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Title: My first Osage try
Post by: ranger 3 on January 12, 2009, 07:58:00 PM

This is my first try at this, what ya think? Don't worry about hurting my feeling I can take it. It braced at about 6" drawn to 50@26
  (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm216/ranger500us/IMG_0781.jpg)
  (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm216/ranger500us/IMG_0783.jpg)

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Diamondback59 on January 12, 2009, 08:04:00 PM

looks pretty good  left fade looks a lil  heavey and limb needs to bend a bit more looks diffrent from other side  might just be the pic  if it shoots good enjoy it and make another haha brock

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: No-sage on January 12, 2009, 08:24:00 PM

Both limbs need to get bending closer to the handle.

You're going to have a heck of a time working out the hinges in the center of each limb.

Left limb is worse off then the right, but both need work.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: No-sage on January 12, 2009, 08:28:00 PM

If you have a longbow in the house, hook it on that tree and get a look at it drawn.  Even trace out the limbs at full draw.  


This will give you a view of the proper bend, and will point you in the right direction.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Pat B on January 12, 2009, 11:25:00 PM

Both limbs need to bend closer to the handle. You can see how far out past the fades it is bending. The limbs should beginning to bend where the handle "fades" into the limb.     Pat

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: ranger 3 on January 13, 2009, 08:26:00 AM

Thanks for all the responses, now I have another problem. I got a small crack on the back of the bottom limb, can I put raw hide on it or try for another ring?

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: John Scifres on January 13, 2009, 08:49:00 AM

Howard,

It is very helpful to watch how other bows bend to get an eye for what good tiller looks like.  Here is one hint, don't look at the tiller in your avatar  :)

The Trad Bowyer's Bible Volume 1 has a great chapter on tillering.  Also get Dean Torges' book "Hunting the Osage Bow".  Here is a Tillering 101 site I did a while back:    Tillering 101 (http://residents.bowhunting.net/sticknstring/tiller101.html)  

Here is my personal best tillering job.

  (http://residents.bowhunting.net/sticknstring/dansbbo13.JPG)

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: ranger 3 on January 13, 2009, 09:01:00 AM

Thanks John that looks great, I will follow tillering 101 on my next bow when I find another stave.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Pat B on January 13, 2009, 09:09:00 AM

Does the crack run with the grain or across it?  If with it, you may be able to just fill with super glue and continue on.    Pat

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: ranger 3 on January 13, 2009, 09:22:00 AM

Pat here is a pics.
 (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm216/ranger500us/IMG_0784.jpg)

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Pat B on January 13, 2009, 10:10:00 AM

Looks like you left some of the early ring on the back. This is a good idea while you are shaping the bow to protect the back but it should be remover before stressing the bow. This probably appeared where the limb is bending the most.
  You may be able to scrape the early wood off and eliminate most of the crack. I would them get super glue down into the crack, let it cute and add a wrap over that area.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Ostrorogi on January 13, 2009, 02:16:00 PM

First you need to look in wich side tree is growing, and then cut it in same direction... you splited vanes... or made them thiner in that area. That resulted as a crack.
+ You have really ruff surface... gaps, small cracks wich you can see...
here
  (http://www.shrani.si/f/Y/i/1H3GpUZ8/img0784f.jpg)

And take a look in area where your main crack is ... its polished.  :D

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: ChristopherO on January 13, 2009, 02:34:00 PM

Did you chase a ring on the back before working the belly?  The picture shows a pretty rough back, that is why I ask.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: ranger 3 on January 13, 2009, 03:37:00 PM

Yes I did but they were very close to close for my first bow. I worked on that area and it broke Oh well got to start over. Thanks for every ones help. I'll be back soon.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Ostrorogi on January 13, 2009, 03:42:00 PM

You dont need to throw it away mate, at least you can try to fix it somehow.
Sharpen that side to perfect flat surface, and glue bamboo on it. That would fix most errors. One piece will hold otherone and oposite.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: shamus on January 14, 2009, 01:27:00 PM

Yeah, the wood near the handle is way too stiff.
Don’t worry, though. It’s a common error.

Look at John's pic: that's *it*.

sorry it broke on you.

not sure if it'll help, but here are my thoughts on chasing rings:  http://analogperiphery.blogspot.com/2008/05/chasing-growth-rings.html

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Steve Kendrot on January 14, 2009, 07:43:00 PM

The tillering gizmo or walky talky is a huge tillering aid in revealing hinges and stiff spots before they become show stoppers.

 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000075

If you aren't using one yet, make one before you tiller your next bow. Have fun!

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Leo L. on January 14, 2009, 10:26:00 PM

If you didn't say so, I never would have known that was a first attempt.

Title: Re: My first Osage try
Post by: Roy Steele on January 29, 2009, 10:38:00 PM

For your first bow not that bad at least your not feeding the stove.But there are a few things you need to do.I see some flat spots on each limb.Watch it don't hidge at these spots.
  Both limbs need to ben down into the handle more.As for the cracks and since it's your first bow. Backing is the only way to go.After you back it,
this will take care of the cracks and you can retiller to take care of the flat spots.