ok so I got everything profiled last night and let me just say, 53" is SHORT!
I have been reading , and I see people get 30# @ 28" on a 48" board bow (probably hickry ), so I know I'm not that crazy. I also heard of the ishi/pyramid but can't find any info on it.
so I'm thinking of backing the white oak , so that I can keep it hunting weight (45#) at 25-28" draw...
I was pondering ipe, but haven't worked with it at all.sinew was a thought as well, but its winter here in ohio now...
I was also planning on adding the glued recurve tips ala 4est, but wondered if brush nocks would cancel out the tips?
also thoughts on just boiling the tips and then doing brush nocks ...
thanks guys!
-hov
"I have been reading , and I see people get 30# @ 28" on a 48" board bow (probably hickry ), so I know I'm not that crazy. I also heard of the ishi/pyramid but can't find any info on it."
Who? Jawge
a post on paleo. the guy did a 48" pyramid out of hickry and said it was 30# @ 28" ... don't recall him backing it.
as far as ipe, I hadn't really chose it, it was just an option .
as for the levers, I saw someone did a short bow with glues on siyahs I think they called it...
yes, the shape is all cut out , 1/2" tips , 2 1/2" @ fades.
if I back with hickry , what about adding some length to the tips of the backing?
thanks jawge. sinew is a thought, but I haven't really looked into it seriously . its averaging about 30 degrees outside , and I don't know if sinew or hide glue has any smell or anything , but I'm sure the in-laws wouldn't like it...
-hov
Yes, hova, Tim Baker I think drew a 48 in hickory to 28 in. But a bow overdrawn like that is not a bow I'd want to take hunting. I'd hate to have it break in the field. The big thing is I don;t have Tim's skills. :) Jawge
I hear ya!
I looked at some siyahs and I just don't know if that's what I'm looking for... the molegabat looks like it would work, very simply.
what about doing recurve tips like the BAL, but extending them a bit?
looks like she might get sinewed...maybe...
-hov
I hear ya!
I looked at some siyahs and I just don't know if that's what I'm looking for... the molegabat looks like it would work, very simply.
what about doing recurve tips like the BAL, but extending them a bit?
looks like she might get sinewed...maybe...
-hov
i was thinking of wrapping it , and coating that with either poly resin (dont really want to do this)
i was wondering about maybe sinking the end of the recurve tip into the end of the bow tip , and angle it up a little , but that cuts into the back grain , and leaves me with a wedge underneath the tip. i think at brace height it would be sitting where the nock would normally be.
i wondered about the strength of a v splice , and i may need to look into it more , but i was thinking maybe of doing the recurve tip , extended a bit , and narrowed a good bit , but left a little thick , but then instead of just 6" static tips or 3" if im really lucky , id have a lot more due to the extension part...
i am looking for bows that have different combinations , and it is kinda hard to find em. i mean i know unless you're specifically copying something , that technically you have your own individual thing, but i like ideas.
i am going to google a bit about spicing in non working tips. and sinew. i know i dont want siyahs , or string risers... i need to get a new sketchbook so i can draw up some tip configs...
-hov
Hova........
How many sucessful bows have you built?
QuoteOriginally posted by JamesV:
Hova........
How many sucessful bows have you built?
I'm hoping it doesn't matter how many bows he's made. I'm making a power table with lots of interesting errors so far, and if you all have made tables, and made errors such as I, I'd like to know how you came about your "fix". I'm very interested in bows and arrows from trees and branches rather than from dowels and boards...
Keep the questions coming I say....
Aloha... :archer2:
lol...you had to ask...one :D
I looked around last night and decided on siyahs like on 4est's osage . I'm going to do em basically the same as his. but with a 3" glue joint , wrapped very similar to curt's beauty.
v splicing and z splicing is beyond the small realm of my hacksaw and buck knife...
-hov
rattus: I don't think number built really has anything at all to do about luck...lol..
its ironic you mention trees and branches ...I literally just walked in the door from ...harvesting...a black locust for the swap.
Today's to do list...
Remove tree from woods -check
Debark arrowshafts collected 2 weeks ago
Mess around with my tips.
Hova......
I didn't mean that as a dig. Sorry if it came across like that. It didn't take me long in my bowbuilding to realize that bow design takes many years of trial and error. I went back to the proven (easy builds) to gain experience and took some of the frustration out of the mix. Hang in there and Good luck on your next project.
..............James
I was going to say he has built more than me. :goldtooth:
james , I didn't take offense at all. the wife said the same thing. she saw my disappointment after all the work I put into my last break, and said keep it simple , and keep it enjoyable.
I've cut & split my locust , and its twisted...might make a good boat prop...
may end up doing a BBI instead, for the swap...
off to cut up my siyahs ...wish me luck...
-hov
Good luck
good luck... I remember my first bow...
this one is on hold for a while. while trying to find shims to clamp my locust , i cut right through one of my siyah...
-hov
hov im bulding one out of yew now it s 41 1/2 im gonna sinew it 3 layers look at the one s silet bear posted im hoping itll work i tell ya it s pure hell trying to chase a ring on that yew to 1 growth ring but this is my biggest challane yet brock
QuoteOriginally posted by hova:
rattus: I don't think number built really has anything at all to do about luck...lol..
its ironic you mention trees and branches ...I literally just walked in the door from ...harvesting...a black locust for the swap.
Today's to do list...
Remove tree from woods -check
Debark arrowshafts collected 2 weeks ago
Mess around with my tips.
What is a black locust? For us on the lily pad we'd be thinking a grasshopper with a suntan... :D
Much Aloha.... :archer2:
lol rat. locust is a nice hard wood that is native (iirc) to lots of the mainland. i been wondering if any of you wai'lole use hibiscus for bows. we have rose of sharon up here that is hibiscus related , and the stuff is hard as heck.
i am still planning on finishing my 51" pyramid , but i am going to back it wiith hickory. if i dont , its going to end up being a 15lb bow. i went a little crazy on the handle area before i did anything else , so it needs at least a backing. i may also sinew back it when it warms up.
right now i have a 51" bend through the handle in the works. i have seen a lot of <48" bows latelyy that people got to 25" draws , with rigid handles , so im not worried even the slightest on the bendy handle bow. its going to have some fabric accents , like mini micarta , and i may add a piece of hickry to the back to up the weight a bit once i see where she is at.... but shes gonna get grumley sorta style brush nocks , and most likely a dark stain so it can be my stalker.
gonna go with something a little different for the handlle too...
-hov