)
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what a beauty!!!mr keenan, you and mr pat ana few select others produce bows at a level i aspire to. what a beautifly crafted bow. fish said it right WOW. rv
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Some really cool bows being shipped. Makes a guy want to take a weeks vacation and sit on the porch waiting, for the mail truck to show up.
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Originally posted by Shaun:
Keenan, my heart sank when I saw the lefty shelf... maybe next year. Another beauty of form and function with your juniper and sinew. Lovely detail on the skins and tips.
Now why'd you have to point that out. I had high hopes until I got to your post Shaun....
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Originally posted by Shaun:
Keenan, my heart sank when I saw the lefty shelf... maybe next year. Another beauty of form and function with your juniper and sinew. Lovely detail on the skins and tips.
Just stand on yr head, Thats what I had to do to shoot her in. :archer2:
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Originally posted by fujimo:
nice lookin bow, canopy- i really like the boo belly and back- i will certianally be building one of those in the very near future. how did you do the colouring around the nodes?
how well does boo resist the compression on the belly.
how did you get it to come in close to your required draw weight- i assume you had to pre tiller the boo befor glueing up.
sorry---sooo many questions.
wayne
Fuji-
Coloring around the nodes was playing around trying to get some sort of camo effect going. After the first couple of coats of finish, I hit it with brown spray paint. Then I sanded that off until I got to a pattern like you see. Then added some more coats of finish. I was pretty happy with how it turned out.
I think the engineering properties of bamboo in both tension and compression can't be beat by any wood. I'm not worried about the belly at all any more.
As for the tillering, I had it to a good tiller but a little light before I found the defect in the upper limb. So I figured I'd use that as a starting point. I mapped out the thickness along both limbs of the bow. The lower limb was a bit stiffer and had the best tiller curve, so I figured I'd use that as my target thickness with a little extra (30 thou I think) added in to put some weight back on. I ground the bamboo down to a thin taper, and measured it at the same spots as the bow. Subtracting that from my target thickness profile I had dimensions to grind the belly of the bow to.
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When I glued it up, the tiller was fairly good and I had gained 12 lbs or something like that. I lost a few pounds tweaking the tiller by working the sides a bit, and ended up at 57 lbs. Target was 55. After shooting it in, it read 56 lbs, so that's what went on the bow and I'm
claiming success. I want to make one for myself now, but maybe a few inches longer. I'll probably use the same method, although I plan to clamp the bamboo up the fades better.
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Keenen marked you as sent I hope **** is not afraid of snakes for that on would give most the willies at first glance. Truly a work of art though.
Canopyboy you gave me a head ache with all that math.
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Man what beautiful bows!
You guys are amazing! :notworthy:
Stan
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Well, I got lucky and the Fed-ex man came back. I was excited to see that he did indeed have a long tube for me. I could tell by all the stickers that this package had a very long trip, all the way from South Africa it turns out. I tore it open and inside was a beautiful bow made for me by Johan van Niekerk. This is my very first glass bow, and the fact that it was made for me from someone so far away makes it all the more special. Thanks so much, Johan. I immediately shot some arrows with it and can say without hesitation that this bow shoots really hard and right where I look. I hope to get some time hunting with it this fall and if I can draw blood, I'll be sure to post pictures. Here are a few pics of my new bow. Thanks again, Johan. I really do appreciate it.
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Wow! Beautiful work on some beautiful bows. You're really making this newbie squirm.
I've been practicing and making mistakes and now I've got one that needs some writing and another coat of finish or two and it should be ready to ship. My tiller could be better and it's light but it's going to have to do.
How's that old saying go? "it's the thought that counts." I can only hope to be in the same league as some of you guys.
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Vanillabear? congrats on a fine looking bow. Ranger44 I am sure as long as you did your best **** is going to enjoy your bow, heck they my be able to give you some pointers on how to make the nest one better.
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oh and that is 36 bows received, 9 still in the mail so you have a 19% chance that on of them 9 is yours.
and as of now 6 bowyers shipping late. I will let you know on the 10th if you are going to be waiting a little longer, all have tried but the bows they were working on just did not pan out.
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There sure are a lot of four letter names getting tossed around now...
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That's cause Kelly can only count to 4:)
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Finally got some more tru oil this week. A 32oz bottle for about 18 bucks shipped. Got a few coats on it tonight. Probly get a few more tomorrow. Need to serve my string and put a handle on then its off to the post office. May ship by sat if not it will be mon or tue for sure can't wait for my recipient to finally get his bow.
If he's anything like me he's been checking almost everyday still waitin for that long tube. . . . Well you'll have to wait at least a couple more.
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Canopyboy, I've been counting those little stars too. And now Roy's gone and ruined it for me! LOL
Oh, well... Just keep watchin'.
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Keenan, that bow is outstanding!
Kelly, don't be paying too much attention to Pat. Personally, I like what I heard, :saywhat: four letter names, long draw lengths, and lefthanded bows.
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Mine should make it in the mail this weekend. Monday at the very latest. Sorry to all for the delay, the bow is finished. I'll get some pics up before I ship it.
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@ Vanillabear :)
Glad you got it. The riser and tips are African Walnut (Or thats what the wood guy told me). Hopefully she shoots well. I'm still very much a beginner bowyer :D
Remember to post photos if you ever take an animal with it!!
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Tomorrow July 9 is the "DEADLINE" from the original sign up thread. Less that 50% of bows received so far!
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I'll be late too. Thought I could make it by tomorrow but it will have to be next week sometime. KellyG, I'll send you a pm to make sure you see this and notify ****.
LOL! ******* became a really popular guy on this thread.
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And on a really, REALLY DEPRESSING note: Crushed bow
(http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=001705;p=1#000000)
Sad for me and feeling really bad for all the work that WestTexan had put into it. And really angry at how FedEx dealt with it. Just cowardly! They dropped off, on my porch, a clearly damaged package without bothering to knock at the door and advice how to follow through with claims. And that's after they mailed the package all over Creation because of some clerk's fat fingers. Don't get me wrong, I know accidents happen. And when something goes wrong I remember people not by their mistakes but by the way they do their best to fix it. And FedEx continues to be a pain in the rear. I called them to file a claim and instead of apologizing they said there is nothing I can do, the shipper has to file any claims. So hate it, after all the work WestTexan has put into the bow to now have to go through telephones and paperwork. Aaaarghhhh! Just fuming here.
Sorry to dampen the mood. That's why I started a new thread. If anyone has any helpful advice on how to deal with FedEx please post. Post it on the PowWow thread maybe.
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The US Postal Service was here a few minutes ago!
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As I sat in my garage today tinkering with my trade bow I had a surprise guest, mr. postman dropped me off what he called "a bazooka".
more to come.....
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after some carefull unwrapping out pops not 1 but 2 pieces of yellow wood!
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THANK YOU LONGBOWHNTR!!!!!
my picture taking skills are far behind longbowhntrs skills as a bowyer- but there are more to come!
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Eagleone, you lucking guy!
I really admire someone who can get TWO bows done in the alotted time! Well done Longbowhntr!
I will have to turn the rest of my pictures. :)
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Forget the suspense! This computer is taking forEVER!
Thanks Dave! She is absolutely beautiful!
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First bow is a snakey osage with flipped tips and sweet pin knots- shoots like a dream
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Aram, is the bow a glass lam bow or a selfbow? I've heard it is almost imposible to recover any money for a selfbow unless the builder can proove how much it is worth.
I always ship USPS, Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. Never insured. The delivery confirmation means they can track a lost package and with Priority Mail has very few handlers in route so less of a chance for damage. USPS has never lost or damaged a package I sent that way.
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The second is also a character osage with a knot hole rite thru the limb!!
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one more
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Thanks again longbowhntr!!!!
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i dont know why them pics are so big - i resized them in photobucket??? - nevermind i think i fixed it--
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Those are some awsum bows fellas!Aram I feel for you and WestTexan.I hope it all works out well in the end.
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Hmmm...had a little pink slip saying I missed the mail man after returning from errands today. The description says "long, skinny, and triangular." Could it be...? :)
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Originally posted by b.glass:
Hey! My name has four stars in it! :jumper:
Bona
Bona,
Remember that post? I found it funny you were the first to respond to my four stars.
Glad you like it. Hope it works well for you. I enjoyed making it. (And learned a few things!)
-Dave
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Beautiful bows, folks!
Eagleone, I really like those curvy bows with knots and holes.
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kelly, you can officially mark me down as sent. dropped it off at the post office this afternoon, and it should be headin north by tomorrow. i sure hope they like it.
eric
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dang thats a sweet bow Scott,
nice bows guys not postin much but im following it daily
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VB- Sweet looking combo, love the dye job and the skins. That's the first time I've read about anybody backing Hackberry with anything, how do you think it would do with a boo backing? Never worked with hickory before.
Nice job to all the guys, some nice looking bent sticks showing up and more coming out of the wood work all the time. Mine is nearly ready to ship, probably on Monday. Would have liked to get it on it's way by today (Friday) but it just didn't happen.
Kelly I'll email you when it ships, but barring all natural disasters it will be on it's way Monday the 11th.
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WOW! Things are hot now. I've been out of town since Monday and haven't been able to check in. Took me quite a while to catch up on the the shipping and receiving. Well done everyone!
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First let me apologize for not posting sooner. Here is were I am. Only need a couple of careful more inches of final tiller. Should be done by this weekend and shipped by the first of the week.
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beautiful looking draw profile so far, juan. everyone's looking good.
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Ok I it is the 9th here. If you dont send it out today. Let me know please if you have not already.
39 bows received, 7 bows in the mail really some nice bows sent received, I cant wait until I have a more active role in this thing next year.
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Juan the tiller looks great on that stick.
Awsome job Guys and Gal. Looks like it's gonna go off with out a hitch this year other than us late shippers. Good Thing I stuck that grace period in there or I would be in trouble with a few others LOL.
Stiks
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Really nice bow Juan! You're design looks very similar to the last couple bows that I've made. I'm very impressed with that design myself, very quick indeed. What's the stats on your bow if you don't mind me asking.
Nice job everyone! Art
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I should have my "trad" bow shipped monday sorry for the delay I wanted it sent before the weekend but I got caught up in work.
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This mornig the Fed-ex truck pulled in the drive way and I hit the door running. As I'm flying across the yard, he pulls a big square box from the back of the truck and I screetch to a halt. It was the beach chairs the wife ordered for vacation. Talk about a let down. I was ready to fling some arrows.
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Mine is finished and will be shipped out on Monday headed to ****** in ** :saywhat:
Here's a few pics and I sure hope he likes it. It's not exactly what he asked for, but I did my absolute best I can do at my current skill level.
The only specs I can give until he recieves it is that it's a straight profile BBO with black snake through the handle and about halfway out to the tips. It's 60" NTN and retained about 1" of the original 3" of reflex I glued into it. I think this is the fastest bow I've built to date and really hammers my 450gr. CX Predators with authority. I'll let my recipient post more pics of it when he gets it if he chooses to.
I finished the handle wrap today, took some pics, and will be packaging it up shortly in a 3" piece of PVC pipe. I decided to go with the PVC after hearing the horror story a couple of pages back about the one that got crushed by Fedex.
I didn't beat myself up making the best bow possible just to have it squashed by some guy whos pissed at his job and in a hurry to run home on a Friday evening. :knothead:
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The money shot
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Semo the tiller looks great on that one. Good looking stick for sure.
Stiks
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Very nice work Chris... ^5
Roy
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Thanks fellas.
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That is a very classy looking bow, Semo. Full draw looks right on too!
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Nicely done Chris!
Hey Pat, does this ol' boy remind you of anyone we know? :D
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A ex-HomeDepot, ex block layer kind of guy? Not big enough! d;^)
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Yeah, I don't believe Chris could eat more than one deer at a setting. Jason's good for at least three :) .Art
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Wow semo that is a great looking bow, I marked you as sending on monday.
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Semo - nice lookin' bow. Is it headed to PA? ;)
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Thanks very much guys.
Yep it will be headed north on Monday Kelly.
Art- I can only eat 1 backstrap and 1 limit of bass in a single sitting, but I can eat my weight in fried turkey breast and fresh wild morels. :goldtooth:
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My bow was shipped yesterday to *****. They said it would arrive in two to three days to i'm guessing tuesday they'll get it tuesday. Didn't get to take any pics before i sent it so hopefully **** can do that for me.
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HEY, Stiks and Kelly! Where's the heads-up? I was sittin' here finishing a diet coke and there was a knopck on the door...
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A different mail carrier than we usually had was standing there with a "short" slinder tube of pvc pipe!!! :knothead: (Sorry, Stiks there are no flipping chicken graemlins so I'll hafta make do.)
Folks the address was from Bend, OR. from one Mr. Keenan Howard!!! Lord, have mercy on me today. Amen.
It is a skin-backed juniper ambush bow. 50# at 26" and 58" in length. :notworthy:
Keenan, Stiks was absolutely correct. I cannot put enough gratitude, appreciation, and awe into a simple post. This bow is unbelievable. I ran a dozen arras through it before going to work this afternoon and the zip was incredible!
I'll take a little while to get used to this beautiful piece of art, but I can asure you this will harvest a deer in the not to distant future.
I took the bow to work to show a couple of co-workers and a few regular patrons (I work part- time at the county library) and they were all blown away.
Later I will post pics so everyone can share a little with me.
Thank you so much, Keenan! This is a trully spectacular and beautiful weapon!
:goldtooth:
Stan
ps Gotta go shoot some more now!
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It couldn't have happened to a nicer fella Stan, congrats on a sweet bow. Hope you get a freezer full of backstraps this fall with it. :thumbsup:
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You just made my day Stan. I had so much fun building that one for you. It was a slow process with the sinew curing and then the skins, but I smiled evrytime I saw one of your post. I'm glad you like it. Several people got to see it in the halfway stage at the Classic.
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Red, you lucky dog! I got to see this bow early on at the Classic but she was nowhere what she is in your hands. I know keenan's work and finish so I can only imagine how sweet she really is and how sweet she shoots.
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Santa came to my house this morning!!
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Good thing my wife is NOT afraid of snakes!! :eek:
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thanks again, Keenan
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THANKS AGAIN, KENNAN!!!!! :jumper: :jumper:
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Right on Stan! I been waiting for the postman to get to your house more than I been waiting on him to get to my house.
When I sent you the PM about the draw weight I wanted to tell you so bad I couldn't hardly stand it.
Looks good in your hands for sure. Enjoy!
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Right on Stan, nice pics and great looking group. Great to be able to out a face to the dift as well. I pray it serves you well on your future hunts. Keenan
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Red hill I will mark you as received.
Ok here is lit of you who bowyers are running late, So if you see you name you bow has not been shipped yet, your bowyer is working on it.
Inuumarue, NTD, Dave bowers, Semo, Scottm, Ranger44, Sambo02, Soopernate, John Lipinski, Dmaxshawn. Your bowyers have contacted me or stiks and told us they are shipping late. They all have been working hard but the bow woods are not being so kind.
It is important for folks to let me know if you get your bow. we are looking really good right now.
43 bows received, Not to include the one broken during shipment. 10 bows are shipped or will be by monday. 10 that are shipping late.
the other 20 of you need to please let me know if you have shipped, or are shipping late, and if you have sorry just send me a reminder.
Thanks,
Kelly
43 wonderful bows already received that is as many that was in last years swap total or close I believe. WOW
Daydreaming of next years swap.
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great job everyone.
thanks for the update kel. i cant wait to see your entry next year. i think it will be a commemorative first edition type of thing.
gonna get out there and work on my piece a bit while the wife is sleeping in.
life is good
hov
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Thanks for staying on top of everything Kelly, I sure appreciate your hard work. I don't care if my bowyer needs more time, life happens. I'd rather him/her take a few extra days and get it right rather than hurry through it. It's too dang hot to get outside and do much shootin anyway! :cool:
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I can't express how much I admire you folks.... the whole thing the spirit, attitude, generosity, helpfulness not to mention talent is quite frankly over the top ....
Congrats to all of you !!!!!!!
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just spent a couple hours (however long since last post...lol) outside working on the stick. shes FINALLY bending a little tiny bit. i am going to pick up some 16d nails , and a couple 2x4's , and im making a proper hanger/pulley etc. this stuff is gorgeous wood ... just hope im removing the right "not bow" wood...
scraper time...yay...
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WoW!Red, that is a seriously beautiful bow you received there :)
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Great looking pictures Red. You did Keenan right and the bow looks awesome. Hoping my bow gets here before Wednesday so I can take it to MOJAM or if the builder is going to MOJAM they could just bring it there to save on shipping :readit:
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Goose,I hope to see many of you at you at MOJAM.This will be my first year to attend.Really looking foreward to it!
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Thanks, Goose. Sounds like ya'll are gonna have some fun. I'm gonna hafta plan on making a trip to one of those get-togethers.
By the way, I was near Ft Smith last weekend. My father-in-law helped me cut a couple of osage trees. Ended up with about 14 staves, unsplit off course. can't wait to get back to his house and bring'em home to debark and split! My paw-in-law lives at a little speck called Bluffton on hwy 28. Watched 3-4 does in the back pastures and had 5 gobblers come pokin' down of the ridge at the edge of the Ouachita Nat'l Forest behind his place... Beautiful. :campfire:
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Sounds like a wonderful way to spend the day Stan
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Ok posting this for sambo, here is the bow he made for ****, and I think they are going to love it. Now tell us about it there Sambo.
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Some fine looking bows.... I had to clear my head a bit after the Fedex BoneHeads ruined my week I went out and shaved some wood on stave....felt pretty good.I don't think those guys will ever have any of my business after this. I just hope they'll handle it the way it should be.
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It was a great day, Stiks, until the dead limb slams across the top of my bald spot! Even with a headache it was a great day. My youngest brother was in from California and went with me. He needs to get back to his roots.
Hey! Nice lookin' bow, Sambo. Beautiful scenery as well.
Stan
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I'd say nice scenery there Sambo. If I lived in a place with a view like that I wouldn't get much done. I'd be down in them there sticks.
Nice looking stick flinger. Give us some details.
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Nice work Sambo!Details please.
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Well shoot dang I bout to forgot to post my progress on my bow.
I decided to roll the tips a little and had to put a couple Torges patches in 4 spots that had to be addressed. I used water buffalo horn for the patches and they are holding up great. I shot it some today and did the shaping on the handle. Need to do some cleanup on her and put some skins and tips on her after I shoot her some more to make sure all is going to be well. I think it will but want to make sure. I think her name will be patches and I hope ***** likes her.
If all goes as planned she should be going to the post office no later than next monday.
Stiks
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Thanks a bunch for posting the pic KellyG.
Ok its a Hickory self bow its 67'' long tip to tip, it came out perfect in draw weight right between what ***** was wanting, It has less then a inch of set witch it started out with a little reflex.
The tree was harvested 11 years ago by my Dad witch would have put me at 5 years old I am now 16. My Dad said I should name the bow "Dads favorite" since he likes it so much :archer:
Feel free to ask questions about it if I missed something.
Thanks God Bless,
Sambo.
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Oh BTW the view behind me is my back yard :thumbsup:
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You are welcome SombO2 a hickory self. I dont recall is that the first hickory self in the swap. I recall another hickory but am thinking it was backed. Any way nice bow and let me know when you ship her to **** or was that ********************* oh well.
Oh and no-sage your bowyer is running behind and is shipping late as well.
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I think Tenbrook received a sweet hickory selfbow made from a sapling with plenty of character.
Stiks
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Originally posted by WestTexan:
Some fine looking bows.... I had to clear my head a bit after the Fedex BoneHeads ruined my week I went out and shaved some wood on stave....felt pretty good.I don't think those guys will ever have any of my business after this. I just hope they'll handle it the way it should be.
Man I'm sorry to hear about that when I read it a few days ago Tex, that just plain sucks!
Keep us informed on how it turns out, I'm extremely curious to find out how a claim is handled on a selfbow. I would think that if you had it insured for $500 then that's what you should get from the claim. I'll be watching this one closely, maybe you should start a new topic on it when you find something out? I know I'll have a few questions myself.
Good Luck!
Great Looking Bow Sambo!!
We need more pics, close ups, full draw, ect.
If you need help posting pics let me know, I can help. Just shoot me a PM.
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I agree Semo. That young man built a fine bow!
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I recieved my tradebow today!!!!!!!
Today started out bad, I had to help a close friend burry his dog early this morning. To take his mind off of things, we decided to go golfing. I had my best 9 holes ever, 2 over par. Anyway, we get back to the house, and there is a pvc tube on my porch. We wasted no time in getting it open and unwrapping the bow inside. Wow,is it something special. It is a beautiful bow made by Eric Pittard. We both just stood there for a few moments just looking at it and saying "wow". I really wanted to shoot some arrows out of it, but it is scortching hot outside and I was drenched in sweat just from opening it up. I brought it inside and strung it up for some quick pictures. This evening when it cools off a little, I will take some more that do it justice. This is the first laminated bow I have ever had. I can't wait to shoot it. Does anyone know Eric's user name? I would love to thank him and find out some more info on the bow.
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Looks familiar :)
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Eric is eman614
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Thanks John. He sure make a fine bow doesn't he.
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........mine was mailed on June 29th but no confirmation it has been received yet. :dunno:
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Kelly my trade bow is in the Mail!!!! Yeeehaaa! :thumbsup:
Also here is some more pics of Sambo's trade bow. Very nice job Sambo, reall classy!! :clapper: :cool:
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Thanks SEMO_HUNTER for posting the pics and the nice comment.
Kelly mine was shipped today!
Thanks guys.
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Once back in my room I will up date yall.
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Very nice, Sambo! I like that hickory. Got a few hickory staves in my outbuilding I harvested last summer. Just lettin'em season.
What's the pullin' weight on that stick?
Stan
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Got my trade bow today from Walt Francis! I finally connected with the USPS and wow, it's a beauty. I will post pictures shortly. Thanks, Walt! :) I REALLY appreciate your attention to detail and the nice tiller! :thumbsup: It pulls smooth and hits hard!
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Thanks Red Hill! Its 50#s at ** :thumbsup:
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Your quite welcome Sam.
4est- I think Walt must have gotten the address mixed up? It was supposed to come to Missouri. :goldtooth:
That's ok though I don't mind ya puttin a few shots through it, I would do the same if it came to my place by mistake.
Now if would would kindly just stuff her back in the box I'll pm you the correct address to forward it to. :biglaugh:
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Got my bow today man is it sweet!!! She is real beauty burnt you rock THANK YOU
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Gonna try and get mine in the mail this weekend.
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I managed to get my bow shipped off today. It should arrive in 2-3 days.
It is an attempt at an r/d Hickory Backed Maple. I ended up shortening it and didn't measure after that but I think it is 64" ntn. My recipient was not too fussy on draw weight so that's what he got, not too fussy! :) It has black and white phenolic overlays on the tips and is dyed black. I tried my hand at a leather grip (another first for me) and kind of enjoyed that but more practice will improve on that too!
This is my fourth finished bow and I really enjoyed making it despite much of the frustration that it caused. Now let's see if I can get pics to work.
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Some fine looking bows.... I had to clear my head a bit after the Fedex BoneHeads ruined my week I went out and shaved some wood on stave....felt pretty good.I don't think those guys will ever have any of my business after this. I just hope they'll handle it the way it should be.
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Wow I haven't a clue how that post got back on here from last night... I posted with my phone again some how I guess. Been working some long hours and got off sorta early today and might get a few hours in on some wood. Semo I'll post it up what ever happens with it. Thanks
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Chisler got mine...a very nice PM was waiting for me in when I finally got back today from beautiful LAS VEGAS...yeah that was a fun trip. Cannot wait for santa to show up in the form of USPS lady.....the suspense is almost as unbearable as the heat.
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Originally posted by WestTexan:
Wow I haven't a clue how that post got back on here from last night... I posted with my phone again some how I guess. Been working some long hours and got off sorta early today and might get a few hours in on some wood. Semo I'll post it up what ever happens with it. Thanks
Thanks I appreciate that. Would be good info to have if that should ever happen.........knock on wood! :knothead:
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I waited as long as I could but by 8:30 the heat index was still 107 degrees. I didn't care, I had to try out the bow that I got from Eman614.
It really zips an arrow! And hits right where I look too. This is one super bow.
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Looks like it stackes'em too!
As bad as this sounds I almost can't believe it myself but the one I thought was gonna be the one blew on me today out of no where. Upon closer examination of the break I seen where it had a very small splinter on the edge of the limb and I guess it carried across the limb and she snapped. I know how fish feels let me tell you.
I feel like I am starting building bows all over again. :banghead: :banghead:
I'm gonna have to do something even if it ain't right.
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Bummer man, I went for so long without a mishap and everything I made turned out sweet then bam I screwed up 2 of them back to back. I couldn't blame all of it on material either, one of them was clearly my fault.
I hate it for ya Stiks. I'd say don't worry about the deadline, just take your time and make a bow how you "Know" it will turn out good. Keep it simple would be my advice at this point in the game.
Sorry for your loss.
Scrub- That looks like a sweet shooter you got there! It topped out at 104 F. here today and I almost passed out in the garage, had to stop and come inside. :campfire:
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Well I'm back in the saddle again.I got a bit farther along than I thought I would with this one. Not a real good pic it's with my phone.The left limb is a bit stiffer.
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I hear you Semo. I can't really blame it on the material. I just got in a hurry. Seems like I been having trouble with that lately.
Been working six days a week and I really was hating that I was gonna be late and whammy. Now I am really in a pickle.
Oh well we know what they say. If you ain't breakin you ain't makin.
I did send my recipient a PM with my phone # and will be discussing some options with him.
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Stiks man that's a bummer for sure....I know the feeling and it ain't good at all.
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Looks like it stackes'em too!
As bad as this sounds I almost can't believe it myself but the one I thought was gonna be the one blew on me today out of no where. Upon closer examination of the break I seen where it had a very small splinter on the edge of the limb and I guess it carried across the limb and she snapped. I know how fish feels let me tell you.
I feel like I am starting building bows all over again. :knothead:
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Fish, Can I join the club even though most of my failures were stupid mistakes on my part? I think this is bow attempt number 5 I'm working on now.
Still tillering here. Just noticed a pin knot across the width of the belly. May end up doing some patches soon.
Adam
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If you notice on my trade bow there are 2 braided serving wraps part way up the limb from the fades. Those were knots of concern, not failures or splinters, just areas of concern that could someday cause a problem so I wrapped them before they ever got the chance. There's no shame in taking some "preventative measures" especially with osage because it puts a pin knot in the worst possible place and there's not much you can do about it. So rather than allow a small knot to cause me a problem I super glue it an wrap it now before it becomes an issue. Of course I tiller the bow first, but before lots of shooting I'll wrap em.
I don't do every single knot or anomoly, just the ones that are close to the edge of the limb or just appear that they could be a problem later on.
And it doesn't effect the performance of the bow one bit.
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1 in 44? Bah...much more than that. I'm so glad to finally have a shooter after all my breaks. I've finished the handle, arrow rest, and started applying the finish to the ipe last night. It's amazing how pretty that wood is when it has a sheen.
To be perfectly honest - it's nice to see more experienced folks are having problems too. Makes us newbies not feel so bad!
Inuumarue with 5 breaks...dude that's a killer. Way to stick it out - persistance is really the key. I've broke/ruined 4 or 5 bows now, but each one I've learned a bit from.
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Boy Kris. You might need a new hobby! d;^) I think it is time to go back into your comfort zone.
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Got a message from KellyG.
Ok aram,
eagleone as offered up one of the 2 bows he got. I asked westtexan if he wanted to build you another one or if he wanted me to contact eagleone and have him ship you one of those bows. The choice is yours, and you can't go wrong either way.
Kelly
I was so upset for a while because of fedex's response to their mistake, now I am so humbled and blown away by people's generosity. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Still don't know what to say. Eagleone: The offer is reward enough. Thank you! :notworthy: Let's wait and see how FedEx makes up for their mishap. Certainly can't put a price on the bow thy broke but maybe they'll make it worth building another. Who knows...
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Thanks for the pick me up Pat. I would pick up a new hobby but this keeps drawing me in further and further :knothead:
I pulled out a piece of boo and some slats yesterday, 4 of the 5 that I had problems with where due to my scale. I now have two scales that are accurate within a 1/2 pound. I have built four shooters during this venture but they are very light weight bows and will end up going going to some kids.
MW, I'm no seasoned bowyer by any stretch. I have built about 25 bows and out of that about 6 turned out to be hunting weight well tillered bows and 3 have come apart and the others where light weight and ended up in the corner waiting for a youngster to come along.
Stiks
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... and, Eagleone, it doesn't mean I'm not drooling over either one of those gorgeous bows you got. 'Cause I am. :D
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I have to come to expect to see this sort of thing round here Aram. Pretty good folks if I do say so.
Well I'll retract that and say The best folks you'll ever find anywhere!
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Originally posted by Aram:
Got a message from KellyG.
Ok aram,
eagleone as offered up one of the 2 bows he got. I asked westtexan if he wanted to build you another one or if he wanted me to contact eagleone and have him ship you one of those bows. The choice is yours, and you can't go wrong either way.
