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Title: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 04, 2008, 07:20:00 PM: My next bow is a BBI (Bamboo Backed Ipe), which I have been wanting to do since I first started reading about them, and hearing of Rich Saffold's work with them, in CA. It is, of course, a wood lam bow, and since I do not have the facilities, or forms and tools, to do a glue up (and mostly will want to work Osage stave bows after this one), I opted for a glue-up from Mr. Saffold of Richard's Bowyery. As I told Richard, in previous communications, I wanted this bow to start off having the best chance possible, of turning into as good a one, as I turn out to be capable of making it be, since it will probably be my only BBI. I want to say that I am very impressed with the Glue-up he made for me, and his fast service. It is a 68" longbow, 66 3/4" ntn, with darker pieces of Ipe (e-pea) for the riser and tip overlays. The Bamboo backing is a beautiful piece of Black Bamboo (a unique species of bamboo of no two pieces exactly alike, and already camoed patterns - (like my Camo Dog - LOL)

This bow may take awhile for me to do (even if it is almost already a bow ;) ) what with finishing up my Holmegarard, Deer season starting in a week here, Hurricane Hannah (perhaps only Tropical storm Hannah) bearing down on us in NC, family matters, etc. but I still intend to keep you posted, as in the past, if you are interested.

Here are some pics of the glue up. All I have done to it so far (other than to admire it's shape etc.) is shape the tips and overlays and file the string nocks. I did this today, so that I will be able to get a long string on it as soon as it is readied for that step.

Side view:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI001.jpg)

Belly (Ipe):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI002.jpg)

Back (Black Bamboo) It's a little darker and more speckled than it appears in this pic. I will try to get a more accurate image later:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI003.jpg)

And a look at the two tips with string grooves:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI004.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI005.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: chrisg on September 05, 2008, 09:12:00 AM: Also my next project I will be watching you closely, I will have to do my own glue up and cut out the Ipe from decking. I really enjoyed your wrestle with the Hickory Holmie, it came out well. You are a good teacher! Thanks for sharing.
chrisg
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 05, 2008, 09:27:00 AM: Bless your heart, chrisg - I did a lot of it in the Marine Corps, and always enjoyed it (after I got past the "stomache butterflys" lol). Good luck on your glue-up. I believe a lot of Rich's Ipe comes from decking also. I know he "speaks" often about a lumber place out there that has excellant choices, which he is thankful for. He also mentions how there are a lot of exotic trees used for landscaping in the past there also - but permission to harvest is not always forthcoming - LOL
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 05, 2008, 05:02:00 PM: now thats a nice looking bow uncle bernie! :clapper:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Dano on September 05, 2008, 05:09:00 PM: Rich makes a pretty mean BBI, she oughta be a screamer Bernie.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Pat B on September 05, 2008, 05:34:00 PM: Bernie, You will love this combo. Boo/ipe makes a great bow and I'm sure you will follow suit. Pat
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 05, 2008, 05:44:00 PM: Thank you friends Jeff, Dano, and Pat. Encouragement like your's always helps me a great deal.

Yep, i'm taking it slow and easy (I usually do - LOL) but particularly slow with this one because of the dust - to see how I react to it. I do have a dust mask (with refills) but only used it for a little while. I clean up (shavings and sawdust) often anyway. I've been washing my hands and arms after each short session and cleaning my nose - not moving much wood yet. Just working corners off in preparation, and testing my tolerance. So far - no problems but anything I don't need is extra itching and burning on top of the tick and redbug season starting (with Deer Season) next Saturday - LOL
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Tom Anderson on September 05, 2008, 07:23:00 PM: Well thank goodness, Bernie - looks like that one may actually be long enough for me to do a full draw on. :D

I'll be watchin'.

BTW, does Rich Saffold have a web page?
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 05, 2008, 07:37:00 PM: Huh-uh, think again, Floppy Long-armed Guy! Still only 25" draw allowed (maybe 26") :D Glad to see your interested enough to look though :) . He does, it's Richard's Bowyery.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 12, 2008, 07:27:00 PM: As promised earlier, here is a picture that I hope shows the color and unique "pattern" of the Black Bamboo that is the backing on my BBI:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI007.jpg)

I've been scraping and sanding on the BBI in fits and spurts, as I have had time. I also took a good half or 3/4" off the darker piece of the riser - not really shaping it too much, yet, but just sizing it for more comfort in depth. The bow is responding well to floor tillering, and I now have it on the long string on the tree, and pretty close to ready for the short string. So far, it is continuing to look real even in the curvature of the limbs. I'll have pics of that next week but in the meantime here is it's latest profile (while resting on the keel of my canoe, which is hanging on the outside carport wall - LOL). Just seemed like a good place to get decent light for the "color" shot shown above:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI006.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 12, 2008, 11:01:00 PM: oh thats looking purty uncle bernie :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 17, 2008, 07:13:00 PM: After some scraping, sanding, and handle reducing I got the BBI glueup bending at floor tiller, enough to be ready for a string, and to get it on my tillering tree. I'm using a little longer string than I have on previous ones due to the nice reflex in the glue-up. It would take a short string now but it would put the string right up along side of the handle. (That handle is also still a little larger/deeper than it will be, just to give me a good base to rest in my cradle.)

