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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: edy5dms on September 17, 2008, 12:53:00 PM
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Does anyone have a link where I can down load the "SuperTiller" software or can anyone please mail me the software at [email protected] (hope it’s not too big to mail)
Also what are ur experiences with the software? How hard is it to use?
Does nay one also have any instruction on how to use it.
Thank you in advance for ur help.
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www.flightarchery.com (http://www.flightarchery.com) is what your looking for
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The link does'nt seem to work right. It runs on my MS Excel. Ill try and get some help and see if I can e-mail it to ya.
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Sent it to ya.
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if you guys want I have a copy of the latest release of Supertiller v6r6 I will gladly share around in exchange for a bit of help lerning to use it, the sight I got it off of is completely in spanish but the sheet is english
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I'll take a copy. Thanks.
pm sent
Todd
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Thanks TNsticken, il have a look on my e-mail.
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Originally posted by Dave521:
if you guys want I have a copy of the latest release of Supertiller v6r6 I will gladly share around in exchange for a bit of help lerning to use it, the sight I got it off of is completely in spanish but the sheet is english
Please pass on a copy for me, I'm also learning about it. so I will send you the info one's I work it out. I also received some info and a PDF on how to use it (kind of). So send me your mail il send it to you. Also any one else intrested I'l mail you. Please state your email.
thanks
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Originally posted by TNstickn:
Sent it to ya.
Did not receive the mail from you. Please resend it. Thanks
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OK- how does "software" aid in tillering, if that is what it does, please? Or is it to aid in designing?
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It's a design aid. I would love to get a copy as well!
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Thanks, AP - design is above and beyond my level, I'm thinking - LOL. Sounds like it'd be a good thing for anyone headed that way though.
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Supertiller is a fun excel spreadsheet to work with. Takes some time to get an idea on how to use it but is worth it in my opinion. Here are some pictures of the predicted outcome with supertiller and a picture of the limb built with the dimensions entered in supertiller. Also a picture of the tiller of this bow once the width taper was finished. This was one of the laminated all wood bows I built for my grandson. supertiller was built for all wood bows but the designs will work for glass laminated bows.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o241/galnmax/bow%20info/kidsbowprofile2.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o241/galnmax/bow%20info/kidsbowprofile.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o241/galnmax/bow%20info/tiller2.jpg)
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i'll take a copy, thanks, Dan.
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I am working on getting it posted to my web hosting sight so you guys can download it direct, just take me a littile bit to get the thing reset
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Here are a few things that I've worked out with ST.
I can answer a few question you have.
1. To start you can click on the prestress button which starts at 0 which should be the BACK of the bow not the belly.
2. You can modify the result with Design Operations but I prefer to hand enter numbers in the Modified profile to shape the limb the way I want. To me it is simpler. Though the "Offset X & Y" is handy to move the limb up for a 3-piece bow.
3. You can rotate the limb using the rotate function (be sure you have the start at 0 and the end at the last number of sections your using) to try different limb pad angles.
4. Then you set your draw length to what you want and the brace height plus 1.75" because it's measuring from the back of the bow.
This should get you started. What really helped me was to take a bow I owned and copied it on a grid and got the measurements from it. Then I hand entered those in the Modified Profile and experimented with that.
5. The poundage that comes out on the Report page is only 1/2 the actual weight. It doesn't say that anywhere in the manual but I was told by Alan that is the weight that show.
6. Say your weight that comes up in the report is too heavy you can decrease the thickness proportionately using lets say .9 in the Design Operations and clicking on the thickness choice which will reduce the thickness 10%
Clear as mud right? :knothead: Play with it and watch the outcomes. :D
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By the way you will need excel 2002 or newer to use any of the versions of supertiller above 60. Dave521 would you mind putting the older version on the site your setting up so those who don't have the newer versions of excel can work with ST. If so shoot me an e-mail and I'll get you a copy if you don't have it.
Thanks
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Benbow, that's a beautiful full draw profile!
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I would have no problem putting up the older version, I just need to get ahold of it. if someone would send it to me I would be glad to put it up, I am going to start building the page tonight, but can still set up for downloads
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the SuperTiller V6R6 is up and as soon as I can get ahold of the older version I will post it, this is just a temporary look for the sight.
http://Blackdragonarchery.synthasite.com
just click the link on the page should download for you
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What is needed to open the program? It is a .tar document? What is that?
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Dave send me an e-mail or your address and I'll get the older version to you.
Leo you can download a program to extract it from the tar file HERE (http://www.extractnow.com/)
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Worked great. Thanks a lot. Just need that version of Excel now...
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Leo and all,
If you don't have Excel or a current version, you can use the software with Open Office. It is an open source collection (free) of software that does all that MS Office does plus a few other things (will convert .doc to .pdf as an example).
http://www.openoffice.org/
I have used Open Office for about two years now. I downloaded Super Tiller from the link above and it opened right up in Open Office.
I would like to get the instructions or help file for Super Tiller from someone. Thanks,
Ray
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Ray I hate to tell you but supertiller will NOT work with openoffice. :( You can open it but the version of basic that supertiller is written in is different than openoffice uses so the macros that run it do not work. :banghead: Supposedly it is possible to rewrite the macros in openoffice basic and it will work but I'm not sharp enough to do it. Also if someone had the developer version of excel it is possible to covert supertiller to an exe program file. Anyone have that?
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Thanks, B.B. I launched the program and played with the sheets but did not make any charts or graphs. I did enter some values but didn't go beyond that.
Thank you for clearing that up. O.O. is still a nice office suite and it's free. I will have to look into the macro issue if I get some time this Winter.
Ray
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Ray I agree with you on OO being a nice office suite. I use it on all but one of my computers. Just can't justify the cash required for ms office.
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Sorry guys been outa town.
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I have to thank BenBow for pointing out that I should post the files in zip format the new file as well as the older file are now up and ready for download in a zip file format that windows can extract with ease. Sorry about that, been busy doing webdesign and spaced it off. thanks again Ben
Dave
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Too cool Dave. Updated me instantly!!!Thanks a million. Greg