Kelly
I was so upset for a while because of fedex's response to their mistake, now I am so humbled and blown away by people's generosity. :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Still don't know what to say. Eagleone: The offer is reward enough. Thank you! :notworthy: Let's wait and see how FedEx makes up for their mishap. Certainly can't put a price on the bow thy broke but maybe they'll make it worth building another. Who knows... [/b]
What an amazing group we belong to here! This is why I come back daily. We're all watching to see what fedex does for you Aram.
Pat, I feel as Stiks does. This is what I want to do as long as I possibly can. I CAN'T get another hobby. This addiction won't let me. It's not quite as bad as when I first discovered hunting, but I'm pretty sure it can be classified as a sickness. I don't care how many arrows or bows I break, jigs that don't work, or band aids are needed.
I am going to be trying my SIXTH attempt for my guy, but I think now there is some much needed Zen back in my shop.
Thank you for that Goose and Stiks.
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Sometimes I wonder why I keep doing this to myself as well, but just can't seem to shake it off. I love building bows and I learn something from each one, and each one gets better even if it fails. I improve some part of the process regardless.
I am slowing way down in this incredible heat we are having though. You folks in Texas, Arizona, and other southern states are used to heat over 100 deg.F but that's not normal for Missouri.
Hang in there Kris, the troubles will pass. Scrape up all the broken bows from your shop, carry them all outside in the back yard, make a bon fire and burn the bad charma. Sweep all the shavings, sawdust, ect from any remnants of bows past and get rid of it.
Start fresh with a fresh clean shop, maybe that will do the trick.
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I'm as hooked as the next guy and have been for over 25 years. I was kidding with Kris about a new hobby. Heck I don't have time to keep up with all my hobbies as it is. Between work and the opressive weather I'm good if I can stay awake whenever I sit in my chair. At least my basement workshop is at least 10 degs cooler than the outside but the humidity is what really gets me.
Keep at it Kris and everyone else that are having troubles. This group is as patient as they are generous!!!
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Pat I know you was kidding, LOL and as far as patience I know you are a testament to that. If I didn't get a bit of a ribbing now and then I would think somebody was mad at me :D
I'm waiting to hear back from DmaxShawn before I get to carried away. I do have a couple options layed out on the bench maybe do a bbo or a boo backed bloodwood. Or I may start on another selfbow.
I do know that after I get this swap bow shipped I'm starting on next years and gonna give myself some time for a nice character bow that I've been trying to accomplish for this swap the last two years. Heck maybe the third year will be the charm, LOL
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Ok, so it only took me three tries to make a salvageable bow, so I'm feeling kind of lucky here. But has anyone else had the thought (no matter how fleeting and short-lived) that they should just give up and buy a bow for their recipient? After the second one I'll admit that I actually thought about it for a couple good long minutes.
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Originally posted by canopyboy:
Ok, so it only took me three tries to make a salvageable bow, so I'm feeling kind of lucky here. But has anyone else had the thought (no matter how fleeting and short-lived) that they should just give up and buy a bow for their recipient? After the second one I'll admit that I actually thought about it for a couple good long minutes.
Not for a second for me. I have, however, had the thought of sending one of my first bows off. After having 5 blow up on me, it was looking like a good idea. Feeling desperate causes desperate reactions. But I hated that idea too. It's just not what this is about. If I wasn't pushing myself and my comfort level, I probably could've shipped one out by now, and not learned about knots on the back, tillering too long with a long string, and the problems with using exotic woods with domestics.
I also wouldn't have had all this wonderful and colorful kindling for my fire pit!
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Sometimes & in my opinion, you just can't force a bow out of any kind of materials. You have to slow down and let that said material tell you what to do.
I'm sure no one minds if someone is late and having a bit of trouble,,, it happens.
Some form of communication to the right people (Kris or Kelly) would pacify 99.999% of intended recipients.
Nice bows and efforts gang!!!
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From my understanding there is about 20 people that hasn't been heard from. Is this correct Kelly?
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Joe, I agree with your first statement. Let the wood(stave) tell you what it wants to be. I have found that has helped me with problem staves in the past. A little corrective bending here or there just helps it all come together.
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I considered giving up and buying a bow, and I also flirted with sending a previously completed bow. So I'm with ya both Canopy and Fish. In the end though, as I'm laying the finish on the completed BBI, it is nice to have gotten through it. Kind of like the feeling of a long hike with a cool waterfall at the end.
I was pretty far down after I developed the crack in the ipe on the last bow. The only reason I didn't give up was because of the wonderful, wonderful bow that was given to me. The heat is killer in Georgia this time of year, and getting that bow was the only thing that kept the sweat rolling in my garage.
But I can tell ya this, the day I have a conditioned shop - both air and heat - is the day I will feel financially set.
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Joe said it about as right as it can get. Pat knows I have a bad habit of trying to tweak a stick just that last little bit and causing my own heart ache. LOL
I do learn from it everytime though.
On a good note I talked DmaxShawn and I will building a good ol Boo backed bow. I'll glue in some Perry Reflex, a powerlam tiller out and let her be what she wants to be. Add some good looking handle lams and tips.
Stiks
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Now your talking Kris, that sounds like a great option. I've become a huge fan of boo backed anything, and if it were headed to my door that's the one I would have chose also. :thumbsup:
I knew Pat was just giving you a hard time, but I have wondered why I put myself through this torture sometimes. Then when you make a smooth and sweet little rocket launcher that hits right where your looking all the bad experiences just melt away and your sucked right back in again.
Buying a bow was never an option for me and I would honestly rather shoot one that I made myself because it's all mine.
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Im pretty sure that I am in trouble.... I made a real smart decision tonite. My beautiful wife is at a work function so I decide to apply some tru oil inside (skeeters are terrible) I lay down some newspaper and set up the bow. Everything goes fine for a while--- then the unthinkable-- I must have bumped something and the bow tips over, which in turn tips over the open bottle of tru oil all over the BRAND NEW CARPET!!!!!! #@*$!@$#$#@%$%#$%^*- thats code for whoops.
so its been nice knowing you guys- i think this bird is cooked!!!!
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eagleone - sorry for your accident and the carpet. Just send that bow to it's recipient as it is right now before your wife breaks it over your head.
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Uh oh..........nice knowing ya cause that ain't coming out! :scared:
Just a thought that might save your arse, maybe you could put something over top of it to hide the spot, then when she's gone cut a square around the spot and remove that whole square of carpet. Then cut a square out of a good piece and tack it down in it's place.
Might work? That's about the only way I would know how to repair it without taking up the whole room and replacing it and I don't know of anything that would get that stuff out of the carpet. :dunno:
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Eagleone, maybe a case of tru oil will make the rest of the carpet match? Huh? What'cha think?
Stiks and Fish, no one believes the attitude and fellowship on this site. I tell the stories and show the posts and they look at me as if they can't believe people are actually like you guys.
Keep up the work, fellas, I'm following this in between working and shooting my new trade bow! (Keenan, you're getting a fan base down here in Ark! Everyone is envious of my new skins!)
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Eagleone....my buddy owns a carpet cleaning business and does great work. I was watching them do some spot removal on our carpet once and happened to snag their spot remover can to see what it was.....carburetor cleaner! He told me to keep the secret and said they don't tell people because the homeowners usually get in trouble when they try to use it themselves because their vacuum isn't powerful enough to get it all up or they leave it on the spot too long and it starts to eat the fibers.
Just sayin'....might be better than an early death. :)
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Your done for. I got a couple of tiny specks of super glue on our new counter tops from fletching some arrows one time and the wife was not happy. It has been 4 months ago and I still here about it. You need to gather up all of your bow building equipment and supplies and get out of there before she comes home. GO NOW!!!
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Don't know how your credit is, but a possible escape is to hide the spot for the moment... jacket on the floor, spread out a tarp like you thought of it in advance, or whatever. Keep lights low... Then when she comes home, "You know, honey, I was noticing tonight, this room would benefit from some redecoration... You're such a great wife, why don't you do whatever you'd like with it?" Let's see... Death or a Huge Bill? eeney, meeney......
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Thanks for the support gents- didnt leave a spot but clean all i want its still sticky-
i feel like a big arse!!!!!!!
for those who know....
"when cameron was in egypts land--- let my cameron go...."
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eagleone, contact the Tru-Oil folks and see if they have any suggestions. That's how I found out that TiteBond glues will release at 150deg(F) when I needed to remove a hickory backing.
Years ago my wife nocked over a bottle of black oil paint on our Asian carpet. It didn't come out and was BLACK! In life, stuff happens!!!
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Denatured alcohol cleans up tru oil really well, I won't admit to why I know that :dunno:
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Thanks again guys- good idea Pat and Walt. Shes a good gal- I just feel like crap about it, did everything rite - ALMOST. How many times does that happen in the woods, shoulda known better-
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I believe mineral spirits will dissolve tru-oil.
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This site is absolutely incredible with the hearts of so many people willing to help each other.
Eagle, Thanks for helping me to not feel alone in some of my mishaps :bigsmyl:
Redhill; that warms my heart and inspires me to start in on next years trade bow soon.
Kris, I feel for ya Bro. Sounds like your on the right track to get her dialed in. Pushing the extream edge and working toward the ultimate in performance can certainly bite at times.
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i got somethin in the mail today from kerryb. nice work kerry you should be proud of your work. its the first bow ive ever had with skins on it (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00326.jpg)i also never seen a reflex/deflex selfbow before. i love what ya did with skins on the belly side of the handle, never seen that before either (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00327.jpg)and some tiny tips too is that bacote tip overlays (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00328.jpg) (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00331.jpg)i did fling a few arrows with it but couldnt get pics cause its so hot outside whew come on fall
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Eagle: I've REALLY been there. I spilled a bottle of TruOil the first year of our marriage when we were still in an apartment. The stinking stuff literally ate/melted the carpet, much like superglue does to some plastics. My wife was so gracious, although there was the initial tongue lashing and burden of guilt. However, we were able to find a remnant of the carpet and had someone patch in it. You couldn't see the offending area when it was all said and done. The good news for you is that it IS new carpet, and therefore any remnants you have should match perfectly. Call a carpet layer and get their take on it. Depending on the nap of your carpet (Berber style would be harder than most), you might be A-okay. :)
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i have some questions about proper brace height and if its a fast flight string on it nice work kerry nice work i need to spend some time with it so i can get some blood on it come fall. rv
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Originally posted by tenbrook:
It is 65.5" NTN and pulls 50# @ 28". Came from a stave cut back in January 2008. Has Phenolic tips to make it FF compatible and holds about 1" of set after shooting.
Anyhow here are the pictures.....Enjoy!
Tenbrook :thumbsup:
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Nice looking stick Tenbrook But no pics over 600 pixels wide
This is what showed up on my step today :thumbsup:
Very clean lines, Simple yet elegant. Had a minute to string it up and fling a few and she shoots great. Also a great Job on the tips Tenbrook. Looking forward to taking this thing to the woods.
never really shot the longer bows but this thing is a smooth draw and pleasant shooter. Now I know why guy's like'em long.
Ruddy, Keenan and myself and Pat all got to see you bow first hand at the Classic and it is a gem for sure. I knew when I seen it you where gonna love it. I almost told you in NC that I seen your swap bow but I held my tongue. LOL
Keenan, I have pushed myself quite a bit but learned alot more than I lost.
I did cut out the profile on my boo last night and cut a blank out of a beautiful piece of Blood wood. I'll probably get it glued up in a few days as soon as I get a chance. I need to do a little work on a form first and cut a powerlam and handle overlays. I might see if I can round up some cool reddish colored snake skins. Any suggestions?
Stiks
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and the obligatory full draw pic (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/DSC00333.jpg)
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Wow the more received bows. My internet in my room is down sneaking on at work. I will be down for a few days. Once it is up I will have a lot of updates.
Ranger 3 I am down to just 10 bowyers I have not heard from. I do need to read some of the older PMs I have to make sure I dont have more.
I have was worried about a few but out of now where they have come through. Really only one concern and I not worried the safty net is out if they fall.
It is coming togather. Stiks I will shoot you an email with my updated date now you have your bow after this weekend and my internet is up.
I have an Ideal for next year I think you may really like.
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When I checked my mail yesterday there was a slip from the mailman. It said..."tube too long for my jeep!" After work today I went to the PO to see what they had for me. The clerk came out of the back with a long white PVC pipe with duct tape on both ends.[they love me at that post office! d;^) ] When I got home I opened the tube to find a very nice red oak pyramid style ALB (75" long, 50#@26")from Mo Oyervides. Thanks Mo. I have a place of honor in my bow collection for this special TG Trade BOW!
I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet or take pics but I will soon.
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Ruddy, Kerry and Keenan had their booths next to each other at the Classic last spring and I got to see, hold and pull your trade bow. I think Kerry has built a bow or tweo before. I can already see some down east NC deer blood on it.
Kris, You lucky dog! That has to be the cleanest osage stave I've ever seen and apparently it made a very nice bow.
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nice looking bow guys! My bow is getting there- still putting on the finish, tru oil on bow - not on carpet. Thanks to you guys for your advice with that!
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in case anybody every flubbs up like i did- this is was birchwood caseys prompt response
Jeff,
I am sorry to hear of your mishap.
You can try to thin out the Tru-oil with paint thinner (mineral spirts)
Make sure that you ventilate the area (room) well.
After thinning it out with the mineral spirits, you can give the area a good spray with the Birchwood Casey gun scrubber.
Our Gun Scrubber is a great degreaser.
Our synthetic safe Gun scrubber formula is safe for carpets. Once again, be careful of the fumes, and make sure the area (room) is well ventilated.
The gun scrubber is highly flammable, so you will not want to place a heater on the spot to dry it.
I hope that helps.
If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me.
Good Luck!
Best regards,
BIRCHWOOD CASEY
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Originally posted by jsweka:
Semo - nice lookin' bow. Is it headed to PA? ;)
Imagine my surprise we I got home today and found a tube from Chris Banks at my house. It did head to PA. Unfortuantely, I'm in the middle of a bad case of the flu so I didn't get to enjoy it as much as I would like to, but I did put a few through her tonight. Here's a full draw pic.
(http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/jsweka/BowSwap/CAM_2010.jpg)
The bamboo and snake skin's are awesome and Chris was right - this thing is amazingly fast. I was shocked at how it sent a 550 grain douglas fir shaft down range.
Thank you Chris. This bow is a thing of beauty and I am very pleased to have been lucky enough to be your recipient.
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Sticks, add me to your list. I had the tiller starting to look good on my bow, was bending real nice and when I was checking it over on the tree, tick. Looked it over and there was a crack right in the center of the upper limb. Luckily I have another bow in the works for backup so have to pull it ot and get to work.
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Razor me and fish are gonna start a support group LOL
I think we'll call it bow breakers anonymous.......
Hi, my name is Kris and I build a few bows :D and sometimes I break bows
and I can't stop!
John sounds like you got a shooter and a looker.
Pat, I had to closely examine my bow that I got to make sure it was that yeller wood we all love. I didn't know they made osage this straight :D
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I hope it serves you well John, glad you like it and I think you look better shooting it than I do.
I was kinda surprised at how much zip that bow had also, if you have any questions or problems please email me or shoot me a PM. :thumbsup:
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Will do Chris. I don't foresee any problems.
I really was amazed at how fast this bow is. I put the bow on the scale and got 48# at my draw, but it shoots an arrow that I normally use in my 54# longbow noticable faster.
I just wish I wasn't so dang sick today so I could play outside with my new toy.
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I was trying to hit 50# so I guess I wasn't too far off. My bow scale is a piece of crap and only goes to 50# but it isn't very accurate so it's more like an educated guess when using it. I need to break down and buy a good scale but money just doesn't permit at the moment and I don't want to buy another cheap one.
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Good morning everyone.
My name is Fish.... and I break bows.
That's all I have for today.
Thank you.
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Me too!
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Well I am beginning to think that bow making is like scoring a goal in soccer it all about attempts. The more attempts the better the odds of one slipping through and being a score.
Well so 3 more bows received. I will up date that data as soon as I get to my room.
Looking good
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i recieved a beautiful bow from Ranger44 today, Scott you did an amazing job thank you for the fine bow . couldnt get any full draw shots because of the monsoons . rained 4 inches after 3:00 today. will try and post some tomorrow
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one happy little boy!!!??!!
thanks ever so much mike- really unique an' cool!!
will get a rest , slap er on and get some shots off!!- cant wait....
thanks again!!
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Nice bow ya got Wayne..
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That is frickin cool....if you get tired of it, feel free to send it towards Montana.
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Sorry I had to drop off the planted for awhile. Life got busy. I have been working on this bow off and on for a few months in between my failed attempts with some juniper logs. Well I am way behind on my bow I thought I would have been futher by now. I should be able to finish up it this weekend and ship out by monday. I have had it shooting for a couple of weeks but I have been slow on the finish work. Here is a few pics of ******** bow. (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0413.jpg)
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(http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0420.jpg)
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That's a goodlooking stick Twitch. Is it backed with sinew?
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It is a paper backed red oak board bow with cherry tips. It's 66" ntn Around 50 @ 28 " with I figure 1 1/2" of follow. I have shoot a good hundred arrows though it and it dose seem to shoot faster than I thought it would. (http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss248/barebow13/IMG_0405.jpg)
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I have to lace up a handle and put a good finishing coat on but it's just about done. I hope my recipient will in joy it. It has been a great learning experience and a honor to see some of the great bows made for this bow trade.
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Ken75
posted July 14, 2011 08:24 PM
i recieved a beautiful bow from Ranger44 today, Scott you did an amazing job thank you for the fine bow . couldnt get any full draw shots because of the monsoons . rained 4 inches after 3:00 today. will try and post some tomorrow
Thanks for the kind words Ken. I have to say I was very intimidated when I received your name. I think you've made more bows in a month than I have made total. Right away I figured I couldn't make something you hadn't already done. I fixed the problems I encountered the best I could and ended up with a pretty light weight but I liked shooting it although I haven't shot much to compare it to. All in all it was a good and fun learning experienced and I think I am hooked. :)
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The wife just took a trip to town with a tube that's going on a ride, Hope he likes it. Some nice bows being made, been fun, thanks, Ted. (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0218.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0216.jpg) (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff211/bonelake/IMG_0217.jpg)
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Man that's a gorgeous takedown Bone Lake! Great job. It's the perfect weight and draw length for me too. But alas, I already have received my trade bow. Guess you'll have to draw me next year :)
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Nothin at this address yet!!!!! Maybe the Post Lady will drop it here. :bigsmyl:
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Awesome TD Bone! Is that maple I'm guessing?
I like it!
Nothin here yet either so maybe it's headed to Missouri? :goldtooth:
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Man I have a lot of updating to do. We are getting close to wrapping this thing up.
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i'm still waiting also.the mail man tricked me today too. she pulled down my driveway so i got all giddy, i thought sure this was it, but she whips out a small rectangular box. oh well, maybe next time
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Wow, that maple is stunning!
Just an update. Got through rough tillering today. I'll get the tip overlays on tonight/tomorrow. Then i just have to reduce the outer limbs and do final tillering before I finish her. So far so good, but that doesn't mean much when it's me holding the tools.
Adam
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WOW ! Bone, that's a fantastic looking bow. You sure know how to build a nice bow.
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Ok I have 49 bows received, 8 bows shipped not counting to broken bow either dont know where to put it.
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Just one opinion, but I'd put the broken bow in the "received" column. As far as tracking the bow swap effort goes, the bow was made, shipped and received. Resolving the issue of its being broken in shipping is a separate thing. The commitment was met and that should be acknowledged.
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Bone, that is a beautiful bow. Makes me glad I haven't received mine yet, I stand a chance that it's headed this way.
Dick, I agree with you on the broken bow.
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Still waiting on the mail man also. I've always liked the figured maple bows and that one is a real work of art Bone. Hope it's heading east....Dan
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Beautiful bow Bone lake!!
I made one take down recurve and it really gave me an appreciation for the skill level of those bowyers who can do it right. (Also gave a good idea why professionals charge more for a take down).
Well done!
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Beautiful bow, Bone!
I agree, Dick, the bow was delivered.
Man the bows in this trade are phenomenal.
I still made out the best though... :goldtooth:
Just my opinion, but hey, I'm still sittin' here holding Keenan's creation in awe.
Stan
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Looks like I'll get to ship Monday. Its been real humid and Tru oil is not wanting to dry. But I have 3 coats on and hope to get 3 more on the next two days. I'll post pics in the next day or two.
And by the way I think my mail man is avoiding me. I am bugging him to death looking for a package.
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have to work till 4 tomorrow (Sat) , and then go do an inspection , then i get to go home take a shower , and go shopping. im really hoping to get the bow to shooting condition sunday. im going to spend the whole day if i have to. i already told the wife to plan on it.
pics as well. its really starting to look like a bow , but at 1" wide tips , "bending" is a relative term...
that maple td had my jaw just DROPPED. also LOVED the trad wharf . i have an old bear that my old man gave me , and i have been wanting to make him something long and smooth.
absolute gold , gentlemen. almost time for next years signup already... i havent even cut anything ...
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Bone that is a great looking bow. I am with canaopyboy the bows of late are so incredible, one is fortunate to still be waiting. Seems there is pictures of cooler and cooler bows everyday.
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Thanks for the kind words guys,this one about burnt me out,with all the activities my kids are in and this crazy weather we've had so far this year,( spent about 10 hrs. with a chain saw in my hands just so a buddy could get to his cabin 2 weeks ago, and there still people with out power north of here)I had a hell of a time getting a decent finish on that bow with the humidity it would not dry or one of our state birds birds was stuck in it so after sanding it off 3 times I finally said good enough and started hunting for something to ship it in and sent it on it's way. I really would like to improve my finish, seems to give me a hard time. Hopefully we do this again, it makes us all better at our craft as you can tell by all the beautiful bows showing up on here, those BBO"s and skinned self bows make me drool.Thank you again Trux for the long bow, you really put the pressure on to a good job and appreciate it. Like I said, it's been fun, now to get caught up around here. Hunting seasons only a couple months away!!! (but first I need a beer) Thanks, Ted.
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Buy the way it's red elm and curly maple, I work making hardwood mouldings and my dad used to work at a sawmill, all that wood costs me $ 0.00. I think a few strips of black glass would really set it off, maybe next time. Ted
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Nice job on that one Ted!! The curly maple makes a unique looking bow.
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Ok. I finally got mine in the mail this morning. It took me much longer to finish it up than I had planned. Sorry about the delay.
Also, when I walked in from work last night, there was a long white tube from Larry Joiner sitting on my bed. Thank you Larry! The bow looks great! Unfortunately, I won't really get to try it out for awhile as I'm leaving for scout camp in a few hours and will be gone all next week. I know that they ask us not to bring our own bows and arrows, but I might just have to sneak this one in anyway.
Again, thank you, and I'll try to get some pictures up after I return.
--Steve
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FINALLY! got her done.
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It's a fiberglass one piece recurve that is XX inches tall and pulls xx lbs at xx draw.
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Ya'll know I have arthritis, so I will say that I can not pull it all the way back when shooting. I had to sit on the couch and use my feet and two arms to pull it all the way back and had my wife look at the tiller for me.
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Then took it into work and had one of the guys pull it back in shooting style... looked real good. They ooooo'd and ahhhhh'd at it. So that's cool
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Will be shipping off Monday!
I shot it today.. again, not at full draw ... but holy cow.. Zings arrows fast at my part draw. Hope the recip gets some use out of her!
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I stand by my earlier comment. At this point I'm happy to be still bowless.
Bradford, that is phenomenal!
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Steven, glad you finally got it. I mailed it last Saturday and I was in a hurry to get it sent and didn't write any kind of note. It is a BBI in case you couldn't tell. This was my first time using Ipe and my skill level is far less than what I've seen from others here,but I hope it is ok .
Thanks Larry
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Very nice looking bow Bradford. I especially like the specs with all the XX's. :)
When I first came to this site I was kind of fussy about what I thought was a good looking bow but now after watching this bow trade thread it's more like it's hard to find one that isn't sharp looking. Building or trying to build bows has given me a much greater appreciation for the finished product.
What a great group of people and I'm just glad to get to be part of it.
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Super sweet looking bow Bradford!
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Got you as marked as receive reb, Bradford nice bow. I know ******** will love it. Let me know when you ship her.
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I finally got around to taking pics. It has rained here fot the last 5 or 6 days(I'm not complaining!) but anyway here is the bow that
Mo Overvides sent to me for the bow trade. It is red oak pyramid style long bow, 75" long, 50#@26"
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Mo carved a very interesting handle and dippled it with a cool pattern. Here is the belly side...
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and the back of the handle...
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well now pat that bow is simple yet very elegant. Long and lean, with nice curves in just the right spots, wait are we still talking about bows.
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You've been in the desert too long, Kelly! d;^)
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These last couple posted are sweet...momma always said good things come to those who are patient and not buggin for everything in the store...now 40 years later it finally makes sense.
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Bradford, thats a neat looking recurve, what woods did you use in the riser?
Kelly, I agree with Pat, it's time to get you home when you start using words like that to describe a bow, lol....Dan
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Originally posted by KellyG:
well now pat that bow is simple yet very elegant. Long and lean, with nice curves in just the right spots, wait are we still talking about bows.
You should check out the '11 trailcam pics thread on PowWow Kelly....
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WOW Bradford that bow is absolutely awesome!!!
If that bow was headed to Missouri, I'd wait on it till October if I had to. Very nice work!
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Thanks everyone! The main riser wood is Ash, the handle area is Ash that is stained with Minwax Onyx.. the nose cone are Madrone and Paduak.
I was real happy with the ash. I found a great piece at the hardwood store.. and it is hard enough to be a bow, but still workable. Also accepted the stain really, really good.. much better than the maple.
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Come on David, that's my 11 year old daughter! You need to spend less time in the trees. LOL.
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Just returned form the MOJAM at Marshall Mo.Had a great time!Im just now catching up on all the building and shipping over the last few days.All I can say is WOW!Awsum work everyone!Im Still anxiously watching the porch!I had my wife on lookout while I was gone.Cant be too careful.LOL!
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I just got back to scott. I had about five pages to read! Awesome bows everyone.
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I got back last night and no package for me as well but I'm in no hurry...
On I was gifted a bow at MOjam though that blows my mind. She is about a pound at 3.5" and can really fling a skewer.
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Im In no hurry either Goose.Its just the suspence thats killing me.LOL!Its just the thought of somone knowing they are building a bow for me and I have no idea who they are.Im one who has to try to figure every thing out.You know when you watch a movie with a good twist in the end and you you were able figure it out a head of time.I love that!This is so much fun to watch play out!
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I'm a little late shipping but here's a peek before it goes in the shipping tube.
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It will be on the way to it's new home tomorrow.
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THIS IS NOT THE FINAL TILLER!
This is the tiller BEFORE the horn is applied to the belly.
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I hope you can see the tiller alright. This is
6-7 pounds shy of it's intended weight at 28".
I think "Dark Continent" might be a good name for her. Gemsbok horn on the belly, zebrawood in the handle and tigereye beads as an embellishment.
Awsome bow Kodiakid!
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That is some bow kodiakkid I know **** is going to have to stop shaking once that is on their door step. I marked you as shipped also.
B she is coming along nicely. I cant wait to see it done.
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Kodiak That is one sweet stick for sure. I'm a sucker for copperheads.
Bona the tiller looks pretty good. Bet some horn bellies will really set it off. Love the name and theme behind it too.
Stiks
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Sorry gang I got this bow on Friday and I have not had time to post a pic.
The bow is a one of a kind in my collection,,, hickory backed yew! I really like it and have had fun shooting it in the back yard Saturday and again this morning. I think the tiller is most excellent, the handle is very comfy and the craftsmanship couldn't be mistaken. Somebody's got tallent!
Fujimo!!!
And, I got extra's! Rough spruce shafts, a cool stringer and some sheep shearling I forgot to put in the pic... I will put it all to use.
Thank you so much Mr. Nicol :bigsmyl:
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glad you like it Joe, he was having fits with your draw and vagueness on your bows.
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Great lookin' bows! Heck of a swap, folks. This has been an awesome way to spend the first seven months of 2011!!
Stan
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Good thing I'm not superstitious cause I'm going to say that I am very happy with how my current bow is coming along. I got impatiant on the last bow and didn't do what I know I should have done. This bow I am using the gizmo early in the process and have plenty of wood left now that I have the limbs bending evenly. Put some temporary nocks on tonight and tomorrow will get it to short string and then to a low brace. Feling good and will hopefully have it in the mail by the end of the week. My appologise to ****** for being late. Will have some extra with the package as a token.
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I was hoping to have been done and shipped by the middle of this week. A couple more coats of tru-oil and she is on the way. Here are a couple of pics. I will post full draw pics and complete specs when it is 100% finished. I do have a question. How do you write the specs between coats of tru-oil? Will it smear if I just add another coat of oil on top of the writing?
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Looks good Juan, Glad to see I ain't the only guy using the spring clamps to hold a bow while the finish dries.
If you do a search there have been several post on writing on bows. I can't remember off the top of my head what the best way to do it is.
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With all the beautiful bows being posted now I'm actually glad I'm still waiting! :)
This is like being a kid before Xmas!
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Johan, I am with you. I see bows and say, 'ooh I hope that is mine", and then another comes along that looks just as good. Absolutely tremendous work being put out this year. When I get mine out i hope it holds up to the crowd,
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I know what you mean, Iam still on the waiting list , just like Christmas in July. All the bows are AWSOME.
