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Title: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: joe vt on February 05, 2008, 11:45:00 AM
I am seriously considering ordering a new longbow.

The two bows I am interested in are the Thunderstick MOAB and the Tolelke Whip.  Unfortunately I have not shot either of these longbows......

I would love to hear your opinions on these two sticks. Pictures would also be appreciated.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: indianalongbowshooter on February 05, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Ive never shot a MOAB but have shot a Whip alot, the Whip is a great bow, fast,quiet and easy to hit with, Mr. Toelke is also a very nice guy have exchange e-mails with him a few times. Agood friend has had one of his recurves,a Whip and his classic Dstyle longbow and they all shot great. Hes getting a 52 in. 1 pc. recurve from him now cant wait to try it also.From what Ive heard about MOABs you cant go wrong with them either.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: xia_emperor on February 05, 2008, 11:53:00 AM
you need to go out and shoot them both. you already know this.  :)  but I have shoot the MOAD it was nice, but I still think My SS shoots better.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: RRock on February 05, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
I've owned and shoot both. Still have the Whip. I believe Tolke has a try before you buy program, might want to take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: vermonster13 on February 05, 2008, 12:31:00 PM
Very different grips Joe. Try them if you can.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: RamiusEng on February 05, 2008, 12:31:00 PM
I own a Toelke R/D WHip.  I am very happy with it.  I have never shot the MOAB so I can't comment on it.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: bigislandmark on February 05, 2008, 12:58:00 PM
Howzit Joe,

I can only add my two cents for Dan Toelke as I have no experience with the MOAB---only that I have read that it is an excellent bow.

Dan will send you a demo bow to try. If you like, you can buy. If not, send it  back to him. I took him up on his offer --- read Dan Toelke (da real deal) further down if you haven't already. Now my friend Richard haa a new Whip and I'll have to wait for mine.

Give Dan a call, I'm glad I did and will call him again in the near future.

I'll echo above posts by saying that if possible, try shooting both of them. For me the grip of the Whip fit my hand perfectly----great design.

Aloha,

      Mark
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: joe vt on February 05, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
The grip can be a issue. The MOAB looks like the typical locator grip on a longbow. I know I would want a Whip without the thumb rest.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: JC on February 05, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by joe vt:
The MOAB looks like the typical locator grip on a longbow.
Nope, not in my opinion. I've shot all of Terry's MOAB's and think they are an exceptional 1pc longbow. I really like the grip...hard to describe but a cross between a longbow and recurve grip with the thumb inset into the grip, not really a thumb rest per se.

I've only shot one whip and thought it an excellent bow also. In comparison of the two, I liked the MOAB's grip a bit better, found them too close to call in speed/quiet/handshock etc, and found the MOAB a bit higher on the eye candy scale.

I agree, shoot both if you can, but I know you already know that.   ;)
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: joe vt on February 05, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
I am trying to think if I like eye candy bows.... LOL
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: CHAD on February 05, 2008, 05:40:00 PM
Joe, I have a 60"53#@28 T/D whip that i have had for three weeks now.It is a very nice bow with a classic D-shape when strung,good speed and very very quite.I had a MOAB that i sold that i wish i had back. I would say the Moab was faster then the Whip but not by alot.The grips are very different the Whip with a locator and thumb rest(very nice)and the MOAB has a deeper locator that really locks your hand in like a Shrew.If you want Joe i am going on vacation in two week i could send the whip to you so you could give it a try.Chad
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: bayoulongbowman on February 05, 2008, 05:51:00 PM
Wow , sir you have picked 2 that are in my top 10 of longbows , shorter than most standard longbows . its a toss up! really ...good luck Mark#78
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: Biathlonman on February 05, 2008, 07:38:00 PM
I don't know anything about the Moab, but the Whip is the real deal, I have one that I won't be parting with and you can't find someone nicer to work with then Dan...
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: Terry Green on February 05, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
Don't know anything about a 'whip'...but I do know you'd be hard pressed to find a better hybrid longbow than the 60" MOAB.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on February 05, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JC:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by joe vt:
The MOAB looks like the typical locator grip on a longbow.
Nope, not in my opinion. I've shot all of Terry's MOAB's and think they are an exceptional 1pc longbow. I really like the grip...hard to describe but a cross between a longbow and recurve grip with the thumb inset into the grip, not really a thumb rest per se.
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I agree. The MOAB grip is extremely comfortable and stable.

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The tiger maple veneers look nice too.

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Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: xia_emperor on February 06, 2008, 12:04:00 AM
great Pics!!
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: jressler on February 06, 2008, 06:16:00 AM
Joe,
Can't comment on the MOAB, but I have a WHIP which is hands-down the finest bow I have ever shot/owned. Additionally, the WHIP is truly a work of art -- beautiful to look at. As was mentioned in some of the other posts, Dan Toelke is a real gentleman and ethical businessman -- you'll enjoy doing business with him. Talk to him about a trial program.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: 4Blade on February 06, 2008, 07:15:00 AM
Can speak for the MOAB only.  It is smooth, quiet, quick and attractive.  At 28" mine shot 2fps slower than my Morrison Shawnee (at the same weight).  Jim is a stand up fellow, and his bow designs are top notch.  I just bought my 5th bow from him, a 56" MAG that I am currently putting through the paces.  Good Luck.  Picking a new longbow is such a fine conundrum!
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: joe vt on February 06, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
Well I called Jim and he is sending me a 60" 49# @28" MOAB cocobolo dymondwood; amberboo limbs.

I guess I'll find out how they shoot early next week.
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: vermonster13 on February 06, 2008, 01:40:00 PM
Hey Joe that may be a good time to come down and visit.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: mooseman76 on February 06, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
joe, while your at it you may want to contact Dan as well.  I'm pretty sure he'd send you a bow to try as well.  It'd be sweet to shoot em side by side.  BTW, I love my Whips and MOAB is high up on my list...Mike
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: 2ndxarnd on February 06, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
Wow, what a choice. I currently own one MOAB and deciding on the details of a second. 60" 29 inch draw is smooth , quiet, and quick. The makes for a very enjoyable shoot. Good luck, you can't go wrong if you decide to go with Jim and the MOAB. RP
Title: Re: Which Longbow....MOAB or Whip ????
Post by: Terry Green on February 06, 2008, 08:05:00 PM
4Blade...exactly, my MOABS are as fast as some recurves, yet smooth on the draw, dead in the hand, and quiet.