On the tree:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI008.jpg)

When I exercised and then pulled the bow (down to about the 12 inch line), it appeasred to me the right (persumably lower) limb was not bending as much as the left (top) limb, along most of it's inner length:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI009.jpg)

With that info in mind, I took the bow back inside and did some judicious scraping on the right limb, then back to the tree and exercise. After that, another pull to 12" shows the limbs are bending much more alike now. Now to try to keep them going that way - LOL, as I continue to get it bending more - after at least a night of rest for her (and me):

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI010.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Pat B on September 17, 2008, 11:03:00 PM: Bernie, Watch that left limb right off the fade. could develop a hinge if you are not careful.
She's coming along nicely. Pat
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 18, 2008, 06:51:00 AM: I see where you are talking about, Pat (now) I'll look at that closer on the tree today - guess I was so busy working/watching the right one I didn't see that. There are two places on that limb that almost look like the Ipe possibly could have been butt-spliced (not sure they aren't just "things" in the wood), and as I recall that is close to one of them but maybe not (nope, doesn't appear to be at that spot, in just looking at the wood - I'll see when I get it on the tree). Definitely bears watching in any case, thanks.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 18, 2008, 03:52:00 PM: looking good so far uncle. hey and you said not to leave you behind in building bows!!! i think its the other way round. after saying that i have enough white ash to make 3 bows will be starting them soon. :biglaugh: keep it comming uncle b
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 19, 2008, 12:13:00 PM: LOL - getting stocked up, ain'tcha, bro? What did you do, raid a grove at the local non-native botanical park?
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 19, 2008, 05:50:00 PM: A little more progress made today and The limbs appear very close to even to me, now. Using the shorter long string (length of bow).

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI011.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 21, 2008, 07:02:00 AM: Now for a little work to get more curve in the mid-limb (and tip) areas - hopefully getting the weight more into my range at the same time - LOL.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 21, 2008, 02:41:00 PM: way to go uncle!!!!! hey ya right i am stocking up as the way money is aroundhere at the moment what cost me $40 for a 8ft borad will be going up in price!!! thieving bastards. thats what happens when ya live down at the bottom of the world. :biglaugh: I've got to move to the usa
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 22, 2008, 07:23:00 AM: I couldn't argue with that, Jeff. Though my Father-In-Law loved NZ when he was stationed there.

Got the outter limbs curving a little more now - still strong. Think I will shave the edges a little today and see where I stand then. New pic soon - if all goes well.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 22, 2008, 05:15:00 PM: cool uncle bernie cant wait to see it.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 22, 2008, 07:23:00 PM: Here 'tis:

Some judicious scraping and sanding on the edges and belly of the mid-limbs and tips today brought the limbs into what looks like a pretty nice curve to me. The bow is still pretty strong though, and I haven't been able to get a regular string on it just yet. I'll probably let it rest over night now, and see how it acts in the AM. (I'm getting anxious for the regular string and some short-draw shooting of it - LOL)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI12.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 22, 2008, 07:34:00 PM: wow!!! that is one nice bow uncle bernie you are doing a fine job. as for me iam stock piling wood. :clapper:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Dano on September 22, 2008, 08:02:00 PM: Lookin good at this stage ol' brother.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: chrisg on September 23, 2008, 01:32:00 AM: Hi Bernie, not been 'attending class' lately! But I got a note.. You have got a nice bend there and so easily it seems. The trick is to go slow and check often I think. I have been wrestling a self bow out of a mulberry tree using rasp, spokeshave and plenty of effort! NO pics though. Nearly up to long string.
We do have some very good timber merchants here and like everywhere transportation costs are pushing prices up fast, so stockpile if you can!Landscaping trees are a source too, our local trees have good potential, especially for handles and tips. The good ones for limbs don't grow near me, all down the eastern Cape. I also taught skills, (not military!) it's fun.
chrisg
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 23, 2008, 07:22:00 AM: Thanks for the look-sees and comments guys. Good luck with the Mulberry bow.