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Im right there with ya both! but....I see these bows and go oh it could be mine then its right-handed. :(
Great bows everyone!
God Bless.
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I'm on the other side of the fence on this Sambo. I owe my guy a bow still. I should've had him one sent 5 times over by now, but efforts were thwarted each time.
This next one should make him pretty happy I hope. Hope he understands why i'm late, and that I AM trying!
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Well fish n chicks if the person your making the bow for cant understand why your a little late then he's not a bow'yer, everyone can go through a rough patch and your doing the best thing you can witch is keep trying and never give up. Job well done sir!
God Bless,
Sambo.
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Fish n Chicks
You will get it done, Iam sure Kelly an Sticks have kept in contact with the person you arae building for and he knows what has been happening. You will get a keeper for sure.
Pete
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Oh we try to let folks now it is going to be late, without too much detail. I have few that need to let me know what is going on but they are all good guys and there is no worries here I think for as many bowyers it is coming to gather very nice. I know it is at least 50 bows receive and about 8 in the mail still. I love being on this side except I dont get to send one out. I get to see the reaction of some of you and snicker when it is your bow.
Juan that is a clean and lovely bow.
I mean if we all voted on the best bow how would you chose. I mean the long, sleek elegance of a bow like that one or the skinned dressed up hotties, and the glass and lam bow with the combination of woods. It is almost to much for a soldier who has been to long in the sand box as pat pointed out.
Wonderful effort from all so far.
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I am still waiting...but definitely NOT one of those who is stressed out about it. Good things come to those who wait ya know.
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I'm still waiting too, but am more concerned about getting a good bow out to my recipient. I've already decided that if mine arrives before I get a bow done then it will sit, unshot, right in front of me until I get it done. Might not even unwrap it. Should kep me moving along.
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When is the deadline again fellas?
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I think it was July 9
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Originally posted by SaMbO2:
Well fish n chicks if the person your making the bow for cant understand why your a little late then he's not a bow'yer, everyone can go through a rough patch and your doing the best thing you can witch is keep trying and never give up. Job well done sir!
God Bless,
Sambo.
Well sir, I appreciate the support. If he gives me any grief i'll be sure to send him your way for some attitude adjusting! :knothead: :biglaugh:
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Originally posted by tradbower:
Fish n Chicks
You will get it done, Iam sure Kelly an Sticks have kept in contact with the person you arae building for and he knows what has been happening. You will get a keeper for sure.
Pete
Thanks Pete! Kelly's been on it. Some amazing teamwork going on 'round here.
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Gotta love the USPO.... :readit:
Anyway, the saga continues.
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Juan, most of the guys use india ink with a quill pen or fountain pen that use tru oil. I've used a ball point pen with success (Pentel I think). Do not use the paint markers with tru oil because is does smear. I ususally write after a few coats, then apply several coats over the writting....Dan
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Juan, I used a fine tipped sharpie. The tru oil doesn't smear it and makes the writing stand out.
Stan
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Thanks guys. I hadn't bee able to use tru-oil with a descent result in the past. Not sure what I had done wrong but everything is going smooth now and didn't want to mess it up. I looked thru the threads and found a couple of post explaining how you tru-oil guys finished up with the writing but still wasn't 100% sure. Thanks this really helps.
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Dave Bowers it was the 9th of July but some of the bowyer had picked some wood that just did not want to be a bow so the are using the 30 day grace. Your bowyer was one of them.
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Your recipient will not know who there builder is at this point after the grace period they will.
I took the liberty of contacting my recipient and gave him some options and he chose a boo backed bloodwood.
I got her glued up with 3.5" of reflex. Actually put 5 in it on the form and when I unclamped her she lost 1.5" right off. I'm gluing the handle on today and will start tillering in a few days. I really think it will turn out good.
I do need to gather some info on staining boo sometime but I sure I can get it here when the time comes.
Stiks
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Originally posted by AKmud:
Gotta love the USPO.... :readit:
Anyway, the saga continues.
That is such a major bunch of crap! I was wondering how long it would take for someone to get screwed on a 1 of a kind custom bow by the US Postal Service. How are you suppose to "Prove" how much it was worth since you were the original creator of the item? I'd make up a fake invoice or bill of sale, saying that you sold the item to your recipient and have him sign it. Then give that to them.
If you put $200 bucks worth of insurance on an item and they lose it, then your entitiled to that amount. Leave it up to a government operated institution to figure out how to screw you out of what is rightfully yours. :mad:
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Just ask anyone here to vouch how much the bow is worth . We can get hundreds of signatures if needed.
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We may do something like that next year Semo for the guys that insure the bow they shipped.
I'll have to give that some thought. Surely a guy is due compensation after that much time and effort into a custom bow.
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I was told a years ago that they wouldn't cover a selfbow because there is no way to determine the value. I never insure any of my archery related stuff I ship. I send it USPS, Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. I have never lost a package to USPS in many years of using them. They are by far the best way to ship bows and arrows.IMO
I've seen 3" PVC pipe shipping containers crushed with truck tire marks on it and the bow inside broken. This was UPS and I don't think they covered that bow because it wasn't packaged properly.
Also, discussing committing postal fraud on the internet isn't a very smart thing to do either!
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I got bow packaged up this evening. Hopefully I can get the wife to take it to the post office tomorrow because I don't get off in time. I'll have to admit....i'm a little worried about shipping after the horror stories. Maybe I'll hand deliver it to ******-***-&**($) who lives in Oklassippi.
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had to work a double last weekend and didnt get any bow time in. going to do a bit on wednesday , as that is my other job day , so i should have some open time.
you guys are really just waiting till now so you can one- up everyone... well played...
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Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Leave it up to a government operated institution to figure out how to screw you out of what is rightfully yours. :mad:
The private companies (UPS, FEDEX, etc) are even worse. I've always been amazed that they'll happily take your money to insure something without inspecting it first for as much as you want to insure it for. But try to collect on it and suddenly you have to prove what it was worth before they'll pay.
Of course, you have to remember how many people out there are trying to stick it to the company with inflated and fraudulent claims as well. And in the end it's just the honest guys (and gals) getting screwed.
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Yeah your right Pat. I guess a guy is just left to deal with if there is nothing you can do.
I ship the same as Pat and never a problem.
AKmud, I'd say it will show up soon.
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balding I will mark you as shipped. If it falls through let me know.
there are 8 in the mail again and 50 at there new homes and a whole bunch almost done.
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Akmud I know the feeling I'm in the same boat with Fedex....faxed paperwork in last week and no word yet. I got a few hours in another bow but working 16 hour days all this week kinda put a damper on the bow building. Anyways.... Some real nice bows you guys are posting.
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Having to prove the value is idiotic IMO....If I insure an empty box for $10,000 and they fail to deliver it or it gets lost, they should pay since I paid the premium they required for the insurance. If they delivered the package, they wouldn't have to pay... Seems pretty simple.
I'll give it till the end of the week then I'll file the insurance claim. Hopefully it will show though.
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(http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee423/h8noncubs/2011-07-18230217.jpg)Finished er up this evening (with a little help from a special jug from the mojam auction;-)). Should get it in the mail after work tomorrow.
Here are a few pics
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at full draw
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Its 63" ntn. Osage longbow with wenge and pupleheart overlays and en elkhide skivved handle. Took a lot more set than was desired, but all in all for as thin as it is for at the poundage I expected a little bit. Good hard shooter hopefully good old ******* wll have a bountiful hunting season with it, and not be too mad its a little on the tardy side of the deadline.
Enjoy and happy hunting!
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Boondock Saints quote.....NICE!!!!
I dont know about your recipient but that quote alone in your signature moves you up several notches on MY scale
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Originally posted by Pat B:
I was told a years ago that they wouldn't cover a selfbow because there is no way to determine the value. I never insure any of my archery related stuff I ship. I send it USPS, Priority Mail with delivery confirmation. I have never lost a package to USPS in many years of using them. They are by far the best way to ship bows and arrows.IMO
I've seen 3" PVC pipe shipping containers crushed with truck tire marks on it and the bow inside broken. This was UPS and I don't think they covered that bow because it wasn't packaged properly.
Also, discussing committing postal fraud on the internet isn't a very smart thing to do either!
I wasn't suggesting postal fraud Pat, a guy can charge a fee for his work and if it's agreed to by the sender and the intended recipient how is that fraud? There has to be a solution to this problem, maybe one of the custom bow makers who do this for a living will step in here and offer their 2 cents?
I may trade a bow for 4 tanned otter skins and claim market value for the skins as the price of the bow? Let em try and run the numbers on that. :readit:
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H8noncubs,
nice solid looking bow I am sure ******* will be thrilled once his new bow gets there.
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Guys, don't ruin the spirit of this thread by going on a rant against the USPS. Stuff happens. The USPS is very clear on what it takes for a claim. I'm with Pat B. I never insure anything. I've had 1 fiberglass bow damaged in the 15 years I've been shipping USPS.
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Not accusing you of fraud, Semo. Just saying that anything you say on the internet is out there forever! How anyone deals with or handles different situations is up to them. I'm just saying...!
I understand that STUFF happens and things get "lost in the mail" but for me USPS is the only way I will ship if I have a choice. I stick with success.
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Glued together "the one" last night. Really, it's the 12th "one" I have done altogether, and 6th "one" for my recipient. Wow. Half the bows i've tried making were for you * ** ****-**!
This billet consists of a red oak core, brazilian cherry and walnut for the riser and recurve sections, and sitka spruce alignment and guide pins.
Shaping should hopefully begin tonight, but my bro's in from Phoenix complaining about the heat in Detroit (that's not ironic or nothin) and he's coming by for dinner tonight. We might end up with some "hold my beer" moments so shaping may start tomorrow. Either way, **** ** *****, you'll be getting your bow soon!
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Quality time with your brother is good for the soul, if not for the head. Enjoy the evening and bust butt tomorrow.
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Or, infect your brother with the disease!
I still have a bow to ship too :o
I probably wouldn't be late but as someone else here said,,,, "Life just gets in the way sometimes".
I agree, 2055 posts here all about the goal and good will! Besides I probably have the longest distance to ship :eek:
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That's true Pat, I only use USPS myself cause that's all I can afford so I'm stuck with them like it or otherwise.
Now lets see some more bows!! :thumbsup:
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Chris, I'd say a bunch on here have seen it but didn't know it.
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Originally posted by John Scifres:
Guys, don't ruin the spirit of this thread by going on a rant against the USPS. Stuff happens. The USPS is very clear on what it takes for a claim. I'm with Pat B. I never insure anything. I've had 1 fiberglass bow damaged in the 15 years I've been shipping USPS.
DITTO
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Finally got her "finished" tonite- just gotta clean her up a little and get the tube ready to go!!! This humidity has been nasty for me trying to get the finish on.
Somebody asked before about writing.... I put a couple three? four? coats of tru oil on my bow then used a fine tip paint pen. When I tried to put tru oil on over the top it smeared like crazy- so after a redo and re-reading, I sprayed some poly over the top of the writing and put tru oil over it a couple??? more times. That worked well. Live and learn.
Dunno if she will hit the mail tommorrow- thursday or friday is more likely,as my wife needs me to find us a cooler pasture to bed down in--- hot-n-sticky with no a/c leads to an unhappy wife!
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My bow is in the mail as of this afternoon!!! Hope the reciever likes it as much as I enjoyed building it.
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got you balding and you know **** is really going to love it or was that *********.
Eagleone just let me know.
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Here is my finished bow. Please keep in mind this is my second shooter I've made. It's not perfect, but it is my best work. I've learned a lot, and my skills have improved through all the process. Although I already won the lottery with the bow I received, I hope the recipient is happy with this. With all the arrows I've flung from it, it does seem really smooth and consistent.
(http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow001.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow005.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow003.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow002.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow004.jpg) (http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad35/MonkeyWrench2010/bow007.jpg)
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KellyG just wanted to let you know that my bow shipped today. Should be to the recipient real soon.
Thanks
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Brian got you.
Monkey that is another one of them long and lean ones that just have the simple elegance. If that is the combo of woods I think it is I bet it smokes and arrow too. I know ******* is going to just love that one I bet they are drooling even now.
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9 bows in transit, and 52 bows at there new homes, we are close to wrapping this up.
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To everybody who is still working on their bows and have suffered a setback or two, or um……even more, HANG in THERE, it will come together eventually. I think anybody who entered this swap has had issues with a bow or two, or more…….that they built and understand.
Like Pat, I have shipped mine for the past 15 years USPS with delivery confirmation without a single problem. However, I do insure mine because my lawyer guaranteed that she would get me reimbursed for the full insured amount if one was broken or pay me that amount (of course she didn’t mention what her fees would be ;) ).
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well now that the rain has given me a break and the remodel is about over i can show some pics of my trade bow and brag a lil. Ranger44 sent me a beautiful bow and it shoots great!!!! , thanks Scott . here is the money shot (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/Ken7051/002-19.jpg) (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee487/Ken7051/003-20.jpg)
thanks to all for a great trade ive enjoyed watching and participating . hope to do it again next year . thanks to Kelly and Stiks for leading this thing down the path
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Thanks Ken!
If anyone heard a big wind it is the breath I let go that I had been holding since I sent that bow to Ken. I've been praying that he could get at least one shot out of it. :)
I can't believe how much fun all the frustration of building bows can be. Everyone here has inspired me and I hope to be involved in a trade like this again. Meanwhile, more practice, practice, practice.
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dont worry Scott this one will be around a long time , ive looked at a lot of bows and this is quality !
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Monkey wrench, That is a great looking bow! Tiller is very smooth.
Ken it looks like you scored a winner too!
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how long will it take to go through this again and see all the bows? This is getting better every year.
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I think next year will be over 100 entries and will keep myself and Kelly and one or two others busy. Looks like this is gonna be a long time Tradgang tradition.
I figure if we have the same # of entries every year as we did this year I'll have a bow from every builder by the time I am 121 yrs young :pray: :biglaugh:
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Yes but stiks you forget that you also want it to keep growing. The good news is I can keep the tracker and just add or take out as needed.
Cant wait to see the last 30 bows or so.
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I'm with Dave. I flip back and scan through all the pages every once in awhile to see where some of these beauties began and then where they ended up. This has been a really great thread.
Stan
ps It takes a heck of a long time to go back through all these pages!!! :knothead:
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maybe we should ask for a "swap archive" ...
gonna do some tomorrow evenin and spend a fair amount of my saturday and some sunday. i want to have finish and mailed by fri....
lookin great guys keep at it and dont worry about the post. i have packed and shipped antiques that were worth thousands of dollars , through usps , dhl , etc etc... the trick is , to mark it fragile , tell them it is glass. put shock stickers on it. i have never had anything break and i packed over 6000 items for one **** lady alone. insurance is only going to cover it if there is an invoice or proof of purchase in the first place.
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I'll send Terry or Rob a PM aqnd if they don't object we can get it in the archives
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Kris, Kelly will be on the bow building side next year. You might be hard pressed to get him to do the books too. d;^)
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Naw Pat this part is not that bad. I will need to get home and get some saves cut and down to bow blanks so they will have time to dry. I do have 3 option at my house now, but after seeing this swap I think I will need a few more than that.
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Kelly, I think the secret is to get an early start and don't push the envelope too far! d;^)
These trades really make us all push the envelope just to make the best bow we can for our recipient but just like getting a good haircut, you have to know when and where to stop.
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I love reading this thread and seeing all the awesome bows you guys are giving away to fellow bowyers. Can't wait for the next one to start so I can get in the action.
Great job all of ya.
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Originally posted by Pat B:
Kelly, I think the secret is to get an early start and don't push the envelope too far! d;^)
These trades really make us all push the envelope just to make the best bow we can for our recipient but just like getting a good haircut, you have to know when and where to stop.
Yeah no kidding... Look what happened to Goose's head! :biglaugh:
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I'm with Pat on the early start, since I have limited access to osage most of my bows are white woods. I cut them in the spring, rough out a few bows close to floor tiller and let them dry. When October rolls around I store them in a closet beside my wood stove. I weigh each one and mark it once a week until it stops loosing weight, usually around Christmas This way I have plenty of options if the first attempts fail, like this year. I broke two before getting one that was a shooter....Dan
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WhoZaa! Mailed it out today baby! .. only took me 3 freeken days to find a box for it. But got one and shipped out via USPS Priority mail. They say they are expecting delivery to my recip by Saturday.. Sweet.. that's fast for where it is going.
Mark me down as shipped Kelly man!
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I have had one horn ready to glue up since I posted pics of the full draw before the belly glue up. I'm getting close to having the other lam ready and I just ordered some python skins to put on her. It will definitely be named "Dark Continent". I also plan to overlay the elk antler overlays with water buffalo horn.
Bona
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Yall all are too funny.
Bradford I got ya buddy, I can't wait to see ****'s responce when that one hits there door.
Bona Horn belly, Antler and horn overlays, the snake skin to boot. I think you are trying to give **** an heart attack.
Monkey got your PM I will mark you as sent also.
I know some bows should have been recieved by now. Yall to busy shooting to share with the rest of us.
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Bona, can't wait to see photo's of your bow, she sounds like she is going to be a real looker.
Will hopefully get the tillering finished on mine over the weekend and then do the handle and finish work. Will hopefully be done by the middle of the week and in the mail thur or fri.
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Pat, did you see me leavin' the barber, or what? One side of my "fringe" is less than 1/2" and the other side is over 3/4"!! But my barber actually only has one good eye! Honest! :scared:
Stan
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I'm gonna right your quote on a broken bow Pat and hang it in my shop :D
Everytime I screw one up I hear you in the back of my head telling me "you gotta know when to stop". The hardest lesson I have had to learn in this venture by far. I guess it's the perfectionist in me that cause me to tweek and push until I have pushed to far. LOL
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I am tracking 11 bows in the mail just so yall know.
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Fish I have you know that I won that fight with the weed eater no matter what my head looks like. :knothead:
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Hey Goose, a smart man once told me that you can't grow brains and hair on the same head. I think I got smarter when I cut my mullet off? :thumbsup: :goldtooth:
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Found a slip in the mail box this evening when I came home, that I have something waiting for me at the post office. Man I feel like a ten year old boy just before x-mas... d:-)
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Andy
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shipped my trade bow today!!!!!
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I will mark you as shipped eagleone
Swiss I can't wait to see you with your new bow. As soon as you know for sure if it is your bow let me know.
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Someone got a tube today :bigsmyl: All I can say is WOW :thumbsup: More to follow later on.
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Now Dave how did you know a tube was dropped off at my place today? Also pics to follow. :thumbsup:
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well now we are getting somewhere I will mark yall as received.
53 bow now received so that is 64% received. In transit. The rest are in various stages of completion.
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Originally posted by tradbower:
Now Dave how did you know a tube was dropped off at my place today? Also pics to follow. :thumbsup:
Glad it made it there!!!
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Ted, I got your bow today. Dang, that baby is just AWESOME ! On the pics you posted a while ago it already look great, but that's nothing compared to the real thing. Man, I don't know what to say... I'm speechless !!!
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/FullDraw.png)
No time for more pictures, have to go out and shoot it... Will post more pics later.
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Andy
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Got mine bending nicely to 28" last night and shot a few arrows through her. She seems to zip them out nicely. Have to shape the handle and replace the temporary nocks with real ones, sand her down and maybe toast the belly, not sure about that yet. Then I get to shoot her a whole bunch :) pack up and send away.
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Ok Swiss marked you as received.
Razorback teaser PICs would be nice. :)
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My wife called yesterday and said that I had a tube at the house..... Wont get to see it until Tuesday. So as of now I have received. Cant wait to get home!!
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Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Hey Goose, a smart man once told me that you can't grow brains and hair on the same head. I think I got smarter when I cut my mullet off? :thumbsup: :goldtooth:
Everyone that cuts off a mullet gets smarter. Thats like saying "after I took my hand out of the blender it stopped cutting me" :biglaugh: :laughing:
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Originally posted by DVSHUNTER:
Everyone that cuts off a mullet gets smarter. Thats like saying "after I took my hand out of the blender it stopped cutting me" :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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Andy
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For all of you guys still waiting, just to narrow the list of possible bowyers I got mine in today from Brad/Monkey Wrench. Shes a looker for sure and the three arrows I got to shoot before the rain came in were very promising. I'm looking forward to taking it out for some more. I'll get some money shots up when the weather turns nice again.
Thanks Brad!
Adam
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Originally posted by Inuumarue:
For all of you guys still waiting, just to narrow the list of possible bowyers I got mine in today from Brad/Monkey Wrench. Shes a looker for sure and the three arrows I got to shoot before the rain came in were very promising. I'm looking forward to taking it out for some more. I'll get some money shots up when the weather turns nice again.
Thanks Brad!
Adam
RAIN???? What's that???
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Originally posted by DVSHUNTER:
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Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
Hey Goose, a smart man once told me that you can't grow brains and hair on the same head. I think I got smarter when I cut my mullet off? :knothead:
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i never had a mullet . for me its all or none. and i have had both. now its a matter of what ever is not turnin grey is turnin loose lol at mullets. rv
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Ok with all the new ones receive here is where we stand. 63 bows made and shipped, 55 of those received so there are 8 still in the mail. There are also 20 bows in various stages of completion. So we are 66.27% complete.
(I have been play with my excel spread sheet, to do all the counting for me. Boy that makes it easier.)
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Glad to here it got to you ok Swiss, hope you like it.
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I've been in Kansas this week enjoying the perfect temperatures and my equally perfect in-laws. I keep thinking the chance of me coming home to something on my front porch is decent. I love how Kelly keeps that number in the mail out there for us.
Here's to hoping! :coffee:
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I sure do, Ted. I shot a few arrows today and man that baby rocks. It's fast and accurate, at least it's much more accurate than I am... ;-)
A few more pics...
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0937.jpg)
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab173/07Hawaii/TG%20Bow%20Swap%202011/IMG_0938.jpg)
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Andy that is a great bow. I just don't know what bow is the best. I mean I would be proud to give any of these bows a home. Great work to all of you bowyers.
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That's a sweet lookin bow you got Swiss. After a very long work week I finally got to check this sweet bow I got in the mail last Tuesday from Steven Russell. Some yeller wood 56 @ 27
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_0191Medium.jpg)
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r268/Flinthunter_bucket/IMG_0187Medium.jpg)
Still haven't shot it yet...maybe tomorrow evening.
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got mine almost braced today. i call it almost floor tiller...
forgot i was still going down one more ring. should bring me down a bit , and get me a nice solid layer.
gonna do the knocks and use the string i made last week for her. i even found my tillering stick and some drywall screws , so i can actually mount it. ill get 'er done soon here. it really felt good to be rasping and scrapering ...
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Still no pics. Sorry guys, I know I'm a horrible person. But I thought I'd put in my little update.
I have a bunch of sanding to do and some overlays to shape. On the sanding note, no matter how broke you are, buy more than one grit for your thickness sander... the 60 grit lines are still in the back lam and they're a bear to get out.
Got the linen micarta and cannarywood overlays glued on today, should shape them down and file the nocks in tomorrow. Then its just the left over sanding and the final tweaking of the tiller. I think I should be getting this one out the door next week.
Adam
P.S. Monkey, I cant help but look at the grain on that ipe while trying to work on homework. Man that stuff is distracting!
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Well mine is tillered to 28", handle roughed shaped, tip overlays installed and one nock just about finished. Will hopefully get the other nock done and the handle finished tonight. Can then start shooting it in, final sand and recheck the tiller. Then its just the finish and a big long tube and she will be on her way. I only have my work computer for a while so sorry no pics just yet.
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I got back from the family reunion this morning, and I could make out the long tube without even turning the lights on. My wife thought I was nuts, but I had to open, string, and draw it a few times before I went to bed.
I now have my own piece of yellawood. It sure draws smooth, can barely wait to try some arrows through it. Recognize the tips?
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1311607584.JPG)
I'll get some more pictures up when I've caught up on sleep a bit and have shot it in.
Thanks Chris!
:bigsmyl:
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According to my tracking numbers, I know SOMEONE who is getting a bow today! :}
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Boy you got that right Bradford!
And what an amazing bow it is!! It's perfect and the craftmanship is bar none, you did a fantastic job on this bow! Thank You so much, it's exactly what I was hoping for and when I saw the pictures you posted of it I was secretly thinking to myself....."I sure hope it's headed to Missouri"
I just got done tuning and shooting it a bit and the only pics I have for now are a couple of groups I shot with it out in my back yard. It's fast, accurate, and hit's with authority. I couldn't ask for any more from this bow, it's definitely going in my blind with me this fall. At a full 50" tip to tip when strung, it is a welcome addition to my hunting gear and now I don't have to come up with money to buy a bigger pop up blind, all I have to do is grab "The Bradford" and hit the ground running!
I'll get some full draw pics and pics of the bow this afternoon when it cools off a bit, near 100 deg.F already and it's not even noon yet, and I'll post the pics later tonight.
Awesome job Sir and you made a Big Ol' Missouri Redneck feel like a little kid at Christmas time, thank you so much!
15 yards.......and I haven't even tweaked the tuning yet! Hits right where I'm looking and I'm sure this bow shoots better than I can, haven't shot much since the weather got so dang hot.
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/mohunter68/TheBradfordBowTradeGangBowSwap2012001.jpg)
20 yards and there is no noticeable drop at all from my CX Predators with 190gr. up front!
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/mohunter68/TheBradfordBowTradeGangBowSwap2012003.jpg)
Here's one more from 18 yards.
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/mohunter68/TheBradfordBowTradeGangBowSwap2012002.jpg)
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AWESOME!!!!!! Glad you like it. Hope the stack is not to bad at the final draw length. I personally could not pull it all the way back.. had to have a friend do it for me.
This was fun! Looking forward to next year.
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It stacks a little right at the end like you said, but not bad. I'll get used to it in no time and it's already more accurate than my Bear Grizzly recurve and waaaay shorter. You did a fantastic job on it, I couldn't be happier.
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Sounds like you guys are almost as happy with your bows as I am with mine! :bigsmyl:
Still looking at the bow Keenan sent me and trying to move the calendar up! Certainly glad they raised our bag limit on whitetails this year! Now I just have to decide on a stand location/set up... Ground blind? Ladder stand? Climber? Stalking? hmm. :archer2:
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Great! hope it serves you well!
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Great looking bows there.
57 bows received, 7 in the mail, 19 more in various states of completion. 68.67% complete over all. The 30 day grace is half up just so yall know.
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swiss I like the pic thread, I can send you the who built for who if you want me to. Since you have your bow now.
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I finally got my basement bow range setup and put a few more arrows through the bow KennyM made me. Without a doubt I'll be using it this fall/winter!!! Thanks again Kenny.
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Still no pictures for me yet of the great bow Walt Francis made me, but I'll get them up sooner than later. I really do love the way it shoots, feels, looks, etc. I've been putting it through its paces. It definitely is well mannered. Thanks so much again, Walt!
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In the process of tillering now. I'm far enough along that i'm going to shape the riser and start to finish her out. Whether I do that by shooting her in, or on the tree i'm not sure yet. I'll tell you what almost looks as good as Miami beach saturday mornings, is that brazilian cherry over that walnut.
I REALLY wanna see this one make it. It's the one my recipient has literally been waiting for.
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I hope who I sent my bow to likes it, I havent heard anything from him and he should have had it for about a week and a half :/
Great bows everyone :)
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Full draw and Happy Pics as Promised!!
Sweet man, this will be perfect in my blind!
:thumbsup:
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/mohunter68/FullDrawwithBradfordTradeBow004.jpg)
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww146/mohunter68/FullDrawwithBradfordTradeBow006.jpg)
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That is..... Mouth watering? Can I even say that?
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Gorgeous bow Chris!!! Now that's one glass bow that I could get use to. How 'bout some close-ups of the WHOLE thing. Congratulations! Art
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I hope your talking the bow and not them sexy shorts, legs and white socks :)
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Hahah!
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Ok here is everyone I am tracking as received. If I am wrong please shoot me a PM. If you dont see the person you made a bow for on this list and you know they have their bow (i.e. delivery conformation) let me know.
Stiks-n-Strings
Akmud
4est trekker
Pat B
Swissbow
hova
formerbutcher
ranger 3
John Scifres
Ken75
Bradford
DVSHUNTER
kodiakkid
Roy from PA
Fish n chicks
Inuumarue
va
lovethehunt
vanillabear?
kennym
canopyboy
red hill
scrub-buster
rogers
Trux Turning
SEMO_HUNTER
Bone lake
waldo320
fujimo
Juan
b.glass
burnt
twitchstick
K30bowfisher
Steven Russell
keenan
Hootsbow
West Texan
tenbrook
Monkey Wrench
Chisler
GREG IN MALAD
longbowhntr
BrianO
bowur
REBbowhunter
Aram
Jsweka
broketooth
Mark Smeltzer
Osagetree
Dick in Seattle
Gene Gillis
Under Control16
Balding Kansan
eagleone
James V
Ranger44
Dave Bowers
tradbower
I know I have a few bow in limbo in the mail.
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Here is the list I am tracking of those who have not received a bow yet.
