Post by: AkDan on October 03, 2009, 08:41:00 PM
I did want to ask, what size round file for string grooves yall prefer? The tip overlays are glued on already.
(http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/21093/2817269210039378858S500x500Q85.jpg)
Post by: Dano on October 03, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: Pat B on October 03, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: AkDan on October 03, 2009, 10:15:00 PM
Gonna run to the hardware store....was going through some old stuff on the puter, I couldnt remember what size LOL!....boy I've read this stuff a zillion times, damn if I can remember any of it heh.
Dano...definatly will do! Gotta work tomorrow (my monday), so I need to get the file or I'll have to run into the big town after work tomorrow ugg. wait wait...I may have remembered something, some files I had tucked away for this jobs a couple years ago...now if everything wasnt in rubber maids uggg!
Post by: AkDan on October 03, 2009, 11:06:00 PM
Anyways, the left limb in this pic looks flat and the right one almost looks like too much bend near handle? almost hingy?!?!
(http://inlinethumb12.webshots.com/44235/2572253970039378858S600x600Q85.jpg)
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 02:52:00 AM
It's bending a little more...the left limb still seems flat? the right limb I found the hingey area using Eric's tiller gizmo. On that right limb, about 7"es up from the tip I found this knot that has me concerned. Actually saw it all along and thought I was going to get through it. oops! might have to do a Dean T's repair job? Now if I could only find that article. (and an extra piece of osage ugg) (http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/36886/2298725910039378858S600x600Q85.jpg)
The hinge is on the right limb almost right smack mid limb...dunno how I missed it early on...but I can see now using the gizmo where I took too much wood off a 3" section or so. It doesnt look like I have much bending near the fades though....what would be the order you'd go after? Mid limb, tips then fades? Anyways here's the last pic for the nite.
(http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/20143/2867596870039378858S600x600Q85.jpg)
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 02:54:00 AM
Post by: dutchwarbow on October 04, 2009, 04:49:00 AM
Nick
Post by: dutchwarbow on October 04, 2009, 05:20:00 AM
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
After seeing that pic now that I'm up again there looks to be litle to almost no change between the too...and here I was excited LOL!
Post by: Dano on October 04, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
Post by: Pat B on October 04, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
Post by: Dano on October 04, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
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Post by: Pat B on October 04, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
Post by: Dano on October 04, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
Gotta say the tiller gizmo is pretty slickm. I think I mounted my tiller tree to hit for this shorty LOL!
So, I'll get the left limb bending some more, outer third and the right side from midlimb out? I know there's a bad spot right smack before it, huge gap difference using the gizmo....well huge to me :D
how close to the tips do you want to get before you stop having them bend to much? I know the vid said 6"es (dryad, dont have a vcr anymore to watch Deans video again ugg!) I marked it off at 6"es and have taken very little off past this.
Post by: dutchwarbow on October 04, 2009, 04:18:00 PM
Nick
Post by: Pat B on October 04, 2009, 04:21:00 PM
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
I did look at the spot I think was hingey on the right limb...It's almost exactly mid limb where I had marked not to remove wood from.
Ok...back to work for me..ugg!
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: AkDan on October 04, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
But the left limb at the fades looks a tad stiff?
I keep looking at this pic and notice the flat spot on the outer third on the right limb right where that pin knot shoots acrossed....do I plug it? or do I try and shave through it first? (http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/42716/2629803410039378858S600x600Q85.jpg)
Post by: AkDan on October 05, 2009, 12:48:00 AM
and my pull is dead..it's a 100lb pulley but a piece of crap..good idear needs a better set of bearings in it and less slop to keep from binding. ugg
Post by: shamus on October 05, 2009, 06:54:00 AM
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But the left limb at the fades looks a tad stiff?yes.. but a hair stiff. Go slow. 10-20 passes with the scraper, then check the tiller. C-r-a-w-l towards it.
it's come a long way since the first picture. You're getting close to it.
Post by: dutchwarbow on October 05, 2009, 07:24:00 AM
tiller looks good enough to me. Better get her braced before she comes in underweigh or becomes whiptillered!
Nick
Post by: AkDan on October 06, 2009, 02:52:00 AM
Post by: Shaun on October 06, 2009, 09:31:00 AM
I would not worry about the knot area near the tip. There is very little force that far out on the limb. Leave it alone and maybe a little thick there till near the end of the process.
Post by: Shaun on October 06, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: AkDan on October 06, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
This one is rolling when I'm pulling down on the pulley to the long string. I'll remember that though. Make's sense on the short string.
Hey how far is iowa city into iowa? I'm headed to Mn tomorrow. One of these years I'm going to stop by Roger Marconi's place...never seems to be in the cards though and this fall is already pretty packed with family and friends I'll be lucky just to hunt a few hours in the mornings. ugg....
Post by: AkDan on November 14, 2009, 08:00:00 AM
ps sorry for the bad pic...it's 4am and I'm still up LOL! got a new vcr and had to watch Deans vid again, it's been quite awhile!
Post by: Pat B on November 14, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
Work your way out slowly and give the limbs plenty of exercise after each wood removal.
Post by: AkDan on November 14, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
sorry was up way to late last nite playing with the bow.
As for string tracking..it's really close. My timber hitch isnt so great on the one end so I'm not 100% that the string is straight but it is quite close, might need a small adjustment. Going to make a double loop string for it or a dynaflight single loop string.
I havent drawn it past this point at all.
Post by: AkDan on November 16, 2009, 03:14:00 AM
I retract that last statement I have drawn it past this on the longstring. The last photo is as far as I've gone on the short string. Been a rough couple of nites. Plan on working on it more tomorrow.
Post by: Pat B on November 17, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
Dean has done a lot for wood bow building but I do some things different from Dean. With self bows the staves can be too irregular to make brace measurements for positive or negative tiller. I never bother with that when I build bows. I do pay attention to string tracking at first brace. Generally at that point you have enough "meat" in the bow to make those corrections without overshooting final draw weight. Full draw is where it matters to me. If your bow is well tillered at full draw it is well tillered at brace. That being said...I'm going opposite from most others by trying to see how simple I can make it and still be effective and ethical for hunting.
Post by: Art B on November 17, 2009, 06:25:00 AM
Like Pat stated, full draw tiller is what you want. But the one thing I've noticed is after I set my tiller at full draw my bows are usually positive tillered between 1/8" to 3/16". Guess its the way I grip my bows. I use a medium grip.
ART B