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Title: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: kennym on September 06, 2008, 10:24:00 PM
When I start stocking glass/glue,

1. Would you rather buy with scrim or without?

2. Do you buy more clear or black?

3. What is your most used thickness?

4. Does anybody use anything besides Smoothon?

Thats nuff questions for this round, thanks in advance!    :wavey:
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: TNstickn on September 07, 2008, 12:00:00 AM
When I started building bows (Been right at 4 years)binghams said they would soon not offer the w/ scrim option so I just started without and stuck that way. Is one any better than the other?

Clear only
.050
Smooth on
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Glenn Newell on September 07, 2008, 05:16:00 AM
Kenny I changed from smoothon to Techni-Glue years ago and I never regretted it, it's water wash up as well. I would never use smooth-on again...Glenn...
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Canadabowyer on September 07, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Kenny, 1.with scrim 2.clear and a few brown 3. .040 4. smooth-on.  Bob
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Apex Predator on September 08, 2008, 06:38:00 AM
Kenny, I have been buying my glass from Three Rivers and have been very happy with it, but don't know if it has scrim or not.  I am using .050, but plan to start shifting towards .040.  Smooth-on rocks!
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Bowana on September 08, 2008, 08:30:00 AM
1. without scrim
2. clear
3. .050
4. smooth-on

Jeff
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: kennym on September 09, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
Thanks guys,any more bowyers out there?  ?
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Justin Falon on September 09, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
Kenny,

I use some smooth on but would like to explore other options.  I use both clear and black glass and mostly .050 and .055.

justin
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: longbawl on September 10, 2008, 05:35:00 AM
clear .040 with out scrim
smooth-on
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Peckerwood on September 10, 2008, 09:24:00 PM
Kenny ,
 I use mostly clear and some black .040 and .050. I use  with and without scrim depending on the bow and smooth no glue .

  It will be great to have another glass supplier.
  Are you going to be selling any phenolic ?

Bill
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: kennym on September 10, 2008, 09:34:00 PM
Bill,
Hadn't thought that far yet,but yes ,most likely.
 May have to build on to my shop,getting ready to pour concrete in the back30x40 now!!LOL
 Thanks guys,more opinions please.....
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Jerry Gille on September 11, 2008, 11:15:00 AM
Without scrim, clear, black and brown, .40 and .50, and smooth on.
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: deathwish on September 12, 2008, 11:09:00 PM
I use .040 glass, smooth on epoxy, and with and without scrim depending on purchase at the time. You can get away with more if the scrim is used but on the thinner glass you will sometimes run into bad spots. Glass color is mostly clear with some black or brown
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: steadman on September 13, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
I use .040 and .050 clear and smooth on and wiht or w/o scrim depending on project
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: NightHawk on September 13, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
I use west system epoxy w-a-y better than smooth-on
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: 7eyes on October 06, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
I'm trying West Systems epoxy as well. Goes off in 50 degree weather with no oven. Cleans up with vinegar.
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Apex Predator on October 06, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
Somebody please tell me what scrim is!
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: BMN on October 06, 2008, 10:29:00 AM
This came from the Bingham's site: A continuous unidirectional "E" fiberglass laminate combined with a 50/50 woven fiberglass inlay (scrim) that has high strength and stiffness along the longitudinal (0) axis and provides cross strength (90 degrees to the longitudinal axis).
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: hera on October 06, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
1. without scrim
2. clear
3. 0.060  0.050  0.450
4.  Epoxy
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: kennym on October 14, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
Hey Marty, heres the scrim page  ULS Glass

 http://www.gordoncomposites.com/product-gc70uls.htm
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: Apex Predator on October 15, 2008, 09:42:00 AM
That's some purty fancy stuff!  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: BenBow on October 21, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
Kenny how about S glass which is MUCH stiffer than UL. It's somewhere between UL and carbon. Might be hard to get though.
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: kennym on October 21, 2008, 06:53:00 PM
Some other folks asked me about S glass,what do you think of it?
Title: Re: Bowyers, need input on glass/glue......?
Post by: BenBow on October 22, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
Kenny bufflobillpatrick used to post a lot and had great things to say about it. It's much stiffer than E glass but not as touchy as carbon. The only problem I've heard of was the difficulty in obtaining it. I think it could only be ordered from Gordon glass and they had a minimum order that was pretty high. So I don't know if that's changed though.