John Lipinski
Dmaxshawn
Goose Gosett
No-sage
jess stuart
Diamondback59
NTD
H8nonCubs
razorback
Walt Francis
Shaun
bjansen
Dan Landis
KochNE
kerryb
Johan van Niekerk
Mike Mecredy
SaMb02
soopernate
Cuban Missile
1oldbowguy
eman16
scottm
I am tracking 7 bows in the mail. Let me know if I have goofed up something.
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Mine came this afternoon. A big thanks to eagleone. It looks great! The rural postal carrier was wondering what it was and when I explained it to him he thought it was awful heavy. I told him that's just the PVC tube. :)
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Originally posted by Balding Kansan:
I finally got my basement bow range setup and put a few more arrows through the bow KennyM made me. Without a doubt I'll be using it this fall/winter!!! Thanks again Kenny.
You are most welcome, does it shoot OK for ya?
Hope the weight was good too,send pics of that 1st critter with it to put on my site in trad trophies!
http://www.kennyscustomarchery.com/The_trophy_room.html
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kenny, have you at least heard from everyone and know that they're working on their bows yet? or are there a few unaccounted for?
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Originally posted by kennym:
Originally posted by Balding Kansan:
I finally got my basement bow range setup and put a few more arrows through the bow KennyM made me. Without a doubt I'll be using it this fall/winter!!! Thanks again Kenny.
You are most welcome, does it shoot OK for ya?
Hope the weight was good too,send pics of that 1st critter with it to put on my site in trad trophies!
Shoots very nice. So much more smooth than my 58" of similar design. I'll get you some pictures this fall. A "trophy" I can't promise, but it'll be a critter for sure.
http://www.kennyscustomarchery.com/The_trophy_room.html [/b]
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oh John most of the bows I know are being worked on. Most contact me only a few that have not. Heck I have had two complete and ship bows and I don't know it until someone posts received. It is coming together nicely.
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Originally posted by razorback:
I hope your talking the bow and not them sexy shorts, legs and white socks :)
You fellars been in the sticks too long, you should get to town more often! :saywhat: :goldtooth: :laughing:
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I just got done looking at the post of pics by Swissbow. I am shocked at the quantity of quality bows in this swap. It would be so amazingly cool to get as many of us together to do a shoot with these. Southern Indiana is about in the middle of most of us. I'm having a hunt in October. Bring your bows :)
Great job everyone. Really, really awesome work!
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Originally posted by John Scifres:
I just got done looking at the post of pics by Swissbow. I am shocked at the quantity of quality bows in this swap. It would be so amazingly cool to get as many of us together to do a shoot with these. Southern Indiana is about in the middle of most of us. I'm having a hunt in October. Bring your bows :)
Great job everyone. Really, really awesome work!
:biglaugh: I'll bring the jungle juice!
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Originally posted by SaMbO2:
I hope who I sent my bow to likes it, I havent heard anything from him and he should have had it for about a week and a half :/
Great bows everyone :)
Sam, did you put tracking and insurance on it? Send the guy a PM and ask him if he got a package in the mail, couldn't hurt.
Or ask Kelly or Stiks to send him an email. I wouldn't just let it go without knowing.
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John, I agree, just finished going through all the photos and must say I'd be proud to give any of them a home. Really nice stuff going on here at the trade!!!!
Andy, thanks for taking the time to put all this together.....Dan
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SaMbO2,
It can take a little bit to get there just ask akmud. I know the bowyer you sent has contacted me and told me he had a recent death in the family so that might also put a delay on them getting on here. I don't know if they recieved it yet. I had sent them a PM for somthing else and when they respond to that one I will ask if he got it, if he does not post an update.
I agree with all those great bows I dont think one is a subpar bow.
Kelly
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Alright thanks KellyG.
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Originally posted by John Scifres:
I just got done looking at the post of pics by Swissbow. I am shocked at the quantity of quality bows in this swap. It would be so amazingly cool to get as many of us together to do a shoot with these. Southern Indiana is about in the middle of most of us. I'm having a hunt in October. Bring your bows :)
Great job everyone. Really, really awesome work!
Sign me up. You got room for 80?
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Im in too. Sounds like a good time in the making. Hope you realize you might get more people to crash your hunt than you might have thought :campfire: :campfire: :campfire:
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Here are pics of the great bow I received from the Balding Santa no thats the Balding Kansan, just might take this to Eldons Barr Hunting.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2954.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2953.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2952.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2951.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/tradbowr/IMG_2950.jpg)
Thanks for a great bow.
PS I was shooting for the bottle cap at 15 yrds.
Pete
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I forgot to mention about the great job Tyler did on packaging. I went back and read his post about what he used in the riser wrap,an old boot tounge or insole. Well I take the bow out of the tube and there is an "OLD SOCK" with holes(the socks smelled Downey fresh) wrapped on each end of bow. I know why know I received this bow in only 1 day Priority Mail. NO DAMAGE
Thanks Again Tyler for "GREAT BOW"
Pete
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Heres the bow I received from Brian O.
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k282/dlbowers/20110727194450.jpg)
Two separate groups from 10 yrds
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k282/dlbowers/20110727194743.jpg)
Thanks for a great bow :thumbsup: she's a real shooter and I think she's gonna go deer hunting with me this year.
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All I can say is I can't wait until NEXT YEAR!
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60 bows received now 23 waiting on theirs and 5 in the mail. 72% complete at this point.
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Boy there's some really sweet lookin bows crawling out of the wood work now......literally! Great job to all the guys coming through in the clutch, never give up. :thumbsup:
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Ok guys, I hope I haven't forgotten/overlooked to many pics on my way through the whole 2157 posts of this thread. If you have pics of your trade bow that you think would be nice to show, feel free to post in the picture-thread, or let me know so I can add them.
I'm absolutely overwhelmed by the quality of the bows of this swap. I'm on a few other archery forums, but I have never seen such a huge amount of high quality bows in one place. Thumbs up to all that participated in the swap !!!
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Andy
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Thanks for taking the time to look up and post all of the Bow Trade bows Andy. This really showcases the great work of all involved and the generosity of all involved.
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I have both horn lams ready for glue up. I'm a little worried about glue lines. I want them perfect and I'm working on the best way to do this.
The python skins came and they don't look to bad.
John, again, I am planning on making it to the deer hunt. I really think I will get there this time. It would be awsome if a bunch of us could be there with our trade bows!
The photo gallery is wonderful Swissbow! I was thinking of going through this thread to see them all, now I don't have too!
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Bona, have you tried using bicycle tire tubes and wrap your bow after glueing. I got my best glue lines using these when I made backed bows. They are free from any bike shop.
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I might try that Pat.
I have glued small pcs of leather on my 1 1/2 c clamps and I will do another mock glue up to see if that will work better than the strips of plexi glass I was going to use.
I might try your idea on the other limb especially if my plan doesn't work.
The center of the belly is flat but the outside edges are rounded. It will probably make a shootable bow if the glue lines aren't so pretty but not a bow I want to give to someone.
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Bona, pull the "tube" bands as tight as you can. I don't think you can get them too tight. You may have top add screw clamps at the fades to insure good glue lines there.
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I glued up my boo backed bow that I'm working on with pegs through a board for my jig and used inner tubes for clamping and it came out great.
I didn't wrap it. I cut my tubes length ways and started at one end and went back and forth over the bow and hooked it on the pegs the length of the bow.
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"I have both horn lams ready for glue up. I'm a little worried about glue lines. I want them perfect and I'm working on the best way to do this."
Bona, for what it's worth.......If you use Urac you can wrap it in saran wrap before clamping or inner tubing it in place and the plastic wrap will hold the glue up against the sides. This will allow the Urac to cure in place where it needs to fill the edges rather than run off down the sides leaving a void on the edge of your glue lines. As long as the Urac is held in place until it sets up it will fill the voids, then when you sand off the edges it will look nice and filled.
This works for me, maybe it will help for what your going to do with the horn?
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Bona, perfection is a wonderful thing to try to attain, but don't let it beat you up. I have made many really nice pieces of wooden furniture along with several bows, and while they were very good everyone has an issue that I know about. Perfect, no but real nice anyway. I'm sure your recipient will be extremely happy with your bow. I believe it is unique in that it is the only horn bellied bow in the bunch. Also stop watching Swisbow's thread, that is intimidating as all heck for those of us still working on our bows.
P.S. Even DaVinci forgot the eyebrows on the Mona Lisa :)
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Oh how very true Razor, true dat.
I've seen very few picture perfect bows without a noticable flaw somewhere and never built one myself. Like Tony said, others probably won't be able to find the flaws but you yourself know where they are. Doesn't matter, cause I'm sure your bow will be very nice Bona and I can't wait to see it when your done. :thumbsup:
I've not seen many attempt what your doing so that's a testiment right there to how much you care about doing your absolute best. That's what this is all about.
I agree about the bow picture thread too, it's pretty humbling to see what others are capable of building, I just keep saying to myself "Someday when I grow up" LOL :goldtooth:
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Originally posted by tradbower:
I forgot to mention about the great job Tyler did on packaging. I went back and read his post about what he used in the riser wrap,an old boot tounge or insole. Well I take the bow out of the tube and there is an "OLD SOCK" with holes(the socks smelled Downey fresh) wrapped on each end of bow. I know why know I received this bow in only 1 day Priority Mail. NO DAMAGE
Thanks Again Tyler for "GREAT BOW"
Pete
You're welcome. I can't believe you smelled my old sock! Yes, they were clean but you didn't know that! I'm just sayin', that was dangerous, you've never seen my feet!!!!!
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Thanks everybody! It feels less daunting now.
BTW, if you had a can of Urac in the fridge but the date is 6/30/10 would you use if on your trade bow?
I know, it's cheap. And so what I have to wait for another can to be delivered.... I'd better get a new can.
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I received my trade bow from Kodiac kid, I am very proud to be the recipent of such a great bow, I found time to shoot it a few times and it shot great 20 yards three arrows all touching. Im sure it will draw blood this fall, Thanks so much for a great bow and the three hand crafted arrows.
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Bona, if the Urac has been in the frig all along it should be OK. IT has only been one year.
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Kerryb I got you marked down. So that is 61 bows revived now and 22 still waiting bows but 5 are in the mail.
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Thus...I have a roughly 25% chance of having mine in the mail :D
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We got a shooter! I final sanded last night and started finishing her. I shot her as much as I could, with a duct tape arm guard, and no finger tabs. I literally shot her, over the course of two nights, until my left hand's shooting fingers went totally black and blue. I just didn't want to stop shooting. Bare shaft at 8 yards doesn't tell you much, but at 2 am setting up the targets in the yard, and spot lights is not a great idea. It did tell me, however, that this thing is a blast to shoot. I am hoping to have her done by the Elm Hall shoot next weekend. Take her up there for her graduation party, then ship the following week.
I hope *******_**@** likes it. It only took me 6 times to get it right!
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Fish don't forget to post some pics of your boy helping and congrats on getting her done
Stiks
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until my left hand's shooting fingers went totally black and blue
Looks like its for a lefty, rats thats not me. Can't complain as mine isn't done yet either, but getting close, just need the last couple of coats of poly, a string and a big old tube.
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Originally posted by Inuumarue:
For all of you guys still waiting, just to narrow the list of possible bowyers I got mine in today from Brad/Monkey Wrench. Shes a looker for sure and the three arrows I got to shoot before the rain came in were very promising. I'm looking forward to taking it out for some more. I'll get some money shots up when the weather turns nice again.
Thanks Brad!
Adam
I glad to see the bow is shooting well for ya. With all the arrows I flung, she seemed to zip them right along. Although the ipe/boo combo is frustrating to build, they sure sling an arrow quickly.
Sorry I could not respond to this sooner, my son has been playing in the little league world series, we were there all week...BECAUSE HE TOOK 3RD PLACE!!! Not bow-related I know, but I am one proud papa.
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Originally posted by Stiks-n-Strings:
Fish don't forget to post some pics of your boy helping and congrats on getting her done
Stiks
Wish I could say he helped me on this one Stiks, but I had pretty much between the hours of 10pm n 2/3am (wake up at 6 everyday) to work on it. He was pretty much done for by the time I can get going, and i've been doing that for a good 2.5 weeks working on this bow. BUT, we are going to start on his bow along side one for the MI longbow assoc. that I will be making. We're going to start on them once I mail this one to a lucky lady in Kansas. His will be his, but the one I'd be making will be a youth bow that traveled with the club, hopefully to attract more youth to the world of archery. I will do a build a long for those for sure.
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Jonah that is correct, but I will tell you after looking at my sheet your either have a 0% chance yours is in the mail or a 100% chance but I will never tell which one. :)
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Well I finally got to get home and open the tube that has been sitting here all by its lonesome and boy shes a beaut. Mr Rob Lund sure did a fine job. A hickory backed red oak pyramid style bow and as quiet as a mouse! I'll try to get some pics soon. Thanks Mr. Lund for a fine bow.
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Lefty...I guess that leaves me out. UNLESS hes a lefty shooting a bow for a righty. I have been in that boat before mahself
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put in some hours today. got the back down to one solid smooth ring. it really is gorgeous. its still really thick (no less than 3/4" im sure at the tips) so im going to tiller it a couple inches on the sides to make sure its all bending evenly, then smooth the belly. 1" wide at the tips still , so she's a heavy one. im actually guessing 70# @ 2"
...hope i didnt just give it away did i...nope...
tomorrow morning is hardcore tillering time. i want to have her shooting tomorrow afternoon , take her to my ol' mans place , put a couple dozen through to make sure she's good , and put a finish/grip on her and send it packin.
i still have like 8 days right?
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She is in glue up as we speak. This time tomorrow we'll see how she's doing.
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Originally posted by b.glass:
She is in glue up as we speak. This time tomorrow we'll see how she's doing.
:pray:
b.glass, are you by chance taking pics of all the steps in your build? I really dig seeing anything built with horn!
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I had intended to take more pictures than I have.
I was just on my way out to take a pic of her in glue up. I wish I had taken pictures of the horn when it was ready for glue. They are like a long teardrop shape and I had them bending in a nice arc when I thought they were as good as it was going to get.
I got alot of good tips from the horn belly build along by John (I don't think I'm going to spell this right) Stervantis (?). I had to use some of my own ideas to make it work for me.
I want to make another one gluing the horn on before the belly has been radiused at all. I think it would be easier at the very least.
Maybe I could do post build along.
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Just a reminder that the 8th of August is the end of the 30 day extension. If you have not contacted me, Sticks or even on here on where you are at on your bow please do so. All in all it is coming to gather nicely. Keep up the great work.
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John Sturtevant is the guy that did the pictorial.
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I took her out of glue up and she has some glue line issues. I did one limb with clamps and the other with inner tube.
The inner tube would have been atleast as good as the clamped one except I forgot to put a clamp near the fade like Pat suggested.
I mixed up some more Urac and filled in the gaps. I think it will be ok.
Oh ya, I used the saran wrap idea too. Using it again now.
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hope them lines work out bona.
i just got in from a 5 hour rasp fest. i took a couple pics. hoping the knot midlimb on one side isnt going to get in the way too much. the warmth outside must have made the stave open a bit , cause last time i left the bow , she had a full knot , and today there was just a hole there. found the plug about a foot away on the ground... hope a holey bow is ok with ***** *********...then again hope its ok with the bow too...
-hov
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I finally got my bow shipped off. Apologies to all for being late. Here is one last look right before it went into the box.
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It shoots for me!
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Riser, arrow rest is self adhesive Velcro.
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I love these veneers, Golden Rain.
The bow should arrive at it's destination mid to late next week. Shipping via UPS freight.
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now that's attractive, k30bowfisher.
you built it great, and it looks like a great design
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A bow worth waiting for I'd say! Lovely!
My bow is about a pound and a half over the target weight and it looks like only the upper limb needs to be tillered.
The glue lines will need more cosmetic work but it's going pretty good!
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You're a big tease b.glass!
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K30bowfisher that is another fine example of the bows coming out of this swap.
B I can't wait to see that horn bow, that is my goal someday to make one of them.
Hova keep at, I am sure it will be one of your best yet.
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Been away camping with my dauter for the last couple of days, but after getting in and cleaning up I put the first poly coat on her. Will get another couple of coats wiped on and make up a string, then she will be on her way, after a little more shooting, just to make sure she's alright :)
Will post some pics if I get my computer fixed. Using my daughter iPad at the moment, so no pics.
Bona, when we going to see pics, I'm super curious about your bow, along with all the others still out their.
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bowfisher, that is a beautiful bow! Well done.
Razorback, is poly hard to wash off daughters? LOL.
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Beautiful work bowfisher!You cant rush perfection!Cant wait to see some pics b.glass.
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Ya, them daughters can stick like glue!
Well, now I have a real problem. After stringing and bending a little the horn on the lower limb where it meets the fade has come lose about 2 in. (You know, where I should have put a clamp).
I'm thinking a little thin CA them some thick and clamp.
Bona
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1st pic showing the reflex. Reflex was glued in with the bamboo and it still had a smidgen before the horn. I put some back in with the horn glue up.
Last pic is an attempt to show the gaps in the glue line.
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b that is going to be a great bow, I bet ca or your other glue would work, just guessing.
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Ok, so I mixed up some more Urac to fill in some voids in the glue line and while I was doing that I decided to use a stanley knife blade to push some of the urac up into the loose spot.
It's clamped down now. Have to just wait and see.
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Holding her still to get a good even coat on was the hard part. Wonder how she will react when a take the steel wool to her to smooth it put.
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This swap has been pretty amazing, so many nice bows being traded around. Fun thing to participate in. Hope my swapper likes it.
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Bowfisher, I can't imagine anyone not being happy with that one, she's a real beauty!!!!
Bona, slow and steady wins the race, just keep on doing what you've been doing. Just a thought, if the bow is still a little over the intended draw weight would narrowing the limbs a little help your glue line dilema at all? Just thinking out loud....Dan
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Some great looking bows being finished up. Kinda nice to still be waiting on one. Some great ones have already shipped but, man what a great group that will be going out soon. It will be exciting here for a couple of weeks.
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k30: no one is going to open that bow and say anything but HOLY SHIpping insurance!
then the guy in the next yard over tells you to shut the front door...
im taking wood off like i have never done before , and its just laughing at my efforts.. its been a while since i have had to do knocks , and boy do i hate them. no matter what i do they just slip like crazy...
-hov
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Getting closer to shipment!
All I had working today was a green sharpie :rolleyes:
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Nice work K30 and B glass
K30, I like how you glued up that riser.
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I can't wait till I start building so I can join in this next year. This is one of my favorite threads to watch. Just amazing. Thanks guys! :campfire:
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What ya wait'n for? :dunno:
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I agree with glass... whattya waitin for snakebit!?
Looks like my linseed oil is finally about dried. I had to string her up and shoot her again. I got my son to snap a pic while bare shafting in the garage a bit before I put her away again. I think I see some positive tiller, but I also had it canted a bit of course. What does the gang think? Excuse the background, not all pics are high budget!
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you need to show more pics, fish. i certainly wanna see what you been workin on. rv
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Really soon Ruddy! I'm hoping to have her tung oiled up over the next couple of nights. Then pics before the weekend, then taking her up to a shoot mid-state, then back and shipped out early next week.
Of course, I HOPE that's how it all goes down.
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Originally posted by b.glass:
What ya wait'n for? :dunno:
I'm saving to buy a Bingham Kit to learn. I can't wait! I'm working on a board bow right now but really want to learn how to build lamination bows.
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Lam not to lam, self not a self I have not seen a bow here That I would not be pround to call my own. Be it a board, sapling, osage, white wood, lam, or glass. I would like to get the self bows down but a glass bow would be cool to make just because of all the other wood that become avalible. Snake get to work and post pics so the gang can help you out. can't wait to see the last bow shipped. Only becuase I want to see them all.
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I am so impressed with the effort that everyone has put into this swap and the quallity of bows being built is incredible. Well done, great testimony of the character of the members of this site
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I will ship this as soon as I can, if I can ever quit shooting it.
I hope the owner likes it.
It is a hand felled, hand tooled, osage blacksnake skinned selfbow 62"" 62# @ 28" - Whitetail antler tips with a stringer groove, leather handle wrap with a whitetail antler shelf, covered with a Southern Ohio roadkill blacksnake skin and about 10 coats of wipe-one poly. And,,, a hand twisted dacron B-50 string with mink fur silencers.
Click here for a short slide show of the "North American Roadkill" selfbow:
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beautiful bow Osagetree!I loved the slide show!Im glad im not the only one who picks up road kill.I skinned a black snake not long ago i picked up off the road in front of the house.(wife says im nutts but she said that before i picked up the dead snake).
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Nice looking bows fellas. Very nice bows, if any of 'em are passin through mo this week I know a guy who'd put one(or both) to good use!
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K30Bowfisher...that bow is absolutely gorgeous. Osagetree likewise. You guys are the shizzle no doubt. 13 days to antelope season here in Montana. Heh heh heh...
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Looking good guys and gal!
I stated earlier that being late was not the issue, being late with no communication here is. As long as the late shippers (myself included) give updates I don't think the recipients get to concerned. So with that being said every body can relax and build the best bow they can.
Stiks
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Great looking bow Joe, just let me know when you ship her out.
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stiks thats some calming advice. while i am trying to get her done , i dont want to rush things , nor want anyone else to rush something like this. take yer time , do it right.
o-tree : a+ as always.
-hov
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Here's the long-overdue pics of the fine bow I received from Walt Francis. It's a tri-lam bamboo backed ipe. It fits me like a glove, Walt! Thanks!
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4est,
We understand you were just too busy shooting her. Yet another fine example of the class act this trad is and of the folks inside of the trade.
Kelly
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Beautiful work O-Tree and Walt!
Can you guys imagine what a booth would look like with all these trade bows on display?? Insaneness, i'm sure.
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Do you ever have trouble getting a spot to move while tillering?
I have scraped and measured, scraped and measured, marked and scraped.......and I just can't get that upper limb to bend better!
I'm using my gizmo, and I'm measuring 10" from center on both limbs and the lower limb is bending about 1/4" more than the upper limb.
I'm excersizing the bow 25-30 pulls between scraping and the tree.
I came in for a break and maybe some advice.
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As soon as I asked for help the limb started showing improvement.
As soon as I asked for advice the limb started bending better. I think I'm done. It's a little over a lb of being at target wieght.
Looks like the right limb could bend a little more near the tip. What do you all think?
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Looking at the picture again I definitely see a flat spot. But the horn is getting kind of thin there.
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Looks good, B. Can't wait to see her finished.
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Bona,
Stop working it on the tree. Get some shots of it in your hand. I bet it looks pretty good like that. Shoot it and make sure it feels good in the hand and then shoot her in. It looks great. Can't wait to see the finished pics.
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Like John said, get it off the tree and shoot it.
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I shot her some tonight and she seems to shoot pretty good to me.
I will get some pics of her drawn by hand. And get her shot in soon.
Thanks guys!
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Seeing the creation by 4est, osage tree & b.glass I'm starting to feel pretty happy with the fact that I'm still waiting :)
You guys are making beautiful bows!
I'm totally jealous though....the ONLY roadkill snakes I ever find is completely minced up. Been keeping an eye out for a nice big puffadder on the local roads for almost 2 years now.
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Johan,
The trick to finding a good road kill snake is swerving to avoid the snake just right so you, unfortunately, :knothead: just don't make it and only the head gets caught under the tires. Damned shame really as we try hard to look out for all the little critters. :bigsmyl:
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Originally posted by razorback:
The trick to finding a good road kill snake is swerving to avoid the snake just right...
:smileystooges: :laughing:
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thats awesome bona.
as for snakes , my old man tells me that "down home" there is a tree (he thinks sycamore) that in the heat of summer will have over 100 snakes hanging in it (aybe he said cypress)... anyways , we hunt down there , so you better believe ill be getting some skins come deer season...
got a half a day today from 2-5 so i going to go out and get some "me time" in with the bow and get her really moving.
have a great day tg'ers , its almost the weekend.
-hov
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Very nice Osagetree!
Your not the only one who picks up road kill either, if they aren't all mangled I'll jump into a major hwy to grab a snake before it's completely destroyed.
Ain't no shame in recycling and I just look at it as little gifts from Heaven. Waste not, want not.
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Wanted to add Bona and K30 to the list of back pats, nice bows to both of you! Some people still waiting will be dang happy they are still on the list of people not recieved yet.
Bona- I agree with John and Roy, just shoot er in cause it looks great from where I'm sitting. You might be too critical on yourself?
Fantastic work to everybody.
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I got her out of the hot box just a few minutes ago to pull her to target draw length a few times. My son has said he would shoot her for me but I wanted to work her in myself some.
She has gained 5 lbs overnight! Do you figure she picked up that much humidity while being tillered yesterday, then lost it overnight at 40% humidity?
Bona
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I seen a dead snake on the road this AM running. it was too mangled and I have not seen any over about 3' and most are about as big around as a jump rope. But smothing about a 17 ton vechical running them over just does not leave much, I guess I could just set it aside and put the whole thing on a limb at that point.
Bona I will get back to you on your PM after I get to my room and look at my data.
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Kelly all ya need ta do is carry a spachulla in da truck witch cha. It makes gettin em off da road much easeier. :bigsmyl:
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I feel sorry for those who have received their swap bow and I also feel really bad for those who have not. I received the best bow of the whole lot, so everyone else will have to settle for just a bit less. K30bowfisher did a absolutely wonderful job on the bow. If I could have had my pick of all the bows on the swap to date this would have been my pick.
She is not only a looker but she shoots real good also. I can't believe my luck, thanks a million. Haven't had a chance to take any pics yet to busy admiring and flinging arrows.
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Jess,
Glad you like it and I hope it works well for you. I think that you may still have been short changed, that longbow you built for the swap was completely awesome.
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Jess, I'm happy for ya, brother. But... We may need another thread to argue over which of ya'll got the second best bow since I was gifted with the most fantabulous of the trade. (Thanks again, Keenan, and its okay if they're road kill rattlers.)
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Mark me down as recieved. Got a very nice red oak board bow from twitchstick today. Paper backed, bendy handle, leather grip and cherry tips. Would love to tell you how she shoots but have disciplined myself that I will not shoot it until I get my bow in the mail. This should happen Saturday, if the humidity lets the finish set up.
Thanks Twitch, she looks great and will post soe pics real soon.
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Ok these are the last twenty bowyers who have not received a bow. let me know if you are on this list and should not be or if you are not on this list and you should be. There are 4 bows in mailed.
eman16
1oldbowguy
Cuban Missile
soopernate
scottm
SaMb02
Mike Mecredy
Johan van Niekerk
Walt Francis
Shaun
bjansen
Dan Landis
KochNE
H8nonCubs
Diamondback59
NTD
No-sage
Dmaxshawn
Goose Gosett
John Lipinski
We are at 76% complete.
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I once gave a young teenage gentleman one of my black locust bows with a snake skin on it. He ended up killing a 10 point with it two weeks later. Ever since then,,, he brings me every road kill or havest he can get. HE bags and freezes them and brings them to me each summer. This one was torn up pretty bad so the pattern does not run exactly true down the limbs. Gotta move them around some to avoid the holes ya know.....
I will harvest live snakes if I have the chance, when I feel like it & if my fishing permit is current. It's legal in Ohio as long as you follow the rules.
I've also caught them in my minnow traps by accident but, I didn't let those waste either.
Sorry,,, I'm back on topic now.
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You guys can argue about 2nd best bow all ya like, cause a 2 piece osage selfbow that shoots like the one Broketooth made for me is IMPOSSIBLE to beat. Especially since it came with a sleeve and arrows to boot.
I am currently putting the finish on the my bow Kelly. I am gonna take her up to Elm Hall with me this weekend to try the course with her, and about 4 other bows. I will be putting her in the mail early next week once I get the packing stuff.
I will report once it's in the mail.
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Hope to see ya there Fish!
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Razorback, I'm certain I couldn't honor a vow like that. I'd turn the flood lights on and shoot in the dark. Or stand under the carport and shoot out into the rain. 'Bout had a fit when my wife made me wait to open the bow so she could see, too.
Stan
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The mail carrier almost gave the big one today when she came up the driveway honking the horn, about broke my neck to get there and then she hands me a box from QVC. I was quite disappointed, but then I see all these bows being completed soon and I know the best is yet to come....Dan
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That would be my luck next year Dan I would trip and fall running to get the mail person and trip and fall and break my arm. Then just sit around hold the bow til it healed. So nest year whoever make mine early so I can have time to heal up and shoot it before deer season.
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I need these bowyers to contact me ASAP or Stiks before this next dead line.
No-sage
NTD
bowur
KochNE
If any of you know them let them know to contact me or stiks
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Thanks Kelly I was just getting ready to post the same thing
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Welcome Stiks it all part of the job.
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I'm having a tough time getting my finish to dry in this ridamndiculous weather. Hopefully by the time I get home tonight I can start shooting her again, and get her weighed. Pics to come soon.
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Hi, guys... lots of activity. I haven't been posting last week plus.. been too darn sick. I'm home again, though, and on the way to being better... they say. Some comments on that:
1. if you have a cold that really lingers, get it looked at. It could be walking pneumonia. Mine was.
