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Title: Heat Question
Post by: tim roberts on February 27, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
What kind of heat is needed out of a heat gun for bending limbs?  I looked at one today that had a 300-500 degree range, is this enough or does it need to throw more heat?
Thanks,
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: ranger 3 on February 27, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
I have a 1000 and it is barely enough.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: John Scifres on February 27, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
You are going to need more than that.  Mine is a $30 Milwaukee heat gun that has lasted me 10 years so far.  It's high temp is 1000.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: tim roberts on February 27, 2009, 10:58:00 PM
At that high of tempurature, how does one keep from scorching or burning the stave?  Does the stave get that hot?
Thanks again,
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Pat B on February 27, 2009, 11:38:00 PM
My heat gun is an old B&D I bought for $5 at a garage sale years ago. It is rated at 1200watts and has a 2 position switch. I use it on #2(high) mostly.
   When I am bending wood with heat I use oil on the area to be bent, straightened or recurved. When the wood is too hot to touch usually it will bend, osage especially. By using oil the wood doesn't scorch. Keep the heat gun moving too.
   When tempering belly wood I don't use oil but scorch the wood to a chocolate brown.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Roy Steele on February 28, 2009, 10:59:00 AM
I gave my heat gun away.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: tim roberts on February 28, 2009, 10:22:00 PM
Can you please explain "tempering belly wood", how and why?
Thanks again,
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
Tempering a bows belly is done to increase the compression strength, mostly with whitewoods but it also works on osage, locust and other heartwood bows. Marc St Louis popularized it's use and wrote a chapter in TBBIV and an article is a past Primitive Archer magazine about heat treating (tempering) belly wood.
   The way I do it is put the bow in a form, belly up and begin to heat the wood at the fades. I use a heat gun for this. When the wood begins to scorch I slowly move out the limb a bit at a time until I get near the tips. I want the scorched wood to be chocolate brown.
   After scorching I leave the bow in the form for probably 4 or 5 days to rehydrate. If the R/H is low, you will want to wait longer. The tempering makes the wood very dry and brittle and if you stress it too soon, it will blow!
   I have removed slight set and increased weight 5# to 6# with tempering. You want to temper only dry wood or you can cause checking.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: PEL on March 01, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
Heat treating a belly - that would be after tillering? Thanks
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Pat B on March 01, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Generally but not necessarily after tillering.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Walt Francis on March 01, 2009, 12:39:00 PM
Tim, don't bother dinking around with tempering the belly of your bow until you get a few bows under your belt.  Also, the humidity where you live, like where I live, may not allow the wood to rehydrate enough to prevent blowing up.  Unlike those in the mid west and east, our problem with bow wood is to little wood moisture not too much.

Quit worrying about making the perfect bow your first attempt and start making some shavings.  Next time you post, I want to see some pictures of the stave (in a reduced state) you are working on.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: Pat B on March 01, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
Excellent advise, Walt. I live in the South East US and "TOO DRY" is rarely a consideration. In your neck of the woods hickory is superior to most other bow woods because of the dryness and 6% hickory will stand it's ground with any other bow wood.
Title: Re: Heat Question
Post by: tim roberts on March 02, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
Ok Walt, should have my work bench done, or to a point I can start using it by next Monday, with that said, I will have some pictures to post next week.
Thanks for all your help guys!!!  :D