I've been looking at the pic again this AM and I think I can still see a little curve being asked for in the top limb, at mid limb - but we'll see. Gonna take some more off the edges (both limbs, mid point out to tip) to try to cut down her weight a little bit, so I can get the "real" string on her. Also plan to start shaping the ends of the handle a little, if I get a chance today.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 26, 2008, 08:15:00 AM: Well, things were going really great with this bow. Except as previously stated it just seemed to hate to give up much of any of it's weight for my scraping and sanding efforts. Since I tend to work slow and methodical, that didn't bother me too much. I just kept nibbling away at it in passes of ten, down to five, "paths" across the width of the belly (each limb), and only 3 "swipes" on the edges when decreasing there. I was fat, sassy, and happy as a lark, even though it only seemed to be giving up a pound or so at each trip to the tillering tree - and I was wanting to get it into a regular string - but couldn't seem to quite get there.

All of the sudden, day before yesterday, the reticent little rascal made up her mind and gave it all away - like a school girl that decided she'd held out too long - and I almost missed it. Well it got pretty intimidating there for awhile when one limb went straight and the other still held a great curve, and the regular string became an easy fit. I was scurring around in terror like a young tom cat that finally got what he thought he had wanted, and then didn't know what the heck to do about it.

Happily, it all turned out OK whith slow patient caresses and careful administerings, except it did come in a little lighter than I was shooting for (36# @ 25", instead of 40#). It behaves real well, and seems to be taking it's shape pretty good now that I am able to shoot it (a lot). Never did get to do any half-draw shooting (other than a couple tenative try-outs), she pretty much went right to full draw. She was hot to trot, once she made up her mind. I can live with her weight (with the zip and impact she shows), for now -and, if I decide later I want a little more, I can always cut the nocks off, redo them, and be just about right - probably (I think). I am in the process of finishing the bow now. It burnished up real nice (with a glass whale nicknack, and a screwdriver shaft, that I use), after fine sanding, and I think she's gonna be as pretty as all of those California Girls, IMO :archer:

Final pics in a few days, after some coats, or so, of Tru-oil. BTW, her name is "Cowgirl".
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 26, 2008, 06:23:00 PM: well uncle bernie i am glad it did not drop to much poundage for ya. but looking at the pics so far it is going to be a sweet shooter. :notworthy: :clapper: :clapper:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 28, 2008, 06:42:00 AM: Putting the finishing touchs on now and, with any luck, should have compleation pics early this week.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 29, 2008, 12:32:00 PM: Here are the stats, in one place, and the compleation pics :

Her name is "Cowgirl" and she is a Black Bamboo backed Ipe (BBI) with darker colored Ipe for tip overlays and riser. 67" ntn 36# @ 25", 6" handle, 1 1/2" Fades, 1" wide @ fades, 3/4" wide @ mid-limbs, 3/8" wide at tips. She wears a shaved Sealskin arrow pass and a stacked leather arrow rest, with black leather handle wrap. Right now she is behaving quite well at only 4" brace height but, as soon as I run more arrows with her (and her B50 string), I will increase that to around 5-5 1/2", most likely, as that is my norm with most wood bows, if they like it.

One side @ rest:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI013.jpg)

Other side @ rest:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI014.jpg)

One side @ Brace:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI015.jpg)

Other side @ Brace:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI016.jpg)

Handle:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI017.jpg)

Belly @ brace:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI018.jpg)

Couple of Close-ups of the rest area from Belly side:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI019.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI020.jpg)

(continued)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 29, 2008, 12:35:00 PM: Close-up of Tip:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI021.jpg)

Close-up of rest (Stacked and glued leather), and shaved Sealskin arrow pass:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI022.jpg)

Oh, I will post a Full Draw later today, as soon as possible. Today my wife is prepping (for a Colonoscopy tomorrow) and anyone who knows about that (as I too well do) will understand why I have to wait untill she feels free to get far enough away from the "terlet" to take the pics for me - :D
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Linc on September 29, 2008, 01:08:00 PM: Lookin good Bernie. :thumbsup: Looks like it will be a sweet shooter.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 29, 2008, 01:15:00 PM: It really is, Linc ol' buddy, and thank you.

Here are the FD pics. Rose missed the tip a little on the frontal shot but she did pretty good for her "weakened condition" - :D :

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI023.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI024.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Shaun on September 29, 2008, 04:07:00 PM: That frontal shot is SCARY!!! You got game face, if'n there had been an arrow on the string I would have ducked! Nice looking bow Bernie.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on September 29, 2008, 04:34:00 PM: real nice uncle bernie. just as well ya got a lot of bush there so aunty rose dont have to run so far. :p :D tell her i hope every thing goes ok.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 29, 2008, 06:27:00 PM: Thank you, Shaun and Jeff. Rose doesn't like it when I put an arrow on the string for frontal shots, Shaun - She also doesn't like bushes much, Jeff :D . It is just a precautionary check - no indications - but she is a cancer survivor so they want to cover all bases, and thanks for the good wishes, Jeff.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 29, 2008, 09:03:00 PM: I took the Brace height up to 5" on Cowgirl and took her out for a dark of the moon run just now. She likes it fine ( and so do I ;)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Doc Nock on September 30, 2008, 12:13:00 PM: Very cool, Mini-Grunt! You have really taken to this primitive stuff like a duck on a junebug!