2. If you have walking pneumonia, don't get food poisoning. Already weakened, it'll damn near kill you!
3. When you're old and you get this sick, you get scared it's something worse than it maybe is.
Aside from all that, I've noted the number of you having problems getting finishes to set up. I made a "drying tube"... big piece of plastic sewer pipe. Cut it in half lengthwise and hinged it, cut one half off a foot short. I hang the bow from the ceiling, then close the tube around it and set a floor heater with a fan in front of the short side's opening at floor level. I can get three coats of rubbed out TruOil on in a day with no trouble. Even where you have high heat an humidity, just the moving air should be a big help.
Just realized, those of you with wiggly limbs would need a real big pipe. With my straight bows, 10 to 12" works fine.
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Glad to hear you're doing better Dick! I will have to investigate your drying tube idea. Right now, I have my bow on finisher's triangles on bench cookies to keep em from slipping, with a fan blowing at it. We'll see how it works later when i get home.
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Dang Dick! I'm glad your back home and starting to feel better!
I've had that "walking pnuemonia" stuff, twice! But I was a bit younger than I am now. And you had food poisoning too?!
You take care!
Bona
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Man thats rough Dick! I wondered why you haven't ben posting.So glad to here that your feeling better.Take care,Scott
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glad to see you still with it dick. hang in there.
been workin the limbs down. still really thick and im hella HELLA nervous about this knot midlimb. ill get some pics up later...
-hov
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I might be out of the loop for a few days. If you ship on Monday let me know. I believe the 30 day extension is up on Monday. Communication with stiks or myself is important more so now then ever.
Great job so far everyone keep working on them bows just let us know where you are at.
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Here is "Dark Continent" after being "shot in", that's 200 pulls to full draw on the tillering tree.
The tiller doesn't look perfect but he might be canting her a bit. Any opinions?
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If it flings an arrow where I am looking great, if not then I need to start looking where it is flinging the. :) looks good to me B.
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Hey, that looks pretty good to me, b! Like that profile.
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Here's another shot with my husband pulling it. Neither pic has it pulled quite to full draw.
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Think the tiller looks better in this second pic.
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Looks nice Bona..
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Looks good from where I'm sitting "B". Has it taken on any set with the horn belly, just curious, might want to try it in the future....Dan
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Looks Good Bona.
I did some more work on mine tonight, Hopefully as long as all goes well it will be in the mail by the end of the week or next week at the latest.
There are a few guys that I haven't seen hide nor hair from and They will likely be booted out of the swap if I don't hear from them within a day or two.
Hate for it to be like that but I ain't running in circles for months again trying to chase down a few, ain't gonna let Kelly do it either. The bowyers who are holding the bow they built per request from Kelly will be notified by the end of the week who to ship to.
Thanks, Stiks
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I will get you Bowyers your new mailing addresses if they others end up being no shows. Don't worry it worked out great that the ones that have me worried had the same specks as the ones they were building for.
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Looks good to me Bona.
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Bona, the second pic shows the tiller right on. The first pic makes the bottom limb look too strong.
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Got mine finished and should go in the tube tonight, as long as the last coat of poly has set well. Then in the mail tomorrow.
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Thanks all.
Pat, that's what I thought. Could that be from the bow being canted in the first picture?
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Bona,
The picture angle could be part of it. Also, how the bow is gripped and the pressure is applied with the fingers will affect how the tiller look, especially on low poundage bows.
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kelly mark me as recived i been scoutin elk the last 2 weks vince anderson sent me a nice edge grain osage take down 65# will post pics soon brock
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Well I believe this time tomorrow I should be posting a list of those who is building for who unless I have you as shipped already if you shipped today let me know. And if you have received one let me know. I also have 3 bows on hold tomorrow I will get you the new addresses tomorrow, if I still have not heard from those 3.
It is important that you let me know when you send and receive your bows so I don't hound ya to much. :)
I hope all have had fun as this thing heads into wrapping up. I have that is for sure, thanks stiks for letting me join in the fun in a small way.
Kelly
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did you find me a nice bull brock?
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Bona that bow is S L I C K...
you did a nice job lady. Sure hope I am the on the receiving end of that one. Crossing the fingers........
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Kelly, I can honestly say this has been a heck of a lot of fun! I've enjoyed every aspect of this bow swap. Most of my friends, family and co-workers are tired of hearing about and viewing all the bows built during this great event.
Can't wait 'til school starts Monday so I can show my snake bow to my kids! They'll be jealous as all get out! :bigsmyl:
By the way, thank you for all the work you've put into this and please come home safe.
Stan
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Thanks soopernate! I hope you are too! :D
Dan she has taken some set. She had about an inch or so of reflex to start with and now the upper limb is straight and the lower limb has 1/4 inch of deflex. I'm very happy with that.
Now I get to start making her real perty!
Bona
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Kelly, bow is in its tube and in the car. Will take a break from work this morning and send her on her way.
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Hey if it helps I have a couple of bows o could swap if you have a no show? Or i can build one in. LIL bit....... Just let me know although seeing all these awesome bows is a bit intimidating
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Razorback,
I marked you down as shipped. That makes it four in the mail. I will give a better report later.
Badwithabow thanks as of right now we are good but that could change any second.
Kelly
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hey dvs yep im findin some big bulls take a look on pa at string mans post pics of possible new world record bull moose under ol uly im headin back up the 25 th kelly mark me as recived just got the pacakge from sanyjane lol cant wait to open it lol brock
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ok Damondback59 I have you as received. Did any one else get there bows shipped today besides Razorback?
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im still workin on tiller. ill have a couple hours tomorrow mornin so ill get to it and hopefully get it down close to finish. the sheer weight that osage has is amazing. it just isnt dropping weight very fast.
ill get a pic or two of the knot. im hoping osage is forgiving.
-hov
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Mine is done Kelly, and should be in the mail within a couple of days. I will certainly let you know when it is. I also have to get some pics up.
And if you think you helped "in a small way", I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
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Originally posted by fish n chicks:
And if you think you helped "in a small way", I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you.
:clapper:
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Thanks so much Kelly and Stiks for taking the time to set this swap up.This is my second year and its ben a blast to see it all unfold.I cant wait for next year.Best wish to all involved,Scott
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Bow is Finished and in route. My comp is acting up so I will try and post pics. Later
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Kelly,
Are you going to disclose who is left to send a bow to who then? If so, I will just post pics with my recipient's name exposed. I wanted to get my person some arrows made up too, but I don't know if i'll have enough time. I may just delay shipment in order to do some up. I figure waiting another week after waiting this long for arrows too wouldn't be too bad.
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Fish I have sent the list to stiks to give it a once over. As soon as he give me the thumbs I will post it minus the ones that shipped before the dead line. You can still cover the name. You may get it out, and I may just slip you down to the shipped group if I have not posted the list yet.
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I got a PM from Kelly with the list and I gave it some thought and decided that if you have not recieved a bow yet and want to know who your builder is you can send me or Kelly a PM.
Sambo2's bow will be in the mail by the end of the week as well as Johan Van Niekerk's. I promise guys it will be worth the wait as well as the others that are waiting.
1oldbowguy, eman16,and scottm should be recieving a bow if they have not already. Let me or Kelly know when you get it.
John Lipinski, Dmaxshawn, Goose Gossett, H8nonCubs, Johan van Niekerk, SaMb02, soopernate, Cuban Missile, Shaun, Walt Francis, bjansen, Dan Landis and Mike Mecredy are the ones that have not recieved a bow yet. If you do not see your name here and have not recieved a bow let me or Kelly know
The four that are banned from all future trades are No-sage, NTD, Bowur, and KocheNE. If any one knows how to contact these guys have them get ahold of me ASAP. They have had plenty of opportunity to let me or Kelly know what is going on.
Bowur recieved his bow and posted about it and as far as my knowledge that was his last post and he fell off the map back in April.
Next year any one that recieves specs for some one who has not been in the previous swaps will hold the bow they build until I give the OK to ship. I know the percentage is pretty good considering the # of sign ups we had but this is the second time a guy got a bow and did not deliver and disappeared. This is the only thing I can think of that will stop it.
I will have Kelly send the three builders who where contacted to hold their bow with shipping info so they can ship.
Any questions just get ahold of me or Kelly.
Stiks
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The address have been sent, and I tell you it could not have worked out any better on that. All of those who did not come through had the same stats as the ones they were building for.
Please let me know when you ship and receive good effort from all.
Ok with those changes
We have 80 bowyers 64 bows received, 3 mailed and 16 awaiting bows, We are at 77% complete.
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I am nearing completion of "Dark Continent"!
I need to know any opinions on if you think true oil will adhere to a waxy surface. I want to wrap the limbs where the python skin stops and want to know if bow string material will work.
I'm assuming the finish goes over the wrap?
I'm also thinking about using fullerplast.
Bona
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Bona, Yes, the finish goes over the wrap. I don't think that tru oil or almost any finish will adhere to the waxed bow string material. I have used serving for several wraps with good success, mine is not waxed though. Hope this helps.....Dan
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Thanks Dan, I will find an alternative.
Bona
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no bow yet sticks, but i will be watching the mail much harder now that i know my bow is in route. i will be sure and let you guys know when it arrives.
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Bona,
Just a brainstorm but I bet unwaxed dental floss will work, and heck you could die it any color you want.
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Bona, any good thread will work for the wraps. I use silk from 3Rivers...but any will work! There really isn't any stress there, it basically keeps the skin from lifting there and dresses it up a bit. I usually use super glue but TB glue will work. After it cures I sand with very fine sandpaper and add another layer of super glue, sand again and then add any finish. I use Tru-Oil.
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I just wanted to say that I'm really enjoying the bow I got from H8nonCubs. I still owe a picture or two. I keep watching and hoping he gets his bow soon -- wondering which one it will be...
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That's really sad about those guys who committed to this bow swap, then just dropped the ball and ran away. I understand that life gets in the way, but even if you have to go to the library and use a public computer to let Stiks or Kelly know what's going on, that's all it takes to do the right thing. There's no excuse for silence or pulling a Houdini act or hiding from view, be a stand up guy and let somebody know what's going on with you.
And by rights Bowur should hand over the one he got to the guy who he was supposed to build for. That's completely unacceptable behavior in my opinion.
I just hope it works out for those guys still waiting for their bow. I can't help but feel sorry for you fellas who got jilted, that really sucks!
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i might have to forward my bow. the knot is a big concern. im going to work it no matter what , but its going slower than i'd like.
maybe just forward it as a 'check this out until yours is done' kinda deal.
havent seen or heard from my recip yet. will keep at it until i hear otherwise. or something bad happens.
walkin out the door to work , ill be on later with the pics
-hov
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I like that idea Kelly, resourceful and inexpensive.
John Strunk uses size D nylon fishing line in red. I tried to google that and was having trouble finding it. Found something cool I want to try sometime though.
Pat, I couldn't find my spool of silk but was thinking it might be too thin for this anyway. The python skins are thicker than the rattler skins I'm use to. I would have tried it if I could have found it anyway. I was thinking some glue would be in order but didn't see where anyone has used it before. I will do as you suggest.
Thanks everbody!
Bona
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Semo it is all ok things are in works behind the scene to make it all right. Now lets not focus on the .05% who could make this bad thing, but the 99.95% who made this a wonderful event.
Now lets see them last few bows.
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Bona, what about the braided fishing line? Stuff is spectra I think, very strong, glues well, and comes in colors to differentiate poundage (yellow, red, green, etc)?
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I was in Walmart today and looked at some of the fishing line there. I saw some 65# line in "moss green" that I think would work but could find no red. I was going to try and remember the name of it but it's gone already. :rolleyes:
I have some red serving coming that was pretty inexpensive.
Thanks!
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Yes, lets see those last few bows! Seasons gettin close (34 days). And I would love to shoot a new bow. I realize I'm in the minority as far as this swap goes. Everyones doin a fine job to make this swap what is and I have no worries as whether or not I'll receive a bow. As I know last year there was one outta forty something participants I believe that didn't come through and my nieghbor (dvscowboy) made another trade bow to send to the guy that didn't receive his.
There's some really outstanding people\\bowyers on this site and we shouldn't worry ourselves with the few that that either signed up on a whim(with no real intent to build) or even those that may have got in over their heads or fell upon hard times.
I've enjoyed this build and look forward to next years
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Well said Semo, But as I stated last year EVERYONE WILL GET A BOW IN RETURN.
Last year I had about 15 or so guys that where in the swap and I let the one guy that got stiffed pick from that list.
I have had several PM's with the same offer this year :clapper: Got to love this place.
As far as being late go's, It happens in the world of building bows. I myself have had a heck of a time then started a new job working 6 days a week and that don't help but I'm getting there as are others.
For the shows if anyone has any ideas on how to prevent a crook from getting a bow in this deal let me know.
Stiks
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Bona I usually use silk thread from 3Rivers for the wrap at the end of a skin or rawhide and saturate it with super glue like I described. I have also used string serving but it is really too thick for my liking. Like I said there is very little stress where the wrap goes. It is more to dress up the raw skin end.
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#1 im not semo
#2 its dvs hunter not cowboy.
He wanted to make sure I posted an edit. So there it is, pretty bad when you forget your buddies screen name, woops!
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I think DVS might just have a little cowboy in him Cubs LOL
I know you'd be hard pressed to find a better friend
I was referring to Semo's post a page back but you also made a great point.
Stiks
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Gotcha, yeah hes not too bad
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There's jackwads in everything we do here on earth. Just drive my 26 mile commute around Indy some afternoon if you need to prove it to yourself. That's why it's not heaven. It's also why God is merciful. Seems there's a line in a prayer I heard once about forgiving those who trespass against us :) 80% is about all I would expect. The rest is gravy. Mmmmm gravy! Peace to all.
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i know damn well dvs has cowboy in him lolol he hange out with me and can do the talk as well as me lol how u hon and dvs ? ready hit the hills waitin for stringman get here these bulls are startin to get hot brock
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Had a note in the mail box today!Package at the post office!!It was 11:47.Post office is 15 minuits away and closes at noon.I just barely made it!Thanks Razorback for the beautiful red oak bow!I love the tips!Nice work!Ill try to gets some pics posted soon.Im going now to test it out before I have to leave for work.thanks again,Scott
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Hey Scott glad you like it. I know you have had to wait a long time since you got yours sent out. Let me know how she shoots for you. Came in a little lighter than you had asked for, so I hope it works well for you. Thanks for the comment on the tips, first time I have done them like that.
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Well that is another one down, and I know that another one was shipped.
So that brings us to 78% complete. 65 bows received and 15 more to go.
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Awesome Kelly. Still having lots of fun watching this come to a close.
Brock- GO get them bulls.This year is a wash, but I'll go next year. I just got in from drying a few more big ole snakes. :thumbsup:
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DVS GO TO P A LOOK AT STRING MANS OL UGLY POST LOOK AT THE BULL I TOOK PIC S OF WHAT KINDS SNAKES DID U GET MIGHT MIGHT WANNA TRADE YA LOL SO NEXT YEAR IT S U ME HONON 8 KENT KERRY B BRO WELL GO OH AND LOYD WANTS HIS GOAT AS WELL AS DEN HA BROCK BROCK
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I found my red silk and tried that and you were right Pat, it does look better than the heavier string.
Bona
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Good deal, Bona. I always like to use silk and red is my favorite silk color! d;^)
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Well, got my new recipient and survived my finals today. Guess that means its time to finish up my bow and get it out the door. Should go out round Saturday, but pictures should come long before that. If you already know I'm the one making your bow, send me a pm and let me get to know ya some more.
Adam
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Adam they don't know, they have not asked. I think folks still like the suspense.
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No worries, I can understand that perfectly. I just hope my bow turns out to be just right for all the suspense they've endured.
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I think you're right, Kelly. Trying to figure out who might have your name is a big part of the trade. Makes it all worthwhile. :D
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I sent Kelly a PM. My recipients bow will be sent out on the 19th with my other delinquent bow. I understand the ban and don't harbor any bad feelings on that. I have a track record of being good for my debts through trades and I can assure you my recipient will get his bow.
My apologies for being a downer on the trade.
P.S.
I'm guessing that I am one of the folks who has had a hold put on the shipment of his bow because I never receieved a bow either.
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Well it's good to hear from you. I hope everything is ok!
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Almost struck blood today with the bow I received! Went grouse hunting today and flushed a covey of around 10 birds (biggest I have seen in years!). My jack russell terrier went nuts when the birds started flushing. :) I was only able to get a shot off on one that I found nearby but I hit more branch than bird with the Snaro tip I was using. :( The bird flew off to live another day... I was hoping to have pics with some "first blood" bragging rights, but I'll have to wait for another day.
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Ak,
I if you want spruce hens and an up hill hike, FT Rich, up on arctic valley side but across ship creek no one goes on that side hardly ever. I have jumped big coveys there. They act completely different too. I was surprised the were more like big quail. They did not hit the first tree they left the area in a hurry when me and my lab came upon them. It was a hard hunt with snow and up that mountain side. Never got a bird that day so I went after the tame ones on the lower part where they were more use to humans and would not fly far. :)
Kelly
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well i had a long box waiting for me when i came home for lunch today...
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Ak, I almost struck blood this morning with last years trade bow. Opening morning of squirrel season here. Fox squirrel was all laid out on an oak branch snack'n on something. I didn't have flu-flus with me but I took a chance on losing an arrow and took the shot. Missed! But close! He was then upside down on the side of the tree. Do I risk breaking an arrow? What the heck. Missed again! But again, close! And a broken arrow. He evaporated at the point. That was my only shots. I need to make some more squirrel arrows.
Bona
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Eric you can't just leave us hanging like that!
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it looked to be bout 6ft or so, so i knew it wasn't arrows. upon further inspection i confirmed that it was indeed a bow, and it was from san antonio,tx, and was made by fellow tg'er juan menchaca. it's a r/d osage self bow with buffalo horn tips. it's a very smooth, fast bow, and a pleasure to shoot. in the past i've not been able to shoot self bows very well, but this one is different. it shoots right where i'm looking. i got three weeks to practice with her till deer season comes in, so hopefully i'll have her dialed in by then. thanks a million juan. i'll get some pics on here as soon as i get my camera back from my wife.
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well that bring us t 66 bows received. 3 bows are in the mail again. I got PMed that one was on it way today also. We are about 80% done.
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kel if my recip wants to know , of course you should let him . im still workin it but its still about 60# @ brace ... i been tryin to drop weight but its just not happening. going to really get into it this weekend again.
-hov
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Thanks,
Hov just take your time, I fear when that one starts it is going to shed weight like it is on biggest loser.
I know of one other bow received. So we have 2 in the mail 67 receive, 13 waiting patiently. 80.7% complete.
Kelly
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Yeah same here kelly, I'm at the same stage as Hov right now, trying to make weight. I should have it pretty close by tonight.
Jav
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Thanks Jav
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Kelly,
I will be putting a bow and a few other goodies in the mail tomorrow.
Looks like this thing is wrapping up pretty good.
Stiks
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Got a bow today from Dave Bowyers. Love the camo finish! I'm waiting for the heat to leave and I'll shoot a few through it and add a full draw pic. Thought I would add a few pics first.
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Kris and Kelly, thank you both so much for all the work you guys have done on this bow trade. There have been lots of great bows gifted to a lot of great folks, friendships have started that will last for years and the Bowyers Craft has been given a nice bump into the future.
...and thanks to all that participated! The tallent here on the Bowyers Bench is incredable and the generosity surpasses that.
It's time now for all the hunters out there to concentrate on getting your limit and filling the cauffers so we will all have the strength to start over again after the New Year. d;^)
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Glad it arrived safely Goose. When I was shooting it, it seem to really like 40-45 spine woodies.
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Still having fun here.
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Stiks,
I marked you as shipped, Goose got you as received.
Pat it was my pleasure and honor that is for sure.
So that puts us at 68 bow received, 12 waiting patiently 82% complete
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Sorry I disappeared for a week or so gang. I started a new job Monday after being out of full time employment for over 30 months. In that time I had to file for bankruptcy, work midnights waiting tables, and days busting my back and hands doing landscaping work. I proposed to my wife, bought her ring, and our house, and gutted and renovated it over the course of about 4 months. I'm not sure "struggled" is the word, cause no matter what I will hustle to survive, but maybe "stressed to the max" is a good one.
Now, I do believe that my purgatory has paid off, because I've managed to pull a designer/engineer position out of the clutches of Chrysler! I've been spending some long and serious hours getting ready for my position, so my bow making had to take a back seat for a moment.
The even better news is I finally finished what I am going to mail out. Today when I get back from work I will take pics and get the up here. Hopefully tomorrow morning, the bow, string, and 3 POC arrows with natural fletching and tracers (if not, Monday for sure) will be in the mail and headed to California!!
I'm sorry I had to be one of the ones who went so late, but it took me 6 tries, which means 5 bow's worth of materials were lost, and I didn't want to send something i'm not ok putting my name on.
Pics to come...
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Well fish better late then never, let me know for sure when it hits the mail.
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"Dark Continent" is finished! Not a flawless beauty but a beauty none the less.
I have to get ready for work. I will post pics tomorrow.
Bona
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Great Bona,
I can't wait to see her all prettied up.
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Hey Hova, take some pictures of the bow and post them here. Maybe some of us can help you out with it..
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Bow is in the Mail! I sent Stiks a PM with the confirmation number.
Hope my recipient likes it.
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I hope this works. A video of my bow in action made by KennyM. It's what i'm going to hunt with this season, and probably many more to come. Thanks again KM.
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Any tips on my form are also appreciated. I'm always trying to improve!
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Fish, Congrats on the proposal and the new job. Hope they both work out well for ya
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Just got home from a few days of vacation and found a not so long white tube at the back door. As soon as the car was unpacked the tube got opened. What a beauty I received from "Vanilla Bear". It's hard to believe a bow that short can draw that smoothly. Pics to follow tomorrow, the camera batteries are dead and need recharged. My batteries need charged too, been driving since this morning.....Dan
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You're welcome buddy! Man I hope that is the arra hittin the target, sounds like a .22 goin off! :D
Hows it shootin for ya?
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Congrats, Fish! Sounds like you've been busy in more ways than one!LOL
That's a nice bow, BK. That draw was smooth and recovery looked crisp.
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NTD I got you marked as shipped.
Dan got you as received. there are 2 in the mail we are 83% complete and one of our long lost bowyers have returned. 12 are still waiting on bows, and 69 have been received.
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Well, I'm trying to post pictures but photobucket won't let me copy them. I've never had this trouble before. Is anyone else having this problem?
Bona
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Yes, I've had that problem a couple of times lately too. I restarted my computer and then it worked again. Hope that works for you too.
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Thanks vanillabear?.
I shut down my computer everytime I'm done using it because of a problem with the fan. Maybe a HARD boot is in order!
I'll give it a try.
Bona
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Here are the pics of the beautiful bow that I received from Vanilla Bear. Who ever coined the phrase good things come in small packages knew what they were talking about, Have a look, she's 58" NTN.
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The group was shot at ten yards.
Great looking sticking Dan but no pics over 640 pixels
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Well...that didn't work! :laughing:
Can I delete all these myself?
(wiping tears)
Bona
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Yes I can. Well there's a tease for ya!
Dan, that is one gorgeous bow! Nice job vanillabear?!
Bona
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Nice bow, Dan, vanillabear did you proud.
B, the one pic I saw looked good. I've had problems with photobucket myself, but I think the problem is me mostly...
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Here's a few, I think.
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Dan nice bow, and great work vanillabear,
Bona I like what I see so far. I know ***** is glad they are still waiting now.
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Python skin, ostrich leather, "zebra"wood, and "tiger"eye. With the gemsbok horn belly that is the African theme behind this bow.
I would have put waterbuffalo horn on the tips but there was already elk antler there and I just couldn't grind that pretty anlter down.
Bona
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That is a pretty combo you got going on there B.
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That's a beauty Bona!
I missed so many deadlines I gave myself I didn't even dare post them here anymore. But now the bow is done. I'm happy with it (after two failures) and hope the recipient will be too. Will post pictures soon and will ship it Monday. I was going to ship today but decided to order a better string than the generic 12 strand I had.
Boy, does it feel good!
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Nice looking bow Bona!
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That's a beauty, B. My wife needs that in her classroom as a "multicultural" work of art. Well done.
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I have talked to NTD and he has shipped and is not banned. Just wanted to let everyone know he is in good standing.
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Your bow looks great, Bona. Really a nice bunch of materials you're using on it.
Glad to hear that NTD isn't banned. I knew he would pull through. Hope everything is OK, Nate.
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Thanks everybody! I will ship on Monday. It does feel good.
I want to thank my recipient for thier (Kris and Kelly's too) patientence. I ended up with a bow that I feel is worthy of the swap. I'm confident I will be more timely next year.
Bona
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I have shipped! Woo Hoo!
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Ok Bona I updated you to shipped. Now we have 3 bows in the mail and once they are received we will be in the single digits on folks awaiting a bow.
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Checking in as one of the one with a bow still. Dropped off the earth during finals week and now I'm back! Went out to the shop today and got some work done. Welded up a billet of mokume today for the strike plate and did some sanding. Got a bit of a surprise when I went to check the tiller after sanding. Shes a full 10 lbs heaver than she was when I put her down before my tests. It seems that she dried out a bit with the weather around here. Gotta fix that. Shes got a mind of her own it seems....
Adam
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Originally posted by KellyG:
Now we have 3 bows in the mail...
Don't know if that includes mine. If not mark me down. Was planning to ship yesterday but the flemish string I ordered didn't come through over the weekend so I put together a 16 strand dacron and... shipped today! Oooooh yeahhhh! :archer:
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Well now that makes 4 bows and with 12 bowyers waiting you have a 33% chance it is yours. :)
Adam glad to hear from you, hope all is well and you did not get shaken up to bad.
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Man am I ever sorry to my recipient for being so late. I was finally able to snap some pics of this thing before it goes into the tube and to the post office. I was going to expose who it's for, but maybe I'll just wait for them to figure it out.
I'm going to post a couple teasers here, but I'll post more in the Tradebow 2011 Pics thread.
65" T/T, red oak with brazilian cherry and walnut riser and tips, silencers provided by the tradebow founder. Sadly my scale is dead, but i'm very confident I totally missed my person's weight. It's light, but man does it zip an arrow. i can't venture a guess, cause i'm pretty green at this stuff. I just hope they have fun shooting her. Also made a few arrows. Naturals with fur tracers. POC with silk thread wrap. 125g field tips.
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Kelly / Stiks: I am currently wrapping her up, and getting her tube-worthy, so bear with me as I get her ready for the post office. I am hoping to have her in the mail Saturday morning.
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Just post on here or shoot me a PM when it is sent.
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33%!. I like those odds. Got the day off work(material didn't show up). So maybe, just maybe ill be lucky and get me bow today. Only 21 days till the whitetail opener here in mo.
I'm keepin my fingers crossed. If its not in the mail, nosweat just keep at it and take your time. What's that they say, "good things come to those who wait". If that's the case then my tradebow should be REALLY good!
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Well I am pretty sure that bow is not headed my way as I am a right handed feller. Good looking bow though fish.
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Well here's a (poor) picture of a right handed one, just to keep you guessing. :biglaugh:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/Oarceas/bows/bow.jpg)
Sorry about the picture quality, camera phone is al I had before it went in the mail. I hope the recipient enjoys it and maybe posts better pictures.
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Anticipation... building...
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That's a beauty fish!
Bona
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Nice bow Aram I am sure it will be in a very good home.
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Thanks Kelly and I think so. Here is a shot of the handle.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/Oarceas/handle.jpg)
BBI, 68.5 ntn, #52@28 the weight might change a bit as the bow is shot in. I only took about 50 shots with it at final tiller. Didn't want to write the stats on the bow so I had an idea:
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d60/Oarceas/Embossing.jpg)
Can't show the other side as it shows the name of he recipient. Errr... with a misspelling of course. :knothead: But I think it will work.
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gettin out there here and there. its been hectic this week.
lookin good fellers.
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Been away for a little while. Bona, Fish, & Aram, those bows are sure worth the wait. Glad to see you took the time to do em right, great work gal & guys.......Dan
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Aram, I really like that handle wrap. Great idea.
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I came home from work today to a nice suprise. Wow!
Bona, I am not worthy. What an outstanding bow. Your attention to detail is incredible, the tiller looks incredible. The way you married the osage to the horn belly is just amazing. Everything about it is just flat out awesome. You used my favorite combo of woods and even used my favorite handle design. Thank you so much! I'm going to let it sit for a few days to stabilize to our temps and humidity and then I'll try it out. Just looking at it I'm pretty sure it's going to be a screamer!
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Great looking bows! Great to see the details and best efforts being poored out on these bows. Definitely makes the wait worth it for the finals.
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My bow had better hurry and get here....everytime I see a nice one I get hopeful. Everytime it goes somewhere else I cry...I tell you I CANNOT handle this emotional roller coaster much longer.
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Thanks everyone! This has been an insane trip but well worth the fare. I'm having trouble figuring out what I can use to hold the arrows in the tube alongside the bow, but i'm sure i'll have it figured by friday.
Incidentally, if you guys are looking for a great, and cheap way to send a bow, look no further than your local carpet shops. I walked in, asked the salesman if they had any carpet tubes they were tossing, and they did! One tube ships two longbows. Sorry recurvies. But I asked if he wanted any $ and nope, scrap to them. WAAAAAYY lighter than pvc or even drainpipe. I'll see how much lighter when I ship.
