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Title: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 26, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
I built a hot box, that I want to use no just for a 90F drying box for boo and hickory but possibly later for a 180F glue up box.  What insulation should I use?  I am looking to buy reflextix they sell at lowes, but not sure it will handle 180F regularly.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Aeronut on July 26, 2009, 11:08:00 PM
I built my hotbox out of 1/2" foil backed foam insulation and it has not suffered any ill effects yet.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/aeronut/Hotbox.jpg)

Dennis
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 26, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
Wow, thats a mackdaddy hotbox.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: No-sage on July 27, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
Mine is plywood without insulation and it gets to 180 easily.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Kanga on July 27, 2009, 08:30:00 AM
Mark.

I used the bubble wrap insulation in my heat box.

You can see the roll in this pic.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Ausie-guy/Long%20Bow/DCP_3000.jpg)

I just used a staple gun to secure it in place.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/Ausie-guy/Long%20Bow/DCP_3006.jpg)

Have not had any trouble at all with it and the outside of the box is cool to touch.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: 2treks on July 27, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
I use heat strips in my form now, but my box was plain ole ply wood NO inulation and I could reach temp with no problem. Now I have cut it down and can dry boo or overlays at about 110-120 with only a pair of 100 watters.
BUT. it will heat your shop up, and in the summer that can stink(100% humidity) so An insulated box may be better for that reason.
chuck
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 27, 2009, 09:01:00 AM
If you are using your box for wood drying as well as glue curing, insulation is an easy way to save a bunch of cash in the long run.

I built a simple 12"X12"X6' drying box. At first it wasn't insulated and I ran 3, 100 watt bulbs to keep the temp up to 100 degrees. I insulated it with cheap foil backed insulation and can keep it 100 degrees with 3, 60 watt bulbs turned down with a dimmer switch to where they barely are on.

I use a lot less power and haven't replaced a bulb in the last 5 years.  

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/100_0023.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 27, 2009, 09:07:00 AM
Russ, I think that is the stuff at Lowes I am talking about.

I know I could get to 180F without, but want to isulate more to get consistent temps without fluctuations
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 27, 2009, 09:10:00 AM
Eric, do you think that foil backed insulation could take heat up to 180f for a glue curing too?
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Kanga on July 27, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
Mark.

Thats where I got mine from.

I also have the thermostat from Binghams it shuts the lights off at 180 and back on again at 150.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: 2treks on July 27, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
Good point Eric(as always)Thanks
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 27, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
My inner box is 1/4" plywood, I am sure the insulation will stand 180 degrees.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Aeronut on July 27, 2009, 10:05:00 PM
As stated above, mine is made of foil backed foam insulation.  The only structural wood in it is the 3/4"X3/4" wood strips in the corners.  It stands up to the heat with no problems.  I use two 100W bulbs and two 60W bulbs and get 170*+ heat in it.  Very little heat escapes and the box is cool to the touch.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/aeronut/DSC00243.jpg)

I cut small squares of paneling to mount the light sockets on so they wouldn't make contact with the foil.   :scared:
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v511/aeronut/Lightmounts.jpg)  

It's super light and easy to move around the shop.  Been using it for about five years now.

Dennis
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 27, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
Well, I about finished her tonight.  I just picked up a roll of that stuff like russ (kanga) uses.  I still have to hook up the lights and I will be ready to bake some cookies in there.  Hey, do you guys put a fan in there?  To me, that would make sense to keep the heat circulating.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Kanga on July 28, 2009, 12:20:00 PM
Mark.

I don't have a fan in mine, I don't really see the need for it, not saying it's a bad idea.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Dano on July 28, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
A fan would help if your going to use it to keep wood dry, just to cook a glue up you wouldn't need it.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: Bjorn on July 28, 2009, 01:10:00 PM
Aeronut-your box looks great, what dimentions did you make? What a good idea to skip the plywood.
Title: Re: Hot Box insulation
Post by: bigcountry on July 28, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dano:
A fan would help if your going to use it to keep wood dry, just to cook a glue up you wouldn't need it.
I want the fan for boo and hickory drying