Best wishes for the procedure for sweet Rose!
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on September 30, 2008, 01:04:00 PM: THE PROCEEDURE CAME OUT CLEAN - YES, I'M SHOUTING! Thanks, Doc.

Here is my "Cowgirl" at her new 5" Brace Height - and ready to ride - ;)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v689/ber643/0313/BBI025.jpg)
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Pluck Yew on September 30, 2008, 09:47:00 PM: Very nice Bernie.... :thumbsup:

Shawn...
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Dano on September 30, 2008, 10:24:00 PM: Not a bad lookin bow OL' Brother. I'm not crazy about the abrupt fades, and I would round out the handle a bit more, but that's just me. I know you ended up light, but the inner limbs are pretty stiff.
If I were you I'd raise the brace hieght till the fletching clears and then she how she shoots.

I hate to be such a critic, but that's how we learn, me thinks.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 01, 2008, 07:38:00 AM: I don't mind criticisim, my friend, and certainly not from the likes of you, with your skill. I do seem to wind up liking the low brace heights, 5 to 6 inches in wood bows (for me and most all of my bows), for some reason. I have thought that perhaps I should go back to 5" fletches (vice 5 1/2"), just so they would clear at my brace, though. I'm always open to reasonable suggestions though, and may try jacking it up a little more, just to see. Seems harder for me to string them though, especially the longer ones - I know, you are short too but you have arms - I just have sticks with hands on the end - :D

BUT then again perhaps it is just me that needs some major realignment, not the bows - :goldtooth:

The riser I conciously decided to leave longer and unshaped this time - just for contrast,and because it seemed to fit the long slim profile (to me)of the bow, also becuse it is only an inch wide, less in the palm side. Who knows though, at some later date I may decide to go to the more shaped handle that I mostly favor also. Shoots awfully good for me for now though.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Tom Anderson on October 01, 2008, 08:14:00 AM: Talk about doing good things with wood! That's nice, bud. Lemme shoot it! :D
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 01, 2008, 08:35:00 AM: Only if you promise to Half-Draw - and let me put a strap on your arm to make sure you can't go beyond that - LOL
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Dano on October 01, 2008, 12:49:00 PM: Like they used to say in the Navy "what ever floats your boat" Seriously, if you shoot it well, you did good. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 01, 2008, 04:11:00 PM: So far, so good, buddy. Had her out again yesterday before supper and shot ten from the ground, ten from the tower, and then ten from the ground again. Really felt good and shot nice. Slaps the dickens out of the targets too, especially for it's weight. Did miss one from the ground with a slap off the back, and one from the tower - just under the ribs (my old nemisis shot, rearing it's ugly head again - :rolleyes: ). I really am enjoying shooting this one, Dano - but then I am "really enjoying" shooting about four of them lately on a regular basis - My "It" Osage, your "Sneaky Snake" Osage, my "Hanna Holmi" Holmegaard, and this BBI. The rest of my bows are screaming at me, as you can well imagine, every time I go by them ;) .
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: LeeNY on October 01, 2008, 04:57:00 PM: Bernie,
Really nice bow, I see you passed Master Linc!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Dano on October 01, 2008, 06:36:00 PM: So many bows, so little time :rolleyes: :biglaugh:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 01, 2008, 07:36:00 PM: Ain't that the ever-lovin' truth, Dano! Took "It" out tonight for the same regimine (but without the 2 misses, which is good since she is the one I'm hunting with right now :archer: ).

I don't know about passing Linc, Lee, but I do know the ol' sweetheart said he is going to send me an Osage stave to play with, sometime this month - what a guy!
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 09, 2008, 07:18:00 AM: BTW - I was pleased to come in second with this BBI (out of 7 entrants) in Primitive Archers September Bow of The Month, Laminated Wood bow Class.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: Linc on October 09, 2008, 07:23:00 PM: Another big congrats Bernie. :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 09, 2008, 07:28:00 PM: Thanks, Linc, ol' buddy.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: JEFF B on October 11, 2008, 04:33:00 AM: oh way to go uncle bernie!!!! that looks so sweet.
Title: Re: My Next Bow - BBI (Completion Pics 09/29/08)
Post by: ber643 on October 11, 2008, 09:42:00 AM: Thank you, Jeff.