Bona - Very courageous and excellent bow.
Aram - Great work with the difficult materials as well.
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I'm glad you like it Nate! I've checked several times today to see if you'd posted. It's storming here now but I had to check again anyway.
Bona
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That Brings us to 70 bows received. There are 3 in the mail. We have 11 bowyer awaiting bows and are 84% complete.
Great job and efforts by all.
Kelly
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LIVE FROM NEW YORK ITS.....my bow YAY!
Aram she is BEAUTIFUL. I wanna go shoot it so badly but I just do not have arrows for it yet. I mean I have arrows but my other bows are skinny string shooters so I have to come up with some whose nocks will fit that string. As soon as I get them made I will sink a few into a target and then get out after some game...I know a couple sweet rabbit holes and will get there ASAP. I will get some pictures as soon as I fix the battery door of my camera too....wouldnt it figure that TODAY would be the day I would drop it when getting out of my car lmao. THANK YOU for your work on this one. It is one sweeet feeling stick and DEFINITELY worth the wait.
Kelly you can mark me as received. I am too excited right now...gonna go scrounge up SOME sort of arrow to shoot dangit.
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And like that we are down to 2 bows in the mail and 85% complete. 10 bowyers still awaiting there bows, and 71 happily shooting theirs. Who will be the next one to get their bow, will it be a hit or bust, will any more bows be broken or is the final stretch going to be smooth.
Stay toned for the next installment of Tradgang Bow Swap 2011.
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I like the Play-by-play KG!
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That is fantastic soopernate!
KellyG, I love it!
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:knothead: ) )
It measured #55 @ 29 on my scale. I only shot it 50 times or so and my arrows are cut for 28" draw. It should lighten up a bit when shot in. So maybe shoot whatever arrows till it settles then get some to match. If the string I ordered ever comes through I'll send that too.
Enjoy!
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No worries Aram. I build strings myself so if you want to put that string to good use on another bow you build that is fine with me. I scrounged around and found some .400 spine carbons. I am going to load them up front with 200+ grains. They should fly like darts and have that FOC to be stable as hell. Slip some .38 cartridges on the end and them bunnies wont know what hit them. I would take it after deer too...once I have shot it enough to get my confidence up.
You did a VERY nice job and again THANK YOU for being in this years swap. I am already excited about next years.
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Kelly my bow went in the mail this morning. I don't have the tracking info or the date of delivery cause my wife took it into the post office for me, but I will get that later and provide it if necessary.
Hope my recipient likes it!
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Fish you are goo. 10 bowyers awaiting bows, 3 bows shipped; that is 1/3 of the last bows. That means you have a 33% chance of you getting one if you are still waiting.
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Well, I'm headed to the farm with dvshunter for a bachelor party this weekend. Still got my fingers crossed, let's see some pics of these last 8 bows in progress, watchin one come to life through this thread is the best part!
Again, let's see some pics already!
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Got mine today. Thanks a bunch NTD..a beautiful hickory backed maple, with skins!
Its excellent!
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Here are a couple of shots of me flinging a few arrows with the new bow. Thanks for "green bean"!
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/62698964.jpg)
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/53527b4b.jpg)
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goose is that thing gonna do for our pig feast haha or u gonna have to barrow wills smoker tell him get some pic s on there brock
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Hopefully I could draw some blood with good old "green bean". Wouldn't mind being the first to stick something with a trade bow. I'll have to check on Will's connection and see if the land is still potential.
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ok that is 72 received, 9 awaiting bows but 2 are in the mail so you are down to a 22% chance that one of them is yours. Oh and we are about 87% complete.
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im off to work for a couple hours, then its bow marathon. i want to have her done by tomorrow. i need to work up another string , cause the one i have the loops are way too big and just keeps slipping. i thought my nocks needed to be deeper, but i think its my string.
-hov
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so heres a lunch update. worked on it so far for about two hours. going to go back ou and keep scrapering. its just not moving fast but i dont know if it looks like i should bust out the rasp.
i had a hard enough time getting it to a tight string , let alone a brace this morning. on the long string still , at 13" measures 55lbs. i think im going to maybe try for a low brace ,but i am keeping the knot area stiff. i think i can pull it off , using about 2" on either side of the knot.
back layer...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1180313.jpg)
side....
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1180312.jpg)
belly....
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1180307.jpg)
showing the twist...i might try to heat straighten , but i lack a heat source...
(http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt60/thezinks/P1180305.jpg)
going to head back out after i upload for work , and get her really moving. i have a guy coming this week to look at wiring the garage. if i had power out there i would be unstoppable. its already wired too...
-hov
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The bow is looking pretty good to me. I like your toenail polish too!
:p
Bona
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That knot scares me. I think I'd have to put a plug in it if someone would tell me how! d;^)
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Knot scares me too. I'd never make a bow out of a stave like that, just asking for trouble on down the line.
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it was either this or an even bigger one. i originally thought i could leave hte layout wide around it , but it was way out of line. im definitely going to keep that section stiff , and so far so good.
she dropped about 5# today , but is still rediculously heavy. i want to grab a rasp so bad but i know ill end up short...
hang in there ***************************************************************************** ** *** , its comin...
-hov
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Round off any sharp or pointed areas around the knot so there is less chance of a splinter raising.
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Ok Tragedy has struck my first two bows, so its time to be superstitious and start posting more about my efforts. I already broke to black palm staves with was really disappointing cause I brought it back from Costa Rica especially for (*#&%@@) and now I'm all out. And have to resort to bamboo...
It was really sad but at least it broke on me and not my recipient...
Jav
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I personally wouldnt feel right making a bow out of a stave with a knot in the side like that. Build it anyway but if it lets go and busts I think that (if it were me at this point) I would probably pass the bow I recieved on to my recipient...just my .02 on what the right thing to do would be in order to preserve the integrity of this and future swaps.
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i've left it up to my recipient from the start.the bow isnt to the final tiller point anyways, so its still up to the recip if they want the molle i got.
pat : i was figuring on that , but just wasnt sure if it would cause too much un-natural runout...
-hov
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Well Jason, I hope you get a bow out of it..
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Well, I'm getting close now! I got the strike plate in and the tips all finished up. Shes to a consistent 320 grit. All that is left is a good finish, some leather, and a bit more shooting in.
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Oh come on now you are teasing us where are the pics? :)
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Couldn't find the camera yesterday. I tell you what, I'll search for it and post a few tonight after work. 11 posts without a single photo is not acceptable.
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Can't wait, another potential candidate for my trade bow. This will be around 70ty somethin times ill be patiently waiting for the next bow to post hopin it'll be mine.
Kinda cool when ya think about it.
Hope you find your camera!
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I don't know what's worse... waiting on your bow to show up on the receiving end, or waiting on your bow to make it on the delivery end. I hope my recipient doesn't wait too long to post what they think!
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I got your bow today fishychick. Wuz ok I guess. Kinda looks like the bow my 2 year old grandson made last week. Thanks Fishychick. :) LOL
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Roy that is just cold. I'm sure your grandson can do better than that, with his pedigree.
Now post some pics of the bow Fish sent you. Makin fun only counts when you say sorry with a pic or two. Or back it up with pics of the grandson doing his thing.
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I was messen with fish, he did not send me his bow:) I got my bow a couple months ago.
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You kinda had me going Roy. I thought for sure I knew where Fishies bow went
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Just imagine how lost Ole Kelly was:)
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I guess for the most part Pat and I were the only ones on the same page there. None-the-less I had to laugh out loud. I'm sure they'll get it. In a bunch of pieces probably!
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I had a nice package in the mail today. Yep I received my swap bow and it's a beauty. Thankyou stiks n strings. It shoots really well. It's a 50 pound BBH. Can't find my camera.
Thanks Kris.
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Glad it made it to you Shawn. It's a BBO built by John Scifres. I couldn't keep you waiting any longer bud especially with hunting season fast coming.
That boo backed bloodwood that blew on me had about an inch of starved glue joint on the fade area and that's why she blew. I haven't even worked on a bow since that last one I figured I needed a break for sure. About pulled my hair out. LOL
Stiks
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Roy I was good I just thought your old timers was kicking in
88% complete and 8 folks waiting ever so patiently for their bows, only one in the mail.
So who will be the next to get a fine bow out of this swap the pressure is on and the shavings a flying. Stay tuned for the next installment of the Tradgang 2011 Bowswap
brought to you by Stiks-n-Strings the maker of the finest tooth pics in the land.
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LOL on stiks Kelly..
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glad you liked it Roy.
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You got that right Kelly LOL!
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you guys are a hoot. im getting as much of sunday in as i can. i took care of the lawn and made my honey do list a honey done list....copyright and trademarks something or other some years mmxi blah blah ...
this years bow is going to be the most fabulous board bow i can possibly glue up. a new , reliable , monday- friday 9-5 well paying job that i have been looking for , will give me the funds and the time to mess around in the garage a good bit more.
and it will give me every single weekend off , and a weeks vaca after a year...oh and a heeeefffffttttttyyyy raise at a year...a whole dollar....lol...
keep at it , and beside me , who else still owes someone a bow?
-hov
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Well, that's a start. That makes one of seven stil in progress.
I know were down to the skin and bones of this swap, but I'm one of the few that are still waitin on a bow, and il would sure like to see some of the last of the last shine in a last gasp at finishin this awesome event!
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I hate it but, I also still owe a bow too. It is done but, I can't ship it just yet due to some 42" rule and the cost of shipping anything longer. I'll explain to everyone soon.
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Man if those other bows dont get done soon this swap is going to overlap NEXT YEARS swap.
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I already started on next years swap bow. Hope I get Kellys name, and hope he get's my name.. Or I'd like to make a tooth pick bow for sticks too:)
Big Ole Snicker here..
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Thats funny roy. I too alreaday have a couple blanks glued up and started.
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Well the finish on mine is drying. Then its a coat of wax and a bit more shooting in. Sorry Kelly, I can't for the life of me find that camera. I'll borrow one for the finished pics.
Adam
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Well that Ok Inuumarue, just get'er done. Let me know when you ship.
Roy I would be honored if you got my name, I would just hope you use your crayons on it and make it all prettied up like the pictures you do on here. :)
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Roy I would be honored if you got my name.
Me too Kelly, I would love to thank you for your service for our country with a nice BBO Bow. I'll color it all up with pink crayons too:) LMAO
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Well, I sure hope my bow made it to my recipient in the one piece it left in. I neglected to tell the mrs. to go for delivery confirmation when I sent her to the post office almost 3 fridays ago, so I have no idea if it even got there. I'm sure it's probably only fair cause it took so long for me to finish it, but still.
Anywho, I haven't seen any other bows being tossed about. Who else has not received one?
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Still waitin here in mo. Down to seven left if im not mistaken, although theres not a whole lot of anything going on this thread the last few days. Makes me wonder?
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My prayers are that you will receive a bow soon. If the bowyer will not or cannot provide his end of the deal there is a small amount of solice in that he wont be in anymore swaps...
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Whoever got my name don't loose any sleep over it, I just got into this thing to be nice, participate and make something I wouldn't ordinarily make.
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I hope mine shows up at my home before I come back from school to visit; going back home to a bow sure would be a nice treat. ohboy ohboy ohboy
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I think the lack of posting is bowyers making shavings fly. They have shoot me PMs to let me know where there at. I know of one bow still in the mail.
I hope this thing wraps up soon but I know they are working on their bows.
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Kelly, Mine will go out early next week. I'm stitching on the handle and searching for a camera right now. I'm sorry for the wait. I'll send you all the info the moment I send it.
Adam
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Will do Inuumarue just let me know.
I did get word that another one was shipped today.
They should be posting pics soon of it.
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I got word that one more was received. That is 74 out of 81 bows received. we are about 90% complete there are 7 awaiting bows and 1 in the mail. Who is the next one to get theirs. Will the last one who just received his post a pic? Find out this and more at the not so same time but the same channel.
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I'm still watching.
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Me too...I am gonna pop a cork and drink a bit when I read 100% COMPLETE!!!!!
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Kelly,
Send me a list of the guys that have not shipped, Also let me know who has contacted you.
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will do boss
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I have received word my guy got his bow, so those of you waiting will, unfortunately, have to keep waiting. No posts or email yet if they cared for it or not so.... I'm hoping they did?
I guess there's always next year's trade.
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fish I would not worry they are most likely too busy shooting your bow to post here much. :)
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Kelly, mine is boxed up and ready to go. If my fiancee can't make it today, I'll take it to the post office tomorrow. I'll send you the tracking numbers tomorrow and will post the pictures as well.
Adam
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Got it! and here are some pictures for you too.
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/e5f8887a.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/bca347dc.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/806ab0d3.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/d39e320d.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/d62fd3a7.jpg)
and full draw
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/4dd362d5.jpg)
Now for the sad news... after putting 50 arrows through her I noticed a small crack on the upper limb. No pictures of it yet but I am hoping you all will help me find a solution. I'm thinking super glue and serving or something like that. More pics to come.
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Thank you so much for the awesome bow Alan It was fun shooting her!
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We have 6 people waiting one bows and now none in the mail. Give us an update if you please.
That looks like a really nice bow. I really would hate to see it fail for a crack.
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Here is the crack there are three tiny splinters in the shape of > in the picture hard to see but there is a darker color on them.
What do you think? How should I fix this...
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Wow that was big sorry that will be deleted Im sure so here it is smaller.
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/Snapbucket/948694A3-orig-1.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/Snapbucket/948694A3-orig-1-1.jpg)
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I wonder if you can fix that by placing a thin osage veneer over the area...maybe going an inch or two beyond on either side. Sand it down and retiller it? I have never tried that but have read something to the effect?
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Watch your door steps! Mine is in the mail. Pictures to follow.
Adam
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Thanks for the update Adam
so one bow out and 6 waiting on bows who is the lucky one? 17% chance of it being yours if you are one of the 6.
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Well, it took me forever but I'm finally done and shipped. I had a blast and I hope my recipient gets as much satisfaction shooting my bow as I had in making it. Sticks/ Kelly, thanks for putting up with me and I hope to participate next year, minus all the broken attempts.
Here she is:
"Long Weight"
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/102_1111.jpg?t=1315962848
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/102_1112.jpg?t=1315962881
Strike plate
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/102_1114.jpg?t=1315962908
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b152/inuumarue/Bows/102_1118.jpg?t=1315962953
None of the money shots turned out, maybe the recipient will have better luck.
The bow is hickory and canarywood about 71" ntn and **# at **". The tips are a linen micarta and canarywood overlay. The strike plate is a copper nickel laminate which I made to add a bit of my personality. Ended up taking the leather handle wrap off as it just didn't look right to me, but to my recipient, you are free to do whatever you like to make the bow yours. The photos don't do justice to the depth and colour of the canarywood but I have to say it's one of the most beautiful woods that has passed through my shop. Hope you all like it.
Adam
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boy if that is not a long lean and elegant bow there. So simple yet classy.
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Wow, that has a nice look to it. I'm sure your recipient will find it worth the "weight".
You'll need to resize those pics I think though, before they get taken down.
Well done.
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Ouch!! Just logged on to post some photos and read Cuban Missile's post from 9/12 that there is a crack on upper limb. If it is a compression fracture/crack you can't do anything about it... and it's junk. I'm just sick about that. I told KellyG it was the nicest bow I ever made. I don't even shoot Right handed and I still shot it well. I know I am bragging (all for not!!) but jeez I thought that was a great bow.
If that "crack" gets worse or bow loses cast I will send you a new one.
I already loaded pics on photobucket... so I'm still going to put em on here... been a long time - see if I can still do this.
Starting material:
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/2010osage1.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb1JDiaz26.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb2JDiaz36.jpg)
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OK, that was easy, just a little on the small side.
Here's the rest of them:
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb5JDiaz15.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb3JDiaz18.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb4JDiaz25.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb6JDiazdrawn.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb7JDiaz05.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb8JDiaz09.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20TradeBow/pb9JDiaz47.jpg)
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Specifics for above bow: Bamboo Backed Osage - some beautfiful straight grained osage from suburban Pittsburgh. 34" diam logs pictured in truck above.
64" N-N, 56# @ 28". Bocote knock overlays - ala Roy Painter style.
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It is still one sweet bow. I hope it is nothing seriously wrong with it. I would find a way to save that one. If I had to do a belly lam.
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I'm thinking I will have to try putting a belly lam on it when I can get around to it, but my plate is full right now.
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Thats a 200 year old osage!
I'd gladly pay you on Tues. for an osage stave today! :laughing:
Chisler seriously, did you count the rings on that whooper?
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Ok here is a picture of what will hopefully be the lats bow I make for my recipient. I have about an inch of positive tiller right now. The top limb is on the right. Oh and tiller comments are very welcome!
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/Snapbucket/DB5BBA65-orig-1.jpg)
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Tiller looks good to me, except for the area right by the fade on the right limb. Looks like it might be bending too much right at the fade. Of course it might just be the angle of the photo.
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Finally... here are some pictures of the beautiful bow that I got from Soopernate. I got this bow in the mail, on time, on July 5, but didn't feel right getting to know her until I got my bow shipped. This is a beautiful SHOOTER bow!!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow003.jpg)
This shows the grain, sorry the pics are formatted a little small - the "options" option doesn't show up on PhotoBucket the way it used to.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow005.jpg)
64" N-N Osage Selfbow 54# @ 27"
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow014.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow009.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow010.jpg)
Perfect arc, perfect smooth draw
Bois d'arc !!
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow025.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow024.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow026.jpg)
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This bow is a soopershooter!! Thanks Soopernate!!
I hope this bow will appear later in the 2011 Highlights forum.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow027.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow030.jpg)
Even has antler nock overlays = mojo !
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/2011%20Soopernate/pbsnselfbow015.jpg)
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Got home this evening and the wife told me that there was a package in the garage, it was is fine looking bow from Inuumarue! The bow looks better in person then in the posted pictures and I am looking forward to shooting it sometime next week. We had guests for dinner tonight and my foot might finally be good enough to hobble after the elk this weekend before I have the chance to put it through the paces.
Adam, the tips are exceptional.....You done good!!
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Response to OSAGETREE:
You asked: Chisler seriously, did you count the rings on that whooper?
Ya, 86 rings. A huge tree growing in yard in a real nice residential area in suburban Pittsburgh. There is actually a street near here called Osage - because it used to be lined by osage. Hardly anyone around here even knows what it is - those that know it as anything call them monkeyball trees.
This tree was dying and the owner told me about it so I was able to get the best part of it, which happened to be the biggest part. None of the limbs were any good. I had these 8' x 32-34" logs milled - mostly into 2x6" boards, but some bigger stuff too. Seriously a lifetime supply for several bowyers - not for self bows, but great stuff for BBO's.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/OSAGE/2010osage4.jpg)
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Thanks Chisler, I was very curious. The milled lumber looks great!
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I had the same experance last year when the neighbors Osage fell over, 90+ rings on it. I got it cut into boards also - good for glueups.
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Man I hated to let that stick go...my first and so far ONLY osage stave. Alan I may have to get you to send me a couple osage slats so I can build me a new BBO. Glad you like it buddy. Good hunting to ya this year.
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Great looking bows. Only a few left to get theirs. Hopefully someone will draw blood soon with a trade bow. I want to see some meat in the freezer!
That tree is an eye looker for sure! Nothing that big anywhere I've been.
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Guess my recipient doesn't really have time to say how he feels about the bow and arrows I sent him. So at this point I i'll just say: Great trade gang, and I hope next year's goes smoother for some of us who had a hard time with this year's trade. Cheers, and good luck in the woods this fall.
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I just put 50 arrows through what seems to be my final build for the swap but I won't be able to work on it again till Sunday... I'm itching to get back to it! Don't worry &$;/";*€ your bow is almost done!
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Ok we have 5 people awaiting bows, that brings us to 91.57% complete. Nice bows Chisler and Walt, I hope both of you get lots of enjoyment out of them.
Lets see some movement on these other bows.
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Hova get his done? I didn't see the pictures.
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Walt, I'm glad shes to your liking. So far they're some of the nicest tips I've made, but there is always room for improvement. I woke up this morning and realized I forgot to slip in a letter to you in the tube. Darned thing was sitting smack dab in the middle of my desk. I'll shoot off the core of it to you in a bit. Good luck this weekend!
Adam
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nope hova is still scraping as far as I know.
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Ok whats up yall making shavings or what? I have five still waiting oh and I should have less then 2 weeks but more than a day left and I should be stateside.
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good to hear kelly. Come home safe.
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Bon Voyage, Kelly. Have a safe last few days and a safe trip home...and thanks for all you have done here on the bench and with your job over there.
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That's great Kelly, be great to have you home.
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i have put the osage on the backburner this year. the knot makes me too uncomfortable , so im sending a boo/maple/oak trilam r/d that john scifres sent my way iirc , with the intent of "do as you wish" ... its too fancy for me , but my recipient will probably love it.
just getting some tru oil on it , then a little wor on the shelf and handle area and it will be packed and shipped. probably next weekend it will be done.
-hov
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Kelly - Great to hear that you are coming home. Thank you for your service both on Trad Gang and abroad.
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Be glad to have you back from the sandbox Kelly.
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Cool Hova, nice gesture on your part. That knot scared the heck out of me too. If you wish, I can point you in the right direction for some prime Osage billets. PM me if interested..
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It's been fun and I've seen some really nice bows built and would have took any of them. I had some really tough luck with FedEx ruining the one i sent off but I'm over it now. I shoulda sent my second bow weeks ago but have been unreal busy but It's going out tomorrow.I don't think we could have had a better person handling all the emails and PM's than Kelly he's done one heck of a job keeping up with mine.I PM'd Kelly the other day about FedEx and those guys did come trough with some money on the deal.Anyways good luck on your trip home Kelly.
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Whohoo! im in the finishing stage final sanding and a couple of scraps to get it under 55. Then stain, seal and put on a leather wrap and send her out! I'm getting excited!
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I applaud you Hova...you are doing the right thing. Maybe next time around you will get one of those that you hate to let go...its an awfully satisfying feeling to let one go that you yourself would LOVE to keep.
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Well just let me know when yall ship. Thanks gents, And it really has been my pleasure to help out and Inshalla (Arabic for god willing) I will help out next year also.
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I'm done tillering now on to staining and sealing!
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KellyG
Serving our country AND Trad Gang - double duty.
Let me know when you are back in KS so we can thump some stumps.
va
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will do Va will do but it will be few weeks once I get back. I need to spend as much time as I can with the family but they all go to school so I think some stumps or deer might be in trouble.
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Oh cuban pics man we need pics
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oh yeah... ok will do when i get home. I'm pretty much done I already put on 1 coat of tung oil yesterday. Today is coat number two. I'll put some pics online tonight.
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sounds like a plan fellers... im holding off on the osage from now on unless i cut it myself. im going to do exactly 5 board bows of one type , just so that i can really get some family in on it when we get together.
anyways , i have other bows , and ken75 (my bowyer) even offered to send one or two my recip's way , cause he said he made the bows for me. i was moved by this. needless to say i think my recip will like john's r/d design too. i might continue on the osage , but i know very well that one day it may bite me , but not in the ass...
lookin forward to doing some things this winter , and getting the garage figured out. no matter what i do to it , the wife has to be able to pull her car in in the winter , and the Yeep sits outside.I'd like to make use of a couple half-roughed bows that i have , and one of them has possibility for this year.
glad to hear you're back kel. if theres some meet somewhere , maybe i can trick the wife into a road trip... i'd like to get to one of those conventions...
-hov
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Much humbled tonight. :notworthy: Got my (second) package from TX. I can't wait to shoot it. Will take some pictures tomorrow in the daylight. She's a beauty and she's my hunting bow this season. Will post pictures tomorrow and let the bowyer, WestTexan, chime in with the details.
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That is great Aram I glad to hear. Now who is shipping soon, need some updates if you have not in the last week or so.
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man, how cool would it be to see pics of all these bows? :knothead: :deadhorse:
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kel , funds are short this week , but she just needs the handle wrapped. due to my poor leather skills , im going to go with a grip tape wrap i think. the leather just looked horrible. i might stop at the craft store and see if there is some long stuff i can skiv up a wrap with , but thats where she is....
-hov
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Sad day in the trade bow world... After shooting literally hundreds through the bow got ready to take the 4th shot and at half draw *wham*. Took some pictures of the break. Now I'm rushing around to get ready with another bow for the season opener in a week. Not sure what caused it but maybe yall can see something I can't. The growth rings were great and there weren't any that ran off. Sorry Dave, loved the looks and the way it shot :(
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy316/goosegossett14/b56d7db2.jpg)
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Wow sorry about that goose. Hope you get one up and shoot for the seasons.
Just let me know Hova when it is off.
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Man Goose that is a bummer. Unfortunately it goes along with wood bows. Just hate to see it happen a week before the opener.
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Almost forgot that I finally got some pics uploaded on photobucket
Here's a pic of the few that didn't make it this year. :D
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh24/krischris123004/07172011178.jpg)
No pics of the two that broke just the ones that are way under weight.
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Geeze Stiks it's not as bad as Kelly said it wuz:)
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That's just the edge of the pile Roy LOL
You can check out the one I just finished "Yew Shortie" I posted some pics and it turned out alright.
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Ok I finished bow #3 for the swap. This is my first ever Oak bow and I wasn't sure how it was going to turn out but after shooting it I'm gonna be sad to see it go... a friend and I have shot 300 arrows through it and decided that we are going to make some for ourselves. Here are some pictures of the finished product. I'll get her out in the mail this week and send you the info Kelly.
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/Snapbucket/DBDF36AB-orig.jpg)
(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k525/javdiaz9/Snapbucket/1D97B92A-orig.jpg)
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That's a good looking bow, Cuban Missile! Excellent work all the way around. :thumbsup:
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like the accents on the handle, that is just great looking. Well another one done. Yep just drop me a note when she is off. Once this one is done and shipped we will be down to 4 bows left.
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Some of these "first timers" really impress me. Nice bow there Cuban Missile.
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I like it Cuban Missile. Looks tribal! :archer:
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So - can you get in on this Swap still? I apologize as I just found this amazing forum but I don't think I can wait until 2012 to have another excuse to make a bow!
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Dang Goose..I was hoping to see you with a deer and the bow. Sorry she cut loose on you :banghead:
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Man, tough one, Goose! Hope you have a back up waiting in the wings.
I like that board bow, Cuban Missile. Well done.
Went to the camp this past weekend and touched up my favorite spots for this weekend. Opening day is Saturday! Wishing all you Arkansans good luck. Can't wait to see more trade bow harvests. We can't let SEMO out-do the rest of us. LOL :archer:
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Jvermast,
this one is almost over, but the next one will start in January.
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No worries Dave. Not sure why ole green bean broke. I measured what I was drawing and it was 27.5" so it wasn't overdrawn and it broke mid pull. I've got a black widow and a bow I finished this spring as back up. I was hoping to put one down opening day here in AR with a couple of slickheads that are walking a few yards from the tree I'll be sitting in.
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bummer about the bow goose.
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I may not be on much over the next few days (it is a good thing if not) Send sticks your updates.
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Hope you have a safe trip home Kelly.
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Some may have a fair excuse for being late with their swap bows this year,,, here is mine.
You may remember seeing this bow as my swap bow. If not just look back in the thread and there are more pics of my swap bow.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Anumberonereadytoship16.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Anumberonereadytoship15.jpg)
Well, I had it all packed up and ready to ship.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_0800.jpg)
I found out for more than one reason I could not ship the bow as promissed. For one,,, it was simply too long for anyone to ship to it intended address. So I unpacked the bow and cut it in half.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Takedown.jpg)
Never had made a two peice and being sheap I opted for my own idea on how to cheaply make a joint for my first two piece swap bow. Everything was going great and I just was not happy with the job. The hardware was not flush with the backing so I needed to drill a little deeper.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Takedown4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Takedown7.jpg)
Then the bad luck hit me. The bow slipped in the jaws of my vise and the boring bit blew out the side of the bow handle. Ouch!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Takedown5.jpg)
So I break down and buy a sleeve from 3Rivers and begin a new bow after the deadline.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/Sleeve4.jpg)
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So I begin to make progress again.
Old and new
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_0961.jpg)
Since this was my first two piece, I was late with the trade and so I wanted it to be the first of several in my building progression
So, I added a rawhide backing to make it an indestuctable heavy weight. You can see the hide on the backing in this pic.
Also, came up with some snake skins by chance.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1083.jpg)
I did not have enough of two of the same skins for this bow, so another first.... Two different snake skins.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1061.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1085.jpg)
Got her tillered out and added the skins and glue.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1082.jpg)
The two billets I used were from two different trees. Both had some funky punky wood going on but it was usable and turned out to be a heavy shooter.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1102.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1104.jpg)
This bow deserved a heavy leather handle wrap job too. Not real pretty but all heavy leather!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/end5.jpg)
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Another first is the asian water buffalo horn tips. I really like the look of some of this horn that was given to me by Tony Chinn.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1099.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1100.jpg)
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And the finished bow in two pieces. The joint is almost too tight,,, no clicking or odd sounds. I really like the sleeve too!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/end8.jpg)
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And here are the draw pics in left and right hands.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1095.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/end2.jpg)
It's all I can do to hold it for the pic. It turned out 65# @ 28". It has a blacksnake on one limb and a copperhead on the other.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1091.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/DSC_1096.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/end6.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/SWAP%20BOWs/end7.jpg)
P.S. The bow will ship out October 7th! Be on the look out for a "North American Snake Fight"!
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Beautiful bow, Joe! Your recipient will not mind having to wait on that one. Also, a wonderful story of your adventure in producing such a terrific bow. :archer: :clapper:
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Thanks guys. I tried some black palm but they both broke on me, both sad days.
Another sad day today my the bow that I received in the swap has lost weight due to the crack that I showed earlier, I tried to fix it but I guess it's not fixable and I don't want a bloody nose so I put it in the corner, and the season starts this weekend! :banghead: Off to look for another solution
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beautiful job on the 2 piece bow, joe. i know your recipient will love it. rv
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Originally posted by Osagetree:
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Joe, is it me, or does one need to watch where he's reaching for tools in your shop? That one skin looks like it needs a little skiving....
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Cuban sorry to hear about your bow, it is a tough year in the swap on all ends it sounds like.
Joe you are an inspiration to us all with every bow you build.
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Who ever if anyone, is trying to jump through flamming hoops to get a bow out to me, I don't want you to worry about it. I have all the bows I need, I just don't want you to have to do your job, deal with family, and other responsibilities and have not getting the bow in the mail heavy on your mind. I'm really am happy and content, so don't go outta your way for me. Sticks n strings can vouch for me, he's a customer of mine and talked with me a little about it, when he called the other day wondering when I was going to get his wife's bow done.
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Mike is top notch fellers that is a fact!
How you been Mike?
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I'm Good, be expecting your order on or about Tuesday. Came out right at 35# @ 24" but I got it marked 41# @ 27".
-Mike
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Joe,
You done good...really, really good!
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Well Friends I am on my first stop to getting home. It will take a few more days before I am Home but I closer then I was day a go.
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Thanks gang! I just notice my recipient has not posted since early August. He is probably upset as I know he sent out a bow months ago and has not recieved his yet. I hope I will be forgiven if he see's page 170 or when he gets the package.
Ruddy, thanks for the sleeve advise. Hope we get to talk again soon.
David, no chance heads come off when they go to the shop. That one copperhead wasn't skinned yet.
Mike, thanks again for the "bit" advise, I will certainly use in the future!
Thanks Red & Walt, I needed those compliments! They provided me encouregment for my next bow.
Kelly,,, you be safe and thanks for all you've done for TG and our Freedom. :clapper:
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Kelly that is great news.
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Yes, "bit" good one.
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kel , glad to hear you are on your way , if not already on American soil...
i have one coat of tru-oil on my swap bow , but with all the rain lately , im stuck at one coat. she's ready for another , but its just too cold and wet...
everything is coming to completion nicely. do we have anyone who hasnt been heard from at all yet?
-hov
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Nope Hova not just yet. This is the longest wait one could imagine. The closest I have ever come was waiting a deer to move into good shooting postition.
Well you know pics are required also.
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Glad to hear you're headed home, Kelly. Be safe, brother.
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HOVA....171 pages and NO PICS? INexcusable. ;)
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Ah come on soopernate, didn't cha see the picture of his purty painted toe nails with the bow? :) LOL
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This friday will be 6 weeks since I have sent my bow to my recipient, and have not received a single comment from him. I even sent him an email 2 weeks ago asking what he thought of the bow, and nothing. I wouldn't even care if he told me he hated it and burned it cause it was, in his opinion, an abomination, so long as I heard SOMETHING.
But nothing?? Not even a freakin thank you? I'm sorry, but I just wasn't raised to do people like that. Oh well. Lesson learned. Next time a bow breaks on me 3 times for the same person, i'm telling them it wasn't meant to be.
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I stand corrected...those nails were exquisite but i want to see a completed bow....maybe I am just suffering from withdrawals. I better go build a bow.
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Fish it is ok, I am sure if they could stop shooting that bow you sent they would have posted by now. I know I would be out shooting such a bow so much my finger would not work for about 8weeks.
Hova does need to get pics up for us.
I had a delay; so not home just yet but every tic of the clock brings me ever closer.
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Fish, I never heard from my receipient in last years swap. I don't let it get me down cause I won't get him again. I can't remember who it was though. Wonder if it is the same guy? I can't remember who it was though.
Your time will come Kelly,,, we are all praying for that!
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Yeah I hear ya Osage. It's their own demise IMO.
Kelly, besides loving your family like crazy, what's the NEXT thing you'll do when you get home?
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Fish... that's people for you. I've met very few I can rely on, but fortunately those I can reley on make up for the millions I can't rely on.
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ill get some pics up tomorrow. i try not to touch the bow during the week cause i am covered in grease. no matter what its somewhere...
i have just been trying to finish the bow that i'm sending , then im probably going to use the swap bow sent to me by ken for this years hunting season.once season is over, i'm going to revisit the osage. my boy turns 3 in april , and i am going to whip him something up in the 36" range , probably hard maple/cherry...or something like that...
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You buy me the glass for TWO and I will build you one. Really not a bad deal if you think about it.
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Looking forward to the pictures Hova.
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Well I am HOME my Friends. Fish hunting will be the other thing I will do between the honey do's
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Welcome back Kelly. Glad you made it safely.
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Heck yeah Kelly! Good luck brother and tight lines.
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Welcome Home Kelly....hopefully it was a warm one from friends and family as well.
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Welcome home Kelly! Look me up later in the season when you have time and we can hook up for that hunt. I've got a farm in middle MO. I might even share my osage hook up with ya.
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That is fantastic Kelly. Welcome home and thanks for your service.. Roy
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Welcome back Kelly, thanks for the time you've spent in service for our country!
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Glad to hear you're home, Kelly! Enjoy your family and relax for a while.
Found out this afternoon that one of my former student/athlete's in Iraq now. Wish they were all home.
Welcome home! :campfire:
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Thanks All it is great, now to get ready for the deer woods. Got my tags, now to get everything else ready and I will go hang stands tomorrow. Now where are the rest of the bows. I know of 2 of you have posted to keep us up dated what of the others.
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Where is home Kelly?
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Okay, second attempt at shipping. Here's proof I shipped today. The reciept and CC of the customs form.
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Well Joe I will mark you as shipped.
Roy I am in KS for now.
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KS? Where the heck is Kansas? LOL
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What a week! Work was super busy (did an Aveo engine in 7 hours flat) , and the weather was horrible most of the week.
My tru-oil must have went south cause its not hardening up. i am stripping it down tomorrow and getting some new tru-oil to put on her. a few coats , some steel wool , and she will get boxed and sent.
i promise to get some pics...
and of course
WELCOME HOME KELLY!
-hov
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welcome home kelly! good to have you back in the states.
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Glad to hear you made it back safe Kelly.
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I got word from my recipient that they have been shooting the bow and that it did get to them in one piece. I'm just glad I heard from them finally, and that he is liking the bow. Now I definitely feel like I can move on with good karma on my side.
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Kelly, Welcome home and good luck with the deer!!! Dan
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Kelly when ever it is convienant for you send me a list of who has not shipped.
Thanks Stiks.
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That's good to hear fish! :thumbsup:
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Stiks I sent it last night to you.
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Originally posted by Osagetree:
That's good to hear fish! :thumbsup:
It's great to say O-Tree! I feel for him though, he sent his out WAAAAAy before I sent mine, and he has yet to hear from his recipient. I guess in some respects we can't completely escape some complexities of man. I remember the bow he sent out, and it was a beauty.
How many are left to ship?
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Well I couldnt remember if I sent a thank you to my builder or not so I surfed backwards through this thread and found it...WHEW thats a relief that it wasnt me who skipped the "Thank You" that is common courtesy.
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actually off early today and home all day tomorrow. looking for some leather for the handle wrap on the swap bow , then she should be out monday at noon.
so far i havent had luck finding any decent leather strap to wrap the handle with , so im stopping at a couple hobby/craft stores and a couple thrift stores... if i cant find any leather , i may use a colored grip...we'll see...
on the bright side , everyone should be just about ready to start the new swap. anyone else sitting this year out?
sooper , i remember your thank you , i was impressed.
-hov
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Mine is in the mail as of today!
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There are 2 in the mail 3 needing to be shipped. So 5 are awaiting their bow. So there is a 40% chance one of them fine bows are yours.
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has anyone not shipped , not been heard from?
-hov
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Just back from a week of Texas hunting and there was a bow waiting for me! Phil was unable to finish a trade bow so he sent me the one he received. Made by Samuel Haldeman. Looks good! Will post pics and report on shooting soon...
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Yeah I think Phil had some personal issues come up with a death in the family or something of the sorts.
We'll get him marked off the list Shaun and hope all is good or getting better for him.
Stiks
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Well that is good that he came through one way or another. I hope you like the bow you got. Sorry to it took so long for you to get one. Now give us some pics I don't think we have seen that one but I could be wrong.
Kelly
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WAY TO GO PHIL..a stand up guy like that who does the right thing to hold up his end of the bargain is someone I will ALWAYS welcome to my camp. Hell I would show the guy my secret spoits.
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Okay...that was a lie. I wouldnt show him my secret spots. I would take him to some decent areas though.
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Ok we have 4 folks still awaiting there bows, and 2 in the mail, so it is a 50% that it is coming your way. 92% complete.
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been putting the finish on mine. trying to figure out where i put the string...so i wouldnt lose it... :lol:
im poor till friday , and by gorsh it'll be movin soon...
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Hova is going to be either dead last in this swap or the first one in the next swap depending on how you look at it lol.
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You might be right Nat but at least he keeps posting with updates and is staying optimistic.
You got to admire his perseverance, :notworthy:
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Hopefully he doesnt take these gentle jabs as anything more than gentle pushes to keep going.
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I'm still assuming no news is good news here... With our customs and postal people being as "fast and efficient" as they are its very difficult to decide when would be a good time to get worried.
Living in Africa might be great for hunting but it sucks in many other respects.
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Johan,
Most priority shipping world wide these days is atleast 7 to 10 days.
When were the last one's shipped out? :dunno:
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I recieved my swap bow fri while i was at work. Havent had much time to shoot it yet though i did manage to get a few arrows downrange. Thank you goes out to cuban missle for stickin with it and puttin together a quality bow. Ill try to get a few pics up later this week as the sched permits
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Johan hang in there bud I do know it's on it's way, Should be showing up any day now.
Stiks
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Ok with H8nonCub that brings us up to 94% complete. Only 3 awaiting their bow.
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soop , its cool , you didnt offend me in the least.i actually chuckled...the wife said the same thing the other night...
i have to figure out where i put the string... if i dont have it found by tomorrow im twisting one up , and making sure the tiller and everything is still ok. i had to do a bunch of sanding on the back and handle , but it came out good. money ended up being really tight this week , so i had to hold off picking up anything for the grip...
im handling the handle issue (lol) friday , then shooting it saturday and sunday to make sure everthing is good , then she's outta here monday first thing in the am.
i havent figured out a name for her yet...i need to test the spray clear i have with tru oil base and see which ink/pigment/paint wont get eaten up...
-hov
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It was probably one of the more humbling things for me to do... make a bow for a Cardinals fan... especially with that name!
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Originally posted by Cuban Missile:
It was probably one of the more humbling things for me to do... make a bow for a Cardinals fan... especially with that name!
Haha that's funny. At least now the bow knows what baseball in October is like. I know Chris watched the world series game with the bow in the room last night. For those who are playoffly challenged, the word series is what some teams get to play in. Hahaha
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Good things come to those who wait. Some just have to wait longer than others. I'm sure cuban missle can relate, still waitin for that world series championship. For a quick chuckle check out this site
http://www.jordoncooper.com/2009/03/25/20-things-that-have-happened-since-the-chicago-cubs-last-won-the-world-series/
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The Bell bottom on got me cracking up!
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I've been through the two bell bottoms crap, myself... Sort of. Anyway, daddy named me after Stan "the man" who was his favorite player so I've gotta love the Cards!
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Hova, ya find the string yet? :)
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Johan, did you get your swap bow yet?
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You JUST stole the words from my mouth! :) Yesterday afternoon I received a package in the mail... Sadly I got it too late to take photos (bad light) but its a true beauty!
Thanks sooooooo much Joe! (Osagetree) This bow really exceeded my expectations.
I received a 65#@28" 2 piece take-down osage bow. It is covered with blacksnake on one limb and with copperhead skin on the other. It is also appropriately named "North American Snake Fight"!
It also draws very smoothly. I can't wait to throw a few arrows! This bow is just so amazing!
Thank you Osagetree! I'll post photos a.s.a.p and hopefully will post a kill photo using it in the foreseable future too :)
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off course, I will also have to rethink arrow spine. I just realized all my other bows are very close to centre shot!
Still...a nice kind of problem to have :D
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Glad you got it ok. This is a lesson learned on this on for sure. every country is different to ship to. Joe had to do a take down so it would not cost an arm and a leg. So if you are shipping to another country check the size prices.
I will mark you as received sorry it took so long.
And these are the only two still awaiting for their bows.
We are over 95% complete.
John Lipinski
Mike Mecredy
Hova did you ship yet?
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Shewy, glad it made it! :readit:
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This is awesome, I love this place!
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As promised...some photos :)
The "specs"
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The fighting snakes :)
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and the rest..
The take down handle :)
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The tiller
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Very nice Bow..
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Well I am glad you like it. It seems to have turned out very nice. So how she shoot?
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Excellent bow...excellent accomodation for our overseas buddy. You are allright buddy!
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Beautiful bow, Johan! Good job, Joe. Those skins actually look pretty good together. :thumbsup:
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I have not. i need to pack and ship it this week , i will finally have the cash to send it...
i did find the string ... i started twisting one up , went looking for my string wax , and found the wax and the string for it... its much nicer than i could do and tuned to the bow afaik...
turns out i forgot who sent what to me. i thought it was a john scifres bow , but in retrospect i remembered it is from jamesV. its gorgeous , shoots ridiculously awesome. I did not build it. i thinned it a little around the bend to try and get a tad more working , as there were frets here and there... i have shot this bow close to a thousand shots i'd say...from 6" snow to 100 degree summer...
Will be trying to get it gone this weekend.
-hov
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Two bows?! I really appreciate the effort Joe!
Sadly, I also had the "international shipping shock". My own bow cost substantially more to ship than to make. Basically all due to the length. So in future I'll probably also try the take down route.
For a glass laminate. When would you guys recommend I do the take down bit?
1. Make a take-down riser block and then proceed from there.
2. Make the bow "blank", turn it into a take down and then tiller etc.
3. Finish the bow and then make it take-down after the fact?
Any advice would be most welcome. Also can anyone shed some light on the best place to buy these sleeve/socket take down kits?
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There are several I looked at;
Take down bolt
Connexion hinge
Sleeve
Do a search here and in the Pow Wow section and you'll find them all here or on the Net somewhere.
The sleeve was the cheapest, aroung $35 at 3 Rivers Archery.
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Did you use the large or small sleeve? Its a perfect fit for my hand so I want to get one of the same :)
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Not sure Johan,,, sorry I should know but I can't be sure.
Now thinking it through some more, I beleive the small was round and the large was "D" shaped which is what I used.
Anyone else know for sure?
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Takedown sleeve dimensions from 3rivers:
Classic "D" shape for comfort. The small sleeve measures, 4" x 1 1/2" x 1 3/16". The large size measures, 4" x 1 3/4" x 1 3/16".
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Thanks, then I think it was the large one.
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Well.....how many are left to send and receive? I have bubbly (SHOCK TOP RASPBERRY) ready to open when we are complete....
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We have 2 awaiting still.
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(sob sob) allright....putting the beer back and pulling out a diet soda.
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Diet Soda is for Sissy Pants Montana's:) LMAO Nate
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Roy you got to quit it man, I get tired of cleaning coffee off my puter screen ever time you start picking. LOL
Ahhh! never mind, it keeps it interesting :D
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LOL............
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Hey now...I do throw a little spiced rum in it on occasion. If Hova and whoever would get their damn bow sent I could quit being called a sissy and start to drink my dark beers made by thick necked guys name Gunter (remember that commercial)
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I thought Coors Light was brewed in the Rockies by mountain men? :)
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Coors Light tastes like pee water. Nasty stuff that is...ShockTop, Guiness or good ole local microbrews for this kid.
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Still waiting for this to end. I don't have any bubbly, but a fine bottle of whiskey will work. Hova, is that bow shipped out yet?
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Hova lost the string again:)
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It's probably in his sock drawer, Roy, that's where all my "stuff" ends up after my wife cleans off the dresser... Can't ever find what I need when I need it. :smileystooges:
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Hova how goes it man. Whats the word?
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Actually I did find the string. I have been super busy at work , and low on funds.
She is all done , as of yesterday. I just got home at 11pm , so no pics today.
sorry to hold everything up. i cant believe someone still hasnt been heard from...
next years swap bow will be started in january for SURE....this coming up swap will be better because we're in our house , etc.
thought of working on the osage stave for next year...maybe i'll draw roy...im sure i can get 15# out of her!
-hov
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AGAIN no money? Steal from the collection plate at church or something. I heard its easier to get forgiveness than permission. Thats what my 8th graders tell me anyway.
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OK Ya Smarty Pants:) Hova whats your mailing address? I'll send ya $5.00 to help for the shipping. Anyone else wanna send him $5.00?
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If it will help me get my beer quicker I will chip in $5.
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Second to last bow will ship out this week. Osage with zebrawood and horn accents. 58in. Ntn 59@28
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DVS That is one good looking bow!
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It's ok, I guess:)
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Very nice bow, DVS.
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Thanks guys. Roy, it would have been better if it wasn't so.heavy. I was shooting for 39 not 59@28.
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Send it to supernate in Montana, 39 pounds is bout all he kin pull DVS:)
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Hell I might have to work UP to a 39....
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But on a serious note...DVS that is a pretty bow and well worth the wait for whoever was waiting.
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Very sweet bow David. Good job Bro!
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That's a beauty DVS.
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Yes, that is a nice looking bow!
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And then there was HOVA...
Still waiting on pictures from a couple days ago. Still waiting for him to send his bow. Waiting, waiting, waiting
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Soopernate,
Remember what your dear old Ma used to say "Patience is a virtue." and you are a very virtuos man, though its the bad boys that have all the fun. I hope it arrives soon and is worth the wait.
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nice stick Dave! You know who is gonna love that.
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I'm not asking for much...just PICTURES...he keeps promising PICTURES. My mama DID say to be patient but she also told me that a man is only as good as his word...Hovas word was PICTURES!!!
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Come on supernate, I just talked to Hova and he said he can't find his camera now:)
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Did he check his sock drawer?
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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No he did not check the sock drawer. He's been so busy at work, that he doesn't even wear socks to work. Heck Nate, you seen his painted toe nails, why would he cover them purty piggies up with socks:)
Come on Hova, we are just messen with ya son, but get that bow shipped out. Ya need some cash for it, let us know. Roy
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LMFAO.
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Sticks I'm sure **** ******** will like it. I just hope that **** ******** isn't upset about being the last one in the swap to get a bow.
Hova... Where aaaaarrrreee you?
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I talked to him on the phone Dave and I'm sure he ain't worried about being the last guy LOL
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I just want to wrap this up so I can take a wee break before all the work starts all over again. :)
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I'm thinking Hova lost his PC now........
Check the sock drawer Hova:)
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He is only four months late...still has two before the next swap lol.
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lol you guys are a riot. funds are ok now (since i HAVE been working a metric crapton)...lol. i was just worried about sending it because it still ended up with a stress fracture on the belly . i have shot it a bunch to make sure , cause i have already thinned the limb to try to spread the bend. the upper limb has taken more set , and you can tell its just a little bit weaker limb.
im actually walking out the door now to go cash my check before the bank closes because of course i get my check on friday.... i have to pick up a pen to mark it , and the pvc im putting it in. luckily walmart , and lowes are in the same conglomerate plaza here.
i actually found the camera , batteries with a charge , and a memory card. so pictures will be up by end of day. i took some pics before but they were uber dark. come to find out the wife was messing with the camera trying to be creative.
-hov
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Be sure and post pics of the fret. That's never a good thing in a bow...
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The end of the day has come and gone and still no pictures. I would venture to guess that Lowes was out of PVC and walmart was out of marking pens so the bow didnt get sent either. I was looking forward to seeing it...fret and all. Poor Kelly has to keep waiting AND STILL cannot put the wraps on this swap. HOVA WHAT GIVES??????
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Nate I am fine, I just know ****** ****** is just chomping at the bit for a bow. The good news is I have a great jump on my bow. I had to get my other Osage stave down to bow blank to ship it. But I left plenty of meat on it, so I can go a few routes yet.
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I got an email from a source that Roy hooked me up with (thanks buddy) so I am lookin forward to getting some osage...in the meantime I have ipe slats ready for tapering and received my new shipment of bamboo yesterday....BBI for the next swap I think...sent an osage selfie this time around which was NOT my original plan or even my backup plan but it worked out well for my recipient I think...he seemed pleased anyway.
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Hova lets see the fret. There are ways to deal with that and the bow still be fine but it depends how bad it is.
stiks
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HOVA.....HOVA.......HOOOOOOOOOVA.
Missing in action yet again. We are beginning to think you dont really like all of us. WHERE ARE THOSE PICTURES?
Can't expect us to help you out if you arent going to provide at least that much information.
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Soopernate, Hova is just helping keep the thread alive and going. After all we only have a short time to reach the one year aniversary. :laughing: :deadhorse:
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LMAO...I cannot get enough of seeing the smiley thats beating the dead horse. Pretty soon this thread will rival the HH thread on the PowWow for length.
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They still talking HH bows. One of these days I'll read that thread, probably right after I finish War and Peace. :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
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I remember back last January when hova was really chomping at the bit for Kelly to draw the names. With that excitement I thought his would be the first one shipped. Hmmmmm.....Funny how things work out.
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I didn't ship thems weekend. My wife was out of town rifle hunting and then I had to process a deer when she got home. Anyway, its in the tube and hofefully shipping tomorrow...
And I couldn't find the tube. Then the dog ate all my stamps. Then my mailady was sick and, and, uh... The sun was in my eyes.
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baha! you got me with "the sun was in my eyes" haha! If I had a dollar for every time I said that after a shot... well I wouldn't have much money but I'd have some
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Communication is important I suppose but there comes a time when it starts to be seen as merely lip service....I'm gonna go look in my sock drawer for a fresh bandsaw blade and maybe a cold raspberry beer. Or I should run down to the gas station and get a real beer so Roy doesnt laugh at my sissy tendancies anymore.
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You couldn't handle a hot fudge sunday Nate:)
:deadhorse:
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Has the pool started to see if the bow is shipped before the list is started for 2012??
:readit: :laughing:
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I thought HARD about going down the road but instead settled in to watch the packers absolutely destroy the vikings and drank some water.
HOWEVER...to make up for it, its bowling night with my dad and I am sure that more than just a couple Capn and Cokes will slide down my gullet...
Mmmmmmmm...HOT fudge sounds good right about now.
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Enjoy the time with your Dad, Nate. I lost my Dad in 1995 and Mom in 1994, 1 year apart. It's never the same after that my friend.. Roy
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Dang, I felt ashamed to get the one I made out in July.
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I felt bad sending my swap bow out the end of June!
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Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
I felt bad sending my swap bow out the end of June!
Probably wouldn't have mattered when you sent it out. :smileystooges:
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DVS, I got one nerve left and your standing on it Boy:) Ya smarty pants.... :)
Been talken to Hova in PM'S. He sent me a picture of his swap bow! Gonna ship it out tomorrow, so he said.
There ya go Mike:)
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Come on out Roy. After we settle this we can go chase whitetails. Missouri doesn't have draw weight restrictions. Haha
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On my way, ya don't drink sissy pants berry beer do ya? :)
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Oooo Oooo I DO I DO!!!
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Haha. Jack daniels.if you please. Kate you can come down to. I'll send you home with more osage than you can shake a 30 pound stick at. Roy, rifle season is. Over next week then its all bows. Over the counter tagsbare cheap too.
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Someday I will make it out that way and maybe even bring you some Raspberry Shock Top Ale...i will turn you manly men into sissy believers who only need 30 pounds to knock down any creature in north america.
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Kate? LMAO, sorry Nate, you are now Kate:)
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Alan Mann sent me an email with a link to the story OHIO TRAD HUNT over on the PowWow side of things...it looks like the osage selfie I built for this swap has scored over there in Pennsylvania. CONGRATULATIONS CHISLER!!!
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And you guys are mean :bigsmyl:
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Fantastic.. I seen the Buck picture already. Alan lives 30 miles from me and him and I have built Osage Bows together at each others bow shops.
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I was curious if there was a connection there or if you knew eachother. Glad it has worked out so well for him. Now I have work on gettin blood on mine I suppose. Those are always the BEST bow pictures when there is all three parts...the man, the stick, the game.
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OH HOVA?
YOO-HOO Hova?
Come on Dude, get er done............
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Maybe HE is lost in the sock drawer now.
I ran out of beer....off to the store to buy some more.
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Hey, did you guys see the thread from Kelly on the PowWow. Looks like he did alright with that osage bow he was building in the sand box.
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Yep, that's a nice buck for our traditional soldier!
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OMG...do you know what JUST occurred to me?
I do not own a single bow I have built. My son is shooting a bamboo backed maple one that I built and gave to him, several have gone out on trades and swaps, one glass one got sold to a guy in Mississippi and a few have been sold/ given to friends as birthday presents...I suppose I should take the hint from KellyG and some of those guys and build MYSELF one....maybe thats why I havent collected a deer with my equipment yet. NO MOJO.
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I just shipped my second trade bow. That makes Hova dead last. C'mon man. Kate is gonna stroke of he doesn't get his raspberry beer.
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Probably lost the post office now.
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I hope Hova is ok, haven't seen a post in a while. The bow, well it's just a bow. Sure we would like to see it sent, but here's hoping all is well with Hova and his family.
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I had the same thoughts, Roy. I even did a quick search of the local papers to see if his named popped up, nothing. So hopefully he is just busy with life and will be back with us soon, with photo's, tracking numbers, plans for next bow and combination to the lock on the sock draw.
Hey if we all send him socks for christmas maybe it will be too full to loose anything in. :)
Stick with it Hova.
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Took his toys and went home...doesnt wanna play with us anymore :(
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Well Hova, hope all is well.
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Somebody should be getting a long white tube tomorrow.
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Originally posted by DVSHUNTER:
Somebody should be getting a long white tube tomorrow.
wish I could be there to see the his grin from ear to ear. :bigsmyl:
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I cannot wait to see this final stick and the accompanying hero shot. I am assuming that this is the final bow since Hova disappeared???
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PS...I drank up all that Raspberry Shock Top and was telling Roy that my wifey, after watching me stress out over this fly rod I was building my friend, brought me home a pint of Capn Morgan and a six pack of pepsi..life is good again even though I am still getting some tiny air bubbles in my finish...urgh!!!
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I got the long white tube today from DVSHunter and inside was a very well made osage selfbow. Backed only with thin air. I shot it a few times and the arrows went right next to one another at 20 yards. Very shootable and well made. 58" long, 50# @ 25" (that's all I drew it today, woke up with a sore arm, I'm thinking close to 60# @ 28" it's not marked, but I don't need it to be.) Great craftsmanship and I've always wanted an osage orange self bow.
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Congratulations on a fine bow. Your original bowyer vanished on us and DVS stepped up to pick up his slack.
This is not the last bow we still have a bowyer who does not have a bow. One more and we are 100%
That is really a great looking bow thanks DVS for stepping up.
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Ohhhhhhh momma that is a nice one. Perhaps if our missing builder does not step up we could all get together and get him hooked up. I know I have so many bows that I would gladly forward the one I received in order to put a bow in the other guys hands. I might need a little help with shipping costs but have no qualms about helping a feller who needs a bow.
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life is good again even though I am still getting some tiny air bubbles in my finish...
Kate, ya have had tiny bubbles in your finish for a long time son:)
DVS, ^5 Brother for stepping up to the plate.. Thank you.. Roy
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Don't get much better than the folks around here!
I sent Hova a PM so we shall see, I do hope all is well for him and the family.
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Air bubbles in MY finish...this is also true.
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Ya it's prolly all that Sissy Pants Raspberry beer ya been drinken son:)
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ALSO probably true..Maybe I will try pumpkin spice now.
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Glad you like it Mike. It is 59@28 on my scale and the finish is shellac. :archer2:
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Sounds about right. I usually just round up. I've never had one that short, is it cool then to draw it 28"? (I actually draw a little less)
-Mike
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What Raspbeery Shock top? I usually make my own "stuff", so I'm not to hip on the comercially available drink.
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It's been drawn to 28 lots of times Mike. Think at 58in its on the short side for you draw, but nothing that osage can't handle. There wasn't much set surprisingly either. Good luck with your arm. If it continues to bother you and the weight becomes an issue, let me know and I can reduce it for you some. Sorry for not marking the bow, I hate writing on them. In fact the marker will.probably wear off after awhile. Then it will look its best.
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Dave, No problem on anything. I hope I wasn't sounding ungreatful, because I couldn't be happier. I shoot bows from 36" recurve I make for kids, to 70# 68" longbows, so I have no problem adjusting for legnth, I have learned over the years to draw things until they feel right. I'm very pleased with it. In fact it might sound funny but I only have that, and one other bow that are mine. I can't hunt this year because I'm too busy, but I plan to take a deer with it next year.
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I'm last? woo!
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John but not forgotten You can trust in that.
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That was funny..."John but not forgotten"
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Alright enough pokin' and gougin' at Hova.
I sent him a PM and he assured me his bow would ship by monday. He has till Monday to redeem his self.
Honestly there have been a few times that I was real late shipping something and sure did appreciate the grace on the other end. Matter of fact I got a few things I needed to ship some time back. I think I'll go get right on that. (working 6 days a week sure makes it tough) LOL
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Sorry, was playing on the computer trying to learn an edit function and my dog stepped on the keyboard. Pugs...who would have thunk they were so needy.
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Very sweet bow David. Good for you Bro!
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Thanks keenan. It's not the bow we talked about awhile back, that one didn't make it, but I think i saved the skins. All this talk about yew has me really eyeballing my stave so i might call you up soon.
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I spent a good part of my day going through all 184 pages of this swap. This is an extremely talented group of folks!
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YAY...its Monday.
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Wellp. Maybe I'll have a bow, maybe I won't. Can't wait to start on the next year's bow swap. I'll be making a glass one this year around, woo!
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I got a quick question for you all,what were some of your shipping costs for a one piece bow that would fit in a 3-4" x 66" shipping tube/ pvc pipe? also how about a 3 piece bow that fits in a box?
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I think I was in maybe 18 bucks...usually around 20ish I think is the norm.
Thats a one piece bow around 66 to 68 inches.
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shipping from canada cost around $80 to my recipient- i did send a few extra small things- just to fill the tube up- but i geuss that added a little extra weight.
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Next swap will be a glass bow from me. I should be able to get two or three done before that due date so PLENTY of time to practice. Might have to hope for a short guy so that shipping charges can be less.
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My bow was like 60" long and I think I used a 3" tube. If I remember right, I think it was between 12 and 13 bucks to ship. I thought it was quite a bargain.
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Yep, that's about what mine was. I used the good ole usps.
On another note... Let's hope Hova shipped today. He did promise. Post office closes at 530 here I think.
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I was told to not pick or gouge at Hova so I am not going to say a thing. :-)
I am thinking that a deflexed bushbow would be super cheap on the shipping front. They NAIL you hard when you get oversized.
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It was not for the swap but I shipped 2 bows, 1 bow blank, and about 9 arrows back from Iraq and that was not over $40.
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Kate, I'm not pickin on him, just noting that he said he would ship today. That's all. :cool: :deadhorse:
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Thanks everyone! I wanted to make a one piece bow for the swap next year but I did not know what to expect in shipping. Looks like I will be making an one piece cant wait till January!!!
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I have shipped out allot of bows all over the country, most range between 12-25 dollars. When in a tube and USPS
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I shipped my trade bow in a 6' piece of drain pipe (much lighter than PVC) from AK to AR and it ran about $22 through the USPS even with $200 insurance.
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Yep, around $25 bucks with some insurance by the usps. Not too bad.
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I hear ya DVS...I hear ya... (heavy sigh)
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I talked to Hova on the phone sunday and he assured me he would ship today so DVS is right... We'll see.
If it doesn't arrive by thursday then he's done and I will have a back up sent to you John.
I have a few bows in the works and I'm sure one will be next years swap bow. :bigsmyl:
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Got my fingers crossed for the guy. I am glad there is a backup plan in case.
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Just made up some new arrows, and hopefully I'll have a bow waiting for me back home when I get back from school for winter break. That'd be a nice winter surprise! I don't have the facilities to make a bow here at school but I can spend time making strings, arrows etc.
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John as long as you have some outdoor space you have the facilities. Plus you may spark interest and get few buddies in the process.
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John I feel bad that you have had to be on the unfortunate end of things in this trade. I hope he made good on his promise and sent it out Monday. If not, I am sure that we will make it right by you as a community so as not to let this bad experience sour you on the yearly swap idea. I hear you about doing bow making at school...STRICTLY forbidden here.
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Nate there have been a few guys step up and offer an extra bow both years. Just goes to show the true spirit of things here.
John I will do some checking on things and find out for whether it shipped or not. I hope so but if not there is a back up plan.
Next year I guarantee there won't be anybody waiting this long, I will start banning after 90 days from the the deadline. I hate to be that way but action always seem to make a point. I will also be requiring phone #'s to be sent to me and Kelly if he helps again. I expect a bid turn out and Kelly and myself will have alot to deal with and won't need it drug out any longer than necessary.
Stiks
P.S. John if there is any way you can let me know tomorrow if your bow arrives by tomorrow I would appreciate it.
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Stiks, I will help with the next swap if you need a hand. Who's Kelly? LOL
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Kudos to you Stiks.
I know that the task you undertake can be a difficult one, and the good Lord knows that I personally would not want it (organizational skills is NOT my strong suit) but sometimes you have to do that hard job like nagging and/or banning those who cannot live up to their commitments. We all appreciate you ramrodding this operation and doing what it takes to make sure that it runs smoothly year after year. THANKS AGAIN to you and Kelly.
Sincerely
Nathan
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Sitks I am with you through thick and thin and this year I will have the hard part too. Making a bow for someone.
The good news is I still have my spread sheet so anyone who wants to be in just has to give any updated info.
Then just add in all he new bowyers.
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Nate I couldn't have done it this year without Kelly. I didn't have the time to this year and he done a fantastic job of keeping me informed. All I did was contact a few late comers.
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OH Roy don't make me come out to PA and get a but woopin.
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I hope Hova is okay. I know first hand that life (family, work, the unforeseen mishap, etc.) can quickly rearrange your best-laid plans. I do hope you get your bow, though, John. You've graciousness and patience! :)
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Come on out Kelly, we can get into some kind of trouble :)
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Hats off to all you fine gentlemen!
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Originally posted by KellyG:
OH Roy don't make me come out to PA and get a but woopin.
Stop by and grab me kelly. We can all build bows in roys nice shop.
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We can do that. Grab Semo and Pearly Boy on yer way east....
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We might be able to do that after bowseason. Hmmm... Split gas five ways...
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Think we otta invite Kate? :)
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You guys are funny.
Maybe we should just have a swap weekend. All pile into Roy's place, make a huge mess of shavings, swap our bows and leave. Think you could handle that Roy. Would take some of the pressure of Stiks and Kelly. :)
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Ol Roy helpin with the swap,,,,,,,,Oh my,,, Kris is things really that bad? :laughing: just kidding,,Good for you Roy for your offer and thanks again for all you both did Kris and Kelly.
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Kate can drive cuz no cop.would believe anyone would be drinking raspberry beer in a car full of dudes.
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If it was a sissy cop from montana toting along his 40 pound recurve he might believe.
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Yall have me rolling.
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LMAO. Come on down Razor. You too Katie.
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Are we planning a RoyJam or what? I think I'd just invite myself along for that :readit: Long as I could keep from laughing too hard to crack a rib I could probably make a few shavings :bigsmyl:
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Ok, pickup Stiks on yalls way east. I wanna see how he makes his toothpick bows:)
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You know I got real good at that over the spring and summer LOL
Between my toothpick bows, Kates sissy bows, and Roy's ol'man bows we should be able to cover anything.
Oh yeah almost forgot about Kelly's desert bow that blew after the monster. with MOJO like that I hope Kelly draws my name next year :readit:
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Hey one hit wonders that is my specialty. :)
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Royjam... I like that.
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Yup stiks I hope Kelly draws your name too. I sure don't want him drawing my name. LMAO just kidding Kelly. And if Kate draws my name I'll prolly end up with ah fly rod:)
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I kinda figured you for the fly fishing type Roy
LOL Stiks
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The only jam Roy knows anything about is strawberry.
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Kelly, ya keep it up, and I will make that road trip to KS and lay a good thumpen on ya son:) Might even show ya how to make river cane arrows after we patch ya up a bit... LOL
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Don't worry Kelly. Ol Roy is all bark and no bite. :laughing: He's been barking about commin up north to give me a tail kickin for several years now
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Hey if you guys are picking up Pearly, grab me too. Somebody's gotta cook for all you buggers at Royjam!
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Well that does it!
I'm gonna buy me a big ole motor home and make a road trip all over the USA. Gonna stop and thump Stiks first, then smack Pearly Drummer Boy around, then onto Semo and DVS in MO, pop on over to KS and smack Kelly up along side the head, then onto Montana and put a whoopen on the Raspberry Beer Girl, Kate. Might even stop into see Kenny and show him how to make BBO Bows. Then hop on over and lay the smack to Keenan.
Yer welcome too fish, but I kin cook. I am well trained here. My wife is Irish / Italian, so I walk the line because she's mine. LOL
What's ya all think bout dat? :)
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So basically All I have to do is sit back and watch who ya just thumped and I'll know where ya is on your rout...... Me thinks I have lots of time to hide. :campfire:
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With as old as roy is keenan you may have to wait awhile for him to get to you. Thats alot of whuppin and nappin in there. Plus you know how slow old men drive.
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Ok, changed my mind. Gonna head straight to MO and thump up on DVS first. Fugger I'll get the sissy pants out of the way first to conserve my energy for the rest of the thumpen trip:) How far is Billings Montana from O' Fallon, Mo? Ole Kate will be second on the gonna get ah thumpen trip:)
LMAO, we gotta do something to pass the time, while we are waiting on Hova's Bow to arrive:)
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I'm just happy the good ole Adirondacks aren't on the trip. Probably too cold for a southern PA old guy any way, though waiting on Hova's bow could give him plenty of time to enlarge the list. Tough if you put a wuppin on Kelly and sticks Roy, you might be left holding the stick (pun intended :) ) and have to run this show all by your lonsome self.
Any word from Hova, speaking of the boy.
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Now I am worried about Roy ole boy. That is a lot of physical activity for someone who should have a rocker on the front porch. Oh if you leave MO and head to MT then I am between the two, I guess you could stop here and give me mine whoopin. Then rest for you long trip.
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Tanks
U guys sur nugh kno how to make 1 split a gut. Thanks again, I needed the relief after this week.
Thankfully, at least for me, bow building season is about to start. With five donated bows, the bow swap, two for my Alaska moose hunt next fall, and a couple for friends, my spare time is booked
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I hope Hova's bow shows up soon....sounds like there are going to be a lot less bowyers on the bench if ol' man Roy sets out on his whoopin' expedition.........
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What a dull place this will be without all of us :smileystooges: :help: :deadhorse:
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No word from Hova, I sent John a PM to confirm whether or not it arrived and as soon as I hear back him I will go to the back up if needed.
Stiks
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Originally posted by Walt Francis:
....two for my Alaska moose hunt next fall,...
:clapper:
Stop in and say Hi if you get a chance!
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Doesnt surprise me....
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If one ot these caravans swings south let me know. I'd love to go to RoyJam too. I don't think he even has a reason to smack me! d;^)
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Raspberry beer ALL around....
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Pat I think with your beard he could not get a good lick in anyway.
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Yer more than welcome here Pat .. Your one of the good guys, it's those other varmints out west that need a good butt whoopen.
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Roy just so you know I am a eastern transplant. I am a good ole VA boy at heart.
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I thought there was something wrong with you Kelly:) LMAO
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I shoulda been following this. Thats some funny stuff. I dig Roys plan.
Funny stuff
I see the Raspberry beer is still going over big.
CTT
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Ok, all sing together here...
Here we sit like birds in the wilderness, birds in the wilderness, birds in the wilderness.
Here we sit like birds in the wilderness, birds in the wilderness, birds in the wilderness.
Waiting to hear about Hova's Bow.............
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Didn't know you could sing, Roy. Need an agent? :saywhat:
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I'm thinking I can hum a few bars. Enjoying me a nice captain morgan and coke...watching ultimate fighter finale. Life is good...I wonder what story Hova will have if and when he returns.
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That's a girls drink... Geeze Katie..
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"Enjoying me a nice captain morgan and coke...watching ultimate fighter"
Now that is more like it. Capt-n-coke and some fights. Now your talkin'
Oh oh, he is studyin' up Roy.
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Theres just no pleasing you is there Roy...damnit you better come out to montana and teach me a lesson. Bring your flyrod though cuz brother its FISHING SEASON on the BIG HORN.
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OH, shall I take that as an INVITE? :)
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roY i know a bunch a these guys espicaLLY D V S SO THIS COWBOYS GOT OU R BACK BUT YA BETTER HEAD TO WYOMING AND WELL CHASE SOME ELK BEARS CATS U NAME IT THEN GO PAY THESE GUYS A VISIT LOL BROCK P S HOPE HOVA SHIPPED THAT BOW THIS IS GETTN REDECLIOUS AS HELL!!!IF HE DOESNT I VOULNTEER TO MAKE THE GUY A OSAGE BOW
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Brock, im coming out there for elk this year come hell or high water. If roy has to be there then so be it. I cant wait to head west! Heather and ann said to tell ypu hi to brock!
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Soopernate: I remember growing up my dad and I would have our testosterone trip to the Little Big Horn in Fort Smith, MT and fish out of Quill Gordon's guides. It's those trips and others that got me to love the outdoors and have a passion for doing it on my own. We tied so many san juan's and scuds those trips.
I think that is what lead me to start building bows. I saw the price of a new bow and though... maybe I could make something that could fling an arrow. Love growing in wisdom as bows break and bows survive. Much like life I guess. Hope Hova comes through.
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Oh Roy if you head that way for FFing Stop in kick my butt. Then I will grab my 5 weight and bow to go on a road trip.
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dvs i got ya down dean marlow kerry b kent b kegan will all be here and my buddy nick mantel me n bro are waitin anytime you guys are ready were good to go brock hope hova comes thru kelly whats ther word now u say the word ill start bulidin a sub just let me know brock*
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Sure thing Brock, I'm fuggeren a couple ole timers like us could smack these pups around purty easy:)
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Heck if you guys get up here I would take ya fishing. Winter on the Big Horn is a great time if ya dont mind the cold. I dont mind the cold but DO hate combat fishing with a thousand people so avoid the river during the summer months. Thats when the two and three weights come out and we head for the little creeks and little brookies in the mountains. ALWAYS something to do here...in fact I think I am going to grab the bow and go see if there are any rabbits about this afternoon.
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Like Elmer Fudd says, be verry verry quiet.
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Brock,
Thanks for the very generous offer but it has been taken care of.
Had a bowyer from the swap (whom has chosen to remain anonymous) contact me sometime back and make the same offer. I have contacted him and he has been in touch with me and Kelly and all is good.
John will have a bow in the mail by the end of the week.
As far as Hova.....
First and foremost I hope all is well. Secondly, I feel we have given more than ample opportunity for him to ship and offers where made to help cover the cost.
I am left with no other choice than to ban him from all future bow swaps.
So now that's all settled and we can move on and start planning for the next one. Sign ups will be in just a little over a month.
Stiks
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I also hope all is well with Hova and his family.
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As do I Roy. Man I am almost jealous of the bow John is getting. I think he is going to be so pleased with it.
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I also hope Hova's okay.
But,Kelly, I still believe that I received the #1 bow of the entire swap... I'm just not a good enough shot to collect a whitetail with it...Yet! LMAO! :bigsmyl:
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Yer so full of it Red.
I got the # 1 bow, thanks to you:)
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ok sticks no plm but if ya need just hollar that offer still stands hope alls well with hova brock
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dvs and goose watch ur mail ill send you guys applications for elk in the next few weeks dv tell the gals hi cant wait to see ya all at mojam me n lori and the pups will be lookin for ya at ojam brock ps dvs ask hon8 if he wants to go to im takin my whole pack string up if im luckey ill draw that moose tag also
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190 pages later we can start thinking about the next swap. Talk about making ends meet! We can't describe the gratitude we have for sticks and Kelly for putting this on. Great hustle guys. If any help is needed next time don't hesitate to ask.
Ps. I got the bow of the swap. 2 piece Osage!!
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Let's just be sure to start a new thread when we begin the next swap and set a closure date for this one. 190 pages is too much!
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Your post just made it 191 Goose! :laughing:
I think I may go back and read it all when I retire. :rolleyes:
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I wish there was a tread for the pics only. Would speed up the viewing for me. Id love to see all the bows but cant spend all day doing it.
Mark
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There is such a thread Mark. I think it was Swissbow that started it.
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The pic thread is only 7 pages and is definitely worth a peek.
Brock you can count me in for the elk. Lookin forward to it!
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So I got a series of texts; there's a package and a letter from Kris in Petersburg Indiana! And with that, the bow swap is complete. I can't wait to get home for winter break to open it up and get a picture up!
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Kris you are a great guy. Well done my friend!
Congratulations John, You are a very paitient man!
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Congratulations Kris and Kelly and everyone else that participated. Some incredible bows were built and the spirit of generosity shined through.
It takes a village to put a trade like this together and it takes a trade like this to bring that village closer together. So simple!
OK everyone, get ready. It won't be long now before the 2012 Bow Swap begins. So get your thoughts, plans and materials together...and stand by!
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Update my spread sheet showing we are 100%. Good job everyone. I can't wait for the next swap. I get to build a bow for someone.
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Great job guys! Glad to see things are wrapped up.
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Where's soop and his girly drink? I figured he would be refreshing this every 10 minutes :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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Katie went to the beauty shop to get her hair curled and nails done.
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Sorry was hung over...too many capn morgan and diet (YES DIET cokes. Im getting older and fatter by the minute) Was filling in with a team on my dads bowling league last night. Had a pretty good night too averaging 209 over a set of four. LOVE the time with my dad. I will be poppin the top on the ole shock top raspberry tonight after parent teacher conferences hoping to God that the alcohol will kill the strep bugs that have infested my wife. Glad you got your bow John...hope that many arrows find their way home. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATED SUCCESSFULLY IN THIS SWAP!!!
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Well done Friends! :clapper:
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Jack in the shop tonight! Another one in the books.
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John Glad to hear your bow showed up.
It came from an anonymous builder that was in the swap whom chose to remain anonymous.
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Its over? . . . . .ALREADY
Well it was a pretty interesting experience. Lots of different bows from lots of "different" people. Cant wait to see what the next one brings to my door.
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i enjoyed lookin at all the bows that were built for this swap, lots of skill and talent . hey fish , did you get blood on that bow yet? oh i also think osage tree made a much finer example of a 2 piece that is in africa now. rv
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What happened to Hova did he never send his bow?
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Never have heard back from Hova. As was said before I hope all is well with him and his family. All he needs to do is get on here and make it right and I'm sure all would be forgivin'.
It's his choice how to handle it at this point, All participants received a bow and all is well. Now it's time to plan the next one.
Stiks
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I was out in the garage taking stock in my materials...Bamboo, ipe in case I go that way. I have some black glass, some clear glass and maple lams in case I go that way....and one solitary stave of mock orange (not osage) from Florida that I wanna play with before too long. Hmmmmm..decisions decisions decisions....better have me another raspberry ale.
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Well I have one Osage bow blank, one hickory stave, an Osage log that was dropped off by a friend, and a failed hickory self bow I think I could back and belly lam as my last resort.
I can't wait I am so excited.
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Originally posted by broketooth:
i enjoyed lookin at all the bows that were built for this swap, lots of skill and talent . hey fish , did you get blood on that bow yet? oh i also think osage tree made a much finer example of a 2 piece that is in africa now. rv
Unfortunately not yet, but only cause I havent' been able to enjoy the season like I thought. My spot dried up a bit so I was unable to bloody up that pretty orange stick. But when I do you'll know!
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I've been following the swap and I'm so inspired by the great bows I've seen here and by the spirit that everyone has shown here.
I'm thinking that I would like to get involved with the next swap but I only have two successful bows under my belt and a lot still to learn. If there were other newbies involved I would feel more confident about joining, otherwise I can wait another year and become even more inspired by the swap that is to come.
Dave.
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Dave, don't be afraid to join in. Everyone has to start somewhere and you've already got two successes under your belt. Many of us on here are relative newbies as well and you'll get plenty of help along the way from the guys on here. It is also a great learning experience and challenges each of us to give the best that we can, so jump in and get your feet wet......Dan,
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Thanks Dan. I'd love to get my feet wet - they're just a bit cold that's all. When is the next swap starting? If I can get another bow built and shooting before then I'll have the confidence to build one for someone else.
Dave.
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Dave, the next one will start in January.....Dan
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Dave,
You have one more successful bow than I. The next one will be my first as a bowyer.
Kelly
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Dave, Your heart is right and that is what matters. The more bows you build the more your skills develope, this is true. However most people will have poured just as much if not more heart into their first bow, as they will any other bow. I still have my very first bow and would be just as proud to have someone's first bow. It's all about the heart!
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dave im still a newbie to building bows. i also aspire to build the beautiful works of art like pat b, keenan, gordon f, forest trekker, shaun. it just takes time to develop some skills, an eye for it, and knowing when to stop. rv
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Thank you all for your kind words. I think I will sign up in January and the great community spirit shown here on TG will inspire me to even greater effort on my next few bows. As soon as the weather warms to above freezing I will start prepping material for two or three bamboo backed tri lams. That way I should be able to build to a recipients' needs.
Kelly, I may have two bows, but you have a trad kill. I won't be hunting wth my bow this year because my shooting skills are not good enough yet. Hopefully by turkey season I will be ready.
Dave.
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Dave I would almost be willing to bet my shooting skills are not any better then yours. I set my limit to 15yrds. That is as far as I felt comfortable and it worked out.
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Kelly, while practicing I have no problem putting a broadhead into the kill zone on a target. The problem is that targets don't give me the shakes like a deer does. :)
Seriously though the only practice I'm getting right now is at 10 yards in the basement and broadheads are out of the question inside the house. :scared: :nono:
I'm thinking of joining a local club so I can shoot realistic targets at different ranges.
Dave.
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Dave that is how I started archery it was a compound back then. I killed my deer at only 10yrds so get out there with you Trad bows and get one. You will not regret it.
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I think i found the perfect bow for whoever's name I get in the 2012 bow swap... heck I think I can also ship by Jan. 20th.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyV8tZGJtE&feature=related
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@ rmorris hehehe Actually that looks like a fun project! I'm tempted to make one just cause I can...
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That is pretty cool, but it looks like it is about to jump out of his hand.
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Did look kinda shocky didn't it Kelly. The Guy looked funny shooting a longbow with a peep and sights
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Stiks, back in my younger days in the early 70's. There were classes for stickbows at shoots. Bare bow and sights. Bare bow was no sights of course. The sight guys had sights, peep sights, stabilizers too. I have to chuckle to myself when I hear some new trad guys knocking guys who use sights on their stickbows. Not saying anything bad here, just thinking out loud:)
:deadhorse:
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Roy I have a set of old sights around here somewhere that came off an old recurve. It was pretty much just a rail with some pins. when I first got into trad I looked at all kinds of sights for trad bows but I'm glad I stuck with bare bow.
I guess I'm so used to seeing folks shoot bare bow it looks odd to me to see anything else. I shot wheels for years and them things look funny to me know LOL
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Been away almost a month now, catching up with the final outcome this morning. Glad to hear it's all wrapped up, sorry that our most prolific participant didn't make it to the finish line... (Anyone count up how many of the posts out of 190+ pages were his?)
I'm thinking DVS summed it up best:
Originally posted by DVSHUNTER:
Jack in the shop tonight! Another one in the books.
Now I just can't figure out which way to go next year. I hope I get a recipient who doesn't care, I have duelling dreams of glass and osage, with hickory making an occasional appearance.
Hats off to the organizers!
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David, there will be at least one of us that doesn't care what style or type (wood/glass/etc.) that we would receive...
It could even be PVC with sights, made while drinking fruity beer, or, heck- I would trade a bow for a really good set of hand made arrows from some of these guys.
Mike
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Fruity beer...good idea. A little too cold for me to get out into the shop to build a bow or arrows right now so I suppose I will content myself to build some flyrods for sale and tie some flies. NOW as soon as I can get out in the shop I have bamboo to shape and lams to grind for next years swap.
I figure I will make 2 bows and keep the loser while sending the winner.
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Good idear sooperkate.
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Anyone have an idea who the first idiot to come up with the idea of ruining perfectly good beer with fruit was? I'm rather sure it wasn't a flyfisherMAN.... But I could be wrong? (And I'm not talking about the limes that get served with a Corona here, although that can take us down a whole 'nuther road.)
:knothead:
That said, maybe there's something to be said about the character of the guy who can stomach such a concoction. Anyone that tough probably makes a pretty solid bow.
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As solid as 40lbs can be i suppose. :goldtooth: :deadhorse:
I still like the horse. He kinda the unoffical mascot of this years bow trade.
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quote:
Originally posted by DVSHUNTER:
As solid as 40lbs can be i suppose. :goldtooth: :laughing:
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Now guys, stop picken on Kate:)
:deadhorse:
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Nothing wrong with fruit beers...I like several Cheladas for lunch when we are fishing in the cold though...think of it as VEGGIE BEER. I will try as diligently as can to get to the gym three to five days a week so I can work up to a 45 or even 50 pound bow. Who knows...man club could be right around the corner for us little sissy montanans.
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Wellp, I got home today for break to a tube in my bedroom... I opened it up, and I'm speechless. Pictures to follow soon.
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Are you kidding me! We have been waiting almost six months to see this bow and you post without pictures!
Good to finally see (well at least hear for now) this thing close.
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I keep thinking about that sweet shooting osage self bow that Soopernate built for me in the recent 2011 TG Bow Swap. I posted the story and photos on Pow Wow on a thread I called "Ohio trad hunt" but I probably should have posted a picture here also. Here it is - the result of the last Bow Swap! Doesn't get any better than this.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/soopernate%202011/006tradebow2011.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s169/chisler1959/soopernate%202011/010osage8pt.jpg)
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Alan,
Congratulations on a fine animal with a great looking bow. Either Nate had help shooting it in or he really can pull a real bow. I think DV and Roy might have been selling old nNate a little short. :)
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The hard part was that I am not amblideckstreeus...ambidextorlus...well I am right handed and Alan is left. So I just shot it off his wrong side. I bought a new six pack of Raspberry Ale last night at the store....ready for BOW SWAP 2012
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I think that's the first hero pic with a swap bow.
:clapper: :clapper:
Nice!
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Nate, I think I see a pattern developing with these raspberry brews. Might have to give one a try sometime, just to see what all the fuss is about. All brew talk aside, that is a sweet looking bow and there is no doubt that it works. Congrats Chisler!!!!!Dan
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C'mon John, we're all waiting for the pictures...
Congrats Alan, it's awesome that someone made serious meat out of this year's swap!
:clapper:
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That is great to see, there was a thread on her to post Hero pics in, but I think Semo got a turkey with his and now this fine buck. These are the only two I have heard of from the swap.
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well, here she is. I believe this to be the belle of the ball. Silvershooter built this beauty.
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd411/JLipinski/DSCN8681.jpg?t=1324511338)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd411/JLipinski/DSCN8680.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd411/JLipinski/DSCN8679.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd411/JLipinski/DSCN8677.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd411/JLipinski/DSCN8676.jpg)
Zebrawood, maple, and ebony. Limbs are maple core, zebrawood veneers, and bo-tuff. The tips are phenolic and bison horn. I can't believe what I've got in front of me. In the letter, the only requirement is that I harvest something with this bow, and I fully intend to. My first ever deer hunting season this past fall yielded nothing, but I'm not discouraged. I enjoyed every minute of it. I believe this trade bow will prove great for turkey in the spring... Maybe I'll try that. If not, I hope to take a deer with it next year.
Long story short: I don't know what to say; it's beautiful. Silvershooter, your work is fantastic.
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Very nice bow, John.
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Thats a sweet bow john. Good things come to those who wait. Also a nod to the bowyer. Love the wood choices and super clean, sleek look.
Oh yeah :deadhorse:
That'll do horse. That'll do.
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I think we have a winner!!!
Now can we archive this thread and get started on the next one. Maybe we will hit 200 pages on that one.
:campfire: :campfire:
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Tony,
I'm a thinking that we just keep this thread going and see if we can eventually catch the Hill bow thread on Pow Wow for the number of posts. :D
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It is quite a long thread.
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Man I have had PIC of that thing for sometime now. It was all I could do to keep from posting them. I just did not want to ruin it of ya. I had to clean out my key board to keep the drool from messing up my key board.
I swear just when you think man no bow can top this on or that one one comes along that is just as good. In this case I know there are none that can top it for it is the last on this year.
Great Job now lets get ready for the next one.
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Wow, that's awesome.
The hero shot made me go get out the great osage stick that H8nonCubs sent me. I'd put it aside while I concentrated on one bow for the season. But now I'm thinking I concentrated on the wrong bow.
This swap has been great. I don't think we'll ever catch the Hill thread though. Time to concentrate on 2012 now!
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That is an amazing bow to end the trade off with!
Can't wait for the next trade! :)
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RASPBERRY ALE ALL AROUND. Call this swap FINALLY finished. Oh yeah I had one last night while soaking in a hot tub. It was awesome.
Oh yeah...congratulations John. This group DEFINITELY saved the best for last. I think 80 plus other guys just turned a slight shade of green over that bow. You deserve it my friend...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU GUYS...now bring on 2012.